Can anyone provide any clues to the following family?? Joseph Robert GREEN, born 1840 in Washington Co., AL (according to death certificate) and died 1912 in Clarke County, MS. married Mary Ann GUY 1863 in Clark County, AL. Joseph Robert's death certificate indicates that his parents were Mark GREEN (POB unknown) and Elizabeth HOWELL (POB unknown). I have been unable to locate any Mark Green in Alabama or Mississippi, can anyone help??? Thanks! Karolyn Hathcock kyhath@aol.com

In a message dated 98-12-09 10:08:28 EST, wagii@hotmail.com writes: << I got started in this research using an old will from William Wood. He spoke of his son-n-law Thomas, who married his daughter Nancy, and their children. I, for over a year now, have been striving to find the name of Thomas' Father. I am sure it will turn up one day. Hi Bill, I to am also looking for the parents of Thomas Green that married Nancy Wood, and would appreciate a copy of the will of her father, William Wood. Do you have any info on Nancy's brother, also named William Wood that was named guardian of her children? I have some info that says that Nancy Wood was first married to William Foster prior to her marriage to Thomas Green. I have info stating that this Thomas Green was the son of Thomas "The Seagull" Green, but the dates to not seem to make this possible, plus his son Thomas married Elizabeth Marston. The description of Judge Nathan Green certainly indicates the family was related to the Seagull Green family, but I have not been able to find the connection. Thanks, Tom Green

In a message dated 98-12-09 00:13:41 EST, green123@airmail.net writes: << I've been told my Ann Green b/ 1670?, married to James Hereford ca 1695, d. > 1721 Fairfax Co, VA was a descendant of Thomas Seagull...can anyone verify > this??? Does anyone have his downline? (Her father was Thomas...no other info > known on him...) > > Thanks! > Cyndi in Baltimore >> Hi Cyndi, I do not show that Thomas "The Seagull" Green had a daughter named Ann, but since the name was so common, one of his daughters could have had Ann as a second name, however I do not show a James Hereford as a husband of any of the 4 daughters of Thomas "The Seagull" Green. I show the oldest daughter to have been Elizabeth Green born about 1667 who married John Crawley. Tom Green

Forrest, Thanks for your support. I steem from James F. Green's line. He was the brother of Nathan which made the trip over the mountain in 1813. As you can imagine my excitement to find such a prestigious ancestry. I got started in this research using an old will from William Wood. He spoke of his son-n-law Thomas, who married his daughter Nancy, and their children. I, for over a year now, have been striving to find the name of Thomas' Father. I am sure it will turn up one day. Bill >From green-l-request@rootsweb.com Tue Dec 8 18:20:48 1998 >Received: (from slist@localhost) > by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22336; > Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:07:48 -0800 (PST) >Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:07:48 -0800 (PST) >Message-ID: <366D6CD3.10ED@airmail.net> >Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 12:15:47 -0600 >From: Forrest Green <green123@airmail.net> >Reply-To: green123@airmail.net >Organization: Tree Brand Ranch >X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; U) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Old-To: Bill Green <wagii@hotmail.com> >Old-CC: Green-L@rootsweb.com >References: <19981208171720.3957.qmail@hotmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Subject: [GREEN-L] General Tom Green >Resent-Message-ID: <"kZzKoD.A.tcF.xrWb2"@bl-14.rootsweb.com> >To: GREEN-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-From: GREEN-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <GREEN-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/4664 >X-Loop: GREEN-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: GREEN-L-request@rootsweb.com > >Bill Green wrote: >> >> Hello everyone. >> >> I just received my copy of the book titled "General Tom Green 'A Fightin >> Texan' by Odie Faulk". How fascinating. One issue I hope someone here >> can help me with is where Tom was Born. I have been under the >> impression he was born in Amelia, Va. According to the book and his >> Head Stone, he was born July 8, 1814 in Buckingham County, Va. Odie >> said in a footnote on page 2 "General Green's Tombstone, Oakwood >> Cemetery, Austin. Other accounts list Green as having been born in >> Amelia or Mecklenburg County, Virginia, but his family should have known >> the exact spot of his birth with certanity." >> >> Can anyone add to this? >> >> Bill Green > >Bill, > I like you have been trying to collect info on the General and had >recently obtained a copy of "The Fighting Texan" while attending a >Confederate Symposium at the Confederate Research Center in Hillsboro, >TX. My prior recording showed him as being born in Amelia Co., VA. and >was hopeful that I could tie him into the "Seagull Greens" with their >simular birth places and migration patterns to Texas, but have not been >able to get past his father Judge Nathan in TN & grandfather Thomas in >VA. That is a noble family and one that it would be well if you could >tie into. > I was amazed, being a lover of history, that I didn't know more about >the General as he was an outstanding individual in early Texas history >being the battle of San Jacinto with Sam Houston and in the Legislature. > I'm posting this to Green-L with hopes others can add. Good luck to >you. F.G. > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Pathoscafe@aol.com wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've been told my Ann Green b/ 1670?, married to James Hereford ca 1695, d. > 1721 Fairfax Co, VA was a descendant of Thomas Seagull...can anyone verify > this??? Does anyone have his downline? (Her father was Thomas...no other info > known on him...) > > Thanks! > Cyndi in Baltimore Cyndi, The only Ann that I have I don't believe will connect, although she is a descendant of Thomas "Seagull". She is the daughter of Filmer & Mary Walker, he being a son of the "Seagull". This Ann was born about 1701. Regarding your Ann b. about 1670 - she would nearly have to be a daughter of "Seagull" himself, with that DOB. That may be possible since I have no children for "Seagull" and Martha Filmer from 1667 to 1672. Most of my info comes from Filson Club Publications, Vol. 14. Wish I could help. F.G.

Mell; I appreciate your email. I'm trying to prove or disprove that Burkett Green was the fa. of a Nancy Green that wed John Ussery in 1797. I just don't know. When I started looking for the wife [Matilda] of Welcome, supposed son of John and Nancy Green, I was informed that Matilda's maiden name was Green now I'm told that Matilda was a Johnson and the fa. of Welcome was John and Nancy. I would like to think that the dau. of Welcome and Matilda named Nancy was named for her grandmo. but again I just don't know. If you find a loose Nancy hanging around somewhere would you let me know. Welcome was born in Ala. 1806 and there was a John Ussery there but, again whose to say which John Ussery this was. I have other names that keeps hitting me in the head because I can't find them or they were so far back in the boonies or just plain recluse. Martha Martha, I have done some research in Ala. and buried somewhere in my records i have some info on these names you have mentioned. I can't quite remember exactly what. Give me time to look and maybe I can come up with something. I do know I have done some research in King George Co. on a Richard Green. In King George there is a Birckett Davenport there and I thought that maybe that was where Burkett Green had gotten his name. Mell

Here's some additional newspaper articles leading up to "Hamp" Greene's killing of his nephew: THE GREENE-JONES WAR - 1888 (Originally transcribed from newspaper files by the late Alton Greene, Sanger, TX) Collected and recopied from William P. Grohse files by Margaret Long Mabrey. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rogersville Herald, Apr 21, 1888 The Greenes and Jones of Hancock co got into another racket on last Sunday. It appears that while Richard, Lincoln and Tom Greene were out looking over their fields they were fired on by and ambush party, supposed to be members of the Asa Jones family, one of whom Richard killed a few months since. Tom Greene was badly wounded in one of his arms while his brothers received no further injury than to have their clothes torn by some of the bullets. ibid, May 5, 1888... Lee Valley (Apr 30) The Jones and Greenes trouble seems to have quelled for the present, as I do not hear any fresh outburst from either party. Thos Greene is convalescent with his arm but the Physicians do not think it will have to be amputated. ibid, June 9, 1888... "News from the start of the war" (Mooresburg 6/6) Lewis Moore, one of the Hancock co Warriers, passed through this place on Monday of this week; he was at Etter Brothers and bought some oysters and ate them at the store, and while there, gave an account of the killing of Devault in Hancock co last week. He says Devault acted traitor with Jones and his friends and that was the cause of him being killed. Dr Yoe of this place went over the mountain to Hancock co, to amputate and arm for one of the Greenes who had his arm badly broken by some of the warriors over there, and on the way back found a man by the roadside, dead. Dr Yoe stopped at Joshua Davis' and informed him of the fact and Mr Davis, being a Magistrate, summoned Dr. Yoe and a jury and held a post mortem examination over the dead body. Dr Yoe has abandoned his practice in Hancock for the present. (* Joshua Davis married Nellie Brewer, dau of Isham, son of Joab, Jr. by W.P. Grohse) ibid, News from Camilla, June 9, 1888 On the 2nd inst. the Jones party, nine or ten in number, surrounded Mr Hamp Greene's house. About the dawn of day the Greenes discovered the Jones party and sending their wives and children out, both parties began firing at about the same time.... supposed to have been about 300 shots shots fired in succession on both sides, several shot through the clothes but none seriously wounded but one little boy that had crawled under the bed for protection, got shot through just above the hips and died last Tuesday. The Sheriff of Hancock co., Geo. Wilburn and James Brooks and others, thirty six in number came to arrest the Jones crowd, but all had absconded but one, H. F. Ferrell; they took him to Sneedville jail to lay over until court. Think is we had more such men as Sheriff Drinnon, Brooks, and Wilburn, we would have better times, which if ever needed, it is now. ibid, June 16, 1888... The fuss between the Greenes and Jones is abating some. I have been informed that they stacked their arms. The Greene side went and gave up their arms last Monday and on Tuesday following, a posse of about 60 men started in search of the other side. News came they had found one and arrested one. No other later reliable news at present, but it is thought that the Jones will relent and let civil law decide the trouble between them. The writers opinion opinion is that both sides will finally submit to whatever is right and live under the reign of the civil law instead of the hail of bullets. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ B. Seal, reporter. Ron Greene

Hi all, I've been told my Ann Green b/ 1670?, married to James Hereford ca 1695, d. 1721 Fairfax Co, VA was a descendant of Thomas Seagull...can anyone verify this??? Does anyone have his downline? (Her father was Thomas...no other info known on him...) Thanks! Cyndi in Baltimore

Someone on this may find this of interest. THE GREENE-JONES WAR - 1889/1890 (Originally transcribed from newspaper files by the late Alton Greene, Sanger, TX) Collected and recopied from William P. Grohse files by Margaret Long Mabrey. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rogersville Herald, November 6, 1889 MURDER IN HANCOCK COUNTY Hamp Greene kills his nephew, James Greene - Another chapter in the Jones-Greene war. News reaches us of another murder in our neighbor county - Hancock, which occured in Livesay’s store at Luther P.O. Wednesday morning Oct 30. It appears that Hamp Greene belongs to the Greenes and James Greene to the Jones faction, which is not having war with each other for some time and that Hamp now had two sons in the penitentiary for killing a brother of James Greene in one of their battles, and that he was circulating a petition to the Govenor asking for the pardon of his sons, and upon meeting James Greene on Wed. morning at the above named place, asked him to sign the petition, and upon his refusal to do so some hot words passed between them, and it is said Hamp Greene drew a weight upon James and threatened to strike him with it, when James drew his ever ready Smith and Wesson and began to fire upon him, and after several shots had been fired without effect, Hamp dropped the weight and raised his Winchester rifle and shot James squarely in the forehead, killing him instantly. then walked leisurely to his home without any attempt being made to arrest him, and we undertand is still at large. This unhappy continuation of the Jones-Greene feud is greatly to be regretted, as it will keep up the bad name of Hancock co. abroad and seriously injure its future prosperity. ibid, May 21, 1890..... Ace Jones Surrenders Ace Jones, the leader on the Jones side, in the late Jones-Greene war in Hancock co, after scouting and evading the officers of the law for over 12 months, gave himself up last Thurday, to Deputy Sheriff Henry Davis, of the 13th District of this county, and expressed himself ready for trial upon the charge of killing Thomas J Berry of this county (Hawkins) which was preferred agaiabbed him, and conveyed him a prisoner to the Hancock county jail, to await trial upon charges preferred upon him there. NOTE: The killing of Berry, referred to above, took place in his meat house when he was shot by someone hidden inside. He had gone out there with his son-in-law to set his milk higher, as flood conditions had caused his milk to be ruined. ibid, Sept 24, 1890 The noted Asa Jones murder trial, after a continuance of five days, came to an end Tuesday, with the verdict of acquittal by the jury. Some of the ablest speeches listened to in the court house for several years, were made on both sides. Asa Jones will be taken back to Hancock Co, TN where he stands charged with implicity in the Jones-Greene trouble, but as we understand a compromise has been affected in these cases, he will be permitted to give bond, and thus be a free man once more. (This was the trial for the Berry murder.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ B. Seal, reporter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Back to Hancock County Contributors Page US Internet is the sponsor of TNGenWeb, and has been our Internet service provider since the founding of TNGenWeb in 1996. We thank them.

Green, Thomas The 20th Century Biographical Dictionary of Notable Americans, Vol. 4, p.394 GREEN, Thomas, soldier, was born in Amelia county, Va., June 8, 1814; son of Nathan and Mary (Field) Green. He was educated in Tennessee to which state his father removed when Thomas was an infant: and when the Texas struggle for independence took form he emigrated to that state, and took part in the war of 1836-37, and also in the war with Mexico, 1846-47. He was clerk of the supreme court of Texas while not absent on military duty, 1841-61. Tom Green county was named for him. In 1861 he was made a colonel in the Confederate army and took part in the engagements at Valverde, Feb. 21, 1862, Glorietta, March 26-28, 1862, Las Cruces, and in the recapture of Galveston, and of the steamer Harriet Lane by Gen. J.B. Magruder, commanding the district of Texas, Jan. 1, 1863. He was in command of the cavalry in the division of Gen. Richard Taylor, and his troop of cavalry routed Generals Weitzel and Grover at Koch's plantation on Bayou La Fourche, July 13, 1863. [p.395] This engagement won for him the rank of brigadier-general, and the was placed in command of the cavalry division of the trans-Mississippi department. He commanded a brigade of Texas cavalry in Marmaduke's cavalry division in the Red River campaign, and took part in the engagements at Bayou St. Patrice, April 7, 1863, Mansfield (Sabine Cross-Roads), April 8, and in harassing the retreating Federal army, April 8-12, and he was mortally wounded while firing upon the Federal gunboats from a bluff near Blair's Landing, La., April 12, and died on Blair's Plantation, April 14, 1864. David A. Macaulay Archivist of MACAULAY and related Families Scotland to New England, and Beyond ! www.familyweb.nu/ www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/5248/saugus.htm

Green, Nathan The 20th Century Biographical Dictionary of Notable Americans, Vol. 4, p.392 GREEN, Nathan, educator, was born in Winchester, Franklin county, Tenn., Feb. 19, 1827; son of Nathan and Mary (Feild) Green, and grandson of Thermos and Nancy Green. His father was born in Amelia county, Va., May 16, 1792; was a soldier in the war of 1812; a lawyer in Amelia county, 1813-15, and in Winchester, Tenn., 1815-28; a state senator, 1827; chancellor of the Eastern district, 1828-31; judge of the supreme court and chief justice, 1831-52; professor of the law department, Cumberland university, Lebanon, Tenn., 1848-66, and he died there, March 30, 1866. Nathan, Jr., was graduated at Cumberland university, A.B., 1845, LL.B., 1849. He was the only graduate in the third class, and the fourth student at the university to be graduated. He was a trustee of the university, 1850-56, professor of law, 1856-73, and was elected chancellor of the university, Aug. 20, 1873. He received the degree of LL.D. from Centre college, Ky. David A. Macaulay Archivist of MACAULAY and related Families Scotland to New England, and Beyond ! www.familyweb.nu/ www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/5248/saugus.htm

Martha, I'll try this again. My mail keeps coming back. I think I have something on Burkett Green in Ala. buried some where in my files. From my research in King George Co. Va there was a Birkett Davenport there and I sort of thought that may have been where Burkett Green got his name. Give me a while to dig in my files. Mell

For David A. Macaulay (and other interested parties), I read with interest your postings on Green, Nathan and Green, Thomas. I am looking for people with both these names but the dates on mine are different. I have a copy of an obit on Nathan Green that states he was born in Virginia, November 20, 1822. Was probably in Wythe County, or could have been the city of Alexandria. The Greens before him came from England to Alexandria, then he came from Wytheville to Clay County, Indiana in 1857. Searched for him in census of several states for 1850 and the only one I found the right age was living in Ballard County, Kentucky. The listing had Nathan, a wife Elizabeth and a son, W M age 6 named Thomas. The census listing gave the birth places for Nathan and Elizabeth as VA, the birth place for Thomas as Kentucky. They would have to have been married in Virginia around 1842 or 1843, then came to Kentucky where Thomas was born around 1844. I haven't found Elizabeth or Thomas in the 1860 census but Nathan came to Clay County, Indiana in 1857 and appears in the 1860 1870 and 1880 census, 1890 of course is missing and he died in 1897 and is buried in Clay County. In 1858 he married Charlotte Woolf Ealey and they had 16 children, one of them John Deck Green my Grandfather. Would sure like to find more information on this Nathan Green who married Elizabeth ??? in Virginia, 1842 or 1843 and was living in Ballard County, Kentucky in 1850 with a son named Thomas. Can anyone help me? Harold Wayne Green

Bill Green wrote: > > Hello everyone. > > I just received my copy of the book titled "General Tom Green 'A Fightin > Texan' by Odie Faulk". How fascinating. One issue I hope someone here > can help me with is where Tom was Born. I have been under the > impression he was born in Amelia, Va. According to the book and his > Head Stone, he was born July 8, 1814 in Buckingham County, Va. Odie > said in a footnote on page 2 "General Green's Tombstone, Oakwood > Cemetery, Austin. Other accounts list Green as having been born in > Amelia or Mecklenburg County, Virginia, but his family should have known > the exact spot of his birth with certanity." > > Can anyone add to this? > > Bill Green Bill, I like you have been trying to collect info on the General and had recently obtained a copy of "The Fighting Texan" while attending a Confederate Symposium at the Confederate Research Center in Hillsboro, TX. My prior recording showed him as being born in Amelia Co., VA. and was hopeful that I could tie him into the "Seagull Greens" with their simular birth places and migration patterns to Texas, but have not been able to get past his father Judge Nathan in TN & grandfather Thomas in VA. That is a noble family and one that it would be well if you could tie into. I was amazed, being a lover of history, that I didn't know more about the General as he was an outstanding individual in early Texas history being the battle of San Jacinto with Sam Houston and in the Legislature. I'm posting this to Green-L with hopes others can add. Good luck to you. F.G.

Hello everyone. I just received my copy of the book titled "General Tom Green 'A Fightin Texan' by Odie Faulk". How fascinating. One issue I hope someone here can help me with is where Tom was Born. I have been under the impression he was born in Amelia, Va. According to the book and his Head Stone, he was born July 8, 1814 in Buckingham County, Va. Odie said in a footnote on page 2 "General Green's Tombstone, Oakwood Cemetery, Austin. Other accounts list Green as having been born in Amelia or Mecklenburg County, Virginia, but his family should have known the exact spot of his birth with certanity." Can anyone add to this? Bill Green ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Green family; rcd. A.M. today, just in case you don't have this info. I have not found a source for Burkett being the fa. of Nancy Green that wed John Ussery 1797 Lunenburg, VA. Will keep looking. Martha Burkett Green Born NC married Sarah Vann born 1781 NC in Madison CO,AL her father was Thomas Vann born 1747 in Chowan Co.,NC died Jan 1840 in Madison CO.,AL, married Anne. father of Thomas Vann was Edward Vann born 1714 didn't say where but he died in 1762 in Hartford, Conet. married Mary Barnes born 1718 in Chowen CO., NC Burkett was Sarah Vann's first marriage no children listed. 2nd marriage was to John Lanier born 1774 Gates CO., NC married in Martin Co.,NC Children with John Lazarues Lanier born 8 March 1808 Lena Lanier Byrant Lanier I do not know what happened to Burkett he died or what? I couldn't find anything on his parents so the person that did the research must have been following the Vann line.

I don't know which list I got this from, but it was very interesting. Even though I didn't find anything of use to me, I thought the list would enjoy looking, & may find something of interest. It has some Bibles, picture postcards, photos, slave schedules, photos, letters, etc. The site helps to find original memorabilia. There is a listing of items available, & you can post items you're looking for. You MUST look!!! YOUR PAST CONNECTIONS http://www.pastconnect.com Also, another favorite site is: http://www.familychronicle.com/ Click on: Top Genealogy Web Sites. Many, many wonderful sites to search, especially if your pc is the only research tool you have. Good luck, Bettie WOOD <><

Sue, Do you have a list of children from this marriage. I'm still trying to track down the parents of a Lucinda Green b:1808 in Rensselaer Co., NY. She married Jonathan C Babcock. The family was settled in Henriette, Monroe Co., NY by 1830. Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Judy -----Original Message----- From: Perrault <perrault@blarg.net> To: GREEN-L@rootsweb.com <GREEN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, December 05, 1998 11:36 PM Subject: [GREEN-L] Stephen Green of NY >Hello, >I'm looking for any information on a Stephen Green b. abt 1782, place >unknown, married Catherine Clow in Dec. 1805 at the Wynantskill Reformed >Church in Wynantskill, Rensselaer Co. NY. >Thank you, >Sue Perrault >

Hello, I'm looking for any information on a Stephen Green b. abt 1782, place unknown, married Catherine Clow in Dec. 1805 at the Wynantskill Reformed Church in Wynantskill, Rensselaer Co. NY. Thank you, Sue Perrault