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    1. [GREEN-L] Best place to search in Britain
    2. Elizabeth Angela Guyver
    3. Tree Tops Genealogical is not available in any of the major bookstalls/news Agents in Britain or Europe to my Knowlege. When I have asked for it when you mentioned it before Sue, no-one could trace its suppliers. Sky television only has a limited audience in Britain as well, however, the internet service may be a different story but I have never heard anyon mention using it in Society of Genealogists. They are recognised as the official Genealogy Society in the UK. Library & genealogy enquiries e-mail libbrary@sog.org.uk They support the Genealogical Research Directory (details from Lois Burlo, 737 Calle Pensamlento, Thousand Oaks, CA 91360-4839) which can be found in any Public Library which every town in England has. It is published in May each year and usually has about 150,000 Surname Search Queries. http://ww.ozemail.com.au/~grdxxx The main magazine that is on sale in every News Agent and Bookstall Shop throughout the UK each month is the Family Tree Magazine also supported by SOG. There is a computer section as well as specialised articles about old occupations and tips on how to search in new sources. There is always a listed of names begining searched for and lots more. For Western USA States including Louisiana, Arkansa, Missouri, Iowa and Minnesota info on receiving it from Mrs F Rand, 1062 North Buhach Road, Merced, CA95340 For Eastern States Mrs J Harvey, 2420 New Port Drive, Lansing, MI 48906 - 3541 I wiould be interested to hear if anyone does get any help from the Tree Top as Sue has suggested. In England records are kept much better than in the USA because they are kept both centrally and locally. And it is much the same in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, it is often forgotten that we are separate Countries and that Eire (Southern Ireland is nothing to do with the UK since 1917). Unfortunately in the rebellion of 1917 many of the Public records were burnt so are not available centrally, and you have to rely on the Parist Priest thinking you have a right to see the the records locally. Still searching for David Greene from PA born around 1920. I wonder now if David was his second name. Did anyone have a Greene relative who was in the UK during WWII (1944)? Please let me know if they did. Elizabeth Angela Guyver Eaguyver@btinternet.com

    02/10/1999 08:33:50
    1. [GREEN-L] green digest
    2. shirley ammons
    3. i have lost the last two that you have e-mail me could you resended them thank you shirley ammons

    02/10/1999 07:05:54
    1. [GREEN-L] Fw: For British and European Researchers
    2. Sue Pawley
    3. > Hi Folks, > Seems to me that some of our people were researching in England or other > parts of Europe. The following came up on another list Im on so I thought > I would share with you. I hope this helps someone. > Please read carefully and note that this service is for the UK, Ireland and > Europe Only. > Sue Pawley > trottr@gate.net > formerly trottr@icanect.net > > > > TREE TOPS QUERY SERVICE - INFORMATION > > Web page: http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops/ > > > > 1) The idea is to send your FAMILY TREE QUERY of no more than 40 > > words which must include a postal address, and it will go on the > > television screen on Sky News fastext for one week and be seen all over > > the UK, Ireland and Europe. This is a FREE service and you do not need > > to have the facility to use it. > > > > At the end of each month a copy of the un-edited version of the queries > > are in the TREE TOPS GENEALOGICAL. This is available for sale each month > > and is bought by researchers in many other countries so once your > > message has gone on screen you do get 'passed around' a bit. > > > > 2) The 2nd FREE service is called 'WE'LL MEET AGAIN" which is also > > a query service but more for the living, old pals, war buddies, 20c > > descendants etc. Again 40 words. > > > > All queries for the above two services to be sent to:- > > e-mail: tree.tops@virgin.net > > putting TREE TOPS QUERY on the message line or by snail mail to:- > > P.O. BOX 116, SWINDON, WILTS SN3 2SX, ENGLAND > > No limit to the number of queries you can send but you will only get ONE > > on per week. > > ********************************************************** > > Please note that TREE TOPS is run by one person as a hobby which has got > > a little out of hand. It is NOT financially backed therefore any > > Donations to help with the costs of running these services are most > > appreciated. Please note NO postal replies can be sent unless a sae is > > enclosed, NEITHER can telephone calls or faxes be returned. > > ********************************************************** > > All the 1998 Journals are now only available by e-mail. They contain the > > un-edited version of the queries screened that month. To help > > with the expenses of running this service there is a small charge for > > the e-mail Journals. If interested please write for further details, > > stating your country of residence. > > ********************************************************** > > *** NEW - NEW - NEW *** > > ............................. > > THE RING: Indexes of Wiltshire Parish Marriage Indexes. > > ** NOW ON-LINE! ** > > The URL is: http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops/mring/ring.htm > > > > The On-line Indexes provide only a listing of the names of > > persons married in a parish in Wiltshire. > > It is hoped that the first parishes will be available on fiche > > early in 1999. Regrettably no searches can be undertaken. > > If you wish to be informed when the fiche are available please > > send a message to:- ringwilts@cwcom.net > > In the Subject line please write THE RING, these will then be > > passed on to the agent supplying the fiche. > > Please let the RING know which parishes you are interested in. > > ********************************************************* > > =93THE NAUGHTY FOLK OF WILTSHIRE=94. > > This book is available from Tree Tops. Now in short supply - > > there will be no reprint - order yours now. > > The accused and their accusers. Book containing Court cases > > reported in the Swindon Evening Advertiser 1854-1855, covering Swindon > > and some surrounding areas, coil bound. ISBN 0-921337-90-6. Details of > > price & postage available from Tree Tops. > > > ************************************************************************* > > WILTSHIRE INDEX SERVICE http://www.wis.mcmail.com > > This service provides indexes to help family historians > > researching in Wiltshire, England. > > Current indexes are Burials to 1837, Wills Beneficiaries Index > > (people in wills in Wiltshire Record Office: 1800-1858) and 1871 census > > SURNAMES (this index is COMPLETE). > > From 1 January 1999 all these indexes are published on fiche > > (but some books are still available). Do it Yourself search facilities > > available on website or by purchasing the reasonably priced "search > > fiche". Regrettably personal searches have had to be curtailed for > > family reasons. > > An exciting new index will be launched (hopefully) in April > > 1999. > > For full details and publication list please send SAE to > > P.WILSON, 11,Ardmore Close, Gloucester. GL4 0BJ > > or contact E-mail: wis@mcmail.com > > > ************************************************************************* > >

    02/10/1999 06:27:50
    1. [GREEN-L] Re: GREEN-Cherokee
    2. Hi, Jan. What time frame are we talking about? Carol, stumped and frustrated by Luke GREEN b. 1846 MS, m. Mary JOHNSON d/o Jourdan JOHNSON. Included in 1870 census for Pike Co MS and 1880 census for Lavaca Co TX, d. 1907 Lavaca Co TX.

    02/10/1999 03:01:56
    1. [GREEN-L] Searching
    2. willhn
    3. Here is an article published in the Dallas Morning News 02-08-99, re: searching Confederate graves. ******************************************************* Union soldier's descendant sees him honored Reburial in State Cemetery ends quest lasting 17 years 02/08/99 By Terrence Stutz / The Dallas Morning News Around Central Texas AUSTIN - For James Briones, it's a new grave from an old war, a monument to properly honor his great-great-grandfather - the lone Union private in a field of Confederate grays. Last month, six decades after his death and 134 years after he served his nation in the Civil War, Antonio Briones received a full military burial in the Texas State Cemetery. How the old soldier's remains came here is a story of perseverance by his great-great-grandson, who searched for years for his ancestor's grave and then labored to get him the recognition he deserved. Unlike most of the other Civil War veterans buried nearby, Antonio Briones fought to preserve the United States as a member of the First Texas Cavalry of the U.S., the only Texas military unit that fought for the Union. Only one other identified veteran of the Union army is buried in the cemetery - the man who was Mr. Briones' commanding officer and later a governor of Texas, Edmund J. Davis. The graves of nearly 2,000 Confederate soldiers lie between the two in the gently sloping cemetery in east Austin. James Briones began the search for his forefather more than 17 years ago, after his own father died. His father had told him that his great-great-grandfather had fought in the Civil War, but there were few details, and no one knew where he was buried. He and family members scoured cemeteries in Central Texas on and off for years without luck. He also sought information from the State Archives and military records authorities. "I was pretty discouraged," he said in a recent interview. "Everyone I went to had no information." Finally, about five years ago, while walking with his daughter at the Oakwood Cemetery in east Austin, a groundskeeper told him of an old headstone with the name Briones on it. "When I saw the name on the headstone, my heart dropped," he recalled. The dates showed that his great-great-grandfather was born in 1845 and died in 1938. After taking photographs of the headstone, he returned to the State Archives, where a staff member told him of a mistake that had prolonged the search. "He told me that the military unit listed on the grave fought for the Union," Mr. Briones said. "All along I thought he fought for the Confederacy, and the records I looked through were for Confederate soldiers." The information was confirmed by the National Archives in Washington. The First Texas Cavalry fought in the Rio Grande Valley, Louisiana and Mississippi. Convinced that his great-great-grandfather deserved a more fitting resting place, Mr. Briones began asking about the possibility of re-interment at the State Cemetery. "This man fought in the Civil War. We were very proud of him and felt he deserved this, even though he died many, many years ago," he said. His efforts were aided two years ago when the Texas Legislature passed a law that changed the eligibility rules for the State Cemetery. For most of this century, burial sites were available only for former governors, statewide officeholders and legislators. One could also be admitted by special proclamation of the governor. But lawmakers in 1997 appointed a three-member State Cemetery Committee to oversee the grounds and consider granting other burial sites for individuals who've made a significant contribution to the state - based on recommendations from legislators. After learning about the new rules, Mr. Briones approached Sen. Gonzalo Barrientos of Austin and asked him to recommend a site for Antonio Briones. The request was made, and the cemetery committee gave its approval last fall. "One of the most interesting things about his case is that most people assume that everybody from Texas who fought in Civil War was in the Confederate army," said George Christian, a longtime Austin political consultant and a member of the cemetery committee. "Of course, that was not the case. Texas furnished many good soldiers for the Union. People have even forgotten that Sam Houston was thrown out of office for refusing to swear allegiance to the Confederacy." The State Cemetery, created in 1854, at one time contained the graves of about 60 Union soldiers who served in Austin during the Reconstruction period after the Civil War. But, according to Mr. Christian, their remains were moved to the national cemetery at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio just after the turn of the century in 1900. That left Gov. Davis as the only identified Union soldier in the cemetery for nearly a century, until Antonio Briones was buried about 150 yards from his one-time commanding officer on Jan. 27. Every day now, Mr. Briones, 56, passes the cemetery on his way to work as a city bus driver. He visits the site when he can and believes Antonio would approve of his final resting place. "It is one of the few places in the cemetery where you have a clear view of the Capitol," he said proudly. Stutz is based in the Austin Bureau of The Dallas Morning News. ************************************ Harold Williams, Rootsweb Sponsor Mesquite, TX (Dallas suburb) willhn@flash.net

    02/09/1999 10:37:37
    1. [GREEN-L] GREEN James Wilbur> Greene Co OH
    2. J.Shiver
    3. Once again... James Wilbur GREEN b.1/3/1917 d. 10/26/1991 He was the son of Jacob L. GREEN and Anna E. CLINE As far as I know he lived all his life in Greene Co. (Xenia) When he died he was married to Mary Easter SMITH b.4/20/1924 d.1/4/1998 (my step-grandmother). His first wife was Laura Belle ODER. (d. 1948?) I know he had brothers named, Bill, Charles, and Burt. I am sure there were others as well as sister's but I do not know their names. Any help on these names will be apprieciated.. Thanks Jodie -- SURNAMES: Mine: CLINE, GREEN, GORDON, HARGRAVE, INLOW, JOB, MCCARTY, MILEY, RIGGS, SMALLEY, STULTZ, WASHBURN (OH,TX) Husband's: GEOGHAGAN, HEWITT, MOORE, SHIVER (FL,GA,SC)

    02/08/1999 08:31:51
    1. [GREEN-L] Green/Pierce
    2. gabe
    3. Can anyone tell me how the Green/Pierce are related? Supposedly one of the Green's I am researching is a second cousin to President Franklin Pierce. LuAnn Lawton

    02/07/1999 08:19:51
    1. [GREEN-L] Re: GREEN-D Digest V99 #43
    2. CHIP GREENE
    3. Tom, I think that the relation of Gov Thomas Greens line to Nortons is a possibility and Thomas's Grandfather Thomas Norton Alias Green's mother was a Green and may have been tied into Henry the VIII's Last wifes family Parrs who were Greens. There was a John Green in London with the same arms as Thomas Norton Alias Green (ie gules a cross crosslet ermine within a bordure argent and sable). So some research needs to be done in London also. If anyone knows more about this please let us know. Sincerely Melvin R. Greene (Chip) -----Original Message----- From: GREEN-D-request@rootsweb.com <GREEN-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: GREEN-D@rootsweb.com <GREEN-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 12:31 AM Subject: GREEN-D Digest V99 #43

    02/07/1999 07:57:51
    1. [GREEN-L] Green-Cherokee
    2. jan
    3. I have found out a little more of my Green family....not nearly enough, but this much I now know: My g grandfather was Thomas Green. Other siblings would be Viola, Evelyn, Bob (Bailey), possibly more. His mother was a full blooded Cherokee, gave her heritage as "Watauga". Is there such a branch? Her husband ? Green was more than likely either full-blooded or half as well. They married in Oklahoma when she was 13 and he was 14, traveled back to Tennessee in a covered wagon and settled in Marion, Tn. (Montgomery County). They lived there in the covered wagon until they built their cabin. I do not at this time know their names. I got the information from a great aunt who is now in her 90's, never knew her husband's grandfather and only remembers calling her husband's grandmother "Ma". This gg grandmother Green, the Cherokee was 103 years old when she died, and she told the family that if she had the money (meaning I think that this was in Oklahoma and they could not afford the trip) there was a stone with her lineage written on it in Cherokee....and this would prove her right to the "Cherokee fortune" (what apparently the people of the time called the money coming out of the Miller aps). Why they came to Tennessee, I have no idea unless there were earlier family ties here. All I know is that my g grandfather Thomas said that he was "three quarters Cherokee", and that apparently there is absolutely no doubt in this old aunt's mind, though she is now over 90, that her husband's grandmother, whom she knew well, was a full blooded Cherokee. Can you make heads or tails of any of this? Does any of it fit with what you know of your Green family? Houston Co. TN Coordinator: www.rootsweb.com/~tnhousto/index.htm Stewart Co. TN Co/coordinator: www.rootsweb.com/~tnstewar/index.htm Listowner: Tnstewar-L-request@rootsweb.com; Tnstewar-D-request@rootsweb.com Listowner: Tnhousto-L-request@rootsweb.com; Tnhousto-D-request@rootsweb.com

    02/07/1999 06:52:42
    1. Re: [GREEN-L] Re: GREEN / NORTON Connection.
    2. In a message dated 99-02-07 22:08:30 EST, you write: << I think that the relation of Gov Thomas Greens line to Nortons is a possibility and Thomas's Grandfather Thomas Norton Alias Green's mother was a Green and may have been tied into Henry the VIII's Last wifes family Parrs who were Greens. There was a John Green in London with the same arms as Thomas Norton Alias Green (ie gules a cross crosslet ermine within a bordure argent and sable). So some research needs to be done in London also. If anyone knows more about this please let us know. Sincerely Melvin R. Greene (Chip) >> Hi Chip, I agree with you completely. There are just too many simularities here for the two lines not to be connect in some way. There are several researchers on the GREEN list that have done much more research than I, and hopefull some of them will join the discussion. George Green sent me an old article last year discussing the father of the first Sir Henry Greene. This was a Sir Thomas de Broughton who may have changed his name to Greene, but no one knows for sure. Maybe your Norton who changed his name to Green has some connection. The Broughton estate was also mentioned in the Doomsday Book, and some believe that the family that received this estate from William the Conqureror was the same that became the Green family. I have some info on the Parr family because of the marriage of Maud Green to Sir Thomas Parr, but I don't show any Norton in the line. Let me know if I can provide any data that could help find a conntection to the Norton family you have researched. Best Regards, Tom Green

    02/07/1999 04:30:39
    1. [GREEN-L] Jonathan Smith Green - Maui, Hawaii
    2. I am reposting this information for anyone that might be looking for the Rev Jonathan Smith Green Family. I was on vacation in last February in Maui, Hawaii and was visiting the Maui Historical Society's, Baily House that at one time was the Wailuku Female Seminary. On the wall was information about Edward and Caroline Bailey and a Rev Jonathan Smith Green. I copied the information on the Green Family. I am posting this for anyone who might be looking for this family. Rev Jonathan Smith Green, b/ Dec 20, 1796, Lebanon, CT d/ Jan 5, 1878, Makawao, Maui, Hawaii spouse/ Theodotia Arnold Green, b/ April 3, 1792, East Haddam, CT d/ Oct 5, 1859, Makawao, Maui, Hawaii. They were married on Sept 20, 1827, Boston, MA They had four children as follows: Beriah 1829 - 1829 Mary Elizabeth 1830 -1902 Emily Witter 1835 - 1836 Joseph Porter 1836 - 1886 No other information on the children. Rev Jonathan Smith Green was a Missionary. His schooling was at the Theological Seminary, Sept 1827. He was ordained on Oct 3, 1827. Not much information, but maybe this will help someone with your search. I asked if they had any documents or booklets at the Bailey House, but they have not published any. Marjorie M Medley dvkj40a@prodigy.com

    02/07/1999 01:03:53
    1. [GREEN-L] Greens, Steuben County, NY
    2. Gary O. or Julianne L. Green
    3. I am looking for dates of deaths or other vital record dates of any Greens in Steuben County, NY. In particular, I am trying to locate: Robert Green (b. 1807) and his wife Sally (?) [possibly lived in Addison, NY] Their Children who also had families in Steuben County: Stephen A. Green (b. Abt 1842) and his wife Mary (?) Their children: Carrie, Minnie and Mabel Theodore B. Green (b. Abt 1845) Francis M. Green (b. Abt 1847) Fanny Green (b Abt 1849, Addison, NY) George W. (H.) Green (b. Abt 1851) and his wife Mary (?) Their children, James (b. Abt 1870) and George James Green (b. Abt 1870) is located at this spot on my webpage http://localsonly.wilmington.net/~ggreen/JohnQ/d0001/g0000015.html#I196 Any help or guidance would be appreciated. -- Gary O. & Julianne L. Green May the Saint of Genealogists bless you! mailto:ggreen@wilmington.net Home Page: http://localsonly.wilmington.net/ggreen/ggreen1.html Genealogy: http://localsonly.wilmington.net/ggreen/genelogy.html AFJROTC: http://localsonly.wilmington.net/ggreen/index.html Hope UMC: http://churches.wilmington.org/hopeumc/

    02/06/1999 03:23:39
    1. [GREEN-L] GREEN/GRAYSON/CONRAD
    2. Raymond T. D. Herndon
    3. I'm looking for the family of Albert George GREEN (1814-1920). Married Dorcas Maris (Maria?) Sites GRAYSON (1820-1902) about 1840 in Henderson Co., KY. They were my great-great-grandparents. Their daughter, Maria Emmaline GREEN (1841-aft 1880), married Francis "Frank" CONRAD (1841-1922) in February 1862 in Union Co., KY. Best regards, Raymond Talbott Denton Herndon P. O. Box 64 Henderson, Tennessee 38340 (901) 989-5640 rayherndon@msn.com

    02/06/1999 01:10:50
    1. [GREEN-L] Re: GREEN, William GA
    2. Hi, Barbara. I was responding to a post by William Green dated 2 Feb 99. Maybe he will see this and re-post. William? Carol

    02/06/1999 12:57:25
    1. [GREEN-L] Dr. Joel Green(e)
    2. michelle greene
    3. Has anyone ever run across a Dr. Joel Green(e) born 1791 in Madison County, KY? He married either an Isabella Robinson or Isabella Winchester in Tenn. I know they were in Tenn in 1820, but eventually settled in Howard County, Missouri. Joel died there in 1844. Thanks, Michelle Greene

    02/06/1999 05:56:48
    1. Re: [GREEN-L] Re: GREEN, William GA
    2. I must have missed the post about William from Ga. I have a William Green b. 1824 in Ga. Married Elizabeth Cottingham in Angelina Co. Tx. Barbara

    02/06/1999 01:31:14
    1. [GREEN-L] Re: William Greene [added Ann Green, Gideon Green]
    2. Donna M. Wheeler
    3. Does anyone have any further information about the Willis mentioned (child of Ann H. GREEN)? I have a Willis GREEN (my ggggrandfather) in my line. I have that he was married to Elizabeth (last name unknown) and I have no dates/locations or other information. I do know that my Willis had a son, Asa GREEN who married Harriett BRUCE. Asa and Harriett had George Madison GREEN in Limestone County, Alabama (around 1833 - 1855). Does anyone have ANY information about the above mentioned GREENS? I would appreciate any information. Thanks, donna wheeler

    02/05/1999 09:21:01
    1. [GREEN-L] Re: GREEN-D Digest V99 #48
    2. In a message dated 2/4/99 11:47:26 PM Central Standard Time, GREEN-D- request@rootsweb.com writes: << X-Message: #2 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:25:08 -0800 (PST) From: "Carolyn R. Green" <crgreen@risecom.net> To: GREEN-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199902050425.UAA11927@bl-3.rootsweb.com> Subject: [GREEN-L] Good News for researchers..Rec'd from another List.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > ARCHIVE PUTS HUDDLED MASSES ON-LINE - Volunteers scanning Ellis Island Records. (SF Examiner 2/2/99) >> Hi Terry, The Ellis Island article caught my eye, and I read most every word, and the fact that you typed it yourself, and might I add, I didn't see any mis-spelled words or other errors. YOU DID GOOD!!!! Thanks for caring and sharing. Betty Strawther Rusk, Tx

    02/05/1999 04:57:50
    1. [GREEN-L] Re: GREEN, William GA
    2. Hi, William. Do you have descendant info for your William GREEN? I have a Luke Green b. 1846 MS m. Mary Johnson. 1880 census for Pike Co MS states Luke's fatther b. GA, mother b. SC. Any chance of a connection? Carol

    02/05/1999 04:16:32
    1. [GREEN-L] Israel Green
    2. George L. Greene
    3. Does anyone know the parentage of Israel Green(e), the young Marine officer who captured John Brown at the Battle of Harper's Ferry in October of 1859? He was serving under Col. Robt. E. Lee at the time. I wonder if he might be related to Israel Green of Hubbardston, MA, who lost 3 of his 4 soldier sons during the American Revolution. George L. Greene ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    02/05/1999 02:39:01