Thank you, Cuz. Researching Hawkins Green Calhoun May Ha(w(thorn(e) Powell Second Virginia Colony Betty P -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 9:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [GREEN-L] Re: Code Word WTC Count me among those who is not offended in the least if people need to express their feelings. Remember John Donne's words: "No man is an island....never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee...." It tolled for all humanity on Sept. 11. I agree...someday we'll all return to genealogy which can be a catharsis, but right now some of us need another catharsis. John Hawkins

Count me among those who is not offended in the least if people need to express their feelings. Remember John Donne's words: "No man is an island....never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee...." It tolled for all humanity on Sept. 11. I agree...someday we'll all return to genealogy which can be a catharsis, but right now some of us need another catharsis. John Hawkins

In a message dated 9/22/01 3:28:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > sounds like a good idea :) its a shame in this great country we are stooped > to having to e-mail in code so as not to offend our non American listers. > Freedom is what we are about to go to war to defend,isnt it? I'm strongly > considering leaving this list. > > > Billie > Amen, Billie. I have been a subscriber to this list for ages, and am seriously considering unsubscribing. This "out of line" retoric has not bothered me in the least, and I too, belong to many genealogy related lists. Sometimes, people, we have to bend the basic structure of something because the times demand it. The need to discuss, share and feel that others are listening, can not be limited to a specific forum, with the title BOLDLY printed in the topic line. For many, the need is better fullfilled within a forum that one feels the most comfortable with. The judgementalism of those who do not care to "listen" or to even just sit and patiently put up with hearing the fears and concerns of others really bothers me. For many of these lists, the topic of ONLY genealogy will eventually return if we are all patient and show some compassion. Besides..........this is genealogy in the making. Laurie James

sounds like a good idea :) its a shame in this great country we are stooped to having to e-mail in code so as not to offend our non American listers. Freedom is what we are about to go to war to defend,isnt it? I'm strongly considering leaving this list. Billie C.

Listers: It is my understanding that MyFamily.com (RootsWeb.com and Ancestry.com) has created a special Message Board to handle such messages about the attach on WTC and on the Pentagon. The URL for the board is http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=usa-tragedy.mourning Violet Moore Guy 09/22/2001 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Polombo" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: RE: [GREEN-L] A sugestion? > Great Idea, Stacy. Thank you, > > Betty P > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stacy Smith [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 12:53 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [GREEN-L] A sugestion? > > What if those that want to talk about the attacks entitle the Subject line > "WTC" or "Attacks" or such, that way the ones that don't want to read it > can delete it before opening it? This is just a suggestion. > > Stacy :-) > > (I bet that 100 years from now, our gggrandkids are going to want to know > what happened and what we were feeling "back then". ) jmho > >

Great Idea, Stacy. Thank you, Betty P -----Original Message----- From: Stacy Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 12:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [GREEN-L] A sugestion? What if those that want to talk about the attacks entitle the Subject line "WTC" or "Attacks" or such, that way the ones that don't want to read it can delete it before opening it? This is just a suggestion. Stacy :-) (I bet that 100 years from now, our gggrandkids are going to want to know what happened and what we were feeling "back then". ) jmho

What if those that want to talk about the attacks entitle the Subject line "WTC" or "Attacks" or such, that way the ones that don't want to read it can delete it before opening it? This is just a suggestion. Stacy :-) (I bet that 100 years from now, our gggrandkids are going to want to know what happened and what we were feeling "back then". ) jmho

BENARD GREEN b. abt 1754 Ma. married on 9 Jun 1790 to LOIS DIMAN b. 21 Feb 1758 Ma. and d. 22Ffeb 1839. Children: James Diman, Ezra. Source: LDS Ancestral File Colleen Kitch [email protected]

Really? It has been obvious to many that only the lists trhat are for countries other than America are the only lists asking (some insisting!) that the list not include mail regarding what is going on here. 3 other lists that I subscribe to that are regarding surnames in other countries have asked members to not discuss the attack.Its a shame,but does go to show the differences in countries and freedoms. Billie C.

EDWARD S. GLADDING b. abt 1818 Bristol Co., RI married on 1 Jun 1843 Bristol Co., RI to MARY A. GREEN b. abt 1822 Bristol Co., RI. Children: Elizabeth, Mary A., Jesse. Source: LDS Ancestrral File Colleen Kitch [email protected]

--WebTV-Mail-2734-1419 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I forgot to mention that the reason this post is on the GREEN list is that there are no EASTERBROOKS or GLADDING lists. MARY A. GLADDING was daughter of EDWARD S. GLADDING and MARY A. GREEN Colleen Kitch [email protected] --WebTV-Mail-2734-1419 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQDoLMOUOLO+uyy3bvbGNziu7V1cgIVAKZd0NNXsnImmjRe+VrebGxn9CgA From: [email protected] (Colleen Kitch) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 22:36:57 -0700 (PDT) To: [email protected] Subject: EASTERBROOKS - GLADDING marriage abt 1871 Bristol Co., RI Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) GEORGE EASTERBROOKS b. abt 1842 Bristol Co., RI married abt 1871 Bristol Co., RI to MARY A. GLADDING b. abt 1846 Bristol Co., RI. Source: LDS Ancestral File Colleen Kitch [email protected] --WebTV-Mail-2734-1419--

GEORGE EASTERBROOKS b. abt 1842 Bristol Co., RI married abt 1871 Bristol Co., RI to MARY A. GLADDING b. abt 1846 Bristol Co., RI. Source: LDS Ancestral File Colleen Kitch [email protected]

JOHN GLADDING b. abt 1817 Bristol Co., RI married on 28 Mar 1841 Bristol Co., RI to JULIA GREEN b. abt 1820 Bristol Co., RI. Children: Louisa, Henry, Charles, Frederick R. Source: LDS Ancestral File Colleen Kitch [email protected]

I am just about to give up on my GREEN but will try once more. . In Isle of Wight County VA, THOMAS GREEN, son of WILLIAM and MARY, died before 1727. His wife MARY later married PHILLIP MACODDIN ? He died a short time later MARY's three daughters had JOHN CLARK as their guardian. One was named MARY and could she be the wife of my THOMAS SPENCE? Please help me find them. . Luanne Spence Taylor

Hi there all these lists are used by many people for genealogy research I am a member of over 30 lists and run 20 lists so I recieve a lot of mail everyday,so don't want to recieve so much non family history many on these lists, when you join the list it tells you what the list is for ,so lets all try to keep to this as today alone I have 25 non genealogy mails from lists Cheers from Australia John H Green www.jhgreen.net and we do care about the going on

A New mailing list on Green's in England you may subscribe to this list by sending a message to [email protected] that contains the word subscribe

A New mailing list on Green's in Australia you may subscribe to this list by sending a message to [email protected] that contains the word subscribe

A close friend sent this to me and I thought thelist might like to read it. I think it says what we are all thinking right now. And although it just mentions America, it applies also to th UK, we have fought terrist on our shores for over 30 years now. Yet life still goes on. Many finance and insurance companies have offices both in London and NY and as you all know many Britains were killed in NY last week working at their desks as well. I do not know how much news is getting through from outside the States (we have very little here other than what is happening in NYand thing connected with it). We did have a 3 minute silence and a memorial service in St Paul's last Friday for the victims. At changing of the Guards at Buckingham Palace they played the American anthem. There have been memorial services all over the country and books of rememberance have been opened in all places of worship. I am half American and belong to a list of other Anglo Americans and we have all felt for all of you Stateside, whether you are family, friends or just citizens. We have each other to talk to and share ou feels. Take Care Beth Guyver [email protected] Beth Guyver [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dick Blumenstein" <[email protected]> > To: <Recipient list suppressed> > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:08 PM > Subject: Fwd: Hit the Buildings, Missed America > > > > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:31:01 EDT > > >Subject: Hit the Buildings, Missed America > > > > An open letter to a terrorist: > > > > > > > > Well, you hit the World Trade Center, but you missed America. You hit > the > > > > Pentagon, but you missed America. You used helpless American bodies, > to > > > > take out other American bodies, but like a poor marksman, you STILL > > > missed America. > > > > > > > > Why? Because of something you guys will never understand. America > isn't > > > > about a building or two, not about financial centers, not about > military > > > > centers, America isn't about a place, America isn't even about a > bunch of > > > > bodies. America is about an IDEA. An idea, that you can go someplace > where > > > > you can earn as much as you can figure out how to, live for the most > part, > > > > like you envisioned living, and pursue Happiness. (No guarantees that > > > > you'll reach it, but you can sure try!) > > > > > > > > Go ahead and whine your terrorist whine, and chant your terrorist > litany: > > > > "If you can not see my point, then feel my pain." This concept is > alien to > > > > Americans. We live in a country where we don't have to see your > point. > > > > But you're free to have one. We don't have to listen to your speech. > But > > > > you're free to say one. Don't know where you got the strange idea > that > > > > everyone has to agree with you. We don't agree with each other in > this > > > > country, almost as a matter of pride. We're a collection of guys that > > > > don't agree, called States. We united our individual states to > protect > > > > ourselves from tyranny in the world. Another idea, we made up on the > > > > spot. You CAN make it up as you go, when it's your country. > > > > > > > > If you're free enough. > > > > > > > > Yeah, we're fat, sloppy, easy-going goofs most of the time. That's an > > > > unfortunate image to project to the world, but it comes of feeling > free > > > > and easy about the world you live in. It's unfortunate too, because > > > > people start to forget that when you attack Americans, they tend to > fight > > > > like a cornered badger. The first we knew of the War of 1812, was > when > > > > England burned Washington D.C. to the ground. Didn't turn out like > England > > > > thought it was going to, and it's not going to turn out like you > think, > > > > either. Sorry, but you're not the first bully on our shores, just the > most > > > > recent. > > > > > > > > No Marquis of Queensbury rules for Americans, either. We were the > FIRST > > > > and so far, only country in the world to use nuclear weapons in > anger. > > > > Horrific idea, nowadays? News for you bucko, it was back then too, > but we > > > > used it anyway. Only had two of them in the whole world and we used > 'em > > > > both. Grandpa Jones worked on the Manhattan Project. Told me once, > that > > > > right up until they threw the switch, the physicists were still > arguing > > > > over whether the Uranium alone would fission, or whether it would > start a > > > > fissioning chain reaction that would eat everything. But they threw > the > > > > switch anyway, because we had a War to win. Does that tell you > something > > > > about American Resolve? > > > > > > > > So who just declared War on us? It would be nice to point to some > real > > > > estate, like the good old days. Unfortunately, we're probably at war > with > > > > random camps, in far-flung places. Who think they're safe. Just like > the > > > > Barbary Pirates did, IIRC. Better start sleeping with one eye open. > > > > > > > > There's a spirit that tends to take over people who come to this > country, > > > > looking for opportunity, looking for liberty, looking for freedom. > Even if > > > > they misuse it. The Marielistas that Castro emptied out of his > prisons, > > > > were overjoyed to find out how much freedom there was. First thing > they > > > > did when they hit our shores, was run out and buy guns. The ones that > > > > didn't end up dead, ended up in prisons. It was a big PITA then > > > > (especially in south Florida), but you're only the newest PITA, not > the > > > > first. > > > > > > > > You guys seem to be incapable of understanding that we don't live in > > > > America, America lives in US! American Spirit is what it's called. > And > > > > killing a few thousand of us, or a few million of us, won't change > it. > > > > Most of the time, it's a pretty happy-go-lucky kind of Spirit. Until > we're > > > > crossed in a cowardly manner, then it becomes an entirely different > kind > > > > of Spirit. > > > > > > > > Wait until you see what we do with that Spirit, this time. > > > > > > > > Sleep tight, if you can. We're coming. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > > >Return-Path: <[email protected]> > > > > > > > >

Well said John. Right now the only genealogy I can concentrate on is what sort of world my grandson will grow up in. Debby

Showng your feelings is fine, but PLEASE quit forwarding messages regarding things like company policies which we have no way of verifiying the truth of. That is no different than forwarding other types of messages such as virus hoaxes and other scares. Forwarding items such as these only stirs up the waters and creates more trouble. Joni Vella Still hunting for the parents of my murderer turned politician gr gr gr grandfather, Robert Robinson Green, born August 10, 1811 in Kettle Creek, Cumberland County, Kentucky!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [GREEN-L] Fw: Breaking: New York's Cablevision Bans Flag > Sorry, Darrell, but I think you're wrong. It's important that we be able to > express our feelings and who better than with "family." Let your patriotism > show. > John Hawkins > >