Steve, As you know, I thanked you with great sincerity for your act of random kindness for sending me the photo you took for me while you were in Ypres. Your kindness impressed me and I told you so at the time. Now you, irrationally, have decided to punish all the other members of the mailing list over something that does n't concern them because you and I have disagreed on the Shot at Dawn issue. Well mate, that sounds to me to be spiteful in the extreme and completely contradicts the signature on all your emails, to quote : " People ask me my religion - my religion is kindness " As to insults, I only respond to them I never initiate them. If you intend to leave the list, then do so, that 's your choice but don 't blame me for what you chose to do.. As I see it your pronouncement is just a clumsy attempt to save face over the loss of your disagreement with me over the Shot at Dawn issue. Now that you have spat the dummy, it might be wise to cool down before you cut off your nose to spite your face. Your contributions to the list are well recognized and appreciated. You would miss the list as much as it would miss you. The Shot at Dawn issue is now over between us. Keep up your good work. Regards. Patrick. Perth, Western Australia. Steve wrote: > This sore loser is the one who went out of his way to take photos for you at Ypres recently. Thanks to you, no one else will get the chance of having photos taken. > My wife said that I was an idiot to take photos for someone like you but I said it takes all sorts. Being personally insulted though is the last straw. I am not sure what your problem is but I suggest you 'Get a life' > > At least I have a brain to wash. > I will unsub. Anyone expecting photos of men's graves, will get them. My free service of taking photos in Belgium and France will though cease as of now. > At least you all know the moron to blame. Also that of freely giving my time in research for people. > steve > > patrick holland <lambeth@it.net.au> wrote: > > The predictable sore loser replies from Steve and Ken the pathetic about > the outcome over the shot at Dawn issue only confirm the point which I > made which was that some people have been so brain washed that will > always justify the actions of someone in authority even if they are > wrong. The SS was full of such men. > > I notice that Steve always signs off his emails with the words , I quote : > > " People ask me my religion - my religion is kindness " > > > I find that difficult to accept given the lack of compassion he has always shown over the Shot at Dawn issue. In defense he claims that the records from the time in question are justification for the executions. It is in fact the lack and unreliability of any such evidence which has led the British government to issue the men who were shot a group pardon. Better late than never. > > > As to Steve and his like minded heartless mates I just feel sorry for them. People with their type of mind set exist everywhere and across all times. For example, it has recently been announced in Germany, that over the past couple of year there has been a 50 % increase in Neo-Nazis activity. These contemporary louts in Germany were not even born when Adolf Hitler was condoning the murder of 6 million Jews and countless other prisoners in Nazis concentration camps during WW2 yet they support his views which led to such atrocities. It has been said that those who refuse to learn from the mistakes of history are forced to repeat them. Ain't that just so true. > > > As to changing history. Well, the group pardon will change history. I see that as a right that has long been needed not as a wrong. > > > Patrick Holland. > > > Perth Western Australia. > > > > > > Steve wrote: > >> Some of us prefer to check the records - Guilty as charged and suffered the consequences. Changing history is wrong. >> You can have your opinion but do not ram it down everyone Else's throat. >> Your constant posts on this issue have been dealt with in the past. >> No doubt you will agree to disagree and then put yet another pointless post on the list. >> steve >> >> patrick holland wrote: >> >> >> >> The disappointed response, from those of our members who have always >> been against the proposal that a group pardon being given to those men >> who were unjustly executed in WW1 on orders signed by their own >> military commanders and supported by the government of the day, at the >> announcement that the British government is at last prepared to proclaim >> such a pardon, is not unexpected, given the nature of some human >> beings to accept uncritically the actions of their leaders. >> >> For example, I 've met Germans who have told me that Hitler was a >> great man. There must be many more in Germany today who still feel the >> same way in spite of the evidence that he was responsible for the death >> of 6 million Jews and countless other prisoners in Nazis concentration >> camps during WW2. Obviously, some people given the nature of some >> human beings to blindly accept authority , are loyal to their leaders >> no matter what they do. As you see, I ' m not one of those. >> >> >> Patrick Holland. >> >> >> Perth, Western Australia. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> Researching 9th (service) Battalion Sherwood Foresters (Notts & Derbys Regiment) during the Great War. >> >> www.ypressalient.co.uk >> >> People ask me my religion - my religion is kindness - True enlightenment is nothing but the nature of one's own self being fully realised >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Researching 9th (service) Battalion Sherwood Foresters (Notts & Derbys Regiment) during the Great War. > > www.ypressalient.co.uk > > People ask me my religion - my religion is kindness - True enlightenment is nothing but the nature of one's own self being fully realised > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

9452 Sergt Frederick William Bowen of the 2nd Battalion Royal Welsh Fusiliers who was killed in action on 14th November 1914 aged 28.