I'm researching a man in my home town who served in WW1 and was discharged in November 1917. He died in August 1920 and the death report in one of two local papers said "he went out to Mesopotamia where he suffered much from Malaria and other fevers" whereas the other just said he was "gassed." His death certificate stated he died of (1) Phthisis Pulmonalis and (2) Hemoptysis. His name is not on any war memorial in the town and I'm trying to establish if it should be, so can anyone advise me please if the cause of his death could in anyway be related to his being gassed in the army. Peter

Basically tuberculosis and coughing up blood. Aye Malcolm Sent from my iPhone > On 10 Apr 2018, at 18:35, Peter Metcalfe <[email protected]> wrote: > > e died of (1) Phthisis Pulmonalis and (2) Hemoptysis.

TB was not uncommon in those days - assuming that was the cause. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Malcolm Fergusson via GREATWAR <[email protected]> Sent: 10 April 2018 18:59 To: [email protected] Cc: Malcolm Fergusson Subject: [GREATWAR] Re: Cause of Death Basically tuberculosis and coughing up blood. Aye Malcolm Sent from my iPhone > On 10 Apr 2018, at 18:35, Peter Metcalfe <[email protected]> wrote: > > e died of (1) Phthisis Pulmonalis and (2) Hemoptysis. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Ref - "I'm researching a man in my home town who served in WW1 and was discharged in November 1917. He died in August 1920 and the death report in one of two local papers said "he went out to Mesopotamia where he suffered much from Malaria and other fevers" whereas the other just said he was "gassed." ... His name is not on any war memorial in the town and I'm trying to establish if it should be, so can anyone advise me please if the cause of his death could in anyway be related to his being gassed in the army. Peter - 1) Does he appear in the CWGC database ? 2) Do his service medal records show an application for a Silver War Badge ? 3) If he had been discharged from the services but his death did result from wounds or illness due to war service then he would fall within the qualification period which ended 31-8-1920, but only if the authorities were aware of his death and the circumstances. 4) "Gassed" - served in Mesopotamia. Uhm. Did he serve in any other theatre ? 5) Be aware that local war memorials were not dependent upon any form of authorisation or verification from "official" sources such as the IWGC, HMSO ("Soldiers Died ...", etc), or the War Office. Naming on a local memorial would depend on criteria laid down by the local organising committee and the committee being aware of the casualty. Tom Tom Tulloch-Marshall WW1 Military Research

Hi Tom He was not commemorated by the CWGC and there is no mention of a Silver War Badge on his medal card. The only "evidence" I have is from the two local newspapers and I'm sure they didn't mean he was gassed in Mesopotamia. One newspaper said he was discharged with a pension but there is no service record, which is rather odd I would have thought. There are two other names on the town memorial for which I can find no reason for. One was discharged with a pension due to a heart condition "not caused or aggravated by army service" and died two years later. And the other died on 29th Aug 1921 of cirrhosis of the liver and heart failure. Both were commemorated by the CWGC. There is another man whose name is not on it who died in 1920 and is commemorated by the CWGC. In fact it was only about three years ago they placed a military headstone on his grave in the town cemetery. On the wrong plot I hasten to add. Perhaps the parents of my man simply didn't think about putting his name forward for the memorial, which was erected in 1926. I shall pass his name on to the RBL, along with a few others, and let them decide. Many thanks Peter > Peter - 1) Does he appear in the CWGC database ? 2) Do his service medal > records show an application for a Silver War Badge ? 3) If he had been > discharged from the services but his death did result from wounds or illness > due to war service then he would fall within the qualification period which > ended 31-8-1920, but only if the authorities were aware of his death and the > circumstances. 4) "Gassed" - served in Mesopotamia. Uhm. Did he serve in any > other theatre ? 5) Be aware that local war memorials were not dependent upon > any form of authorisation or verification from "official" sources such as > the IWGC, HMSO ("Soldiers Died ...", etc), or the War Office. Naming on a > local memorial would depend on criteria laid down by the local organising > committee and the committee being aware of the casualty. > Tom > > Tom Tulloch-Marshall > WW1 Military Research > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Petr > "He was not commemorated by the CWGC and there is no mention of a Silver War Badge on his medal card. The only "evidence" I have is from the two local newspapers ..." It would appear then that your man went under the radar, always assuming that his death resulted from war service. "One newspaper said he was discharged with a pension but there is no service record, which is rather odd I would have thought." Newspapers are notoriously innacurate. "There are two other names on the town memorial for which I can find no reason for. One was discharged with a pension due to a heart condition "not caused or aggravated by army service" and died two years later." If this man wasn't "In and by"(ie not caused or aggravated by army service) then its maybe strange that he is on the CWGC database (and I therefore assume he is in SDITGW as well ?). "And the other died on 29th Aug 1921 of cirrhosis of the liver and heart failure. .... There is another man whose name is not on it who died in 1920 and is commemorated by the CWGC." Not enough info to comment on those two. "I shall pass his name on to the RBL, along with a few others, and let them decide." Do the RBL have some influence over this memorial ? Tom Tom Tulloch-Marshall WW1 Military Research