Hi My Grand father suffered from Scarlet fever as a child and he did serve as a Naval Medical Orderly during WW2. However, this period of service wrecked his delicate health, and he died twenty years later, after many years of suffering without my grandmother qualifying for a war pension. Thanks Chris -----Original Message----- From: greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of IanGDurham@aol.com Sent: 05 October 2006 19:11 To: GREATWAR@rootsweb.com Subject: [GREATWAR] Medical Question Hello List, Would having had Scarlet Fever in childhood have been a reason for someone to have been exempted from military service ? Thanks in advance, Ian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ian I don't think the Scarlet Fever itself would be a cause of exemption, and often ran a fairly short, sharp course, followed by recovery. However, there were many severe complications of the illness, notably rheumatic fever, and associated heart disease, and severe chronic renal impairment, which would have caused permanent disability. Of course it was also frequently fatal. Sue Sue Light [Lancing, West Sussex] www.scarletfinders.co.uk On 05/10/06, IanGDurham@aol.com <IanGDurham@aol.com> wrote: > > Hello List, > > Would having had Scarlet Fever in childhood have been a reason for someone > to have been exempted from military service ? > > Thanks in advance, Ian > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Scarlet fever can cause Rheumatic Heart disease or kidney problems...he may have had this and therefore could not serve. We call this Strep throat or strep infection today. Arlette North Port, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Coomber" <lechat@btconnect.com> To: <greatwar@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [GREATWAR] Medical Question > Hi > > My Grand father suffered from Scarlet fever as a child and he did serve as > a > Naval Medical Orderly during WW2. > > However, this period of service wrecked his delicate health, and he died > twenty years later, after many years of suffering without my grandmother > qualifying for a war pension. > > Thanks > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of IanGDurham@aol.com > Sent: 05 October 2006 19:11 > To: GREATWAR@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GREATWAR] Medical Question > > Hello List, > > Would having had Scarlet Fever in childhood have been a reason for someone > to have been exempted from military service ? > > Thanks in advance, Ian > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Might be. Depends on the army (nationality). LGS

Hi, Scarlet fever, I'm told (by an ER nurse), isn't the disease it was 100 years ago. I was shocked when one of my children was diagnosed with it in the 1990s & recovered quite nicely. I remember a child I grew up with (1970s) losing all his eyebrows & eyelashes permanently from it. I also recall reading about Laura Ingalls Wilder's sister, Mary Ingalls, going blind from it, so imagine my horror at hearing my child had it! Somehow, it has lost some of it's punch & was indeed a much worse disease years ago. Incidently, scarlet fever is the rash from the strept (spelling?) virus, as in strept throat. Mary in Canada

Hello List, Would having had Scarlet Fever in childhood have been a reason for someone to have been exempted from military service ? Thanks in advance, Ian

Ian - I do not know why, but I can confirm that my own father had scarlet fever and was exempt from military service for that reason. Sherry IanGDurham@aol.com wrote: >Hello List, > >Would having had Scarlet Fever in childhood have been a reason for someone >to have been exempted from military service ? > >Thanks in advance, Ian > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

> From: SHAWGILLDAVE@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:10:19 -0400> To: greatwar-l@rootsweb.com> Subject: [GREATWAR] Re medals> > Many thanks for your replies.> I think that replicas are the way to go as George's medal card gives no > indication that his medals were not issued> > Regards,> > > Gill Shaw> Born Willesden Middlesex> > Sussex Online Parish Clerk for the parishes of > Aldingbourne, Barnham & Eastergate (Parish of ABE)> & Westhampnett> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d

Gill - there are a few dealers on the www offering British WW1 replica service medals, both full size and miniatures. They aren't difficult to find using Google etc. However, if the intention of your question was "officially" issued replicas from the Ministry of Defence or some other Gov't Dept, then no, you cant get copies that way. regards - Tom Tulloch-Marshall WW1 Military Research website > http://www.btinternet.com/~prosearch/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <SHAWGILLDAVE@aol.com> To: <GREATWAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 4:46 PM Subject: [GREATWAR] Re Medals > Dear Listers, > If a serving soldier, L/C George James Hale, (990 Royal Sussex Reg.) > died in 1918 would it be possible to obtain copies of his medals? > > Gill Shaw

Hello Do you mean the actual medals? if so the answer would be no unless they were never issued and even then difficult. Presumably his next of kin received the medals but the Medal Rolls at Kew should confirm this. The Medal Index Cards are online at National Archives site but it costs £3.50. Sadly many medals for various reasons were sold. EBay and the like have a number for sale at various times. Regards Steve SHAWGILLDAVE@aol.com wrote: Dear Listers, If a serving soldier, L/C George James Hale, (990 Royal Sussex Reg.) died in 1918 would it be possible to obtain copies of his medals? Gill Shaw Born Willesden Middlesex Sussex Online Parish Clerk for the parishes of Aldingbourne, Barnham & Eastergate (Parish of ABE) & Westhampnett ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Researching 9th (service) Battalion Sherwood Foresters (Notts & Derbys Regiment) during the Great War. www.ypressalient.co.uk People ask me my religion - my religion is kindness - True enlightenment is nothing but the nature of one's own self being fully realised

Many thanks for your replies. I think that replicas are the way to go as George's medal card gives no indication that his medals were not issued Regards, Gill Shaw Born Willesden Middlesex Sussex Online Parish Clerk for the parishes of Aldingbourne, Barnham & Eastergate (Parish of ABE) & Westhampnett

Dear Listers, If a serving soldier, L/C George James Hale, (990 Royal Sussex Reg.) died in 1918 would it be possible to obtain copies of his medals? Gill Shaw Born Willesden Middlesex Sussex Online Parish Clerk for the parishes of Aldingbourne, Barnham & Eastergate (Parish of ABE) & Westhampnett

Hallo Joanne The VAD medal index cards are for those who served overseas - there were many times that number who had home service only and therefore didn't qualify for service medals. There are certainly VADs appearing in the London Gazette, mainly for the award of the Royal Red Cross, and a couple who were awarded the Military Medal. I think it's just a question of putting the right information into the search box, and most appear in the form: Miss Annie Edith Cheetham, Nurse, V.A.D. But you need to get the punctuation in the right place, or it sulks. All surviving VAD service records are held at by the British Red Cross Society - address here: http://www.redcross.org.uk/standard.asp?id=3423 but it sounds as though you've already tried that. There are a few service records of VADs at The National Archives in WO399, but the majority refer to women who served as VADs or Special Military Probationers in one of the Territorial General Hospitals in the UK, and even those are few and far between. There are none for women who served in hospitals under the auspices of the Joint War Committee [British Red Cross and St. John] - the vast majority. And seeing as though it's quite near the area you're researching, Paul Nixon's web site about the VAD Hospital has lots of information about VADs in general, but if I remember correctly I think you might have checked that out already. http://www.chailey1914-1918.net/ Best wishes - Sue Sue Light [Lancing, West Sussex] www.scarletfinders.co.uk On 02/10/06, JMBecker@aol.com <JMBecker@aol.com> wrote: > > Hello Listers! > I recently checked -on a lark- documentsonline for Medals for a > female > family member who was in the VAD. Whilst I didn't find her, there are > approximately 10,000 records (I read 65 pages worth) which come up in a > search for > "Voluntary Aid detachment". I was amazed! Surprisingly (?), There were > no > hits for "Voluntary Aid Detachment" or "VAD" in the London Gazette. I > have > searched the web for all I could find and written to the Red Cross but it > occurred to me that perhaps there are military records that may shed some > light? > Any suggestions or information would be greatly appreciated! > Thanks very much! > Joanne > > Joanne MAYS BECKER > Sleepy Hollow, New York > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello The last I heard , the Ministry of Defence held some registers for VAD. Have you checked the Medal Index Cards online? Sadly almost nothing survives of the VAD's records at the National Archives. There are a few books with general details as well. Regards Steve JMBecker@aol.com wrote: Hello Listers! I recently checked -on a lark- documentsonline for Medals for a female family member who was in the VAD. Whilst I didn't find her, there are approximately 10,000 records (I read 65 pages worth) which come up in a search for "Voluntary Aid detachment". I was amazed! Surprisingly (?), There were no hits for "Voluntary Aid Detachment" or "VAD" in the London Gazette. I have searched the web for all I could find and written to the Red Cross but it occurred to me that perhaps there are military records that may shed some light? Any suggestions or information would be greatly appreciated! Thanks very much! Joanne Joanne MAYS BECKER Sleepy Hollow, New York ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Researching 9th (service) Battalion Sherwood Foresters (Notts & Derbys Regiment) during the Great War. www.ypressalient.co.uk People ask me my religion - my religion is kindness - True enlightenment is nothing but the nature of one's own self being fully realised

Hi Sue! Thanks so much for your email and clarification re overseas service being one of the criteria for receipt of a Medal!!!!!!! It explains a lot. Yes, thanks, I had seen Paul NIXON's site, I should have thought to post it as well! Thanks VERY much for the tip about the Gazette, it just didn't make sense that I couldn't find any. I have tried searches in the Gazette in the past and not had much luck. I know there is a trick to it but haven't figured it out yet. I shall experiment using your format! I have received a reply from the Red Cross but unfortunately, they weren't able to find anything about Harriet Alice nee BAKER HOOK. As she lived in Herstmonceux, one of her sons was a Corporal in the REs, and there was a Red Cross Hospital in Hailsham (Cortlands, now demolished), I'm assuming she worked in Hailsham. She died in the influenza epidemic in November 1917 just before the Armistice was signed. Next year I shall check at ESRO and see if I can find anything there. Thanks as always! I always learn a lot from your posts! Joanne In a message dated 10/2/2006 1:41:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, light.sue@gmail.com writes: Hallo Joanne The VAD medal index cards are for those who served overseas - there were many times that number who had home service only and therefore didn't qualify for service medals. There are certainly VADs appearing in the London Gazette, mainly for the award of the Royal Red Cross, and a couple who were awarded the Military Medal. I think it's just a question of putting the right information into the search box, and most appear in the form: Miss Annie Edith Cheetham, Nurse, V.A.D. But you need to get the punctuation in the right place, or it sulks. All surviving VAD service records are held at by the British Red Cross Society - address here: http://www.redcross.org.uk/standard.asp?id=3423 but it sounds as though you've already tried that. There are a few service records of VADs at The National Archives in WO399, but the majority refer to women who served as VADs or Special Military Probationers in one of the Territorial General Hospitals in the UK, and even those are few and far between. There are none for women who served in hospitals under the auspices of the Joint War Committee [British Red Cross and St. John] - the vast majority. And seeing as though it's quite near the area you're researching, Paul Nixon's web site about the VAD Hospital has lots of information about VADs in general, but if I remember correctly I think you might have checked that out already. http://www.chailey1914-1918.net/ Best wishes - Sue Sue Light [Lancing, West Sussex] www.scarletfinders.co.uk On 02/10/06, JMBecker@aol.com <JMBecker@aol.com> wrote: > > Hello Listers! > I recently checked -on a lark- documentsonline for Medals for a > female > family member who was in the VAD. Whilst I didn't find her, there are > approximately 10,000 records (I read 65 pages worth) which come up in a > search for > "Voluntary Aid detachment". I was amazed! Surprisingly (?), There were > no > hits for "Voluntary Aid Detachment" or "VAD" in the London Gazette. I > have > searched the web for all I could find and written to the Red Cross but it > occurred to me that perhaps there are military records that may shed some > light? > Any suggestions or information would be greatly appreciated! > Thanks very much! > Joanne > > Joanne MAYS BECKER > Sleepy Hollow, New York > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Joanne MAYS BECKER Sleepy Hollow, New York

Hello Listers! I recently checked -on a lark- documentsonline for Medals for a female family member who was in the VAD. Whilst I didn't find her, there are approximately 10,000 records (I read 65 pages worth) which come up in a search for "Voluntary Aid detachment". I was amazed! Surprisingly (?), There were no hits for "Voluntary Aid Detachment" or "VAD" in the London Gazette. I have searched the web for all I could find and written to the Red Cross but it occurred to me that perhaps there are military records that may shed some light? Any suggestions or information would be greatly appreciated! Thanks very much! Joanne Joanne MAYS BECKER Sleepy Hollow, New York

Hello They sometimes called it Direct Voice - Telephone line that was not secure. Could it be that. Steve Laffey <laffey@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: hello Can anyone explain the D V in this quotation from a war diary? The only communication with the attacking party which was received by the 21st Division during the operation, or in fact by the infantry Brigadier in charge, was by means of B Battery (96th Brigade) wire to our front line trenches (a buried D V) Many thanks in advance Sue Laffey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Researching 9th (service) Battalion Sherwood Foresters (Notts & Derbys Regiment) during the Great War. www.ypressalient.co.uk People ask me my religion - my religion is kindness - True enlightenment is nothing but the nature of one's own self being fully realised

Sue - couldnt be "DW" could it ? regards - Tom Tulloch-Marshall WW1 Military Research website > http://www.btinternet.com/~prosearch/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laffey" <laffey@blueyonder.co.uk> To: "GREATWAR list" <GREATWAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 5:12 PM Subject: [GREATWAR] yet another abbreviation! > hello > > Can anyone explain the D V in this quotation from a war diary? > > The only communication with the attacking party which > was received by the 21st Division during the operation, or in fact by the > infantry Brigadier in charge, was by means of B Battery (96th Brigade) > wire to our front line trenches (a buried D V) > > Many thanks in advance > > Sue Laffey > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hello Can anyone explain the D V in this quotation from a war diary? The only communication with the attacking party which was received by the 21st Division during the operation, or in fact by the infantry Brigadier in charge, was by means of B Battery (96th Brigade) wire to our front line trenches (a buried D V) Many thanks in advance Sue Laffey

Sometimes a memorial is placed in a cemetery when the person is either buried at another location or the body was not found to bury, so they just put a memorial to the person - ----- Original Message ----- From: "carol" <carol@wakefieldfhs.org.uk> To: "GREATWAR-L" <GREATWAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 6:48 AM Subject: [GREATWAR] War Memorial | Morning listers | | Have been transcribing and finding info for a local memorial and came across someone who died of wounds but is named on a memorial not in a cemetery | | Is this normal, an error on sources etc., | | Can anyone shed a light on this | | | Carol | www.wakefieldfhs.org.uk | www.genealogyjunction.org.uk | | | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |