This is not a WW1 question but I don't know which List to subscribe to so I'm hoping someone can advise me please. Whilst in the Preston Cemetery, Tynemouth on Wednesday I came across an old military headstone which could be 19th century. The inscription is as follows:- John Prendergast Co. D 13 Conn. Inf I would love to find out who this man was so any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards Peter

On a recent visit to the Preston Cemetery, Tynemouth to search for a grave of a Royal Navy man who served on HMS Nottingham which was sunk in the North Sea in 1916 I was surprised to see that his and many other military headstones there were made of what looked like blue marble. I have only ever seen those made of white stone and slate before so I was wondering if this is unusual and for what reason. Most of the men were seamen and the others were army. Also would I be right in saying that the white marble headstones were for those who were killed in action or died of wounds and those made of blue slate were for those who died for other reasons whilst still serving or between conflicts eg there are two made of slate in my local cemetery of a soldier who died of illness in 1920 and another who died of pneumonia in 1918 whilst still doing basic training. Regards Peter

Canadian WWI veteran dies at 106 Harper urges Canadians not to forget Percy Dwight Wilson and his comrades Last Updated: Wednesday, May 9, 2007 | 4:25 PM ET CBC News Percy Dwight Wilson, who was Canada's second-last surviving veteran of the First World War, died in Toronto on Wednesday at the age of 106. Wilson was just 15 when he lied about his age and headed overseas with a Toronto battery in 1916, despite his parents' objections. When he arrived in England, his age was discovered and he was sent back to Canada without ever having fought. First World War veteran Percy Dwight Wilson, shown waving goodbye from the veterans wing at Sunnybrook hospital in Toronto in November, lied about his age to enlist. He died Wednesday at 106. (Canadian Press/Frank Gunn) His son, Paul Wilson, said his father knew the risks involved but was desperate to serve his country. "I think maybe in 1914, when the war broke out, some of the young boys signing up thought it would be a lark," Paul Wilson said. "By 1916, there had been thousands upon thousands of them just killed. They had some horrendous battles." When Wilson got back to Canada, the teenager re-enlisted, but was discharged again because of his age. The second time, he was let go before he even left for Europe. At the start of the Second World War, Wilson again tried to re-enlist but was told he was too old. Continue Article The Prime Minister's Office announced Wilson's passing Wednesday afternoon in a statement offering condolences to his family. "All Canadians, no matter where they live, should not forget him, and the others of his generation, who gave so much for their country," Prime Minister Stephen Harper said. "The sacrifices made and remarkable bravery displayed by Mr. Wilson and his comrades is a lesson for us all." Born Feb. 26, 1901, in the southwestern Ontario town of Vienna, Wilson was one of more than 600,000 Canadians and Newfoundlanders who joined the military to fight in what was then known as the "war to end all wars." Newfoundland and Labrador did not join Confederation until 1949. About 66,000 Canadians died in the four-year conflict. Wilson went overseas with the 69th Battery of Toronto, after doing basic training in Petawawa, Ont. A year before his deployment, he served as a bugler with the 9th Mississauga Horse militia. First Nov. 11 with no WWI veteran at hospital After the First World War, Wilson met his wife, singer Eleanor Dean, while studying music at Toronto's Royal Conservatory. The couple and their children eventually moved to Stratford, Ont. Wilson worked for Bell Canada for 47 years, and also sang semi-professionally. After his wife died in 1993, he spent the last years of his life in the veterans wing of Toronto's Sunnybrook hospital, where he often sang to staff and other residents. Staff member Suzanne Plowman said Wilson will be missed. "I knew as soon as we saw the flag go down [at the residence] that something had happened," she said. "This [Nov. 11] will be the first Remembrance Day we have without a World War I veteran here." His death leaves John Babcock, who lives in Spokane, Wash., as the last surviving Canadian to have served in the 1914-18 war. In recent months, the families of First World War veterans have expressed hesitation about having a state funeral for the last soldier to die. Veterans Affairs is now considering holding a ceremony commemorating all First World War veterans collectively when Babcock dies. With files from the Canadian Press

its way too late now and since all MC starts with the number "5", he better get it cancelled and people wonder why they are victims of IT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Shingleton" <shinglma_64@btopenworld.com> To: <greatwar@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [GREATWAR] Catalogue subs | | | Perhaps people might stop to edit out Ken's credit card details before | posting to the list. | | Is there an administrator on this list? If so some vicious pruning of | recent posts would not go amiss. | | | | | Mike S | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

Great War veteran Dwight Wilson dies at 106 Canadian Press There is only one Canadian veteran of The Great War left after Dwight Wilson died in Toronto today at 106. The Prime Minister's Office made the announcement this afternoon, offering condolences to Wilson's family and saying Canadians should not forget him and the contributions he made to Canada's effort in the First World War. Born Feb. 26, 1901, in Vienna, Ont., a village near the Lake Erie shore about 20 kilometres south of Tillsonburg, Wilson was one of more than 600,000 Canadians and Newfoundlanders who joined the military to fight in what was then known as the "war to end all wars." About 66,000 Canadians died in the four-year conflict. Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the sacrifices and "remarkable bravery" of Wilson and his comrades is a lesson for all. His death leaves only John Babcock, who lives in Spokane, Wa., as the last surviving Canadian to have fought in the 1914-18 war. Babcock, also 106, has said he doesn't want a state funeral.

Dear Ken, Hopefully you have completed the advice given by others, and I am sure once Claire sees her list she will immediately delete all of the thread from the archives and post confirmation of her action. You also posted your details to the old address of this open list, the one that contains "-L" may I suggest you delete that one from your address book. All the best, because you will need it if you posted then closed down. Alan T... -----Original Message----- From: greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KEN WILSON-WHEELER Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 8:04 PM To: GREATWAR@rootsweb.com Subject: [GREATWAR] Catalogue subs Hi I have a feeling that you enclosed a renewal form with your last catalogue and that I need to pay up for another year. BUT... I can't find the form - it might have been a casualty of a recent "tidy up and get rid of that clutter exercise"! If I am due to pay up please charge the subs to my SNIPPED; expiry date SNIPPED; security code SNIPPED. Regards, K. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Perhaps people might stop to edit out Ken's credit card details before posting to the list. Is there an administrator on this list? If so some vicious pruning of recent posts would not go amiss. Mike S

Ken you must cancel this card right now you put all your details on an open site. - ---- Original Message ----- From: "KEN WILSON-WHEELER" <ken.wilsonwheeler@tesco.net> To: "GREATWAR@rootsweb.com" <GREATWAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 8:03 PM Subject: [GREATWAR] Catalogue subs > Hi > I have a feeling that you enclosed a renewal form with your last catalogue > and that I need to pay up for another year. BUT... I can't find the form - > it might have been a casualty of a recent "tidy up and get rid of that > clutter exercise"! If I am due to pay up please charge the subs to my > MasterCard 5404 4031 0918 5709; expiry date 03/08; security code 477. > > Regards, > K. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

As rightly pointed out below the KOYLI are not the Green Howards but the Yorkshire Regiment. Sorry for muddying the waters. If George's grandfather's medal card says KOYLI the medal roll of that regiment will list his battalion. Regards Mike S Wednesday, May 9, 2007, 7:20:20 PM, you wrote: > Mike > KOYLI are not the Green Howards, they are the Yorkshire Regiment, The > Princess of Wales's Own a different regiment. > Alistair

Hopefully you will realize your mistake in sending this to a public list. *You should cancel your card immediately!* You should also never send C/C details by email, but is you must split into numerous emails and use text instead of numbers.. David. KEN WILSON-WHEELER wrote: > Hi > I have a feeling that you enclosed a renewal form with your last catalogue and that I need to pay up for another year. BUT... I can't find the form - it might have been a casualty of a recent "tidy up and get rid of that clutter exercise"! If I am due to pay up please charge the subs to my MasterCard xxxxxxxxxxxxxx expiry date xxxxxxx security code xxxxxxxxx > > Regards, > K. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- *David Ford* *Your Old Books & Maps* http://youroldbooksandmaps.co.uk Old books, Army, Navy & India Lists, Maps on CD

Hi I have a feeling that you enclosed a renewal form with your last catalogue and that I need to pay up for another year. BUT... I can't find the form - it might have been a casualty of a recent "tidy up and get rid of that clutter exercise"! If I am due to pay up please charge the subs to my MasterCard 5404 4031 0918 5709; expiry date 03/08; security code 477. Regards, K.

Mike KOYLI are not the Green Howards, they are the Yorkshire Regiment, The Princess of Wales's Own a different regiment. Alistair ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Shingleton" <shinglma_64@btopenworld.com> To: "George Carter" <greatwar@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [GREATWAR] 11th Yorkshire Regiment. East or West > Hello George, > > I recognise your name from the Northumbria list! > > The East Yorkshire Regiment, West Yorkshire Regiment and the (King's > Own) Yorkshire Light Infantry are three separate regiments. The > latter is known as the Green Howards and it is therefore information > on this regiment that your require. The war diaries for 11th East > Yorks and 11th West Yorks are of no use in this matter. > > 11th (King's Own) Yorkshire Light Infantry were a reserve battalion. > To the best of my knowledge the 11th Battalion never served overseas > and it is likely that your Grandfather, whilst attesting with the 11th > battalion, served overseas and was wounded with another battalion of > the regiment. The medal rolls at Kew should confirm this. > > If I am right in thinking that the 11th KOYLI did not serve abroad it > would mean that there would be no war diary (I can't find one in the > catalogue at Kew). > > If you can wait until next week I will have a look at the medal rolls > on your behalf. They should confirm the battalion with which your > grandfather served. > > Kind regards > > > > Mike Shingleton > > Tuesday, May 8, 2007, 8:41:21 PM, you wrote: > >> Thank you Alistair, >> I have been to the Green Howards Museum a couple of years ago. Roger the >> manager was really helpful. Regarding the diary, I don`t know if they >> have a >> copy there. I`ve posted them the question, but they are closed for a >> while, >> until the end of the month I think for refurbishment. >> The P.R.O. however does have the 2 or even 3 diaries for 11th East Yorks >> Regt and 11th West Yorks Regt. > >> Thanks for the interest and your suggestion. > >> Regards. > >> George. > >> Researching >> CARR / PEARSON / WHARRIER from Gateshead >> CARTER in Barningham, Newsham, Darlington and Gateshead >> CARLTON from Staindrop. >> KIRWAN from Dublin QUINN from Brosna, Kings County FLYNN from >> Ballinlough, >> Roscommon >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Alistair Chafer >> Sent: 08 May 2007 19:53 >> To: greatwar@rootsweb.com; GREATWAR-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [GREATWAR] 11th Yorkshire Regiment. East or West > >> I think you should be looking at the Yorkshire Regiment ( Princess of >> Wales's Own) , The Green Howards. >> The Regimental Museum at Richmond, N.Yorks, are very helpful. >> Alistair >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "George Carter" <gacarter@btinternet.com> >> To: <GREATWAR-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:45 PM >> Subject: [GREATWAR] 11th Yorkshire Regiment. East or West > > >>> I`m hoping in the near future to be able to visit the P.R.O. To view the >>> war >>> diary of the 11th Yorkshire Regiment in WW1 in which my grandfather >>> served >>> and was wounded, probably at one of the battles of the Somme. >>> >>> My first problem is that the P.R.O. has 2 diaries, one for the 11th >>> battalion East Yorkshire and one for the 11th battalion West Yorkshire. >>> >>> The enlistment information I have says he was posted to the 11th by 19th >>> Aug >>> 1915. On the medal card I have for his regiment it just says, Yorkshire >>> Light Infantry. He (Christopher George Carter) lived in Gateshead and he >>> enlisted in Gateshead in Durham, so it`s not easy to link to either East >>> or >>> West Yorkshire. >>> Can anyone help work out which diary I need to read? I`m not expecting >>> finding his name mentioned I believe this is rare, but would hate to get >>> it >>> all wrong. He was according to his record, sent home wounded in >>> September >>> 1916. I found this in the Green Howards Newsletter and got the >>> attestment >>> details from the Green Howards. >>> >>> 23159 Carter C G B in the age column? , date of attestment 7 8/15 , >>> attested Gateshead , Posted to 11th By 19.8.15 >>> Found in The Green Howards Gazette September 1916, included in the roll >>> of >>> honour. Wounded 23159 C.G.Carter >>> >>> Would anyone know what the B in the age column could stand for? >>> > >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.4/790 - Release Date: 05/05/2007 >> 10:34 >> > > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the message > > > > -- > Best regards, > Mike mailto:shinglma_64@btopenworld.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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I did not mean to compound Ken's error. I meant to reply only to him. Apologies!! Janice USA

Hi Ken, You may want to call your credit card company and stop usage on this card immediately as inadvertently you posted your info. to the great war website. NEVER put all the numbers in one email. Janice USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "KEN WILSON-WHEELER" <ken.wilsonwheeler@tesco.net> To: "GREATWAR@rootsweb.com" <GREATWAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:03 PM Subject: [GREATWAR] Catalogue subs > Hi > I have a feeling that you enclosed a renewal form with your last catalogue > and that I need to pay up for another year. BUT... I can't find the form - > it might have been a casualty of a recent "tidy up and get rid of that > clutter exercise"! If I am due to pay up please charge the subs to my > MasterCard 5404 4031 0918 5709; expiry date 03/08; security code 477. > > Regards, > K. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike, Thanks for the interest. Are the Medal Rolls and the Medal Cards one and the same? I managed to download the medal card some time ago. This just says the Yorkshire Light Infantry. If the Rolls do add any information I`d really appreciate it. Thanks for the offer. I`m going to Kew probably in September, a birthday treat from my wife. I want to make sure I`m researching the correct diary. I`d hate to waste my time there on the wrong one has I don`t know if I`ll be there again. Cheers Mike, I recognise your name off the Northumbria list also. George. Researching CARR / PEARSON / WHARRIER from Gateshead CARTER in Barningham, Newsham, Darlington and Gateshead CARLTON from Staindrop. KIRWAN from Dublin QUINN from Brosna, Kings County FLYNN from Ballinlough, Roscommon -----Original Message----- From: greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Shingleton Sent: 08 May 2007 22:09 To: George Carter Subject: Re: [GREATWAR] 11th Yorkshire Regiment. East or West Hello George, I recognise your name from the Northumbria list! The East Yorkshire Regiment, West Yorkshire Regiment and the (King's Own) Yorkshire Light Infantry are three separate regiments. The latter is known as the Green Howards and it is therefore information on this regiment that your require. The war diaries for 11th East Yorks and 11th West Yorks are of no use in this matter. 11th (King's Own) Yorkshire Light Infantry were a reserve battalion. To the best of my knowledge the 11th Battalion never served overseas and it is likely that your Grandfather, whilst attesting with the 11th battalion, served overseas and was wounded with another battalion of the regiment. The medal rolls at Kew should confirm this. If I am right in thinking that the 11th KOYLI did not serve abroad it would mean that there would be no war diary (I can't find one in the catalogue at Kew). If you can wait until next week I will have a look at the medal rolls on your behalf. They should confirm the battalion with which your grandfather served. Kind regards Mike Shingleton Tuesday, May 8, 2007, 8:41:21 PM, you wrote: > Thank you Alistair, > I have been to the Green Howards Museum a couple of years ago. Roger the > manager was really helpful. Regarding the diary, I don`t know if they have a > copy there. I`ve posted them the question, but they are closed for a while, > until the end of the month I think for refurbishment. > The P.R.O. however does have the 2 or even 3 diaries for 11th East Yorks > Regt and 11th West Yorks Regt. > Thanks for the interest and your suggestion. > Regards. > George. > Researching > CARR / PEARSON / WHARRIER from Gateshead > CARTER in Barningham, Newsham, Darlington and Gateshead > CARLTON from Staindrop. > KIRWAN from Dublin QUINN from Brosna, Kings County FLYNN from Ballinlough, > Roscommon > > -----Original Message----- > From: greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Alistair Chafer > Sent: 08 May 2007 19:53 > To: greatwar@rootsweb.com; GREATWAR-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GREATWAR] 11th Yorkshire Regiment. East or West > I think you should be looking at the Yorkshire Regiment ( Princess of > Wales's Own) , The Green Howards. > The Regimental Museum at Richmond, N.Yorks, are very helpful. > Alistair > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Carter" <gacarter@btinternet.com> > To: <GREATWAR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:45 PM > Subject: [GREATWAR] 11th Yorkshire Regiment. East or West >> I`m hoping in the near future to be able to visit the P.R.O. To view the >> war >> diary of the 11th Yorkshire Regiment in WW1 in which my grandfather served >> and was wounded, probably at one of the battles of the Somme. >> >> My first problem is that the P.R.O. has 2 diaries, one for the 11th >> battalion East Yorkshire and one for the 11th battalion West Yorkshire. >> >> The enlistment information I have says he was posted to the 11th by 19th >> Aug >> 1915. On the medal card I have for his regiment it just says, Yorkshire >> Light Infantry. He (Christopher George Carter) lived in Gateshead and he >> enlisted in Gateshead in Durham, so it`s not easy to link to either East >> or >> West Yorkshire. >> Can anyone help work out which diary I need to read? I`m not expecting >> finding his name mentioned I believe this is rare, but would hate to get >> it >> all wrong. He was according to his record, sent home wounded in September >> 1916. I found this in the Green Howards Newsletter and got the attestment >> details from the Green Howards. >> >> 23159 Carter C G B in the age column? , date of attestment 7 8/15 , >> attested Gateshead , Posted to 11th By 19.8.15 >> Found in The Green Howards Gazette September 1916, included in the roll of >> honour. Wounded 23159 C.G.Carter >> >> Would anyone know what the B in the age column could stand for? >> > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.4/790 - Release Date: 05/05/2007 > 10:34 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Best regards, Mike mailto:shinglma_64@btopenworld.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.4/790 - Release Date: 05/05/2007 10:34 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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Hello George, I recognise your name from the Northumbria list! The East Yorkshire Regiment, West Yorkshire Regiment and the (King's Own) Yorkshire Light Infantry are three separate regiments. The latter is known as the Green Howards and it is therefore information on this regiment that your require. The war diaries for 11th East Yorks and 11th West Yorks are of no use in this matter. 11th (King's Own) Yorkshire Light Infantry were a reserve battalion. To the best of my knowledge the 11th Battalion never served overseas and it is likely that your Grandfather, whilst attesting with the 11th battalion, served overseas and was wounded with another battalion of the regiment. The medal rolls at Kew should confirm this. If I am right in thinking that the 11th KOYLI did not serve abroad it would mean that there would be no war diary (I can't find one in the catalogue at Kew). If you can wait until next week I will have a look at the medal rolls on your behalf. They should confirm the battalion with which your grandfather served. Kind regards Mike Shingleton Tuesday, May 8, 2007, 8:41:21 PM, you wrote: > Thank you Alistair, > I have been to the Green Howards Museum a couple of years ago. Roger the > manager was really helpful. Regarding the diary, I don`t know if they have a > copy there. I`ve posted them the question, but they are closed for a while, > until the end of the month I think for refurbishment. > The P.R.O. however does have the 2 or even 3 diaries for 11th East Yorks > Regt and 11th West Yorks Regt. > Thanks for the interest and your suggestion. > Regards. > George. > Researching > CARR / PEARSON / WHARRIER from Gateshead > CARTER in Barningham, Newsham, Darlington and Gateshead > CARLTON from Staindrop. > KIRWAN from Dublin QUINN from Brosna, Kings County FLYNN from Ballinlough, > Roscommon > > -----Original Message----- > From: greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Alistair Chafer > Sent: 08 May 2007 19:53 > To: greatwar@rootsweb.com; GREATWAR-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GREATWAR] 11th Yorkshire Regiment. East or West > I think you should be looking at the Yorkshire Regiment ( Princess of > Wales's Own) , The Green Howards. > The Regimental Museum at Richmond, N.Yorks, are very helpful. > Alistair > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Carter" <gacarter@btinternet.com> > To: <GREATWAR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:45 PM > Subject: [GREATWAR] 11th Yorkshire Regiment. East or West >> I`m hoping in the near future to be able to visit the P.R.O. To view the >> war >> diary of the 11th Yorkshire Regiment in WW1 in which my grandfather served >> and was wounded, probably at one of the battles of the Somme. >> >> My first problem is that the P.R.O. has 2 diaries, one for the 11th >> battalion East Yorkshire and one for the 11th battalion West Yorkshire. >> >> The enlistment information I have says he was posted to the 11th by 19th >> Aug >> 1915. On the medal card I have for his regiment it just says, Yorkshire >> Light Infantry. He (Christopher George Carter) lived in Gateshead and he >> enlisted in Gateshead in Durham, so it`s not easy to link to either East >> or >> West Yorkshire. >> Can anyone help work out which diary I need to read? I`m not expecting >> finding his name mentioned I believe this is rare, but would hate to get >> it >> all wrong. He was according to his record, sent home wounded in September >> 1916. I found this in the Green Howards Newsletter and got the attestment >> details from the Green Howards. >> >> 23159 Carter C G B in the age column? , date of attestment 7 8/15 , >> attested Gateshead , Posted to 11th By 19.8.15 >> Found in The Green Howards Gazette September 1916, included in the roll of >> honour. Wounded 23159 C.G.Carter >> >> Would anyone know what the B in the age column could stand for? >> > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.4/790 - Release Date: 05/05/2007 > 10:34 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Best regards, Mike mailto:shinglma_64@btopenworld.com

Thank you Alistair, I have been to the Green Howards Museum a couple of years ago. Roger the manager was really helpful. Regarding the diary, I don`t know if they have a copy there. I`ve posted them the question, but they are closed for a while, until the end of the month I think for refurbishment. The P.R.O. however does have the 2 or even 3 diaries for 11th East Yorks Regt and 11th West Yorks Regt. Thanks for the interest and your suggestion. Regards. George. Researching CARR / PEARSON / WHARRIER from Gateshead CARTER in Barningham, Newsham, Darlington and Gateshead CARLTON from Staindrop. KIRWAN from Dublin QUINN from Brosna, Kings County FLYNN from Ballinlough, Roscommon -----Original Message----- From: greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alistair Chafer Sent: 08 May 2007 19:53 To: greatwar@rootsweb.com; GREATWAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GREATWAR] 11th Yorkshire Regiment. East or West I think you should be looking at the Yorkshire Regiment ( Princess of Wales's Own) , The Green Howards. The Regimental Museum at Richmond, N.Yorks, are very helpful. Alistair ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Carter" <gacarter@btinternet.com> To: <GREATWAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: [GREATWAR] 11th Yorkshire Regiment. East or West > I`m hoping in the near future to be able to visit the P.R.O. To view the > war > diary of the 11th Yorkshire Regiment in WW1 in which my grandfather served > and was wounded, probably at one of the battles of the Somme. > > My first problem is that the P.R.O. has 2 diaries, one for the 11th > battalion East Yorkshire and one for the 11th battalion West Yorkshire. > > The enlistment information I have says he was posted to the 11th by 19th > Aug > 1915. On the medal card I have for his regiment it just says, Yorkshire > Light Infantry. He (Christopher George Carter) lived in Gateshead and he > enlisted in Gateshead in Durham, so it`s not easy to link to either East > or > West Yorkshire. > Can anyone help work out which diary I need to read? I`m not expecting > finding his name mentioned I believe this is rare, but would hate to get > it > all wrong. He was according to his record, sent home wounded in September > 1916. I found this in the Green Howards Newsletter and got the attestment > details from the Green Howards. > > 23159 Carter C G B in the age column? , date of attestment 7 8/15 , > attested Gateshead , Posted to 11th By 19.8.15 > Found in The Green Howards Gazette September 1916, included in the roll of > honour. Wounded 23159 C.G.Carter > > Would anyone know what the B in the age column could stand for? > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.4/790 - Release Date: 05/05/2007 10:34

I think you should be looking at the Yorkshire Regiment ( Princess of Wales's Own) , The Green Howards. The Regimental Museum at Richmond, N.Yorks, are very helpful. Alistair ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Carter" <gacarter@btinternet.com> To: <GREATWAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: [GREATWAR] 11th Yorkshire Regiment. East or West > I`m hoping in the near future to be able to visit the P.R.O. To view the > war > diary of the 11th Yorkshire Regiment in WW1 in which my grandfather served > and was wounded, probably at one of the battles of the Somme. > > My first problem is that the P.R.O. has 2 diaries, one for the 11th > battalion East Yorkshire and one for the 11th battalion West Yorkshire. > > The enlistment information I have says he was posted to the 11th by 19th > Aug > 1915. On the medal card I have for his regiment it just says, Yorkshire > Light Infantry. He (Christopher George Carter) lived in Gateshead and he > enlisted in Gateshead in Durham, so it`s not easy to link to either East > or > West Yorkshire. > Can anyone help work out which diary I need to read? I`m not expecting > finding his name mentioned I believe this is rare, but would hate to get > it > all wrong. He was according to his record, sent home wounded in September > 1916. I found this in the Green Howards Newsletter and got the attestment > details from the Green Howards. > > 23159 Carter C G B in the age column? , date of attestment 7 8/15 , > attested Gateshead , Posted to 11th By 19.8.15 > Found in The Green Howards Gazette September 1916, included in the roll of > honour. Wounded 23159 C.G.Carter > > Would anyone know what the B in the age column could stand for? > > Thanks for any help with this. > > George Carter in Whaley Bridge > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.4/790 - Release Date: 05/05/2007 > 10:34 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I would not clean it unless I had talked to someone and knew it would not damage the casing, if you can use a small brush and try to brush off any dirt (and please keep the dirt, I know this sounds ridiculous), but its possible if you want to go that far, use the dirt to find out exactly where and when it was fired - Can you translate the mm into inches for me, my mind don't do metric very well. delilah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Holkham" <Holkham@compuserve.com> To: <greatwar@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: [GREATWAR] GREATWAR Digest, Vol 2, Issue 78 | To: Great War List | Re: Somme Bullet | | Many thanks Delilah and Ray for your replies. I am sending by separate | e-mail pics of the casing lengthwise and endwise for you to look at. | | Best wishes | | Tony Holkham | Researching 19th Manchesters PALS (Cpl Ernest Briggs) | | | Message: 1 | Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 03:45:12 -0400 | From: Tony Holkham <Holkham@compuserve.com> | Subject: [GREATWAR] Somme bullet | To: GreatWarList <GREATWAR@rootsweb.com> | Message-ID: <200705070345_MC3-1-E2E9-C33C@compuserve.com> | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 | | To: Great War List | Re: Somme bullet id | | Can someone help with this please? I have been given a bullet casing found | on the Somme (where my grandfather fought with the 19th Manchesters). | | On the base are several numbers and letters. Looking at it as a circle, in | an arc at the top are the letters I A R T D I, and in an arc at the bottom | the letters E B S I. Separating these two arcs on the right are the numbers | 02 or 92 horizontally together, and on the left what look like the numbers | 1 (with a tail as in continental writing style) and possibly 2 (or it may | be a Z). | | The casing looks to be about 12mm across at the base, narrowing gradually | at first then more so in the top 10mm, and about 50mm total length, with | the opening at the top about 8mm in diameter. | | I'm guessing it's French or German but have no experience of these things. | | Also found in the same area were several small, heavy ballsabout 12mm in | diameter which look like grape shot. Would this be the case, or could they | be musket balls perhaps from an earlier conflict? | | Thanks and best wishes, | | Tony Holkham | Researching 19th Manchesters PALS (Cpl Ernest Briggs) | | ------------------------------ | Message: 2 | Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:43:32 -0400 | From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> | Subject: Re: [GREATWAR] Somme bullet | To: <greatwar@rootsweb.com> | Message-ID: <004b01c790be$783e8e20$6c849804@delilahs> | Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" | | Is there a way you can send to my e-mail a photo of this - the initials may | | stand for the manufacturer, the numbers may be the size of the ammo - thats | | why I would like to look at it, if possible - can you tell me in inches | what | your mm might be - is there anything stamped on the bottom of the casing - | that may tell the size | delilah | | ------------------------------ | Message: 3 | Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 20:40:27 +0100 | From: "ray parker" <rlp@shikari.fsnet.co.uk> | Subject: Re: [GREATWAR] Somme bullet | To: <greatwar@rootsweb.com> | Message-ID: <001901c790df$91657280$6d8087d9@k0w8g6> | Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" | | Re Somme Relic. | This looks like a 8mm Lebel Rifle round. The case dimensions would be | defined as 8x50R. The 02or 92 would be the manufacture date, ie: 1902. | The 8mm Lebel cartridge was standard issue to the French army throughout | WW1 | and was used in the Lebel Model M18886 and M1893 Rifles as well as in | French | Hoskiss machine guns. | | Hope this helps | | Ray | < | | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |