If I can dare to add to Forrest's comments: If a family at the time said that they did not want an inscription, then one can never be added. If at the time the family did not answer the request, then a family could later (and, I believe, still can) add an inscription. I suspect that only obscenities were not allowed. I must admit I have never counted to see how many letters were used, but there are some very factual inscriptions: SHOT AT DAWN was allowed, and Kingston's youngest deceased simply had his parents' names and address. Peter

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I have a lot of books, magazines from the 8th AF Historical Society, I have a few that lists names and has photos, the 8th AF was the largest Heavy Bombardment in WW2 and WHARTON was the largest Air Depot, they have numbers. - either I can post the names I find, some have pictures or how ever you would want it. Let me know if this is something you would be interested in. The calendar has events that happened on certain days and some names that were given awards posthumosly. There are also stories of different things, I coul dpost thek if it would be interesting. Also since the 8th AR was in the 2nd Air Division, I have requested the names of everyone that was in the 2nd Air Division. I also have a lot of associations and reunion dates, if wanted. I also can get some histories of units from those that ceme out of Camp Fanning. I have map/list where the US Marines wre in the wars and where they landed and fought on the globe since 1775. Do you have the info on th eorganization of the 8th AF and all the units that were in the 8th. delilah evans

My apologies, due to a typing area, the website address in the original email was incorrect in the body of the text. The correct address is as shown below. Thanks Dennis Corbett Historian 2nd South Midland (241st) Brigade, Royal Field Artillery. Website http://www.denniscorbett.com

If any kind listers are planning visits to the battlefields in Northern France, is there a chance someone might be willing to take one or more grave photographs for me? I need some photos for a non-commercial project from a number of different cemeteries. With one exception there is just one grave in each cemetery. If anybody could help with even a single photograph I would be most grateful. I have asked CWGC in France to recommend a local photographer I could pay to have these graves photographed and was basically told to get lost because I am not a relative. The photos are needed to complete my website dedicated to the Royal Field Artillery in Worcestershire. I have a picture of the headstones for all but one of the fallen in France, Flanders, Italy and the UK and want to complete the project. A number of French graves are needed to complete the job. Unfortunately (?) I now live in Tenerife and the chances of getting to France myself are now almost nil. If you have a relative who fought in the Worcestershire artillery during WW1, may I invite you to visit the tribute website at www.dennicorbett.com/241.html. You can check in the alphabetical lists if we have him listed. The website is backed up by a database detailing the almost 2500 men in the 1st/2nd South Midland Brigade (later 241 Brigade) Royal Field Artillery. If he is listed, contact me and I will let you have any information I have on him. If you know he was in the brigade and I do not have him listed, again please contact me (but be prepared to forgive me if I get excited!) There is no charge for any information I can let you have, my duties as historian for the brigade are completely voluntary. Please note that I do not hold information on "the Worcesters" meaning the infantry of the Worcestershire Regiment. This is purely an artillery project. Thanks Dennis Corbett Historian 2nd South Midland (241st) Brigade, Royal Field Artillery. Website http://www.denniscorbett.com

Dennis Have you tried the British War Memorial Project? http://www.britishwargraves.org.uk/ If they have the photos you are looking for there is no charge though donations are welcome. And of course they always need volunteers. Not just for overseas war graves but Britain too. I am a volunteer and find it very satisfying. I have also recieved many photos from them too of men from my home town who died in WW1. Regards Peter

The 33rd Engineers was a general construction regiment assigned to the Services of Supply of the AEF in France and disbanded at Camp Grant, Illinois in July 1919. The main WFA website at _www.wfa-usa.org_ (http://www.wfa-usa.org) has a link to Army historical offices which may have regimental rosters and other information. LGS ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

My search continues for any information on my great-uncle, Joseph J. Michael from Baltimore. He was in the Army twice, the first time from 1909-12 and again during the Great War 1917-19. He was in Company F of the 33rd Engineers, and according to the Order of Battle, they left Hoboken for France, but there is no other information. As stated earlier, NARA will release WWI records only to immediate family (who are all dead). Does anyone have information on the places of service of 33rd engineers in Europe? Dos anyone have any photos of the 33rd, which might include Joseph Michael? Photos might have been taken at Fort Devens, Mass., Hoboken Port of Embarkation, England, France, or elsewhere. I would gladly pay for any copies or duplications of photos or other materials. David Crider Birmingham, AL --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Sue and Forrest, You are miracle workers. Forrest, you got the right one with Miss A L Ross ( Anne Leslie Ross). She was at City Fever Hospital Edinburgh prior to serving with the Queen Alexandra's Imperial Military Nursing Service Reserve then returned to the Royal Infirmary Edinburgh in 1917. (Later lived in EH12) Sue, The British Journal of Nursing is a goldmine. I assume that Miss A Ross who attended the investiture on 4th October is the same as Miss A L Ross who was found by Forrest I wonder if it is possible that the Miss A Ross who was Mentioned in Despatches for service on Hospital Ships is the same lady. With awards for gallantry it is possible because they would relate to separate incidents, whereas the awards in question are for devotion to duty over a period of time. Many thanks for your help. Jim -----Original Message----- From: greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:greatwar-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Anderson Sent: 10 July 2007 08:39 To: GREATWAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GREATWAR] Associate Royal Red Cross On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 22:21:32 +0100, "Sue Light" <light.sue@gmail.com> wrote: >I haven't searched the LG for this [I want to retain the will to live], but >the British Journal of Nursing has a couple of references to an Anne Ross. >Firstly, she attended an Investiture at Buckingham Palace on the 4th October >1916, where she was presented with her ARRC by The King. There is also a >piece about a Mention in the Despatches of Sir John Maxwell for service on >Hospital Ships, again in the BJN on July 1st 1916. Both these refer to a >woman who was a member of Queen Alexandra's Imperial Nursing Service >Reserve. Searching for awards to nurses in the London Gazette can indeed be pretty soul-destroying, but I think I've tracked her down eventually... London Gazette, 3 June 1916, page 5601 <http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveViewFrameSetup.asp?webtype=0&IssueN umber=29608&pageNumber=49&SearchFor=&PageDuplicate=n&selMedalType=&selHonour Type=> --------------- War Office, 3rd June, 1916. The undermentioned Ladies are awarded the decoration of the Royal Red Cross, in recognition of their valuable services in connection with the War: - QUEEN ALEXANDRA'S IMPERIAL MILITARY NURSING SERVICE, RESERVE. Royal Red Cross, 2nd Class. Staff Nurses. Miss A. L. Eoss. --------------- The reason that she was particularly difficult to find can be seen from the way the London Gazette's optical character recognition has interpreted the word Ross as Eoss. This is a remarkably common error, and if you go to the search engine at http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveSearch.asp?WebType=0&Referer=WW1 and ask it to look for Eoss, you'll get 86 hits! On my travels through the LG, I also came across this A Ross in the edition for 8 Aug 1919, and I give her details so that she can be eliminated from the list of Anne Ross candidates: ----------------- His Majesty the KING has been graciously pleased to award the Royal Red Cross to the undermentioned Ladies in recognition of valuable nursing services under "The British Red Cross Society" or "Order of St. John of Jerusalem in England" rendered in connection with the war: AWARDED THE ROYAL RED CROSS. 2nd Class. Miss Alexandria Ross, V.A.D. Nurse, Arnot Hill Auxiliary Hospital, Daybrook. ----------------- Forrest -- Forrest Anderson, Edinburgh, Scotland. E-mail: forrest@military-researcher.com Website: www.military-researcher.com Forrestdale Research - Military Genealogical Researcher ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 22:21:32 +0100, "Sue Light" <light.sue@gmail.com> wrote: >I haven't searched the LG for this [I want to retain the will to live], but >the British Journal of Nursing has a couple of references to an Anne Ross. >Firstly, she attended an Investiture at Buckingham Palace on the 4th October >1916, where she was presented with her ARRC by The King. There is also a >piece about a Mention in the Despatches of Sir John Maxwell for service on >Hospital Ships, again in the BJN on July 1st 1916. Both these refer to a >woman who was a member of Queen Alexandra's Imperial Nursing Service >Reserve. Searching for awards to nurses in the London Gazette can indeed be pretty soul-destroying, but I think I've tracked her down eventually... London Gazette, 3 June 1916, page 5601 <http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveViewFrameSetup.asp?webtype=0&IssueNumber=29608&pageNumber=49&SearchFor=&PageDuplicate=n&selMedalType=&selHonourType=> --------------- War Office, 3rd June, 1916. The undermentioned Ladies are awarded the decoration of the Royal Red Cross, in recognition of their valuable services in connection with the War: — QUEEN ALEXANDRA'S IMPERIAL MILITARY NURSING SERVICE, RESERVE. Royal Red Cross, 2nd Class. Staff Nurses. Miss A. L. Eoss. --------------- The reason that she was particularly difficult to find can be seen from the way the London Gazette's optical character recognition has interpreted the word Ross as Eoss. This is a remarkably common error, and if you go to the search engine at http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveSearch.asp?WebType=0&Referer=WW1 and ask it to look for Eoss, you'll get 86 hits! On my travels through the LG, I also came across this A Ross in the edition for 8 Aug 1919, and I give her details so that she can be eliminated from the list of Anne Ross candidates: ----------------- His Majesty the KING has been graciously pleased to award the Royal Red Cross to the undermentioned Ladies in recognition of valuable nursing services under "The British Red Cross Society" or "Order of St. John of Jerusalem in England" rendered in connection with the war: AWARDED THE ROYAL RED CROSS. 2nd Class. Miss Alexandria Ross, V.A.D. Nurse, Arnot Hill Auxiliary Hospital, Daybrook. ----------------- Forrest -- Forrest Anderson, Edinburgh, Scotland. E-mail: forrest@military-researcher.com Website: www.military-researcher.com Forrestdale Research - Military Genealogical Researcher

Jim I haven't searched the LG for this [I want to retain the will to live], but the British Journal of Nursing has a couple of references to an Anne Ross. Firstly, she attended an Investiture at Buckingham Palace on the 4th October 1916, where she was presented with her ARRC by The King. There is also a piece about a Mention in the Despatches of Sir John Maxwell for service on Hospital Ships, again in the BJN on July 1st 1916. Both these refer to a woman who was a member of Queen Alexandra's Imperial Nursing Service Reserve. You can search for these here: http://rcnarchive.rcn.org.uk/ and I used the term 'A. Ross' to find her. If you have any trouble, drop me an email and I'll send them. You haven't said whether 'your' Anne Ross was a member of QAIMNS, or the Territorial Force Nursing Service/Civilian, and the details above might fit with your information, but The National Archives Catalogue show that there were at least three different women with the name Anne/Annie Ross who have service files - one a member of QAIMNS, and the other two TFNS - and there could be others around - civilians, British Red Cross etc., so you need to confirm you have the right candidate. But it would certainly be worth looking at the service file of the QAIMNS Reserve Member first, who seems to be the most likely candidate, and whose file reference is WO399/7209. The files are not online, and are produced as original documents at The National Archives at Kew. Regards ----- Sue On 09/07/07, J L Flemington <flemington.jim@talktalk.net> wrote: > > Hello all, > > I am frequently impressed by the depth of knowledge of many of the > contributors to this list and their willingness to help. I am now > appealing > for some pointers about where I should look. > > I am trying to trace the award of an ARRC to Nurse Anne Ross, probably in > the period 1914-1917. The London Gazette have put many decorations on the > internet but not the ARRC. > On the medal cards I have found a card with the notation "Nurse A > Ross" and > a pencil note "Hospital Ship". I had not had any previous mention of > hospital ship service, and there had been a presumption that the award had > been made for hospital services at Aldershot. > > Where do I go from here? > > Many thanks to all who think they might give me a clue. > > Jim > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello all, I am frequently impressed by the depth of knowledge of many of the contributors to this list and their willingness to help. I am now appealing for some pointers about where I should look. I am trying to trace the award of an ARRC to Nurse Anne Ross, probably in the period 1914-1917. The London Gazette have put many decorations on the internet but not the ARRC. On the medal cards I have found a card with the notation "Nurse A Ross" and a pencil note "Hospital Ship". I had not had any previous mention of hospital ship service, and there had been a presumption that the award had been made for hospital services at Aldershot. Where do I go from here? Many thanks to all who think they might give me a clue. Jim

Hi Janice The last link gave me everything I needed, thanks for all your help Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Duke" <mshx@optonline.net> To: <greatwar@rootsweb.com>; "ww1" <greatwar-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [GREATWAR] 1st Royal Warwickshire Regiment > Hi Terry, > Perhaps these can help: > http://www.warpath.orbat.com/regts/r_warwicks.htm > http://www.1914-1918.net/4div.htm > http://www.regiments.org/wars/20ww1/francefl.htm > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=5452608&queryType=1&resultcount=55 > > Janice > USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry Evans" <terry_evans@btinternet.com> > To: "ww1" <greatwar-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:23 PM > Subject: [GREATWAR] 1st Royal Warwickshire Regiment > > >> Does anyone know the whereabouts and actions of the 1st Royal >> Warwickshire >> Regiment between November 2nd-5th 1914. >> Any help will be greatly appreciated >> Terry Evans >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/891 - Release Date: 08/07/2007 > 18:32 > >

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:23:14 +0100, "Terry Evans" <terry_evans@btinternet.com> wrote: >Does anyone know the whereabouts and actions of the 1st Royal Warwickshire Regiment between November 2nd-5th 1914. The War Diary for Oct-Nov is available for download from the National Archives website for £3.50: ---------------------------- http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=5452608&queryType=1&resultcount=55 Description: War Diary: France, Belgium and Germany. 4 Division, 10 Infantry Brigade, 1 Battalion Royal Warwickshire Regiment. October 1914 - November 1914 Date: 1914 October - 1914 November Catalogue reference: WO 95/1484 First World War and Army of Occupation War Diaries Image contains Part 3 of 55. Whole document available Number of image files: 2 Image Ref Format Version Pt No Size (KB) No of Pages Price GBP 5/108 PDF 1.2 1 1039 10 3.50 5/109 PDF 1.2 2 993 9 0.00 Total Price (£) 3.50 ---------------------------- Forrest -- Forrest Anderson, Edinburgh, Scotland. E-mail: forrest@military-researcher.com Website: www.military-researcher.com Forrestdale Research - Military Genealogical Researcher

Hi Terry, Perhaps these can help: http://www.warpath.orbat.com/regts/r_warwicks.htm http://www.1914-1918.net/4div.htm http://www.regiments.org/wars/20ww1/francefl.htm http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=5452608&queryType=1&resultcount=55 Janice USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Evans" <terry_evans@btinternet.com> To: "ww1" <greatwar-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:23 PM Subject: [GREATWAR] 1st Royal Warwickshire Regiment > Does anyone know the whereabouts and actions of the 1st Royal Warwickshire > Regiment between November 2nd-5th 1914. > Any help will be greatly appreciated > Terry Evans > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know the whereabouts and actions of the 1st Royal Warwickshire Regiment between November 2nd-5th 1914. Any help will be greatly appreciated Terry Evans

I am researching a sailor who was with HMS Fisgard from October 1913 to August 1914.I am led to believe that HMS Fisgard was a shore base in Portsmouth for the training of artificers. My man was a stoker so could he have been training there or was there also a HMS Fisgard ship at that time. Any help will be greatly appreciated Terry Evans

Sorry Terry about the first link. I was working on something else & this link was place accidently in my response. Janice USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Duke" <mshx@optonline.net> To: <greatwar@rootsweb.com>; "ww1" <greatwar-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [GREATWAR] HMS Fisgard > Hi Terry, > See: > http://www.sporting-memories.com/aai/gc002.htm > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/Mariners/2003-01/1042880382 > http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18368&pid=142557&mode=threaded&start=#entry142557 > http://www.scimitardiving.co.uk/page61.html > http://www.pdavis.nl/ShowShip.php?id=1453 > > Hope this helps, > Janice > USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry Evans" <terry_evans@btinternet.com> > To: "ww1" <greatwar-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 5:51 PM > Subject: [GREATWAR] HMS Fisgard > > >>I am researching a sailor who was with HMS Fisgard from October 1913 to >>August 1914.I am led to believe that HMS Fisgard was a shore base in >>Portsmouth for the training of artificers. My man was a stoker so could he >>have been training there or was there also a HMS Fisgard ship at that >>time. >> Any help will be greatly appreciated >> Terry Evans >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Terry, See: http://www.sporting-memories.com/aai/gc002.htm http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/Mariners/2003-01/1042880382 http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18368&pid=142557&mode=threaded&start=#entry142557 http://www.scimitardiving.co.uk/page61.html http://www.pdavis.nl/ShowShip.php?id=1453 Hope this helps, Janice USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Evans" <terry_evans@btinternet.com> To: "ww1" <greatwar-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 5:51 PM Subject: [GREATWAR] HMS Fisgard >I am researching a sailor who was with HMS Fisgard from October 1913 to >August 1914.I am led to believe that HMS Fisgard was a shore base in >Portsmouth for the training of artificers. My man was a stoker so could he >have been training there or was there also a HMS Fisgard ship at that time. > Any help will be greatly appreciated > Terry Evans > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GREATWAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As given by others, a committee decided who was on a MEMORIAL. 2. With regard to Stoke Climsland there are three CWGC graves there, 2 WW1 and 1 WW2. If not on the Memorial they probably didn't come from Stoke Climsland.: The same occurs in my local churchyard with men who died at the local training camp but were not locals. 3. Some graves in the Churchyard list men who died and are buried overseas in CWGC graves. Try putting some of the names into CWGC and see if they are really buried in the ' Family plot ' in Stoke Climsland. The men in the graveyard are below of whom only HARRY SEARLE would qualify as Stoke Climsland. Name: BULLER, HAMILTON THOMAS Initials: H T Nationality: Canadian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Canadian Infantry (Saskatchewan Regiment) Unit Text: 46th Bn. Age: 28 Date of Death: 13/10/1919 Service No: 781028 Additional information: Son of Elizabeth Buller, of "Sunnyside," Sandrake, St. Germans, Cornwall, and the late Amos Buller. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: 71. Cemetery: STOKE CLIMSLAND (ALL SAINTS) CHURCHYARD EXTENSION Name: SEARLE, HARRY DOIDGE Initials: H D Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Sergeant (Pilot) Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve Date of Death: 21/08/1942 Service No: 1315569 Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. J. Searle, of Stoke Climsland. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Grave 129. Cemetery: STOKE CLIMSLAND (ALL SAINTS) CHURCHYARD EXTENSION Name: STIDWELL, RICHARD Initials: R Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Gunner Regiment/Service: Royal Garrison Artillery Age: 24 Date of Death: 03/08/1918 Service No: 840 Additional information: Husband of Mary Stidwell, of 19, Raymond St., Hanley, Stoke-on-Trent. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: 28. Cemetery: STOKE CLIMSLAND (ALL SAINTS) CHURCHYARD EXTENSION Aye Malcolm