Iolani: I tried to send you a message at an address you had posted; i.e.; iolani@ithink.net and it was returned. If you have e-mail now, please let me know. My address: jbgrainger@mediaone.net. I'll wait til I hear from you to outline what I have, but I believe I can help. I descend from John Grainger, Sr. thru 3 children: 1. Goldsberry, Sr. , the line I think you are referring to. 2. Elizabeth, who married a Jernigan. 3. John, Jr. , my primary line; i.e. the one I get the surname from. Sincerely, Jennings Grainger