Hi List, On the Family Search IGI there is a John GRANGER who was born (I think this may have been a baptism) 25 Jun 1824 at Saint Cuthbert's, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. His parents are shown as Hugh GRANGER and Agnes BROWN the details are "extracted". The FreeCEN 1841 census shows the family: - Piece: SCT1841/685/2 Place: Edinb.St Andrew-Midlothian Enumeration District: 88 Civil Parish: St Cuthbert's Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Cuthbert's Folio: 88 Page: 2 Address: Castle Bank ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks GRAINGER Hugh M 40 Carter Outside Census County (1841) GRAINGER Agnes F 40 Midlothian GRAINGER John M 15 Midlothian GRAINGER Elisabeth F 10 Midlothian GRAINGER Margret F 8 Midlothian GRAINGER Agnes F 12 Midlothian GRAINGER Jenet F 6 Midlothian BROWN James M 35 Carter Midlothian You will also notice that there is a James BROWN living with the family (may be a brother of Agnes?). For 10 year I have been trying to ID my 2 x Great Grandfather John GRAINGER who married Isabella BOWIE on 22 Jan 1850 in Saint Cuthbert's, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. I think I may finally found "my" 2 x Great Grandfather John GRAINGER with the help of FreeCEN. Now the 2 child (first daughter) was baptised Mary Davidina Brown GRAINGER by the Rev. David BROWN (late minister of the Scottish Church in Liverpool. Is there anyone on the List who is connected to Hugh GRANGER and Agnes BROWN or any of there descendants? If there is I would sure love to hear from you. Talk to you later. Best regards, Ian Butterworth Reservoir Victoria Australia --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 7/29/2004