Sorry, I have had to send this a second time as the first message was full of HTLM. Hi List, >From my 2 x Great Grandfather, John GRAINGER's 1883 Death Entry on Page 54, #160 in the Parish of Colinton in the County of Edinburgh I have found his parents were John GRAINGER and Christina GALL. He is shown as aged 65 years (born c. 1818). The 1881 Census shows: - Dundas Street, Alexander's Land and the Census place was Monifieth, Forfar, Scotland. Dwelling: Dundas St Alexander's Land Census Place: Monifieth, Forfar, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203496 GRO Ref Volume 310 EnumDist 1 Page 30 Married Age Sex Birthplace John GRAINGER M 54 M Cupar, Fife, Scotland (Therefore born c. 1827). Rel: Head Occ: Shoemaker Isabella GRAINGER M 55 F Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Wife Isabella GRAINGER 7 F Dundee, Forfar, Scotland >From 1808 - 1828 in Scotland on the Family Search IGI I can only find 4 John GRAINGER (GRANGER) with the father as John and the only one with no mother shown is: - John <GRANGER> Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Christening: 15 Jan 1818 Associate Congregation, Strathaven, Lanark, Scotland -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: John GRANGER -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: C190411; Dates: 1767-1861; Source Call No.: 0304671; Type: Film; Printout Call No.: None. Does anyone have a John GRAINGER who married a Christina GALL on their Tree? Is there any kind person who could do a lookup for a John GRAINGER (son of a John - and hopefully Christina) who was born between 1818-1827? Talk to you later. Best regards, Ian Butterworth Reservoir Victoria Australia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 7/02/2005