I have re-appeared finally with news that I have gained access to hundeds of very old (a few newer) books (not in my possession) that gave me a wealth of new information on the Gorin clan. Rather than try to put it together in a book, I will, with your permission, post once a day and go thru this material. I will give you sources for all the material. I think many of your will be greatly pleased. As a brief overview - here are the family members mentioned: L L Terry biography. This gives the entire story of one I posted earlier on the adventures of Catherine Gorin (d/o Henry and Sarah), in her adventures of getting back to KY plus a lot more data on the Terry family as it ties in with us. Rev. A. M Cockerell, s/o Averlina Gorin and Newton Cockrill out of JOhnson Co IL - she the d/o John and Elizabeth Franklin Gorin. Ellen Gorin in Washington Co IL - believe she was Sanford Pell Gorin's dau - will have to double check. Dr James T Crow and his family - backward and frontward - Green Co IL Dr B W Gorin "superior skill by accomplished physician" - Radford Boon in IN Frederick Walker Stith, s/o David and Mary Gorin Stith, Los Angeles CA Dr. B W Gorin - Cited as Pike Co MO physician John Gorin Harvey and Mary Alice - John Gorin's line Gladin Gorin in Nelson Co KY I'll try to get organized. It's downright cold for KY, only reached 19 today with wind chill of 5 and I don't do cold weather anymore. (Don't say anything Tom, I know you're a lot colder where you are!). After adjusting to my dau Kris heading off to college, I'm shifting into the empty-nest routine later in life and it doesn't help that I can't get out and enjoy life due to the cold, some sleet, some feezing rain, some snow! See you tomorrow! Sandi