I'm on hold for a little while so went back and read the census records from 1800-1850. THe 1800 is really reconstructed from tax records. A lot of our known Gorin's are missing and I know where they were - the indexer must have really misread the names. Here is what I found. I didn't read each census for all the "tick marks" showing children and age groups, I was just looking for where everyone was. Talk about clobbering spellings! I didn't run the east cost families. 1800: Jacob Gorin (clearly), Reading, Burks, PA ? James Goran, Falmouth Township,Cumberland, ME ??? Robert Goren, Hartford Co MD ? Harvin Goram, Chester Township, Chester Co SC ? Thomas Gorham - St Pauls Township, Collton, SC ? Jeremiah Goin, Claridon, Sumpton, SC 1810: If there is an initial in parenthesis after the name, this indicates the branch of the Gorin family - J for John, H for Henry and G for Gladin. Henry and John (H) - Christian Co KY John Goran - Barren Co (J) Gladdin Gorin (G) - Warren Co KY John H Gorin (G) - Warren Co KY Sanford Goram - Stoner, Bourbon, KY John Goran - Scott Co KY - ? Alexr Gorum - Bourbon Co Henson Gorum - Loudon Co VA Thomas and Thomas Goram - Logan Co KY Micajah Goen - Bourbon Co KY Isaac Goen - Logan Co KY 1820: Henry Gorin (H) - Todd Co KY John Gorin Jr (J) - Monroe Co KY John H Gorin (H), Warren Co KY Alexander Goren - Philadelphia PA Thomas Goran - Truro Parish, Fairfax Co VA Elizabeth Goran - same Thomas Gorham - Franklin Co GA - these turn into Gorin's later on John Gorham - Fayette Co KY George Gorham - Fayette Co KY Joshua Gorham - Russellville, Logan, KY William Gorham - same 1830: GORIN: John D - Fayette Co IL (H) Sanford - White Co IL (H) John D - White Co IL (H) James M, John (J) - Barren Co KY Sally - Todd Co (H - Henry's widow) Gladen (G) - Stewart Co TN GOREN: WIlliam R - Hickman Co TN (G) Thomas B - Humphrey Co TN (G) GORAN: James - Savannah, Chatham, GA (J) Thoms Sj - Thomas Jefferson Gorin (J) - Burkesville, Cumberland KY Thomas & Elizabeth - Fairfax Co VA GORHAM in KY: Harvey in Bourbon Co KY John in Fayette Co KY WIlliam A in Frankfort, KY Joshua and Alexander in Logan Co KY 1840: GORIN: John D (H), Fayette Co KY Frederick (H), Gallatin Co IL S P (H), Tazewell Co KY Thomas J (J) - Barren John H (G) - Warren GORIN: Henry M - Macon Co IL (H) George - Warren Co IL (H) Franklin & Elizabeth - Barren (J) John - Logan Co KY (J) James - Byrds, Cape Girardeau MO? H R - St Ferdinant, St Louis MO? for now Gladen - Henderson Co TN (H) GORAN: G[ladin Jr] - Natichitoches, LA (G) William - Clay Co MO (J) George H - Lafayette Co MO ? for now A R - Yalobusha Co MS (G) GORAM: Thomas, Franklin, Putnam IN George - Fayette Co KY Elijah, Henry S, Eliander, Nancy, SHelby, WIlliam - Logan CoKY John H & G G in Scott Co KY - don't know yet I'll do the 1850 later on. If I didn't put a line indication or a ? after the name -it's the Gorhams I noted in time line.