Bob - thanks for the post to the list! Today, one of my favorites out of the Gladin Gorin line and the gentleman from whom most of the descendants of this line I know descend - Captain William Franklin Gorin. I have a glorious picture of him in his Civil War regalia holding his Civil War sword - and I've seen the sword - awesome. He was born in 1837 (per last post) in Rowletts, Hart Co KY - the next county over from where I live - a small community. After the war he and many of his family moved to Green Co KY where he and his wife Lizzie Jameson are buried in the Greensburg City Cemetery. I'm going back over there this spring and take some better pictures of the cemetery. Their children: Lizzie was born 22 June 1839, died 24 June 1924 in Green Co KY; the daughter of Preston and Alabama Jameson. They had: Elizabeth b 13 Sept 1863 in Hart Co; died 1934 in Greensburg; married Daniel Woodward. Mary Ellen b 9 Apr 1866 in Hart Co; d 24 Mar 1953 in Apache OK; md John Morgan Myers Emily Esther b 20 Jan 1868 in Hart Co; d 27 June 1953 in Green Co KY; md 1884 to Daniel Porter Turner. Ruth b 1870 KY, died abt Aug 1912; md Edward DeSpain Henry Franklin b 27 Dec 1872 Green Co KY, d 2 May 1950 same; md 14 Dec 1893 to Emma Dearen. Ada Norah b 20 mar 1875 Green Co; d 5 June 1956 in Mineola KS; md 27 Dec 1893 to James Joseph Tucker. Thomas Jefferson Sr b 28 Dec 1877 Green Co; d 18 Oct 1940 same; md 19 Aug 1902 in Louisville, Jefferson, KY to Lettie Mae Jones Why do I like Captain Gorin? He intrigues me because of his Civil War service and afterwards. First of all, per his family tradition, his daughter Elizabeth Gorin was born during the Battle of Munfordville. Added to that, the battle was raging right outside the house. As soon as Elizabeth was born, she and her mother were moved to another room in the house and sometime that afternoon, a cannon ball went through the bedroom wall right over the bed where she had been born! According the late Ray Gorin who helped me so much on this line, until the cabin was torn down, the patched hole was still visible. Also, Captain Gorin (Union all the way) carried a picture of his beloved Lizzie on a necklace or a brooch during battle.The tiny picture makes it appear that she was cross-eyed, though I'm sure it just looked that way. From portraits and photo, it appears that Capt Gorin was a very tall man and very distinguished looking. But, what intrigues me the most was when I sent for his military records from archives. Normally, when sending for a soldier's records from the Civil War, you're thankful to get 3-4 pages, most likely muster sheets. When, several weeks later, the mailman brought me the package from National Archives ... it was over 300 pages! All the papers were a result of Capt Gorin filing for pension benefits in the 1885-1912 time frame and his almost daily correspondence seeking a larger pension. Over the span of a few years, this dear man must have driven the government crazy, along with his many physicians, the county clerks, and everyone else. He developed a new disease almost daily! When he moved to Green Co, he started all over again. Each request had to be authorized by the county clerk, had to have testimony for those who knew him, be notarized, physician's statements attached; he had to spend a small fortune in his petitions for a greater payment, and it netted him very little. One can almost live day by day with him through the voluminous files. His main complaints were lung disease, chronic diarrhea, piles, kidney disease, rheumatism and heart disease caused by his battle. He served in the 670th D 33rd Regiment KY Volunteers Infantry and Captain of Co K, 26th Regiment. Claim after claim was rejected by the Government. He added diptheria, chronic fever - rejected in Sept 1885. Then came hepretic cholic - rejected. Each time he had to go back and list all his service dates, occupations (farmer and a miller). Then he gained an enlargement of the lower part of the back bone which prevented him from walking correctly and to appear before the required boards. Typhoid fever was claimed in Greensburg. He could not eat meat. Doctors showed him a "broken down" and prescribed different medications. A skin disease was blamed to his war service in 1882. Each additional claim was rejected. From 1187 through 1890, the claims continued. Pneumonia was added in 1886. In the end, the pension remain fairly well unchanged. He was approved for disease of the lungs, kidneys, chronic diarrhea and piles only. They ignored claims of malaria. It appears that his final pay was $30 a month. He was still appealing in 1912 before his death. After his death, Lizzie, his widow, appealed for a widow's pension. I truly feel sorry for Capt. Gorin's misery - he was a handsome man and likely did suffer greatly from the war. But I chuckle (sorry sir!) too when he, and many other soldiers who did the same, kept getting other illnesses and diseases that they thought would be covered under the pension act. He certainly kept everyone busy ... he was an excellent soldier from all indications and fought well for his country. Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin