Ancestry.com just released "U.S. Compiled Service Records, Post-Revolutionary War Volunteer Soldiers 1784-1811. Both Gladin and John are shown - just one card for each, both in 1793. Gladdin Gorin, Russell's Regiment, Cav'y, Kentucky Volunteers. Private. John Gorin, Same unit, Sergt. Major I haven't found Henry yet as the middle brother, but this ties Gladin (the youngest) and John (the oldest) together more and adds a little more military to them and has them here one year after statehood. Ancestry.com has also released MANY SAR papers. There are a lot on our Gorin clan there, but doggone it, they didn't put the print function on the page - nothing works, comes out just a blank page. It will take me a long time but eventually I'll go through every one of them because it gives a lot of information. I did read through the one for Henry Gorin that started the whole mess of him being the son of his own brother John and adding another ??? generation which didn't exist - and which is still confusing family members and being taken as Gospel proof on many family trees on the web. How they didn't catch the error I don't know; I don't think John, who was five years old married and had Henry!!! Always looking when I can - Sandi