I have just learned of the death of Vivian Hampton Gorin of Brighton IL. She was the widow of Harry E Gorin who died in 1980. He was the son of Frank Gorin Sr and Lillie Bell Lee Downs, grandson of George Washington Gorin and Frances Jane Sweeney, great-grandson of Gladin Gorin and Nancy Hinch. Vivian was very kind to me back in the 1970's when I was starting my Gorin quest. She died 26 May 2004 and will was buried in the Brighton IL cemetery. Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

Just a primary note - I have finished the book - gotta quit because I keep finding things and have to say "enough"! All I have to do is print off the index - the book is about 250 pages plus about 32 pages of index. If you have any interest, drop me a line privately please. I'll start printing it off likely Monday. I don't know if any of you can help me or not. I had some of this information before but had lost it over the yrs. I found it originally, along with the late Ray Gorin back in the 70's, and realized I had never found an answer. There are records on a couple of gedcoms on the internet on a Henry P Gorin, also spelled Goren, who was born ca 1846 (error) in Green Co KY. He married one Melissa B McCubbins, born ca 1846 (error) from Green Co. Some site a marriage record dated 1846 (you can see why the error!). There is no information on his family at all, but they have traced the McCubbins back to the 1500's. I have no idea of who this Henry P was but if I remember right, Melissa is buried in Green Co with a reference to her being a Gorin wife. All of John Gorin's children are accounted for. All of Henry Gorin's family is accounted for - both from family Bibles. Gladin's family is still partially a mystery as the family moved to TN very early (1812-1813 timeframe), and some of his children are totally unknown and I believe their names became spelled differently. Only one of Gladin's sons came back to KY - John Henry Gorin Sr who went back to Bowling Green in Warren Co. when Gladin and Henry's family lived early. His son, John Henry Gorin Jr also came to Glasgow KY where I live - lost a wife and children here - then back to Warren Co. The first Gorin I have in Green Co is Captain William Franklin Gorin and his family who moved to Green Co from Hart Co after the Civil War. All of the Green and Taylor Co Gorin's are descended from him. If any of you find any reference to this mysterious Henry P Gorin, please write me and bat around ideas with me! I can't find any marriage record, death record ... nothing! I'll be off-line most of today - it's eye check up time in about an hour and as you all know - that means dialated eyes. That along with heavy storm warnings and flood watches - I'll likely nap all day! Thanks to all of you who sent information for the Gorin Family In Pictures and Word! All my best - Sandi Colonel Sandi Gorin SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html SCKY surname registry sites: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyclinto/reg.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyclinto/forms/SCKYreg.html Gorin Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

I hit the send key too fast. What I meant to say in the last email is that I have the table of contents typedd as to what's in the book now. If you would like me to email you a copy of the contents, send me an email - I'll attach a copy. It's about 5 pages long. Sorry to intrude once more! Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

Just a note on a beautiful Saturday in Glasgow KY! I have finished the Gorin scrapbook and am indexing it now. BUT .... each section as I said, is open-ended. If you are planning on sending me anything, PLEASE let me know by Monday at the latest. I will hold for a few more days before printing the book off. Thanks to Bob Winn who scanned me some wonderful pictures this morning - it's so nice to put a picture with a name - makes our ancestors (and us!) come alive. I'm still working on those Gorham boys who came over that I reported earlier. If any of you are near a major library and can check to see if they have any of the books cited, it would be appreciated! Later - Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

After a few day's delay ... I am finishing up the scrapbook/photo album on the Gorin's. I have finished John and Henry's section and am about 1/2 way thru on Gladin's section. If you have any items you would like included, please notify me by email this week!!! I can still add to John and Henry's section if you can possibly scan the material and email it to me. And anything more on Gladin's family would be appreciated too. Please let me know as I'll start indexing as soon as I finish Gladin's section. Thanks! Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

I've had a hectic week (and it's not done yet!) but thanks to a kind subber to this list, I've been given access to some records that I'm hoping will give us more clues to when and how and who of the Gorin family came to America. I searched the records for all variant spellings of Gorin in a time frame of 1600-1660. According to Henry Gorin (the middle bro), the family came to America from Wales in the mid 1600's and "settled in the Carolinas." So I searched the few entries for ships landing at Charleston (or any coastal city in SC) ... nothing. So I expanded and just did a search for Gorin and variants coming during that timeframe. The following records popped up - 5 records for a John Gorham and 5 records for a Thomas Gorham who came to VA. I ignored the same names for now of those coming to the northern cities. Henry didn't say that they landed in the Carolinas but they settled there. Most of the Gorham/Goram etal families in the early records of the Fairfax Co VA area kept moving back and forth between the Carolinas and areas that were near or in Fairfax (many county changes over the years). Here is what I found - now I am trying to find the actual books to see if there is more information - don't know if I can located them or not! Name: John GORHAM Year: 1635 Age: 18 Place: Virginia Source Publication Code: 1219.4 Source Bibliography: COLDHAM, PETER WILSON. The Complete Book of Emigrants: A Comprehensive Listing Compiled from English Public Records of Those Who Took Ship to the Americas for Political, Religious, and Economic Reasons; of Those Who Were Deported for Vagrancy, Roguery, or Non-Conformity; and of Those Who Were Sold to Labour in the New Colonies. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co. 1607-1660. 1988. 600p. Page: 151 Standard work. Includes lists of ships to Bermuda, Barbados, and continental North America. Indexes family names. Names of Jews are excerpted in Adler, no. 61. Care should be taken when using Hotten. There are two versions, one with accurate text and index, the other with poor text and the better index which does not entirely match the text. Therefore it is essential that only the following editions be used: all 1874 printings; 1931, New York; 1935, New York; and the G.P.C. printings from 1974 on. G.P.C.'s earlier printings had the poor text and the better index. Source Bibliography: HOTTEN, JOHN CAMDEN, editor. The Original Lists of Persons of Quality; Emigrants; Religious Exiles; Political Rebels; Serving Men Sold for a Term of Years; Apprentices; Children Stolen; Maidens Pressed; and Others Who Went from Great Britain to the American Plantations, 1600-1700. With Their Ages, the Localities Where They Formerly Lived in the Mother Country, the Names of the Ships in Which They Embarked, and Other Interesting Particulars. From MSS. Preserved in the State Paper Department of Her Majesty's Public Record Office, England. London: Chatto and Windus, 1874, 604p. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1974. Repr. 1986. Page: 94 "PASSENGERS TO VIRGINIA IN 1635." In The Second Boat (Machais, ME), vol. 6:2 (August 1985), p. 62. Page: 62 From originals of the Master of Rolls, London. Articles in various numbers of the register. The late appearance of the final list was because it had been lost. Also in no. 9151, Tepper, Passengers to America, pp. 80-127. SOMERBY, HORATIO G. "Passengers for Virginia, 1635." In The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, vol. 2:1 (Jan. 1848), pp. 111-113; vol. 2:2 (Apr. 1848), pp. 211-212; vol. 2:3 (July 1848), p. 268; vol. 2:4 (Oct. 1848), pp. 374-375; vol. 3:2 (Apr. 1849), p. 184; vol. 3:3 (July 1849), pp. 388-390; vol. 4:1 (Jan. 1850), p. 61; vol. 4:2 (Apr. 1850), pp. 189-191; vol. 4:3 (July 1850), pp. 261-264; vol. 5:1 (Jan. 1851), pp. 61-62; vol. 5:3 (July 1851), pp. 343-344; vol. 15:2 (Apr. 1861), pp. 142-146. Page: 184 Contains 35 articles excerpted from The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 1847-1961. About 17,000 names. Similar lists in Boyer, nos. 0702, 0714, 0717, 0720. Source Bibliography: TEPPER, MICHAEL, editor. Passengers to America: A Consolidation of Ship Passenger Lists from "The New England Historical and Genealogical Register." Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1977. 554p. Reprinted with new introduction and indexes, 1978. Repr. 1980. Page: 88 Thomas Gorham Year: 1635 Age: 19 Place: Virginia Source Publication Code: 1219.4 Primary Immigrant: Gorham, Thomas Source Bibliography: COLDHAM, PETER WILSON. The Complete Book of Emigrants: A Comprehensive Listing Compiled from English Public Records of Those Who Took Ship to the Americas for Political, Religious, and Economic Reasons; of Those Who Were Deported for Vagrancy, Roguery, or Non-Conformity; and of Those Who Were Sold to Labour in the New Colonies. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co. 1607-1660. 1988. 600p. Page: 150 Thomas Gorham has the same other sources as shown for John Gorham, basically the same page or next page - same ship. Interesting ... and thoughts? Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

Thanks for all the input on my post of the other day. I am working on the scrapbook/photo album, etc for the 3 Gorin boys now. I have finished what I have on John Gorin and am currently working on Henry. Next Gladin. If you have any pictures, obits or anything of interest - marriage announcements, school records - anything and would like them to be included - please let me know. You can scan copies if you like and send to me via email. Appreciate your kindness so much! Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

I know it's been forever since I've posted to this list - I've decided that at my age, there's still too many things to do and not enough get up and go to get it all done! With my dau Kris just finishing up her first semester at Campbellsville University I think I've been driving to Campbellsville KY more than anything else. She loves school there and if all goes well, will be remaining in town there for the summer. I had a thought and I don't know if you would be interested or not. Since I abruptly stopped posting my new findings - papers have been stacking up on me. I am constantly finding more Gorin and related family information as I work at my "day job" of researching and book publishing for south Central KY. I have likely 500 pieces of paper - the majority being photographs, newspaper articles, historical citations and assorted items. These would cover all three Gorin lines thanks to being able to have access to a lot of actual newspapers. I'm thinking about putting together a scrap book of photos and articles with a brief blurb as to who they are and how they fit in the family tree. These would be condensed down to a lot less than 500 pages! Also, I'm in contact almost weekly with individuals who fit in the family tree and found my records on line who contribute new information and corrections. So - my idea is to make this a photo album of Gorin family members and citations. I have a lot of old pictures which appeared in other editions of my Gorin chronicle books which most of you have not seen if you don't have that book or are from that line. I would appreciate any feedback - privately or to the list as to what you think. I hate to just keep all this to myself when the rest of you might want to see it too. If you want to post to the list just send the email to: GORIN-L@rootsweb.com What do you think? Hope you are all well! Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

Martha Bernhardt of the list just wrote me of the death of a special man and although I don't have all the details yet, wanted to let you know. Wilbur "Bill" Breaux died Sunday, 18 Apr 2004, of pancreatic cancer. His wife, Betty was the sister of the late Ray Gorin who helped me so much with my Gorin quest so many yrs ago - and who was sort of responsible for our moving to KY after visiting this area back in 1972. I was honored to finally meet Bill and Betty but under the sad circumstances of Ray's death when Ray had wanted to be buried here in Glasgow. We have stayed in contact and my condolences to the family. Betty Gorin Breaux is the daughter of Joseph Bailey Gorin and Irene Coley; granddaughter of James Henry Gorin and Nancy Elizabeth Marcum; g-granddaughter of James J Gorin and Lucy Ann Mansfield, gg-grandaughter of John Henry Gorin and Elizabeth Jones; ggg-granddaughter of Gladin Gorin and Nancy Hinch. I will post a full obituary at a later date. Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

Hello, Does anyone have knowledge of Gorin births, marriages and deaths in Scotland after 1920 ? If so I would be pleased to hear from you. There are very few researchers of Gorins in the UK. I have alot of information about the Gorins of GLOUCESTER if anyone is interested. Regards Roger Townsend, Plymouth, England.

I've been hiding out about a week - had a BIG car problem and lots of meetings. Will be back soon. For those of you connecting to James Wilson Lucy Gorin, go to the following URL - it has an image of his WW I draft card. Sandi

Friday, February 27, 2004 - courtesy Greensburg Record Herald: Kathleen Gorin, 95, of LaRue County, Ky., died on Monday, Feb. 23, 2004, at the Meadowview Health and Rehabilitation Center in Louisville, Ky. Daughter of the late Henry Franklin Gorin and Emma Dearin Gorin, she was born on Sunday, Nov. 8, 1908, in LaRue County. She was a member of Harvey Browne Memorial Presbyterian Church. Gorin attended Centre College in Danville and graduated from the University of Louisville and attended the Graduate School of Social Work at Florida State University. She worked in Central and Eastern Kentucky in the field of social work for several years, before joining the American Red Cross during World War II. She served as Red Cross director of the military hospitals in South Eastern United States and in Europe. She retired after 30 years from the Metropolitan Atlanta, Ga. chapter in service to military families. Survivors include three nephews, Walt Gorin of Greensburg, Ky., Samuel Hodges of Louisville and William Gorin of New Albany, Ind.; three nieces, Martha Holder and Ruth Hodges, both of Louisville, and Dee Bland of Houston, Texas; and two sisters-in-law, Roxie Gorin of Campbellsville and Eleanor Gorin Skaff of Greensburg. She was also preceded in death by eight brothers and sisters. Graveside service was at 10 a.m. on Wednesday, Feb. 25 at the Greensburg Cemetery with burial to follow. The Rev. Charlie Taylor officiated. Cowherd and Parrott Funeral Home in Greensburg was in charge of arrangements. ** I never met Kathleen but know almost all of the survivors.

I didn't get to post yesterday as the night before I almost lost our preciious 13 yr old Persian cat named Mischief. She's still with me but very weak - I didn't get much rest. One of my favorite ancestors in the Henry and Sarah Pell Gorin line is again a direct ancestor of my daughters - John Darns Gorin. It took me about 20 years to find out what his middle initial stood for and then later, that the name Darns looks like it came from a Darns family in Fairfax Co VA who lived near the Gorham/Goram etal family. John D and his wife Martha Thomas (b 30 May 1788 supposedly in the Carolinas); died 13 July 1876, buried Greenwood Cemetery in Decatur, Macon, IL - no parentage yet found). They had: 1 Dr Bartley William Gorin - to be covered later 2 Mariah b 10 Aug 1810 Christian Co KY; d 1880-1900 Vandalia, Fayette IL; md 3 Mar 1829 Thomas Coke Kirkman 3 Henry Madison Sr, b 14 Oct 1812 Christian Co KY; d 2 Apr 1889 Memphis, Scotland MO; md 24 Apr 1835 in Decatur Mary Ann Love 4 Elvira E b 17 Aug 1814 Todd Co KY, d 7 Aug 1891 Decatur, md 2 Aug 1831 in Vandalia, Fayette IL 5 Jerome Rinaldo b 12 Oct 1817 Hopkinsville, Christian KY, d 7 Sept 1897 Decatur, md 1 Apr 1845 Decatur to Eleanor Elizabeth Douglas Fawcett 6 Gladden b 20 Aug 1820 Todd Co KY, md 19 Oct 1841 St Louis MO to Mary Catherine Weber 7 Mary Jane b 15 July 1823 Christian Co KY, d 3 Mar 1894 Winchester IL, md 28 June 1838 Vandalia IL Dr Ephraim J Rice 8 John Darns Jr b 25 Nov 1825 Vandalia, d 27 Apr 1878 Pioche, Lincoln, NV, md 20 Mar 1847 Memphis, Scotland MO to Emily Hudnall. I have amassed tons of information (give or take a few pounds) on John D. He is written up in the History of Macon Co IL about he and his family coming to Kentucky as a boy over Daniel Boone's trail. This shows he was born while the family was still in Fairfax Co VA. He is referenced in the "Henry Gorin Bible, presented to his mother" by himself - the copy of which I have. In the History of Scotland Co MO it notes that he moved to Vandalia IL in 1828, and previous to that time he was a farmer and the sheriff of Todd Co KY (where his father had also been sheriff). John D is shown as a private in captain Benjamin H Reeve's Co of Inf., 6th Regt KY Detached Militia, Bourbour's command, War of 1812. John D's family had then moved into Todd Co (or had county come to them). His name appears on many deeds in Christian Co KY and Todd Co. Then John D and Martha, with their children moved to IL.The Illinois State Historical Society, Vol 48, No 2, Summer 1955 edition carries an article on John D in Vandalia - at this time Vandalia was the capitol of IL. He is also written up in Fayette Facts, Vol III, Issue 1, June 20 1928 where in Jan 1830 he was named as a school trustee. The History of Fayette County by Newton Bateman, VCol II, 1910 shows him as an "early settler". He was shown as a member of the First Presbyterian Church there, was on the Village Board of Trustees in 1830, was a Probate Judge in 1828. There are many deeds during this time frame. He purchased much acreage from the Public Domain Sales of IL. He was also a member of the Illnois House of Representatives. Back in the early 70's, I paid a visit to the old courthouse there where they had set aside an area representing the original House when John D was there. I saw his chair, his name was carved in the back of the seat. When I went back in 1991 I hunted all over - the display was still there but was told that the chairs had been removed and replaced with replicas and no one knows where the original furniture is. Wish I'd gotten a picture!!! After John D's death, Martha applied for bounty land based on her husband's service.. She was then living with her son Henry Madison Gorin in Memphis (Scotland Co) Mo. She declared his military service, their marriage (had lost the license). She had also lost his discharge; appointed her son, Jerome Rinaldo Gorin as her lawful agent. She spelled her name as Goren - which the Decatur IL family did at that time. Governor Richard J Oglesby also helped her with this claim. She gave them a hand written copy of the births, deaths and marriages in the family Bible (the one I have!!!!!, that is exciting!). She was later approved for a pension of $8.00 a month. When John D died, they were living in Vandalia IL and it appears that he was either buried in Vandalia and the body later moved, or possibly was buried in Decatur originally. He was only about 56 years old and Martha (Mattie) was 58. Mattie lived back and forth with her sons until her death in 1876. She is buried beside John Darns. Next week - a look at Dr Bartley William Gorin to be followed by Jerome Rinaldo and his son Orville Browning Gorin and lastly with Henry Madison Gorin and Rev. Marcellus Gladden Gorin. Have a great weekend! Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

It's been a long, sleepy, sluggish day and just remembered good old Henry. On the 23rd of Aug 1784 Henry Goran (also shown GORAM) was given a military warrant #3408 for his service as an officer and soldier of the Commonweath of VA. He was awarded 200 aces of land. The earliest deed in KY was one in Warren Co in 1796 (before there was a Warren Co), where he was locted at the head of Salk Lick Creek on the west side of the bank. (He is on the tax rolls of other counties earlier). The land is always more fertile along the river banks and when VA paid its soldiers in land, they always got the first pick of the 1st rate land. Gladin Gorin lived nearby. Henry was shown in a list of Commissioned Officers 1799-1804 of Warren Co regiments - he was a Cornet in the Light Horse Company, 25th Regt on 14 May 1798. This is almost to the day when his brother, John Gorin, arrived in Barren Co, just a few miles away. He also was in the Corn Stalk Militia in 1803. His name is spelled Gorrin in the Light Horse Company. Henry appears in various court documents in Warren Co - Apr 1799, 1 Apr 1800 (involving his bro Gladin), 11 Oct 1800,18 June 1800 (deed for land, 3 Dec 1800. He was shown as a Deputy Sheriff in Warren Co in April 1803 and again in Oct 1805. By 1809, Henry was getting ready to move to Christian Co -to the west of Warren Co. He was still serving as Deputy Sheriff. In Warren Co Deed Book E5, p. 149-50, dated 7 June 1810 Henry sold some of his land to his brother Gladin. I have, in my books on Henry, his signature and drawings of his land. Henry didn't really move next, Todd Co moved to him and his land fell in that jurisdiction. In 1820 he is listed as a Justice of the Peace there and he is written up in the History of Todd Co Kentucky He was mentioned as one of the first Magistrates there in 1820. In 1825, he became Sheriff of Todd Co, appointed by the Governor. Henry also became guardian for James Lawrence Terry and B Terry (sons of his daughter Catherine who had lost her husband down in MS - remember that story?). Henry was a large land owner over the years, by 1802 he had 2300 acres in Warren, Green and Hardin Co KY; to this was added 10,500 acres in Warren Co. As a Justice of the Peace in both Warren and Christian Co, he performed a large number of marriages. He also had been granted land in the State of OH based on his Rev. War service. When Henry died, bless his heart, he left a will - the only one of the three brothers who did. He devised to Genmiah {Jemima} Moss his dau 50 acres. To Sanford Pell (son) $300. To Sally, his beloved wife all the rest. There is a site on the web from some fellow who submitted all of Henry's genealogical records (and most of the rest of the Gorins) to the Mormon Church and he shows Henry and Sarah as being divorced. I have written him and asked him to change his records but he refuses to acknowledge my emails or make the changes. You can't trust everything on the web! A deed drawn in 1833 gives a wealth of information in a case of John C Atcheson against the children and heirs of Henry Gorin, decd. Those heirs included: John D Gorin, Sanford P Gorin, John Hinch, Gladdin Hinch & other unknown heirs of Amy Hinch, James Martin, Elizabeth Martin, George and Nancy Pollock, William Moss, Polly Moss, Jemimah Cockerill, James and Catherine Terry, John and Lucinda Harrison, Newton Cockerill and Evelina. Then years after Henry's death, Sally (Sarah) died 25 Jan 1840. Her estate was settled and the following bought from it: Jemima Moss, John Clark, James P Martin, Gladden G Hinch, Edmund Rice and many friends and neighbors. As noted before, the graves of Henry and Sarah are the only ones we cannot find. Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

I'll jump this morning over to the middle brother of three, Henry Gorin. I've spent the most time (I think) on Henry since this is "our" line. You can check out the other descendants of Gladin Gorin on my Gorin website and if you have any questions about him, please post to this list. Henry Gorin was born 26 April 1768 in Fairfax Co VA. This is verified from two sources - his family Bible (which I have) and an old cow bell which is here in town. I think I've told you the story of the cowbell before. He married 10 Feb 1788 in Fairfax Co to Sarah Pell. She was born 3 Feb 1771 in Fairfax, died 25 Jan 1840 in Todd Co KY. Henry died 14 June 1830 in Todd Co and their family cemetery is the only one we can't find - it was on his farm and assumedly has been plowed over, many have looked for it. Henry and his beloved Sally as he called her had a hard start to marriage, as I have indicated previously - her parents were not supportive of their marriage, and they were married in the woods in the presence of friends and minister; she made her own wedding dress. As was common in the earlier days, they raised a large family consisting of: 1 - Amy b 11 Dec 1788 in Fairfax; d 21 Sept 1815 at Spring Creek in Todd Co, md 25 Feb 1803 to John Hinch Jr. 2 - John Darns Gorin b 26 Apr 1790 in Fairfax, d 26 Apr 1846 in Vandalia, Fayette IL (buried Decatur, Macon, IL), md 25 Feb 1808 to Martha Thomas. 3 - Elizabeth Gorin b 23 Aug 1791 Fairfax, md 10 Jan 1803 James McGowan in Christian Co KY (has another marriage). 4 - Nancy b 8 Jan 1793 likely in Fayette Co KY, died Elkton, Todd, KY, md. 27 Sept 1810 in Christian Co KY to George Pollock. 5 - Gladden, b 26 Aug 1794 likely Fayette Co, died single 13 Oct 1813 during the War of 1812 in Upper Sandusky OH 6 - Polly b 25 Feb 1796 likely Fayette, md Mar 1809 in Christian Co KY to William Babb (has another marriage) 7 - Catherine b 15 Dec 1797 either Fayette or Warren CoKY, died 29 June 1842 in Barren Co KY (Gridervile), md 21 Feb 1815 in Christian Co KY to James Lawrence Terry. (we've discussed before). 8 - Jemima(h), born 8 Sept 1799 Warren Co KY, md 10 Apr 1799 Thomas Moss 9 - Martha b 26 Mar 1801 - died 14 June 1801 10 - Sanford Pell b 26 July 1805 Warren Co, d Washington, Tazewell, IL, md 7 Sept 1826 in Todd Co to Martha/Jane Ann Gaunt/Gant. 11 - Lucinda b 20 Oct 1807 Warren Co; d 12 Oct 1878 Todd Co KY; md 17 Sept 1872 in Todd Co to John Harrison 12 - Arelina/Averlina b 21 oct 1809 Warren Co; md 5 May 1831 same to Netwon Cockrill (has another marriage). Tomorrow - a tour thru time with Henry. Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

Bob - thanks for the post to the list! Today, one of my favorites out of the Gladin Gorin line and the gentleman from whom most of the descendants of this line I know descend - Captain William Franklin Gorin. I have a glorious picture of him in his Civil War regalia holding his Civil War sword - and I've seen the sword - awesome. He was born in 1837 (per last post) in Rowletts, Hart Co KY - the next county over from where I live - a small community. After the war he and many of his family moved to Green Co KY where he and his wife Lizzie Jameson are buried in the Greensburg City Cemetery. I'm going back over there this spring and take some better pictures of the cemetery. Their children: Lizzie was born 22 June 1839, died 24 June 1924 in Green Co KY; the daughter of Preston and Alabama Jameson. They had: Elizabeth b 13 Sept 1863 in Hart Co; died 1934 in Greensburg; married Daniel Woodward. Mary Ellen b 9 Apr 1866 in Hart Co; d 24 Mar 1953 in Apache OK; md John Morgan Myers Emily Esther b 20 Jan 1868 in Hart Co; d 27 June 1953 in Green Co KY; md 1884 to Daniel Porter Turner. Ruth b 1870 KY, died abt Aug 1912; md Edward DeSpain Henry Franklin b 27 Dec 1872 Green Co KY, d 2 May 1950 same; md 14 Dec 1893 to Emma Dearen. Ada Norah b 20 mar 1875 Green Co; d 5 June 1956 in Mineola KS; md 27 Dec 1893 to James Joseph Tucker. Thomas Jefferson Sr b 28 Dec 1877 Green Co; d 18 Oct 1940 same; md 19 Aug 1902 in Louisville, Jefferson, KY to Lettie Mae Jones Why do I like Captain Gorin? He intrigues me because of his Civil War service and afterwards. First of all, per his family tradition, his daughter Elizabeth Gorin was born during the Battle of Munfordville. Added to that, the battle was raging right outside the house. As soon as Elizabeth was born, she and her mother were moved to another room in the house and sometime that afternoon, a cannon ball went through the bedroom wall right over the bed where she had been born! According the late Ray Gorin who helped me so much on this line, until the cabin was torn down, the patched hole was still visible. Also, Captain Gorin (Union all the way) carried a picture of his beloved Lizzie on a necklace or a brooch during battle.The tiny picture makes it appear that she was cross-eyed, though I'm sure it just looked that way. From portraits and photo, it appears that Capt Gorin was a very tall man and very distinguished looking. But, what intrigues me the most was when I sent for his military records from archives. Normally, when sending for a soldier's records from the Civil War, you're thankful to get 3-4 pages, most likely muster sheets. When, several weeks later, the mailman brought me the package from National Archives ... it was over 300 pages! All the papers were a result of Capt Gorin filing for pension benefits in the 1885-1912 time frame and his almost daily correspondence seeking a larger pension. Over the span of a few years, this dear man must have driven the government crazy, along with his many physicians, the county clerks, and everyone else. He developed a new disease almost daily! When he moved to Green Co, he started all over again. Each request had to be authorized by the county clerk, had to have testimony for those who knew him, be notarized, physician's statements attached; he had to spend a small fortune in his petitions for a greater payment, and it netted him very little. One can almost live day by day with him through the voluminous files. His main complaints were lung disease, chronic diarrhea, piles, kidney disease, rheumatism and heart disease caused by his battle. He served in the 670th D 33rd Regiment KY Volunteers Infantry and Captain of Co K, 26th Regiment. Claim after claim was rejected by the Government. He added diptheria, chronic fever - rejected in Sept 1885. Then came hepretic cholic - rejected. Each time he had to go back and list all his service dates, occupations (farmer and a miller). Then he gained an enlargement of the lower part of the back bone which prevented him from walking correctly and to appear before the required boards. Typhoid fever was claimed in Greensburg. He could not eat meat. Doctors showed him a "broken down" and prescribed different medications. A skin disease was blamed to his war service in 1882. Each additional claim was rejected. From 1187 through 1890, the claims continued. Pneumonia was added in 1886. In the end, the pension remain fairly well unchanged. He was approved for disease of the lungs, kidneys, chronic diarrhea and piles only. They ignored claims of malaria. It appears that his final pay was $30 a month. He was still appealing in 1912 before his death. After his death, Lizzie, his widow, appealed for a widow's pension. I truly feel sorry for Capt. Gorin's misery - he was a handsome man and likely did suffer greatly from the war. But I chuckle (sorry sir!) too when he, and many other soldiers who did the same, kept getting other illnesses and diseases that they thought would be covered under the pension act. He certainly kept everyone busy ... he was an excellent soldier from all indications and fought well for his country. Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

Seeing Sandi's last Gorin biographical sketch reminded me of something. Sarah Jones Gorin, daughter of Major James J. Gorin, and my great-grandfather, James Festus Winn, managed the same hotel in Port Arthur, Texas during the early 1900s. Winn's wife, Ella James Gorin, was Sarah's first cousin. Bob

Major James J. Gorin was the son of John Henry and Elizabeth Jones Gorin, grandson of Gladin and Nancy Hinch Gorin. He was born 6 May 1812 in Warren Co KY; married 26 Aug 1833 in Edmonson Co KY. He married first Emily J Buster who died before 1836, daughter of Benjamin and Lucy Kerr Buster. They had no recorded childen. He married secondly to Lucy Ann Mansfield on 26 Dec 1836 in Warren Co KY. She was born 17 March 1818 in Albermarle Co VA; died abt 1882 in Hart Co KY, daughter of William and Grace Noel Mansfield. They had the following children: 1 Captain William Franklin Gorin who md Mary Elizabeth "Lizzie" Jameson - more later on him. Born 15 Nov 1837 Rowletts, Hart KY, died 25 May 1912 same; md 20 Sept1860 in Hart Co. 2 - Elizabeth Gorin - no data 3 -Mariah Gorin born in Hart Co KY, born 19 Dec 1844 Hart Co KY; md Archie Perry 4 - Martha Frances Gorin b 23 Nov 1846 Rowletts 5 - Samuel Thomas Gorin b Feb 1849 Hart Co; died 1922, md Nancy Lively 6 - John G Gorin b 13 Apr 1852 Rowletts KY, died 16 June 1879, IL, md 14 Oct 1873 Greensburg, Green KY to Judith D. Cann. Need information desperately on where he died! 7 - James Henry Gorin b 17 Aug 1854 Rowletts, died 27 Aug 1912 Sulphur Well, Metcalfe, KY; md 1 Jan 1878 Sumner Co TN to Nancy Elizabeth Marcum 8 - Ellen D Gorin b 22 Apr 1856 Rowletts, d 14 Aug 1912 same - single 9 - Lucy Ann Gorin b 17 Jan 1858 Rowletts, d 12 Dec 1910 Port Arthur, Jefferson TX - single 10 - George Washington Gorin b 22 Nov 1859 Rowletts, d 29 Mar 1939 Girard, Macoupin, IL; md 25 Nov 1885 Rebecca Caroline Gardner 11 - Sarah Jones Gorin b 21 Oct 1861 Rowletts; died 11 June 1934 Port Arthur TX; md William Price Inman Biographical. From all indications Major was a nickname, no military service has been found. He was a miller. There was a Henry Gorin in Hart Co in the 1880's listed with James who might have been a son from his previous marriage - no confirmation. Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

Today, a little look at some of Gladin and Nancy Hinch Gorin's children. Many of his children I have no information on. Frances (Franky) Gorin and her husband moved sometime to Polk Co MO. She was not mentioned as buying any of her father's estate at his death in 1832. Her husband's name is shown with many spellings including John Tolivar Hughlett, just Tolivar Hughlett and Hewlett. They sold their portion of her father's estate in Sept of 1858. I have more info that I've added over the years. Susan Gorin, 2nd child, married LeRoy Hughlett but I haven't found a marriage certificate.. They sold in 1842 to James and Josiah Clark land in Stewart Co TN. Sarah Gorin married Isaac Creek - a very large and often times confusing family. He was born abt 1780 in Pittsylvania VA; married Sarah 18 Mar 1805 in Warren Co KY and died in Clay Co IL. He was the son of Killian Creek of Warren Co KY. Killian was a miller and the only standing mill in Barren Co (it was in Warren Co before boundary changes) is on my best friend's property. It was built in 1797. The Creeks moved to Clay Co IL, Clay Co MO and to IN. John Henry Gorin, son of Gladin, marrried Elizabeth Jones. She was born in 1796; died between 1830-1839 and is buried, with her husband at the John Jones Cemeery in Bowling Green KY. They had: Major James J Gorin who married Emily J Buster; Gladin Gorin who married Celesie Faveron; John Henry Gorin Jr who md 1st Melvina Austin; WIlliam Gorin; Thompson B Gorin who married Emily Runner; Allen or Marion Gorin; Elizabeth Gorin who married Alexander McElwain and Louisa Gorin. John Henry Gorin was found on the 1820 Warren Co census, the 1830 census. He owned property in Stewart Co TN in 1837 and 1838. He is still in Warren Co in 1840 and 1850. He was a farmer per this census. In 1857 he urchased land in Stewart Co TN. Nancy Gorin maried Robert Ormsby who was born abt 1780 in New Hanover, NC. The first generation of their children were all born in Stewart Co TN. Gladin Gorin Jr married Jane B Wormley - one one of their children are yet known - an Elizabeth. In 1840 he was in Henderson Co TN; in 1843 a newspaper ad shows him as an authorized agent for selling Sappington Anti-Fever pills. Henry Hugh Gorin and Almira Atkins settled in Coffeeville, Yalobusha, MS. They had Gladin A, Marion C, James P and Georgia Ann Gorin. I am still seeking more information on this family. Henry was a county clerk in Stewart Co TN for several years; his wife's family was from Trigg Co KY. There was some difficulty in 1843 when Dr Henry Hugh was expelled from the Masonic lodge in Dickson Co TN - which I will not show the details of here. George Washington Gorin and his wife Frances Jane Sweeney married in Tipton Co TN and the first two of their children - James Gladin and John Gladin were born in TN - they might have been twins or the same individual? The rest of the childreen: George G, Addie S and Annie W were all born in southern IL. This was a stormy marriage and his wife sued her own parents over a slave. They were eventually divorced and she maried a James Payne in 1850. It is also possible that later on they remarried - a very confusing situation. Monday - a few day's highlights of some of the best known of this family and then on to John Gorin. Have a great weekend! Sandi

I thought it might be a help to the listers here to know a little more about the Gorin family who are not connected to your direct line. Those of you descended from John and Henry have no knowledge of your kin descended from Gladin, etc. So, for a while, I'm going to try to introduce you to more of your family - and I'm starting with the youngest of the three confirmed sons - Gladin Gorin Sr. Gladin was born Nov 1771 in Fairfax Co VA. He married 23 Nov 1797 in Nelson Co KY to Nancy Hinch. Nancy was the daughter of Captain John Hinch who fought at the Battle of Blue Licks; born 25 May 1774, died 17 Sept 1832 Erin, Stewart (now Humphrey) Co TN. Gladin died 30 Jan 1832 at the same location - their cemetery is on the former Ben Hagler farm in Erin - I saw it and copied it in 1972. They had the following children: 1 - Frances 'Franky" who md 29 Aug 1810 to John Tolliver Hewlett (of many spellings) 2 - Susan who md LeRoy Hewlett - bro of above 3 - Samuel - no information to date 4 - Sarah - born between 1789-1790 likely Fayette Co KY; married 18 Mar 1805 in Warren Co KY to Isaac Creek. 5. John Henry Gorin b 16 May 1791 in Fayette Co KY; died 27 Aug 1864 in Warren Co KY; md 15 Nov 1810 same to Elizabeth Jones. 6 - Nancy b ca 1800 Warren Co KY; md 1817-19 in Stewart Co TN to Robert Ormsby 7 - Gladin Gorin Jr b between 1810-1810 Warren Co KY; md 12 Dec 1834 Madison Co TN to Jane B Wormley 8 - Elizabeth Gorin b abt 1802 - she was either an Eliza or another dau named Eliza (found her grave) as a young child 9 - Elizabeth Gorin - more later 10 - Thompson B Gorin b abt 1803 Warren Co KY; md an Eliza 11 - Henry Hugh Gorin MD b abt 1812 Stewart Co TN; died Coffeeville, Yalobsha, MIS; md 1838-1848 in Stewart Co to Almira Atkins 12 - George Washington Gorin b abt 1812 Stewart Co TN; md 19 Apr 1842 in Tipton Co TN to Frances Jane Sweeney. Note - I have 3 volumes of information on this family; I am working from my oldest and likely have found more information on these. The 2nd Elizabeth Gorin married James Clarke and I am now just sorting out information on her. This is just a sketch. Biographical: It appears that Gladin came to KY at the same time as his older brothers, John and Henry. He followed right behind Henry until 1812 so Henry might have been an unofficial guardian for some time. The first confirming record after his birth comes at his marriage to Nancy Hinch who was a mere 13 years old! Captain John and his wife Hannah DeWitt had a son, John Jr. who married one of Henry Gorin's daughters - making tracing the Hinch line great fun. Gladin is found in the Kentucky Genealogist, July-Sept 1959, Vol 1, page 95, in an article on Nelson Co KY. He was shown as Gladdin Goran there 8 Jan 1793. His military service comes from rolls dated 30 Sept 1793 to show that he served at age 22 until 19 Nov 1793 - a 45 day enrollment with a daily pay of $1.00. He is shown as a Private on the Muster Rolls of a company of mounted volunteers from KY under the command of Capt. Wm. Lewis, commanded by Major Gen. Charles Scott in Russell's Regiment, KY Volunteers. He mustered present 10 Nov of that year at Fort Washington. The KY State Historical Society Register #29, 1931 shows that the 2nd Regiment (Nelson Co) issued commissions to the 2nd regiment including Gladin Gorin - Captain. He is also shown in the Corn Stalk Militia as Captain, Commissioned 1 Nov 1797; assigned to the 25th Regt, 2nd Brig, 1st Div. He was laid off in Warren Co 23 Feb 1797. Gladin's brother Henry also served in the same unit. In 1798, Gladin and his brother Henry are settled into Warren Co and Gladin is invovled as a witness for a case against Samuel Sugg. He was awarded 200 acres in Warren Co 29 Aug 1799. Gladin is shown in the Second Census of KY as being a resident of Warren Co for the years 1800-1801.While living in Warren Co, Gladin served as Justice of the Peace and performed a bundle of marriages including Amy Gorin (Henry's dau) to John Hinch Jr (his bro-in-law). Gladin can be tracked by deeds in Warren Co dated 4 March 1800, 18 June 1800, 2 March 1803, 7 Mar 1803 and beyond. One involved buying land from Henry., estate settlement re the Hinches, power of attorneys, etc. He was shown as Major of the First Brigade, 61st Regiment on 13 Dec 1804. The deeds continued into the 1810's during which time Gladin was Sheriff of Warren Co (taking over the position from his older brother Henry) and they seemed to have lived next door to each other. Henry now moves into Christian Co KY and it is not long before Gladin sells out and moves there also with all his children. Older brother John is in Barren Co KY. In 1812, Gladin makes a break and moves on to Erin TN which at that time as in Stewart Co. He is shown on deed there 30 Oct 1812 with his name spelled Gladdin Goren, buying 230 acres of land. Historical citatins include one in the History of Stewart Co TN, p27 where Gladin Gorin, in 1815, opened an ordinary at his house on Well's Creek (a tavern which included sleeping rooms for travelers, stables for horses, etc). He appears on the 1820 census of Stewart Co with a large amount of unknown individuals in his household. Gladin had become a miller and it is assumed that these were people who worked for him. He continued to expand his acreage up until 1828. He was appointed guardian of three Jackson children and appeared on the 1830 census. When I was in Erin TN with another Gorin family, we visited the gravesites of Gladin's family - it was on an extremely tall hill - and there was still evidence down below of where his mill operations had been. Gladin died at age 60. An extant obituary is available in which he was called Colonel, a highly respectable citizen of the county. An inventory of his estate shows that he owned: 5 Negroes: 1 man named Tom, one woman named Millia and three children; Dicky, Edy and Mary. He had 5 head of horses, 21 head of cattle, 36 head of hogs, one wagon, 1 yoke of oxen, 1 ordinary carryall, 3 tin tubs, 7 feather beds and furniture, 1 clock with case, 1 ordinary sideboard, 14 chairs, 1 candlestand, 1 folding lap table, 1 plain table, 2 ordinary trunks, 1 flax wheel, 2 spinning wheels, 1 set of chinaware, 1 setup and saucer, 2 dishes and 1 dozen plates, 1 glass pitcher, 1 luster jug, 1/2 dozen tumblers, 1 set of coasters, 1 ordinary looking glass, 1 chest, 2 pair fire dogs, 1 shovel and tongs, 1 pair steel axes, 2 side irons, 1 lady's saddle, 2 reazors, 1 box, bursh and strop, 1 wash bowl, 2 ovens, 1 stewpot, 1 ten-gallon kittle, 1 seven gallon kittle, 1 stew kittle, 1 spice mortor and pestle, 1 baker, 2 coffee potts, 1 coffee mill, 1 hair sifter, 2 pot racks, 5 pair pott hooks, 1 strainer, 1 ten-gallon pot, 1 pair sheep shears, 6 bowls, 2 saltsellers, 1 pepper box, 1 set cup plates, 1 set candle molds, 1 stewing skillet, 1 set Britinia tablespoons, 1 set tea spoons, 3 log chains, 2 Walker's Dictionaries, 1 family Bible, 1 History of England, 1 life of Marion, 1 life of Wshington, 1 hymn book, 1 chase, 1 harrow, 1 broad ax, 1 harrow teeth set, 2 sythes and cradles, 1 pair plow gears, 1 pair harness, 1 handsaw, 1 cross-cut saw, 1 adze, 2 rings & stapes for ox yoke, 1 shovel scooter and bareshear plow, 1 large cowbell, 1 small cowbell, 3 clevises, 2 iron wedges, 1 drawing knife, 1 stretcher chair, 1 coulter, 2 scooter plows, 1 wheel barrow, whell, 1 gurbbing hoe, 1 small grindstone, 3 weeding hoes, 200 gallons of cider, 1 cutting knife, bow and knife, one whip and a few others. His estate sale raised $1117.15 - considerable at that time. An additional sale listed all the people who owed him and whom he owed. Nancy, his wife died and she left a will leaving Gladin's estate to Gladdin Gorin Jr. Sandi