Generation 11: Thomas TREFUSES was the father of John; born abt 1529 England; died 14 April 1552 same. Married Isabel ARUNDEL. She born Dewvon; died before 1638. Generation 12: John TREFUSES was the father of Thomas; born Talverna, Devon, England; died same; married to ALice PENPONS. John ARUNDEL, father of Isable, born before 1428 Devon; md Matilda COURTENAY. She was born in Bosconnoe, Devon, England. Generation 13: Sir Thomas deARUNDEL was the father of John, born abt 1394 Trerise, Cornwall; died 24 June 1443 Lonhadron, Cornwall. Married Marjorie ARCHDEACHON in 1417 in Shepestall, Cornwall. Marjorie ARCHDEACON was born 1398. Sir Hugh de Courtenay VI of Bonconnock, father of Matilda, born Bonconnock, Devonshire, England; died 1471 in the Battles of Twekesberry. Married Margaret CARMINOW. She born 1420. Generation 14: Sir John deARUNDEL V was the father of Sir Thomas; born 1367 Lanherne, Cornwall; died 20 May 1433 Lustock, Devonshire. Sheriff of Cornwall. Married Eleanor deLAMBORNE about 1390. She born abt 1374 in Lamborne, Cornwall. Sir Hugh de COURTENAY V was the father of Hugh IV, born abt 1365 of Haccombe & Boconnock; died 15 Mar 1424/5. Knight of the SHire of Devon in 1895; married Elizabeth deCOGAN. She born about 1369. Generation 15: Sir John de ARUNDEL IV, father of Sir John, born about 1336 Lanherne, Cornwall; died about 1400. Married Joan LUSC OTE of Lustock; she born about 1344 Lustock, Devonshire; died 31 January 1394/95. William deLAMBOURNE was the father of Eleanor; born about 1430 Lamborne, Cornwall; married Joan leSOOR about 1372 in Lamborne. She born about 1345 in Talverne, England. Sir William deCOGAN was the father of Elizabeth; born 1340 Bampton, Devonshire, England; died 22 July 1382 Huntsfield, SOmershire. Married Isabel LORING. She born about 1366; died 24 Aug 1400. She was co-heiress with her father. to be continued next post. Sandi

I have spent several long days and finally got a break-through on the Henry Gorin line .. but, alas, not on the Gorin line that can be confirmed ... yet. This is on the PELL line and I know that several of you have been able to go back farther. This is for you - about 23 more genearations! I finally tapped into an English genealogist who does the "big" families, compared it with some others, and believe it to be as accurate as can be for us in 2005. Sarah would be generation - we're going backward! Generation 2: Richard Pell born 1726 Surrey England. Immigrated about 1737 to Fairfax Co VA. He was married to an unknown spouse about 1759 in Kent, England. Generation 3: John Pell was born 1678 in London England; died in Philadelphia PA. He was married, spouse unknown. Generation 4: Father of John Pell was Sir John Pell and Rachel Pinckney. Sir John born 3 Feb 1642/3 London, England; died 1702 Pelham Manor, Wescester Co NY; md to Rachel 1672 in London. Rachel was born abt 1658 in Westester Co NY. Generation 5: Phillip Pinckney was the father of Rachel; born abt 1624 Buckingham, England; died Feb 1688/89 in Eastchester, Westchester NY; md to Jane PHIPPEN in 1624 in Buckingham England. She born before 1648 Cromwall, England; died same location as husband. Generation 6: George Phippen was the father of Jane; birth date unknown in Devon England; died July 1650 Truro, Cornwall, England. Married Mary PENROSE who died after 1650 in England; she also born Cornwall. Generation 7: John PENROSE was the father of Mary; born Helston, Cornwall, England; died Nov 1617 England; Married Judith TREFUSES in Cornwall. Judith was born after 1583 in Devon; died after 1616 England. Generation 8: John TREFUSES was the father of Judith; born about 1560 Devon England; died 22 March 1602/3 Miler, Devon, England. Married unknown date to Mary GAVERIGAN. She born England, died 2 Dec 1608 Devon. Generation 9: Richard TREFUSES was the father of John; born Devon; died 21 May 1594 Exeter, Devon, England. Married Mary TREVANIAN who was born in England. Generation 10: John TREFUSES was the father of Richard; married Ann COLAN. She was born and died in England. to be continued next post. Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

It's been way too quiet on this list and I have a story to share with you that you might never connect with the Gorin family. Jimmy Simmons of here in Glasgow was a highly qualified Civil War historian. He was the history teacher at Glasgow High School for many years and it is due to his wonderful teaching style that many of our citizens here gained an intense interest in not only the war but of genealogy. Jimmy died a few years back and I am in the process of publishing 108 newspaper columns that ran in the now defunct Glasgow Republican newspaper. All of the articles deal with Glasgow and Barren Co in the Civil War, written 100 years after the conslusion of the war. He wrote the following column, which dealt with the War of 1812 instead, and did involve our family. Although not named in this article, the troops involved in this story were led by our John Gorin. Jimmy told this story at the dedication of a Revolutionary War marker for John at the Glasgow Municipal Cemetery about 10 years ago and cited it as being John Gorin's unit who raised many troops here in Glasgow. I thought you might enjoy the story. The Kentucky Military Pig (November 8, 1962) I hope that the reader will forgive me for departing, just this once, from the War Between the States, but the story which I am going to tell today is one of my favorites and I cannot resist relating it at this time. In 1813, Governor Isaac Shelby issued a call for Kentucky Volunteers to meet him at Newport for the purpose of invading Canada and getting revenge for the Raisin Massacre. A large number of troops having been murdered there when the prisoners from that battle had been turned over to the Indians by the British. Many of the prisoners were Kentuckians. The story goes that one of the volunteer companies was passing through Harrodsburg on their way to join Governor Shelby, when they saw two pigs fighting outside of the town. The men becoming interested in the fight, paused to observe the combat. The fight was soon over and the militiamen offered their heartiest congratulation to the victor. The march was soon resumed, and the pig was observed trotting along on the flank of the company. When the column halted for the night, the pig settled down near the men, and was soon sharing the rations of the men. This continued for several days and the men soon became quite fond of their comrade. At Newport, the militiamen bade a sad farewell to their comrade and embarked on the ferry for Cincinnati. The pig hesitated for a second, and then, to the delight of the men, plunged into the mighty Ohio and swam across beside the ferry. When the march resumed, the pig was once again in his usual place. To say that he became the favorite of the men, is an understatement. Many lean and hungry days wee to follow for the Kentuckians, but not once did anyone entertain even the vaguest thought of dining on the pig. When the volunteers reached Lake Erie, the pig mounted the ferry with them, but at Boss Island, he refused to disembark into Canada and was returned to the American shore with a man to care for his wants. The Kentuckians proceeded to the Thames where they were victorious over the British and the Indians. Upon their return, there stood "Old Kentucky" waiting to join them on their return home. The return journey was one of many hardships as winter had set in. The military pig suffered greatly from the cold and at Maysville, where the army re-crossed the river, it was decided to leave him in care of a sympathetic farmer until he could recover from the frostbite. More than one tear dimmed the eye of the heroes of the Thames as he bade a last farewell to an old comrade of many a hard campaign. But the story of the Kentucky Military Pig was not yet ended, because when he recovered, Governor Shelby had him brought to his farm near Frankfort where he spent the remainder of his days in ease and plenty like a true southern gentleman. Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

I don't know if you're interested or not, but I was recently interviewed by the "Kentucky Woman" magazine and the article appeared in last night's paper. Now - typical of newspapers, bless them, part of the article is missing which tells where I live, my web site, email addy etc and the intro of how I got into this crazy business. But, the bulk of the article is there anyway. This magazine is published 4 times a year in various newspapers in KY and celebrates Kentucky Women who are movers and shakers as they say ... I think I'm still moving but not doing much shaking! Anyway, I was honored to be asked; I was interviewed a few years back by a television station in Bowling Green KY who sent a crew over. I love helping people find their roots and hopefully through these venues, I can inspire an interest in family tree research. The web site is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/sandiarticle.html You will see a link to the article in two parts, in two different sizes based on your system. Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

In the Henry Gorin line, Henry Madison Gorin married Joanna Knott, sister of the Governor of Kentucky, the Honorable J. Proctor Knott. For those of you connected to this line, thought you might find this interesting. Sandi HON. J. PROCTOR KNOTT. The distinguished gentleman, whose name graces the head of this sketch, was descended from the Irvines as follows: Abram Irvine, a descendant of the house of Bonshaw and resident of the north of Ireland, came to this country some time before the War of the Revolution -- the exact date his descendant have been unable to learn. He settled in Virginia and there married Mary Dean. He removed from Virginia to Kentucky some time between the years 1780 and 16790, and made his home in Boyle county, near Danville, Kyk., within a few miles of Governor Shelby's residesnce. Abraham Irvine and his wife Mary Dean, had nine children. ABRAM IRVINE was the son of Rev. John Irvine. Mary Irvine, daughter of Abram Irvine and Mary Dean, his wife, married Samuel M'Elroy. Their son, William E. M'Elroy, married Keturah Cleland. Their daughter, Maria Irvine M'Elroy, married Joseph Percy Knott. Issue: Page 167: 1. William T., who married Marian Briggs M'Elroy, and after her death married Mrs. Lydia M'Elroy (nee Harrison), widow of Rev. Hugh Sneed M'Elroy. 2. Keturah Frances, married to Wells Rawlings (long since deceased). 3. Samuel Cleland, married Miss Sarah Gates, of Georgia 4. Marian Margaret, married to Robert T. Nesbit 5. Edward Whitfield, married Miss Mattie C. M'Koy (M'Coy) 6. Anna Maria, married to John Randolph Hudnell. 7. Joanne, married to Rev. Marcellus G. Gavin [note Gorin], of St. Louis, Missouri 8. James Proctor, married Sarah Rosanna M'Elroy. James Proctor Knott was born August 27, 1830; married June 14, 1858. Elected to the Missouri Legislature the following August; appointed attorney-general of the same state, August, 1859, and elected to that office August, 1860. Returned to Kentucky in 1862; elected to the fortieth Congress in 1867; forty-first, 1868; forty-fourth, 1874, and re-eledted successively to the forty-fifty, forty-sixth and forty-seventh. Elected Governor of Kentucky August 1883, and to the constitutional convention in August, 1890. Governor Knott writes: "I know very little of my father's ancestry of that name. The records were destroyed in the burning of my grandmother's residence, when I was a small boy. All I know is that my grandfather, my great-grandfather and my great-great-grandfathers were all only sons, and all of them; except my grandfather, were ministers of the Church of England; that they were of Danish extraction, and lived in Northumberland, England - I mean their forbears, down to the immigration of my grandfather's grandfather, who was a curate on that estate (In Northumberland); and that I know by tradition only. There is a tradition, also, that the last name married a daughter of Earl Percy, and in that way the name Percy, which was born by my father, grandfather and my great-grandfather came into the family, but I never thought it worth while to ascertain. "I was once assured by a painstaking antiquary that he had traced my father's side of the house to Richard de Percy in a direct line, one of the grim old barons appointed by Runnymede to see that John Lackland should observe the Great Charta of English liberty there exhorted from him, and that my coat of arms is: Or, a lion rampaart, sz. I am a Scotch-Irishman, however, and with many of the traits of that race, I inherited the sentiment "that blood is thicker than water,' and whether pleb. or patrician, I am always glad to recognize my kinfolk." In appearance, Governor Knott was of a very uncommon type of manhood. He was a little above the medium height; strongly and compactly built. At the first glance one was impressed by a strength -- mental and physical. He was not one with whom a stranger would attempt to converse uninvited, and yet those who knew him well say that he was the kindest and most gentle of men to women and children, and charitable almost to a fault. The speech of his, -- known all over the world as the "Duluth Speech," -- has been published again and again in this country, and has been translated into many languages. The school boys, by thousands, have recited it, and murdered its inimitable humor and fadeles and matachless fancies, ever since it first came before the public in 1871." Source: The Irvines and their kin: a history of the Irvine family and their descendants: also short sketches of their kindred, the Carlisles, McDowells, Johnstons, Maxwells, Gaults, McElroys, etc. from A. D. 373 to the present time. L. Boyd, Chicago, R. R. Donnelley, 1808, 471 pages. Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

Just for your info. Daniel Porter Turner's obituary in 1944, he the husband of Emma (Emily) Gorin. Mr. D.P. Turner, retired farmer, was killed here Sat. afternoon when he was run over by a freight car at the L&N railroad crossing near the depot. Mr. Turner who lived in the New Addition was on his way to town and was struck by a freight car as he was crossing the tracks. The wheels severed his right arm and leg, and he lived only a few minutes after the accident. He was born 12 Nov 1859, and died 5 Aug 1944. Daniel Porter Turner was the second child of Benjamin Milton Turner and his wife, Mary Jane Hawks Turner. Dec 4, 1884 he was happily married to Miss Emma Esther Gorin, dau of the late Capt W.F. Gorin. He is survived by his widow and 5 children, namely: Mrs. C.E. Marshall, Minneola, Kansas, Mrs. P.L. Hicks, Louisville, Ky., and Harry, Milton and Woodson Turner, Greensburg, Ky. In a great revival at Salem C. P. Church, in the fall of 1882, he professed his faith in Christ. Thereafter, he joined the Cumberland Presbyterian Church and has lived a faithful member of that church, having served for many years as a member of the official board of Greensburg Cumberland Presbyterian church. To know Porter Turner was to like him. His name might be called synonym for honesty, integrity, truth, uprightness in life. He was a man of wide acquaintance; and that the people like him is shown by the hundreds of callers who in respect to him and his family, went to his home after his death, and also by the many beautiful flowers that were sent to his home to surround the casket in which he lay. His family will always appreciate the many kindnesses shown to them by his numerous friends. May memories of him be influences for good in the lives, not only of members of his family, but in the lives of his friends. Brief funeral services were held at his home Tues. afternoon, 8 Aug 1944, and he was laid to rest in Greensburg.... Obituaries of Green Co. Ky., Vol. 6, compiled by Eunice Montgomery Wright, p. 219 1860 Green Co. Ky. Census, Transcribed by Ruth M. Lind, p. 196, family #394, 31 Jul 1860, Barrack PO; Benj. M. Turner, 29, farmer, -- $300, Ky; Mary J., 21, Ky; William P, 2, Daniel P., 8/12, Ky; Jane Hawks, 35, -- $400, Ky; 1870 Green Co. Ky. Census, compiled by DeWayne Wilson, p. 93: D# 40 F#43; Benjamin M. Turner, 40, farmer $600 $1200, Ky; Mary J., 32, Keeps house, Ky; William, 12, at home, Ky; Daniel P., 10, Ky; Flora A., 8, Ky; Mattie N., 6, Ky; MIldred J., 2, Ky; Malissie F., 4, Ky; Elbert M., 1, Ky; Jane Hawks, 50, Ky. 1910 Green Co. Ky. miracode census index Daniel Porter Turner; ED : 0039; W; 50; Ky; Visit: 0218; Green Relation: Husband; Relatives: Wife Emma E 42, Ky Son Harry B 17, Ky Son Milton G 14, Ky Dau Lucy Ann 11, Ky Son Woodson C 09, Ky Cousin Eugene Mitchum 35, Ky 1920 Green County, Kentucky census, North Greensburg Precinct, SD #4, ED #42, Sheet 6B, taken 17 January 1920 by John F Wilson, Dw #115, Fam #117, Line #'s 69 thru 73: (ADC Image #577, 12 of 25) Turner, Porter: Head, Owns Home F&C, Male, Wh, Age 62[sic], Marr, KY, KY, KY, Farmer/General Turner, Emma E: Wife, Fem, Wh, Age 50[sic], Marr, KY, KY, KY Turner, Harry: Son, Male, Wh, Age 27, Single, KY, KY, KY, Home/Farm Turner, Lusy[sic]: Dau, Fem, Wh, Age 22, Single, KY, KY, KY, Teaching/School Turner, Woodson: Son, Male, Wh, Age 19, Single, KY, KY, KY, Home/Farm 1930 Green County, Kentucky census census, District 1, Greensburg Town, SD #6, ED #44-1, Sheet 7B, taken 9 April 1930 by Ruth Henderson, Dw #133, Fam #185, Line #'s 59 thru 63: Turner, D P: Head, Male, Wh, Age 70, Marr, KY, KY, KY, Farming/General Turner, Emma: Wife, Fem, Wh, Age 62, Marr, KY, KY, KY Turner, Harry: Son, Male, Wh, Age 37, Single, KY, KY, KY, Farmer/General Turner, Milton: Son, Male, Wh, Age 35, Single, KY, KY, KY, Farming/General Turner, Dorothy: Gr-Dau, Fem, Wh, Age, Single, KY, KY, KY [Note: First Marriage Age - D P, Age 24; Emma, Age 18.] Marriages of Green Co. Ky. 1874 - 1890, compiled by Judy Froggett, p. 161: Daniel P. Turner and Emma E. Gorin. Bond 2 Dec 1884. J.H. Myers on bond. Groom age 25, lst mg., farmer, born Green Co., father born Taylor Co., mother born Hart Co. Bride age 17, lst mg., born Hart Co., parents born Hart Co. Married at W.F. Gorin's 4 Dec 1884 by W.H.C. Sandidge. Wit. William McInteer, Leander McInteer and H.H. Cann. Cemeteries of Green Co. Ky., Vol. 4, p. 29: Greensburg Cem. Daniel Porter Turner 12 Nov 1859 - 6 Aug 1944 Imma Esther Turner 20 Jan 1868 - 27 Jun 1953 Kentucky Death Index, rootsweb TURNER DANIEL P; age 84; death place GREEN; residence GREEN; death date 5 Aug 1945 Sandi Colonel Sandi Gorin SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html Gorin Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

I've been informed that two Gorin brothers have died recently: Roy Martin Gorin, born 16 Nov 1914; died 29 Oct 2003 in Lakewood, Jefferson, CA and his brother - James Louis Gorin, 9 Oct 1913 - 22 June 2004, Yulcaipa, CA This information was provided by Roy's daughter and our belated condolences to the family. Roy and James were the sons of James Clay and Emma C Hamann Gorin; grandson of John Gladden and Judith D Cann Gorin; gg grandson of James J and Lucy Ann Mansfield Gorin; ggg grandson of John Henry and ELizabeth Bailey Jones Gorin and gggg grandson of Gladin and Nancy Hinch Gorin. Sandi Colonel Sandi Gorin SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html Gorin Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Hi, Sandi stopped by my site, postcards.rootsweb.com and created a Virtual Card just for you! To pick up your card, simply point your browser at the page listed below. http://postcards.rootsweb.com/cards/dec16-2116622698.html The card will remain on the server for about one month, so please print it out or save it as soon as you can.

I'm down with a flu bug or virus so decided to do something interesting today. I've been reading censuses and solved one problem, created another. 1860 census: Gladin Gorin, 51, farmer, personal worth: $32,000; property worth: $94,380, born KY. Wife: Jane B [Wormley], 46, born KY. Daughter Mary 16, born TN; son Joseph M, 13, born AL and Daughter Lou F, 5, born AL. Township 14, Range 4. Shiloh, East Marengo, AL. He had a LOT of money for 1860! Now - this is Gladin Gorin Sr's son. I knew he had married in TN to Jane 12 Dec 1834 (Madison Co) and had his children - but lost them - they were in AL. This is a lead on the AL Gorin's I've been chasing for years. But - a new one that I can't peg. At house 67-67 in Mobile Ward 3, Mobile AL, in a boarding house with professionals is Thomas A Gorin, 31`, lawyer, born KY. I have no idea of who he is. Gladin Sr had a son Thompson B - wrong initial, wrong location, wrong time. I can't match him up with any known Thomas I have on file. Always another puzzle. Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

I've been rather busy lately; Oct and Nov usually mean my setting up at book fairs (one in Glasgow that I co-sponsor) and one in Green Co KY; working on our historical society quarterly, etc. But, I noted that ancestry.com released more of the WW I draft cards; the actual images. Some are hard to read, some don't have have much information but here are "our" Gorins. James Arthur Gorin, 2811 - 4th St, Port Arthur, Jefferson TX. Draft registration #30. Born 13 Mar 1887 Litchfield, IL, natural born citizen, age 30. Employed by H___ M___ Co in Port Arthur. Wife, one child. Medium tall, medium build, medium hair, medium eyes. Roll 1953881, Draft board 2, 5/ June 1917. Gladin Gorin line. John Washington Gorin, 1814 - 6th St, Port Arthur, Jefferson, TX. No birth place completed. Registration 2667. Age 35, born 27 Nov 1882. Present occupation: Stationery Engineer for the Texas Co. Relative: Lois Gorin. 12 Sept 1915. Same Roll and draft board. Gladin Gorin line. Joseph Bailey Gorin, 608 W 16th St, Port Arthur, Jefferson, TX. $1050. Age 21, born Munfordville, Hart, KY. Efficiency Engineer fdor Silbur? Co in Port Arthur. Single, tall, slender, brown hair, brown eyes. 5 June 1917. Gladin Gorin line. Charles Grizzle Gorin, Waco, McLenan, TX. Born 10 June 1891. Resided 316 Sherman, Waco. Born 10 June 1891, natural born citizen, born Bremond? TX. RR Car clerk for H&KTC RR in Waco. Single, mother closest relative. Medium build, medium tall, brown hair, brown eyes, 5 June 1917. Roll 1983770, draft board 0-, #2544. Gladin Gorin line. James Wilson Gorin, 247 Bull, Savannah, Chatham, GA. A-59C. 41, born 6 June 1877, osteopathic physician. Mrs Lucy Wilson Gorin, nearest relatiave. 10 Sept 1917. John Gorin line. Some of the lines are not completed on these cards, some are unreadable. Any corrections appreciated! Sandi

I have been swamped and not finished up the list of Gorin's found on the 1910 census ... I'm hosting a large book fair this Saturday with the South Central KY Cultural Center - and then participating in one in Greensburg the following Saturday. That with the normal chores of life and a doctor's appt tossed in has had my head swimming! Our local cable company, the Electric Plant Board, maintains a web site - they are also my electric company, phone company and internet provider - good people. Each day they have a picture on their website provided by the customers. I made it today on my favorite spot - Bell's Tavern in Park City KY of which some of you might be familiar. The webmaster gave me a nice write-up under the picture. If you'd like to check it out go to: http://www.glasgow-ky.com/ Space down a few lines and you'll see my favorite place in the area next to Mammoth Cave! Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

Before trying to face the real world on a dreary Friday; here are more finds: John Gorin, age 25, born ca 1884, Series Ty4, Roll 474, pt 2, page 211B. Single, he and parents born KY, resided Fayette Co KY, Commissioner?, KY House of Representatives. ???? Haven't figured him out yet. Johnie Gorin, age 8, born TX, resided 6th district, Grayson Co KY, born ca 1902, Series T624, Roll 477, part 2, page 219A. Living with cousin Joe F Mattingly. Believe this to be John Lawson Gorin, s/o James Clay Gorin of the Gladin Gorin line. Rebecca A Gorin, 54, born ca 1855 KY, resided 12th Ward, Louisville, Jefferson, Series T624, Roll 487 part 2, pge 207A. Widow, father born KY, mother born MS. With her is daughter Rebecca 23 who is single and a private secretary and dau Milded R, 21, single and a bookeeper at a binding company. THis would be the widow of George Rogers Gorin of the John Gorin line. Annie Gorin, 54, born ca 1855, resided 3rd Ward in Louisville. T624, Roll 484, part 2, page 288a. Unknown yet. She is a white servant, widow, born OH, parents were English speaking, lived with Perry Booth and wife. Likely no connection. There are a lot of Jewish Gorin's living in OH; between 1910-1920 there were a lot of Jewish Gorin's coming to America. Thomas B Gorin, Ward 3, Bowling Green. T624, roll 505, pt 1, pg 127a. 44 years old, married 10 years, brother in law of and residing with Frank J and Henrietta Monahan family. He and parents born KY, house carpenter. His wife was Collette, 35. They had one child, one living - John, 8. This of Gladin's line. A YES for me... I'd lost this family. Sarah N. Gorin, 73, born ca 1836, born MO, resided ward 7 in Kansas City, Jackson, MO. T624, roll 786, pt 1, pg 98A. She was living with: Edgar Allen Poe, 32, male, married 6 yrs, he and parents born MO, a wagon driver for the Express Co. His wife was Leona A (Gorin), 32, all born MO. They had one child, living - William R Poe, age 4. Also residing was John W Gorin, brother-in-law to Edgar, 42, single, no occupation. This is the Sanford Pell Gorin line out of Henry Gorin and Sarah Pell. John C Gorin, 69, born ca 1840 KY, resided Scovile Precinct, Hamilton, Nebraska. T624, Roll 847, part 3, page 113B. He was a boarder with Guy A Barnes, 69 and his wife Mildred J. Also was JOhn H Gorin, 22, single. This is out of the John Gorin line. William GOrin, 36, born ca 1873, resided Pleasant Home Precinct, Polk, Nebraska, born KY. T624, Roll 853, part 3, page 66B. Married 15 years, insurance agent. Wife Grace, 30; she born IL, parents born NY. They had son John, 14; daughter Mildred, 11; son Maurice, 7; daughter Emma, 5 and dau Opal, 3. This is out of the John Gorin line. That takes care of all the Gorin's by spelling. There were several whose names didn't link and I'll check out later. When I get caught up with my work today, I'm going to work on the Goren spelling, some of our families are there. Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

Here's the next set with a real puzzler included: Charles B, age 22, born ca 1887, 25th Ward, Chicago, Cook, IL. Roll 268, part 1, pg 10B. married 1 yr, he and parents born MO, salesman lumber company. Wife: Laveta, 20, born MO, father born LA, mother born MO. This would be Charles Bartley Gorin, son of Ernest Bartley Gorin Sr, of the Henry Gorin line. Geneva Gorin, Inmate, 17, single, born TN, parents born KY, Chicago Refuge Home for Girls on Indiana Ave in Chicago. 6th Ward, Roll 246, part 2, pg. 38a. I've done a websearch and this was an benevolent institution for possibly several categories: wayward girls, unwed mothers, abused children (fathers who were alcoholics or mothers who could not care for the children etc). I have only one Geneva Gorin on file who is a mystery. She was the daughter of William H Gorin and unknown (or no wife). He was born in Warren Co KY in 1867; he the son of Thompson B Gorin and Emily Runner; grandson of John Henry Gorin; great-grandson of Gladin and Nancy Hinch Gorin. I have no data on her but this Geneva would have been the right age to be the dau of William H. I wonder what happened? Edward B Gorin, age 44, born ca 1865 MO, 7th Ward, Chicago, Cook, IL. Series T624, Roll 247, part 2, page 228B. Wife Edith (Lynott), 43, she and parents born MO. Son Frank 16, who worked at a steel works; son Edward 14; son Clifford 10 and Mrs R J Gorin, his mother, age 63. This would be Ernest now Edward as coded - Ernest Bartley Gorin Sr of the Henry Gorin line. An unknown who likely doesn't connect: William Gorin, 45, born ca 1864, 8th Ward, Commercial Avenue, Chicago, Cook, IL. Series T624, Roll 249, part 2, pg. 45B. Married 10 years, born KY, father born NY, mother born Ireland. Building laborer. Wife Rosa, 47, born NY, parents born Ireland. No children but list Ella as daughter, age 4, born IL. I have no "unclaimed William" except the William H above. Addie Gorin, Piasa Township, born ca 1855, age 54, series T624, Roll 295, part 1, p. 143a. 54 years old, single, born IL, parents born TN, farmer. Living with her was her brother George 60 and her sister Anna 52, both single, all farming. This would be the dau of James Gladdin Gorin and his unknown wife; granddau of George Washington Gorin and Frances Sweeney; gg-grandau of Gladin Gorin and Nancy Hinch. Frank Gorin, Pisasa Township, born ca 1859, age 50, Series T624, Roll 295, part 1, page 140B. Married 5 years, born IL, parents born TN, general farming. Wife: Sallie?, 36, born IL, father English, mother born TN. 4 children, 4 living. Only one at home Frank E, age 2. This is Frank Gorin Sr and wife Lillie Belle, son of George Washington Gorin above. M Ina Gorin, 23, born ca 1886 IL, 4th Ward, Litchfield, Montgomery, IL, Series T624, Roll 313, part 1, pg 171A. Married one year, no children. Resided with and dau of Malissa Myers. Father born IN, mother born MO. Residing with them was Harry, son-in-law (her husband), 23 born IL, father born KY, mother born IL, clerk in clothing store. This would be Harry Clairborne Gorin and wife Melissa Ina Gorin, son of George Washington Gorin and Rebecca Caroline Gardner; grandson of James J Gorin and Lucy Mansfield, ggrandson of John Henry Gorin; ggggrandson of Gladin and Nancy HInch Gorin. George W Gorin, North Litchfield Precinct, Montgomery, IL, T624, Roll 313, Part 1, pg 117A. Age 50, born ca 1859, married 24 years, born KY, father born KY, mother born VA. Wife Carrie R, 3 children, all living, she born IL, parents born KY. Son Arthur James, 20, single, bookeeper at wholesale grocery. Son Gladden Gorin, age 5. This is George Washington Gorin, and Rebecca Caroline "Carrie" Gorin (born 1885) and two of their sons. The other son was Harry Clairborne above. Julia E Gorin, 2nd Ward, Washington, Tazewell, IL, age 71, born ca 1838 IL, series T624, Roll 328, part 2, pg 82B. She a widow with 5 children, 4 living, father born VT, mother born IL. Had daughter Elizabeth H, 48, single and dau Ella H, age 45, single - no occupations for any. This would be the widow of John Gladin Gorin (Julia A Woods). Harold W Gorin, 3rd Ward, Washington, Tazewell, IL, age 40, b ca 1869, Series T64, Roll 328, part 2, page 86B. Married 10 years, he and parents born IL, railroad agent. Wife Maryette C, 31, she and parents born IL. No children. This is Harry W Gorin and wife Maretta (of 15 spellings at least!), son of John Gladin Gorin above. They had one son later, Gladden. That's it for tonight - still looking. Hoping this is helping some of you! Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

This is the busiest month of the year for me as I co-host a large genealogy book fair here on the 30th and then participate in one in Greensburg KY the following weekend. But today I received notice that ancestry.com had released, finally, the total index of names on the 1910 census. I have only started going thru the 85 Gorin's shown (some are African American and some Jewish) and the Goren's - some of whom are ours. I also have some puzzles. Here are the few that I've found and if anyone has information, please post it to the list or write me. Henry J Gorin, 30, single born ca 1880 in MO, father born MO, mother born KY, secretary for a coal Co in Cullman, Cullman, AL. Series T-64, Reel 10, Part 1, page 1B. His wife must be deceased. His mother is residing with them, Josie A, 70, widow, born KY, father born MO, mother born KY. Also Maud Gorin, his sister, 28, single and his sister Josie, age 26, single. We have several Henry Jerome Gorin's who have to tie in here but none of them fit. Charles M. Gorin, Santa Monica, Los Angeles, Ca, Series T624, Rool 87, Part 1, page 126B. He is 50, single, born MO, father born USA, mother born VA. Gold miner. (he born then ca 1859). This would be Charles Martin Gorin, son of John Darns Gorin Jr and Emily Hudnall; grandson of John Darns Gorin Sr and Martha Thomas; gg-grandson of Henry and Sarah Pell Gorin. J D Gorin, Township 5, santa Barbara CA, Series T624, Roll 105, Part 1, pg 78A.. He born ca 1872, age 4, married 13 years, born NV, father born IL, mother born VA, oil well driller. Wife: Victoria, age 33, had 3 children, 2 living. Emily A, daughter, 11, born TN, father born MS, mother born TN and son, John D, 4 born Ca. I don't know where the MS came from. This would be John Darns Gorin III and his wife Victoria Delight Buckingham. George J Gorin, their son born in 1904 was then deceased by 1910. (He died in 1905). James Gorin, 32, born ca 1877, 2nd Military District, Chatham Co GA, Series T624, Roll 177, Part 2, Page 290A, osteopath. He is shown as a lodger along with his wife Lucy, 25 and daughter Lucille, 4 - both born (and parents also) in KY. This would be Dr. James Wilson Gorin and his wife Lucy Weisiger, son of William Murrel, grandson of James Wilson Gorin, gg-grandson of John Gorin JR and ggg-grandson of John and Elizabeth Franklin Gorin. Sandi

I found some new Gorin's too ... check this site out for any other names you're researching! Sandi Volunteers for the National Park Service's Civil War Soldiers and Sailors System Web site (CWSS; http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss) have completed the Name Index Project to post 6.3 million soldier records from 44 US states and territories. After the final million names-belonging to soldiers from Virginia and Pennsylvania-were added last month, a ceremony at Ford's Theatre marked the milestone. Next up for indexing are naval personnel records, but that'll take awhile, according to the CWSS site: "Given that the records sources for the Navy are not as well organized as the Army records, nor are they microfilmed, the target date for this is still to be determined." About 18,000 African-American sailors are already cataloged on CWSS, thanks to Department of Defense funding and work by Howard University. The soldier data came from the General Index Cards in the National Archives and Records Administration's Compiled Military Service Records. CWSS also has Civil War information such as regimental histories and links to descriptions of nearly 400 significant battles.

This is to announce the birth of Christina Michaela Heck, born 1:11 pm on the 30th of Sept 2004 at Scottsdale Healthcare in Scottsdale, AZ. Weight: 7 lbs, 8 oz; length 19 in. She is the daughter and first child of Peter Heck and Meredith Fleming Gorin Heck; granddaughter of Jeff Gorin and the late Christy Gorin; and first great-grandchild of Eleanor Glorin and the late Lewis Jefferson Gorin Jr. Congratulations - I am so happy for you all. Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

A schedule of the books conveyed in the above indenture. Burrows Reports 5 volumes Coopers Reports 2 Vol. Douglass' Report 2 Vol Bibb's Reports 4 Vol Christian Blackstone 4 Vol Phillips Evidence 2 Vol Jones on Bailment 1 Vol McNallys Evidence 1 Vol Pleaders Assistant 1 Vol Espenafson? Nicipies? 2 Vol Littles Selected Cases 1 Vol Laws on Pleading 1 Vol Littells Reports 5 Vol [these were the law books of VA which were used in KY also.] Justinian 1 Volume Lock's Essays 2 Vol Pleutarch's Lives 8 Vol Blaire Lectures 1 Vol Walker's Large Dictionary 1 Vol Byrons Poems 4 Vols Tristam Shandy 4 Vols Milton's Works 2 Vols Federalist 1 Vol Murrays Grammar 1 Vol Campbells poems 1 Vol Life of Patrict Henry 1 Vol U S Constitution 1 Vol In Barren County Court Clerk's Office on May 24th 1825. This deed of Mortgage from Franklin Gorin to Henry Gorin was acknowledged before me by the said Franklin Gorin to be his act and deed & thereupon the said Mortgage the schedule thereto annexed together with this certificate were entered of Record in said office. Teste: /s/ Wm Logan, Clk." Franklin apparently paid back this note in time, in 1830 he purchased what on older Warren Co deeds showed as the "big hole in the ground" -- Mammoth Cave. Sandi

My dau Shelley found something for me Sat while at the County Clerk's office here in Glasgow - extremely interesting. I have published the first deed books for Barren Co, based on a former researcher's work, but somehow, she skipped over 20 pages in Deed Book K which Shelley found on pages 192, 193. I thought I had figured out why this deed existed but I think I just talked myself out of it. In the late 1820's-1830ish, there were a lot of bank failures in KY due to the beginning stages of banking in the US. Many times mortgages were arranged if some big debt had been incurred and after the failures, the individual could not pay the debt. The individual mortgaged most or all that they owned to someone else - normally a relative. If the individual was able to pay off his debt in time, nothing moved, nothing was lost. Franklin Gorin in 1825 was a well-known lawyer here in Glasgow, he and his father, John Gorin, also owned a mercantile during the early years of the county formation. Two of Franklin's brothers, Henry and John Gorin Jr had moved to Russellville in Logan Co and in this transaction Franklin is mortgaging everything to Henry (not to be confused with Henry Gorin, his uncle). Since this does not appear in any of my Gorin books, thought I would take a couple of posts and transcribe it as it gives a wonderful look at what people owned in 1825. Spelling as shown, punctuation as shown. It is possible that he took out a loan from Henry for the mercantile ... I honestly don't know! "This Indenture made and entered into this 24th day of May 1825 between Franklin Gorin of the county of Barren and State of Kentucky of the one part and Henry Gorin of the County of Logan and same State of the other part. Witnesseth that whereas the said Franklin Gorin is indebted to the said Henry the sum of four hundred and twelve dollars 16 cents which is evidenced by a note executed by said Franklin to said Henry Gorin date 25th day of February 1823, for that sum now in order to Secure the payment thereof and for the further consideration of one dollar in hand paid he the said Franklin hath bargained and sold and by these presents doth bargain Sell alein and convey unto the said Henry the following property towit: One bay horse Gelding four years old being the same horse I got from Samuel Rennick last summer. One gray colt about 18 months old the same I got of my brother Thomas J. Gorin. One dozen Split bottom Chairs two beds bedstead & furniture and dining table. One Candlestand one man's saddle and bridle. One woman's Saddle. All my Books both law and miscellaneous a Schedule of which is hereto annexed - all my cubbord ware consisting of knives & forks plates dishes Bowls Glass tumblers pitchers cups and Sausers &c. One cow and Calf. My stock of hogs, two trunks, looking Glasses - all my Kitchen furniture towit, pots, ovens, Kettles and Skillets to have & to hold the aforesaid property and every part thereof to the said Henry Gorin his heirs and assigns forever and the said Franklin doth hereby Covanant and agree to warrant and defend the title to said property unto the said Henry his heirs and assigns against the claim or claims of all persons Whatever - Yet upon this condition that if the said Franklin Shall well and truly pay the said sum of $412.16 cents with interest within one month from this time & all costs that may accrue in obtaining a judgement on said note and all Costs (if it should become necessary to forclose this mortgage), that may accrue in obtaining the above then said property then this Indenture to be void else to remain in full force and virtue as a mortgage. In testimony wherof the said Franklin hath the day and year above written hereunto. Set his hand and affixed his seal. /s/ Fr. Gorin [Seal] to be concluded next post - Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - Publishing: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

Hello, I am researching the life of John Edward George Gorin born Devonport, Devon, England sometime during the late 1890's and raised in Cornwall, England. I can trace him to 1915 but he then disappears and I can only assume that he emigrated. I am curious about John Gorin ( American Social security Index ) born 4th July 1898 and died 1981 on a visit to Europe. This is not recorded in the English deaths. The SS permit was issued in California. Is this the John I am trying to trace ? I will be grateful for any information. Regards Roger Townsend, Plymouth England.

I know you haven't heard from me for a long time - I apologize but life keeps getting complicated. But something happened today that blew my mind and proved the goodness of people. About 10 yrs ago or so, "Tank" Gorin - one of my gals' cousins came by for a visit and showed me an beautiful picture. He and his brothers (now deceased), his sister-in-law Eleanor (my "2nd mom") had been on their way for a 2 week vacation up in northern WI to a lodge they own up there. They had stopped at a little town in north central IL to rest and gone into a museum. While stretching their legs, Tank's eye was caught by a beautiful wedding gown in a glass case and it had the name of the bride - a Gorin. He snapped a picture of it because of the name and later asked me if I knew who it was. At the time, I did; I knew it was one of the daughters of Sanford Pell Gorin, s/o Henry and Sarah Pell Gorin, and knew why it was in that area. Years passed, I forgot to ask Tank for a copy of the picture and now it's not to be found. I got to thinking about it yesterday when I had a phone call from Eleanor. My dau was on her way up there and they were taking off for a week's vacation at the lodge, both needing some time away from the world. They would be stopping at Rockford IL for the night. I asked Eleanor if she remembered the picture, no, but she remembered their stopping. She said she would call a friend of theirs who was with them that trip because she knew it was his birthplace; she thought it was in IN. She called me back shortly afterwards and said it was at the old historic courthouse in Metamora IL (Woodford Co) where one of the famous Lincoln-Douglas debates had been held. It had been restored and was now a museum. I went on line last night and finally found a write-up on the courthouse but couldn't find the hours they were open. I put out a query on the Woodford Co IL list and a fellow answered and said that the courthouse had been closed for years, but had just re-opened and if no one came to my aid, he would drive 20-25 miles and go over there and take pictures. This morning in checking with the vacationeers, they had figured that they might be able to go off course and run over to the courthouse if I could find out if it was open. They would be coming in late however, likely after it was closed. I got on the web again and found a phone #, called the museum and it was answered by a very nice gentleman, the curator. He said they would be open until 5 and seemed amazed that someone in Glasgow KY would be interested in their museum! He gave me his home telephone # and said to have them come on, even if it was closed - call him and he'd come back and open up the museum for them. After almost not making it due to the length of the trip, Shelley called me around 6 pm, at the courthouse. The gentleman had opened it for them and then they had a puzzle. In restoring the museum, the name tags had fallen out of the display and there were TWO wedding dresses, one brown and one light green. One had the groom's outfit in the same case; the other had the 2nd day or next day dress (honeymoney dress) - which was which? Duh ... I had no idea and asked Shelley to take pictures of both for now. By this time, I couldn't even rememer which of Sanford Pell Gorin's daughters would have married there. I went into my gedcom files and bingo, there she is, Virginia Catherine Gorin. She was the only one of his several daughters to marry in Woodford County ... in 1846!! All the other children married in Washington, Tazewell Co IL. Talk about an old wedding dress! At the curator's request, I sent him what information I had on Virginia (her parents, grandparents) and her husband Marshall Davidson. They had married in 1846; she died in 1857, only 11 years into the marriage (I don't know when she was born yet but am looking) ... he remarried. I don't know if they had any children or who donated the gown. The curator has been looking thru all the donor books to see if he could find any information. The final irony? Marshall Davidson was the son of Caleb and Martha Davidson and was born in ..... Glasgow, KY. I know the family well. Needless to say I am most anxious to see those pictures! Everyone was so helpful and went out of their way to chase down a wedding dress that is 158 years old! Just had to share. And Shelley, when you read this ... thanks sweetie, I owe you big time! Sandi