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    1. [GORIN] Interesting information - Fort Washington, OH
    2. Sandi Gorin via
    3. Yes, I'm still here. I've just been so busy after the loss of my Mom and trying to earn a living in this economy that my Gorin research has suffered. But, Carol Inman, of the Gladin Gorin line, wrote me as she had found John and Glad(d) Gorin being mustered out of Fort Washington, OH in 1793. In all my years, I've never stumbled over this. I know that at least John Gorin, in his pension application stated that he had fought in Indian wars but had no paperwork. So I looked up Fort Washington on wikipedia (need to do more scouring now!) and here is what it said: Fort Washington was a fort in the early history of Cincinnati, Ohio. The location is marked by a plaque at the Guilford School building, at 421 E 4th St, Cincinnati, which now occupies the site. The physical location of the fort was facing the mouth of the Licking River, above present day Fort Washington Way. In 1789, Fort Washington was built to protect early settlements located in the Northwest Territory. The fort was located within modern-day Downtown Cincinnati and was used to protect settlers of that city in its early years. Gen. Josiah Harmar described it as "one of the most solid substantial wooden fortresses. . .of any in the Western Territory." The stockade's walls were two stories high with blockhouses located at each corner. The fort was named in honor of President George Washington.[1] Fort Washington provided military protection for the surrounding territories. Gen. Arthur St. Clair was appointed governor of the Northwest Territory by vote of Congress on October 5, 1787; he filled the office until November 22, 1802. When Governor St. Clair arrived at Losantiville [Cincinnati] the settlement consisted of two small hewed log houses and several cabins. Maj. Doughty, under orders from Gen. Josiah Harmar, was engaged with a small military force in finishing the construction of Fort Washington. The population of the rude village, exclusive of the military, probably did not exceed one hundred and fifty.[2] Three days after Gen. Harmar took up his quarters at Fort Washington, on January 1, 1790, Governor St. Clair was received with due ceremony by the troops and citizens of Losantiville. In 1790, Harmar used Fort Washington to launch an expedition against Native Americans in northwest Ohio, especially the Miami Indians, whose principal city was Kekionga (modern-day Fort Wayne, Indiana). The fort was used as a staging point and to supply all the northern forts. The fort would serve similar purposes for the remainder of the 1790s until the United States military moved its operation to the Newport Barracks. On October 22, 1790, Gen. Harmar's army was ambushed and soundly defeated by Indians led by Chief Little Turtle. The Indians of the Ohio Territory were in open revolt aided by the British. Indian raids came close to Cincinnati, despite the presence of the nearby Fort Washington. On June 1, 1791, John Van Cleve, a blacksmith of Fort Washington was stabbed in five places, killed and scalped by the Indians in an outlot of Cincinnati (near the present site of Music Hall).[3] General "Mad" Anthony Wayne was appointed Commander-in-Chief of the United States Army by President George Washington to subdue the Indians in the Northwest Territory. Wayne began at once to reorganize the army. In July 1792 he began training his men at Fort Lafayette at Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He then moved his forces to his purpose-built training center at Legionville (the United States Army's first basic training facility) during the winter 1792–93. In the summer of 1793, Wayne moved his forced down the Ohio River by barge to Fort Washington and waited for orders to attack. Washington was still trying to resolve problems through negotiation. He also established other Posts, a camp, Greenville, Ohio, in honor of his friend, Nathanael Greene, and another fort, Fort Recovery. After fighting for some time a treaty of peace was signed, on August 3, 1795, known as the Treaty of Greenville.[4] In 1803 the smaller Fort Washington was replaced by the Newport Barracks. It was opened just across the Ohio River in Newport, Kentucky. James Taylor Jr. an influential resident of Newport, Kentucky, had lobbied his cousin James Madison to place the post in Newport. When George Washington issued a patent for sale of 248,250 acres to Judge John Cleves Symmes, known as Symmes Purchase, on September 30, 1794, it reserved 15 acres to the federal government for the fort.[5] On February 28, 1806, Congress directed the Secretary of the Treasury to cause the site of the abandoned fort to be surveyed and laid off into lots, streets and avenues conforming to the plan of the city, and to sell the lots to the highest bidders at a sale at the Cincinnati Land Office.[6][7] The survey, certified July 8, 1807, shows the fort’s boundaries to be Fourth Street to the north, Ludlow Street to the east, the Ohio River to the south, and Broadway to the west.[8] Fort Washington's name is retained as Fort Washington Way, a corridor of Interstate 71 that runs through downtown Cincinnati. From Sandi: Now - I know that Gladin was too young to serve in the Rev. War. John served in the RW and in the War of 1812 as did Henry Gorin, the middle brother. But, in 1793 give or take a few years, Gladin would have been old enough to serve in some of the Indian Wars. The date of discharge for John and Gladin was in 1793 - the year after KY became a state. They are then found in Lexington, KY; Gladin married in Nelson Co. An interesting aside - Henry Gorin was awarded land in OH for his service in the RW but it appears he never lived there. Maybe some new information lurks? If you have any thoughts or ideas, please post to the list here by sending to GORIN@rootsweb.com, or you can write me privately. Sandi Colonel Sandi Gorin President, South Central KY Historical & Genealogical Society Sandi's website: http://www.gensoup.org/gorin/index.html Sandi's puzzlers: http://www.gensoup.org/gorinpuzzles/index.php --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

    01/31/2015 04:45:54
    1. [GORIN] An e-mail address hacked
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. If you received some spam from one of our list members, just ignore it. She has had her e-mail address and password hacked and she is not sending out the e-mails, the hacker is. I've written her, she would never do this! Sandi

    03/28/2012 05:21:04
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    03/28/2012 04:40:03
    1. [GORIN] Patience pays
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. Since I've been "hiding out" lately, trying to get caught up after my Mom's death; I thought I would give you a word of encouragement and patience. When I started my Gorin research, I fumbled as all do. But, I wrote (way before e-mail) a lady in Christian Co KY by the name of Portia Word. She was a descendant of Henry and Sarah Pell Gorin and mailed me so many things that helped in my research - including dozens of letters written by the daughters of Henry Gorin. This was about 1970-71. Over the years we lost contact. About a month ago, a man from Christian Co called me. Portia had died this January and being the excellent researcher she was, she made arrangements for the distribution of all of her records - copies to several family members who she trusted would preserve them. Among her files was a copy of my Henry Gorin Volume 2 book - done while we still lived in AZ. This gentleman hunted all over the internet and found me. He was so thrilled to reach me and in a few days, mailed me a huge cd with over 6,000 descendants - documented. Now, sadly, Portia only knew what I had found on the Gorin's so there is no new data there, I don't think; I'm still scanning the cd records. But, he told me that there was a young man (well, younger than me) in TN who was a direct line descendant of Henry through his daughter, Lucinda Gorin Harrison. Everyone in Portia's family knew I had the Henry Gorin family Bible and he wanted desperately to see it and touch it. (He is so hooked on family trees now!) After a call yesterday from this gentleman; he, his wife and two young children drove 3 hours from their home to mine. We spent about 4 hours talking and I introduced him to the rest of his family from all three brothers and told him stories about many of his immediate family. We had the most marvelous visit and yes, he got to handle the Bible, which is very large and very, very frail. He took pictures and then requested if I had time to direct them to Glasgow Municipal Cemetery where Henry's brother, John is buried. I gladly led them out there and he took pictures of every stone. Last night, after their return home, he sent me a batch of photographs of the Harrison Cemetery which I never would have found where Lucinda Gorin Harrison and family are buried. Sometimes it takes time. From 1971 to 2012 ... and of course there was the almost 20 year wait I had in finding the Henry Gorin Bible. It never gets old! I hope you are all well and I try to squeeze in a little work on the family between my paying (sometimes!) job of researching for others and compiling books. I'm up to 450 books now that I offer since moving to Glasgow in 1989. My best, Sandi

    03/26/2012 08:31:23
    1. [GORIN] New information found
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. I know I'm a stranger but nothing is settled here yet re my late Mom's estate, etc. How much longer! Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that I was contacted by a gentleman a few days ago who, after hunting for ever, found me as he thinks he is descended from the Gorin family. Yes he is and we found yet another spelling on our name! From John Gorin & his 2nd wife, Elizabeth Turpin Duval of Glasgow KY - to their son Rowan Gorin and Nancy James - to their son, James S. Gorin and Sarah Reynolds. The latter is the one who had 4 sons - William, John Rogers, Samuel and Joshua - all of whom spelled their names Goren except ... He found William Gorin aka Goren aka GORN in OH and it's our boy. He provided me with information on William and it's quite a story to put it mildly. He was married several times, but ... didn't bother with divorces between times. Our skeleton? I'm still hunting for Joshua and can't find him yet after all these years - most ended up in TX except William above. It pays to have your name on the web I guess; the family is growing! Hope you are all well and one of these days soon, I promise!! Sandi

    01/13/2012 01:55:17
    1. [GORIN] Find-A-Grave
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. I don't know if you've ever visited this site, but it's well worth your time. It's free and has millions of cemetery records. The majority has a photograph of the headstone, name of the cemetery and location; many include the parents' name, birth and death dates and sometimes family information. People can contribute, free of charge, also, photos of headstones and information. You can search for a specific cemetery or, as I did, search for a certain name or surname. I spent about 5 hours on the site today and pulled off all the Gorin data. It's possible to copy the photograph of the stone and save. It's not just for Gorin - every surname in the world is there. These are user contributed so not everyone you need will be there, but it's well worth a look! Here's the address: http://www.findagrave.com/ Sandi

    07/16/2011 02:22:05
    1. Re: [GORIN] John and Glad(d)in Gorin
    2. Those are very old SAR applications they have released, for obvious privacy reasons. My approved SAR application through Henry Gorin (2003) should settle the matter. Better still, I have additional documentation in my Sons of the Revolution (SR) approved application which was a few years later.

    07/08/2011 03:39:35
    1. [GORIN] John and Glad(d)in Gorin
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. Ancestry.com just released "U.S. Compiled Service Records, Post-Revolutionary War Volunteer Soldiers 1784-1811. Both Gladin and John are shown - just one card for each, both in 1793. Gladdin Gorin, Russell's Regiment, Cav'y, Kentucky Volunteers. Private. John Gorin, Same unit, Sergt. Major I haven't found Henry yet as the middle brother, but this ties Gladin (the youngest) and John (the oldest) together more and adds a little more military to them and has them here one year after statehood. Ancestry.com has also released MANY SAR papers. There are a lot on our Gorin clan there, but doggone it, they didn't put the print function on the page - nothing works, comes out just a blank page. It will take me a long time but eventually I'll go through every one of them because it gives a lot of information. I did read through the one for Henry Gorin that started the whole mess of him being the son of his own brother John and adding another ??? generation which didn't exist - and which is still confusing family members and being taken as Gospel proof on many family trees on the web. How they didn't catch the error I don't know; I don't think John, who was five years old married and had Henry!!! Always looking when I can - Sandi

    07/08/2011 12:27:15
    1. [GORIN] New data
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. I haven't had much time to do any researching since my Mom's death, but did find a few new things. The following is from ancestry.com and are photocopies of the U. S. Navy Muster Rolls. The following Gorin's are listed: Charles Perry Gorin (Gladin line), service # 582-86-35, rank of S2nd Class, V65. 22 March 1946, on USS Stevens from San Pedro VA to San Diego CA Henry Jerome Gorin (Henry line - many entries). Service # 387-12-04, ran of S1/c (RM). 31 May 1945 on USS L.S.T. 654.Shown as passenger from C.O. Waipio Op. Base, F.F.T. Navy #926 Robert Bartley Gorin (Henry line): Service #564-53-96. Rank undetermined; ink too heavy - looks like Mo3c. Date of enrollment 13 Nov 1942 at Los Angeles, VA. 30 Sept 1944 on USS Bluefish. Also list dated 23 Nov 1943 on USS Gar from Mars Island CA to the High Seas. Same service #, rank TM3/c. Enrolled 13 Nov 1942 in Los Angeles, CA. Transferred on 22 Nov 1943 to the USS Tambor. ' Paul Taylor Gorin (Gladin), list dated 2 Aug 1943 (date of sailing), on the USS Chaumont - Passenger. Service #867-21-67. Rank: Cm3e If there are any Navy men on the list - could you explain the naval ranks shown above - I know the other branches, but not the Navy! I know that S 2/c etc means Seaman 2nd class ... Sandi

    05/27/2011 02:00:00
    1. [GORIN] My mother's passing
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. I just wanted to let you all know that my beloved mother, Mabel G. "Gwen" Laughery died yesterday at the Glasgow Health & Rehab Center here in Glasgow. She had been doing so well for the past nine months when suddenly she had a stroke Thursday before last. It occurred in the area of the brain that effects speech and swallowing. After 3 days in the hospital, she was sent back to the nursing home where she lived for nine days without food, water or IV (the latter was building up toxins in her system and swelling her arms and legs). She was in and out of a coma state for those days, but got to hear Kris, Shelley and her brother Norman on the phone - and recognized them. Sunday she lapsed into a deep coma and passed away yesterday morning at age 95. Funeral services are being held at Hatcher and Saddler Funeral Home (hatchersaddler.com) tomorrow morning at 11 with a Memorial service later. Shelley is nearby sleeping after driving over 16 hours in all the storms from MN. Her precious fiance came with her. Kris and Bill are unable to come down for the burial service but will be here for the Memorial Service. My mom, Mabel "Gwen" Laughery was a precious lady and I was blessed to have her for a long time. She was a strong believer in the Lord and I know she is safe with Him, my baby brother, my Dad and other precious family members whom I've lost. Sandi

    04/26/2011 04:29:52
    1. [GORIN] AN UPDATE
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. I apologize for being so tardy in posting to this list ... life has been catching up with me as I help my Mom in the nursing home plus miscellaneous demands. I wanted to tell you about a few things though. I get so little time to work on the Gorin family tree but once in awhile! First: I've been hunting for well over 30 years to find a photograph of Miss Annie Gorin; youngest daughter of Franklin Gorin (Mammoth Cave). When I represented Annie last summer in the cemetery program at Glasgow Municipal, all we had was one faded picture of her with accompanied her obituary. Yesterday, a picture was found, dated 1946 (after her death) showing her as a much younger woman and a notation that she also taught piano and music at Glasgow High School - which no one knew. If I was 30 years younger, I'd done handstands. Then, last night I received a notice from ancestry.com that they had released more Civil War records. I did a search for Gorin and found a series of them entitled "Consolidated List of All Persons, of Class II, subject to do military duty in the First Congregational District in the State of ___ (several states). Dated in 1863. Now, not all these fellows actually served, but they were drafted according to the records. I found the following, all ours.: Dr. William Henry Gorin (Fishing Well Precinct, MO) James W. Gorin, lawyer, Barren Co. Marcellus Gladin Gorin (Rev) of St. Louis. - he did serve Sanford Pell Gorin Bartley William Gorin Jr. of Louisiana, MO George G. Gorin of Litchfield, IL. Rowin [sic} Gorin of Barren Co KY and a confusing one: Gladin Gorin, Grocer, St Louis, born CT. Now - he's ours, but he was not born in CT! So there is an error there. While I have some spare time this weekend I want to do more snooping around. I was particularly excited to find Rowan Gorin who disappears early, and our own Bartley William Gorin Jr. who died in 1866. I hope you are all well - Sandi

    04/08/2011 02:42:38
    1. [GORIN] Finally, an update
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. I apologize that it has been months since I last wrote to the list. Life catches up on one often, doesn't it? My Mom has been back in the hospital twice and is a nursing home now, but at 95, is fighting to get back home. And, I think she will make it. I have had little time to work on anything Gorin for some time I've been blessed with 3 large library orders for my books and have published about 15 new books, primarily on south central KY. But, I wanted to share something I wish you could have seen and heard. Tiring but a lot of fun. The South Central KY Cultural Center (which is a combination museum and a repository for all of the historical and genealogical books and files) sponsored the first Heritage of History, a 2-night program. It was unusual in that it was held, at night, at the Glasgow Municipal Cemetery. There were 9 presenters; each representing 9 famous former citizens who are buried there. I was chosen to represent Miss Annie Gorin, daughter of Franklin Gorin and his 3rd wife, Deborah Putnam Gorin, granddaughter of John and Elizabeth Franklin Gorin, founders of Glasgow. We dressed in period costumes and if I had to wear that style of dress every day, I wouldn't have made it - a very long woolen blend with a full velvet underskirt and an attached jacket. Last night, it was 90 degrees ... and then it rained .. and lightning. The cemetery is quite large so we could really not see, after dark, any of the other presenters. They provided a chair, a cooler with water and snacks and a hanging lantern on the other side of a larger tombstone. The many paths were lit by luminaries to show the route - and last night, most of them were washed out. Annie Gorin is buried quite to the back of the cemetery on a knoll so I had a beautiful view of the entire cemetery. Each of us limited our speech to about 5 minutes and as the lightning intensified, the speeches shortened. There were 150 people who toured last night and 130 this evening (a very cool non-rainy night!). The other presenters had their speeches written for them after being provided with the facts; I did my own and didn't use notes. Miss Annie was a spinster lady and an accomplished musician. She taught piano and organ at Liberty College here, performed at the Glasgow Musicale and gave private lessons. I know her like the back of my hand. I blended humor, sadness, excitement and fact into my presentation and received a multitude of applause and compliments which made it worth it all. I always introduced myself first, who I was portraying and then made the presentation as if I were Miss Annie. I, of course, had to explain that Miss Annie was a proper Southern lady who spoke with a Midwestern accent! We were photographed, videotaped, interviewed and we were tired by the end of tonight's presentation. There is something awesome sitting in a cemetery at night with just the lights of the luminaries and an old lantern; it was not meant to be "Halloweenish". Golf carts picked up and delivered us and preceded and followed each tour group; also providing a ride for those who could not walk the entire cemetery. If you are involved with a historical or patriotic organization; this is a wonderful way to make history live. So, Miss Annie ... oops ... Sandi is calling it a day. I wish you could have been there to hear more about the early Gorin clan in Glasgow! Sandi Gorin Genealogical Publishing http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

    09/25/2010 04:45:06
    1. [GORIN] The Name Gorin
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. If you'd like to see something interesting go to: . http://www.publicprofiler.org/worldnames I checked on Gorin and found it quite interesting! Also, Gary - please give me a little more time to search for your question - I either have developed pleurisy or have an inflammation in the ribs on the left side. I've been in a lot of pain for a week today and the doctor can't decide which is causing it after the x-rays. I'm not doing much of anything and staying away from the computer much more! Sandi

    05/06/2010 05:24:00
    1. [GORIN] PLAYING A HUNCH
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. I know - I've been hiding for months, but I'm playing a hunch here. I just lost my subscription to ancestry.com ... rates high right now, economy low so I can't check a lot now. Anyway, someone sent me a query and I brought up my family tree and saw something I'd never noticed before (cleaned my bifocals and all!) For MANY years, the family has been trying to figure out where the first and/or middle name of Bartley came from that is used in our live from 1808 down to the current generation. Good old Henry Gorin married Sarah Pell - "our" line. They had a daughter Nancy who was born 8 January 1783 in either Fairfax Co VA or in KY (uncertain when the family moved but think they were in KY). She married on 27 September 1810 one George POLLOCK in Christian Co KY where Henry and Sarah had settled after going from Barren Co to Warren Co and then to Christian Co KY. George was born 17 August 1786 in Montgomery TN, the son of BARKLEY WILLIAM or WILLIAM BARKLEY POLLOCK (shown both ways) and Violetta S. NEVILL(E). Now - Henry and Sarah also had a son John Darns Gorin. John D was born 26 April 1790 - seven years younger than his sister Nancy. John D. was also born in Christian Co KY. The Pollock family was all in Christian Co KY at the same time (except George's father). Well, John D. had a son BARTLEY WILLIAM or WILLIAM BARTLEY Gorin born 16 Dec 1808 in Christian Co. His name is shown both ways on the old records. NOW - our Bartley, who was a physician, attended Transylvania University in KY. Many years ago, I wrote them to see if they had any records on Bartley. The only thing they had was his matriculation card where his name was shown as BARCLAY William Gorin.In the family Bible, tombstone, etc. he is always Bartley ... but isn't it interesting that the names are so close? There were no marriage ties that have been ever found, either in VA or in KY connecting a Bartley family with a Gorin family.. Barkley William died in Montgomery Co TN about 1808, the same year Bartley William/ William Bartley was born in Christian Co KY and where his sister Nancy married George Pollock in 1810. I know this marriage was 2 years after our Bartley was born - but could the families have been friends prior to this time and Henry knew Barkley Pollock? Montgomery Co TN is a border county with KY, right under the Christian/Todd Co KY area; and the next county over is Stewart Co TN where Henry Gorin's brother moved a few years later. Is it a coincidence? Thoughts appreciated!! Sandi Gorin Genealogical Publishing http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

    04/23/2010 11:33:31
    1. [GORIN] A story about Bell's Tavern
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. Really, I'm still here - just been sort of busy - taking care of my Mom and helping my daughter Kris and her hubby move from KY to northern OH. And, publishing books and trying to earn a living! The following article is interesting. Bell's Tavern was in now Park City KY (then known as Glasgow Junction) and owned by William BELL His son, Robert Slaughter Bell was married to Maria Louisa GORIN, daughter of Franklin Gorin who owned Mammoth Cave early. Glasgow Weekly Times – April 5, 1893 Old Bell Tavern Picturesque Ruins of That Noted Tavern at Glasgow Junction An Interesting Story of Adventure From Early Kentucky History About twenty-four miles from Bowling Green, at Glasgow Junction, on the old Louisville and Nashville turnpike, there once stood a famous house, known as Bell’s Tavern. Nothing but rugged ruins of stone slowly crumbling in a spacious yard, thickly set with venerable trees, now remains of that celebrated stage stand. What famous people have gathered about the great log fire in the main sitting room of Bell’s Tavern! Henry Clay entertained many a company there, and Tom Marshall, half full of liquor, and wholly full of wit and eloquence, was a frequent guest. In those days the stagecoach, in communities remote from waterways, was a great agent of civilization, and the Governor of the State, while might had been admired for his manly virtues, could not hope to rival the stage driver. The driver may have been a man of no education, may have been surly in disposition, and boorish in manner, but he was surely the greatest individual who stopped at Bell’s Tavern. The most noted driver was Jo Hatton. There was always a crowd to greet him when he arrived. People who were anxious to hear from the outside world would gather around the coach when it drew up and would ply Jo with questions, but he disdained any answer until he had gone into the bar room and taken a drink. There was no man too proud to take an handful of lines that Jo threw to him. It was an honor to catch the reins, and it was said, though I cannot vouch for the truth, that Henry Clay used to shove himself forward to discharge this enviable duty. One evening many years ago, a bright company was gathered about the famous fire-place. There was Henry Clay, who, having come from a great convention held at Nashville, had stopped to visit at the tavern before going on to his home, there was Tom Marshall, who was on his way to attend a murder trial in the Southern part of the State; and among the rest, and not an unimportant factor, either, was Miss Lavenia Moss, a niece of old man Bell, a girl who charmed Washington society with her beauty and wit. There was also present a young lawyer named Green, a devoted admirer of Miss Moss. “I wonder what can be keeping Jo Hatton so long this evening?” said old man Bell, “it is after eight, and he ought to have been here before seven.” Old Tom Marshall was dozing. The old fellow had indulged freely in apple brandy, and having poured out his eloquence, was now resting. Clay, to the annoyance of Green, was paying compliments to Miss Moss. “I am anxious to know what is going on,” said Bell, “I can’t get along without news.” The company ran out to the front gate. The night was cool and crisp and the echo of the horn rolled far down the valley. The young lawyer caught the lines when the stage drew up. “What’s the news?” they all began to cry. Jo did not answer, but leaping to the ground went into the bar-room. He was eagerly watched as he stood and stirred his hot toddy. Tom Marshall was now wide awake. “What’s the news below?” he asked. “Oh, noth’ of much account. I reckon you all heard about the Cogswll murder down yonder.” “Yes, we have heard of that, but we have not heard that the murderer has been caught.” ` “He hasn’t been. It was this ‘er way. This fellow Donnell – you all know him – lived down in this neighborhood and tended a crop of co’n for old man Munford last year. Well, you see, he went to live with his grandmother, old Mrs. Potter. She was as thrifty a old soul as ever lived, and after her husband’s death, she wanted Donnell to come down and live with her. Well, he hadn’t been there long when he found out some way that the old woman had a lot of gold, but he couldn’t find out where she kept it. Finally he discovered that she had it in an old stockin’ but to save him, he couldn’t find out what she did with it in the daytime. He worried along his way for some time, and at last determined to have that money whether or no; so one night while the old woman was asleep he went to her room and tried to get the stocking from under her head. She woke up and then he hit her on the head with the hammer. He got the money, but the old woman was not quite dead. No sir, she lived to tell who done the deed, and now the folks are looking for Donnell everywhere.” “Mr. Clay,” said young Green, “would you as a lawyer, defend such a man as that? “ “I must confess,” he continued, glancing at the beautiful girl, “that I fear I have too high an idea of justice to succeed at the rough and tumble practice of law. I don’t think I could defend such a fellow.” “I should not like to defend him,” said Clay, “and would not do it for money, but if I were appointed by the court I would do my best to clear him. The atrocity of the crime would be no weight in the face of my duty to obey the court. I once cleared a man who I knew to be a thief, but I was appointed by the court.” “And did the fellow prove his gratitude by becoming an honest man?” “No, I am glad to say he did not.” “Why, Mr. Clay, I am astonished at you. How can you rejoice in any one’s dishonesty?” “As a general thing, I cannot,” Clay replied, “but in this case I rejoice somewhat. You see, he went over into another county, several years afterward, and stole a horse. I happened to be prosecuting attorney then, and had the satisfaction of sending him to the penitentiary for ten years.” “Well,” said old Tom Marshall, “it is an easy matter for me to believe a man innocent when I need money. With me, a thief in need is sometimes a friend indeed.” A number of the neighbors came in after supper, and when Jo delivered himself of his budget of news and began to express his opinions, other people began to talk. So long as Jo devoted himself to the news there was a respectable silence on the part of the others, but when he began to pass an opinion, he immediately sank to his proper level, that of a commonplace and uneducated man. The evening was not very far spent when it was suggested by some of the neighborhood girls that they play some kind of game. Green, who was piqued and wanted to punish Miss Moss, remarked that “Forfeits” was the thing. They agreed and the game was begun. Green was fortunate and it soon became his time to pronounce sentence on the beauty. “What shall it be?”, she asked. “You must take a candle,” said Green. “and alone must go to every room in the house, and look for the time honored man under the bed.” “Oh, that is too hard, Mr. Green.” Clay and Marshall interceded for the girl, and suggested a lighter penalty, but Green would accept no compromise. “Go ahead,” said old man Bell to Lavinia, “there is nothing to hurt you.” Odd zounds,” he added with energy, “I didn’t think a person of the Bell blood was afraid of anything.” “I’ll go,” she said, taking up the lighted candle. “Must give us your word that you will look under every bed in the house,” Green demanded. “I will,” she answered as she passed out into the hall. Five minutes elapsed. Suddenly a terrific shriek startled them, and they heard hurried foot-steps coming down the stair-way; not the slippered feet that had ascended them a few moments ago, but the jarring jump of heavy boots. The men ran into the hallway just in time to encounter a man, a heavy-set fellow with black eyes. “It is Donnell, the murderer!” cried old man Bell. “Stand, or I will kill you!” The fellow was seized and bound hand and foot. By this time, the girl, deadly pale, came shrieking down the stairs. “Come, come,” said Bell, “it is all over and there’s no use being scared. Bring some brandy, Jo, she’ll be alright in a minute. Take good care of this fellow; lock him up in the cellar. On with him.” Mrs. Bell took charge of the trembling girl, and the men conducted the murderer to the cellar. Just as they were about to leave him on a pile of stones, there came the startling cry of “fire!” When the morning came, the once famous house was a heap of ruins. When the girl found the murderer under the bed, she dropped the candle on a pile of papers. Donnell’s charred bones were found in the cellar. That was many years ago and all the actors have passed away. Last week I saw some children playing about the ruins, and heard a little boy say: “Tie me an’ take me down there and play that I’m the murderer.” Sandi SCKY Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=south-central-kentucky Barren Co Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kybarren Sandi's Website: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html

    02/02/2010 03:18:06
    1. [GORIN] MY GREETINGS TO YOU!
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. Wishing you all the best - here's my greeting to you! Sandi Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! I would like to take this time just to wish you the very best and joyous Christmas season. Whether you celebrate Christmas or not, this is a time of the year to give thanks for all that we are blessed with and to remember family and friends. So many times both family and friends are many miles away; some people we will never have the opportunity to meet. We know each other by name or e-mail address. Some we are fortunate to meet over the years and a bond of friendship is established and cherished. Whether I’ve ever had the opportunity to meet you or not, I count you dear. Some of you have been with me through Maiser days – through Brian Leverich’s lists and long on rootsweb. I appreciate your sticking with me! It brings me great joy to help you and I hope along the way, I’ve helped a little So from my computer to yours (the best I can do!), Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays … Happy New Year and I hope in 2010 you’ll (pick one or more!) (1) find how that ancestor made it to America, (2) find where Uncle Joe is buried, (3) receive a package in the mail containing the old family Bible, (4) get that last piece of evidence so you can join the DAR or SAR, (5) get your office all cleaned up! My best, Sandi

    12/13/2009 04:37:12
    1. [GORIN] LET'S SAY THANKS
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. I'm sure many of you have seen this, but in case you haven't - please check out this website. Each year Xerox runs this program so we at home can say thank you to a solider serving for us. The cards were drawn by school children - you can pick a card, chose one of the prepared messages or I think create your own. When received XEROX prints off the cards and they are sent to our soldier boys and girls. They will be away from their families this Christmas and enjoy these cards so much. You can't pick an individual or branch of the military, but it doesn't matter - someone will get it who needs some encouragement. Just for me - send a card - there's no charge. Sandi http://www.letssaythanks.com/Home.html SCKY Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=south-central-kentucky Barren Co Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kybarren Sandi's Website: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html

    12/04/2009 11:29:09
    1. [GORIN] Grand, Gloomy & Peculiar
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. Amazon.com did me in on the above book - they never did notify me, and when I logged on, it said "out of print - limited edition." So I contacted a long time friend at the cave and she found me the site where it could be ordered, if you are interested. This is a very legit organization; I know "Tank" Gorin was a long-time member: http://nssbookstore.org/index.php?mode=store&submode=search&searchfor=brucker&action=search With shipping, the book is $25.60 for hardback; they also have it in soft cover for a few dollars less. I can't wait! Take care, Sandi

    10/07/2009 04:50:57
    1. [GORIN] Grand, Gloomy, and Peculiar: Stephen Bishop at Mammoth Cave
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. Roger Brucker is a gifted author, a marvelous gentleman who I'm proud to call a friend. He was a close friend of our late kinsman, Tank Gorin who owned Cumberland Caverns in McMinnville TN. I first met Roger back in 1991 at the 50th anniversary of Mammoth Cave being named a national park and he and the historian there were the gentlemen responsible for arranging for my daughters and me to take a private tour of the cave where people have not trodden on tour for 30 some years. We were taken to Gorin's Dome and the Bottomless Pit - a thrill believe me and a hard trip, many times on hands and knees with just the lanterns on our hard hats to guide the way. Roger has written several non-fiction books dealing with Mammoth Cave - "The Longest Cave" and "The Cave Beyond" (the story of the world-famous Floyd Collins entrapment in Sand Cave) and others. About two years ago, I re-met Roger at a symposium at the Cave where I was speaking. He showed me the rough draft of "Grand, Gloomy, and Peculiar" - although the book was not yet named and he was seeking a publisher. At a program of our historical society this evening, Chuck DeCroix, a historian/ranger and long-time friend told me that the book was due for release in a month or so. And, in the parts I scanned from his master copy that evening - the Gorin family plays a big role. I didn't get to read in depth but I think he treated Franklin Gorin, owner, in a nice way! Stephen Bishop was a world-famous cave explorer and tour guide owned by Franklin Gorin who bought him from a Bishop family in Glasgow and took him to the cave. At 17 years of age, he rapidly became the darling of the tour guides - among the ladies - and greatly impressed the gentlemen too. He drew the oldest known map of Mammoth Cave and discovered Gorin's Dome and thousands of other sites within the now 300 plus miles of the cave. Stephen was educated by Franklin; spoke 3 languages, was a mulatto who claimed French background too (never proven). Franklin granted him his freedom when he sold the cave to the Croghan family, but Stephen wanted to stay with the cave. He had married, had children. He was freed by Croghan, remained at the cave and died one year after he became free. He worked longer in order to gain the freedom of his wife (owned by someone else) and children. This book is a novel but based on every bit of historical information Roger could have. We conferred on several items in the book. I thought some of you might be interested in the book. I went on Amazon.com and they will send me an email when the book is published - it's paperback and I don't know the cost. I can't wait! Sandi Col. Sandi Gorin - GORIN worldconnect website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~sgorin

    09/24/2009 03:50:57
    1. [GORIN] New family addition
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. It's been so long since I've had time to write, I feel like a stranger! As a quick update, Kris is doing marvelously well after her kidney transplant April 19th. Her blood count is perfect; she feels great and looks wonderful. My Mom is pretty well managing on her own again at age 94 (lives alone) and my help is basically doing the shopping, doing the laundry and minor things. I'm so very thankful. I just finished publishing my 352nd book on this area (and family books.) An update on the Gorin clan. Priscilla Leuenberger is the daughter of Rev. Samuel and Eleanor Gorin Leuenberger of Switzerland, granddaughter of Lewis Jefferson Gorin and Eleanor Fleming Gorin ... and on back to John and Elizabeth Franklin Gorin. She is a lovely and beautiful young lady who speaks 3 languages. She married on 25 August 2007 Jim Romero in Gerzensee Switzerland - he is a wonderful man. On 30 August 2009, they welcomed John Lewis Romero who was born at NY-Presbyterian Hospital, Manhattan - a handsome chap! The baby is named for both of their grandfathers - James Romero and Lewis Jefferson Gorin Jr. I hope you are well! Sandi

    09/19/2009 01:02:18