This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BiZ.2ACIB/76.107.108.1 Message Board Post: My information about Desire Howland is her father was John Howland born in 1602 in Fen Stanton England his parents were Henry Howland and Alice Aires and his parents were John Howland and Emma Revell of Essex England Desire mother was Elizabeth Tilley whose parents were John Tilley of Henlow Bedford, England born Dec 19 1571 her mother Joan Hurst, Johns parents were Robert Tilley (tille) and Elizabeth and Roberts parents were William Tylle and Agnes Joans parents were William Hurst and Rose. John Gorhams father was Ralph Gorhamof Benefield, Northhampton, England Ralphs parents were James Gorham born in 1550 and Anges Bernington born 1553 James's parents were John Gorham b. abt 1518 and Eliza and his parents were John Gorham b. abt 1492 and Elena b.abt.1496. Hope this was some help that is as far back as my history goes. I understand from a cousin that our roots have a castle in England but don't know were. E-Mail me back if you need anymore info and I will see if I can help.