Joann, It has been a very long time since you and I have talked and whatever you'd have to say on the matter I would certainly take to the bank. What I was trying to explain was, that even in the early days (1700's) of Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee and North Carolina, just because someone would have the last name of GORDON didn't mean they were related by blood. A clan's name was little different than that of being called Apache, Creek, American, etc. Do you agree? AND...... even Septs weren't always related to one another. Making my point that even you and I, being descendants of Gordon's, are not necessarily related. Although I'd love to be related to you. *S* Ric P.S. I also have several TAYLOR's that I'm related to that are listed in my database.