I hope one of y'all has Mississippi Gordon's to link with mine. What I have to offer is: John T. Loftin b. 1845/GA m. Nan Gordon/1847/MS Her father may have been Jefferson Gordon. Both the Loftins/Loflins and Gordons lived in Calhoun Co., MS. Thank you. Ramona amona

Ethel, If your mom had a social security number, she probably got a "delayed birth certificate." I think you look for those in the state where the soc sec card was issued. If she is dead, you should be able to get a copy of her soc sec application. Margaret McCleskey, Arlington, TX Ethel S. wrote: > > Thanks, Lisa--I will investigate. My own mom was born in 1903 and had > none--may have been destroyed in the fire. All suggestions are welcomed. > Thanks, Ethel.

Hi Trish, thank you for your email. My gr.grandfather Thomas Jefferson Gordon b. abt. 1843/45 m. Lucrettia Bushnell in Louisiana abt. 1865. On the 1870 census for Calcasieu Parish, LA his birthplace is listed as Alabama. However, on the 1880 it is listed as LA. Word in our family says his folks migrated from the Carolinas. I tend to believe he came from Alabama. I have had some success on my gr.grandmother, Lucrettia Bushnell here in LA--yet find no trace of Thomas Jefferson Gordon's ancestors. All help is appreciated and taken seriously. Thanks, Ethel.

Ramona, I have Gordons from Mississippi, but they are Monroe County. Wade Hampton Gordon; Jesse Benton Gordon who m. Ozema Moreland. Ann Ramona Hamilton wrote: > I hope one of y'all has Mississippi Gordon's to link with mine. What I have to offer is: > John T. Loftin b. 1845/GA m. Nan Gordon/1847/MS Her father may have been Jefferson Gordon. Both the Loftins/Loflins and Gordons lived in Calhoun Co., MS. Thank you. Ramona > amona

Haven't seen this advertisement but the location is familiar. There is a company in Bath OH that has preyed on families and would-be genealogists for years. Most of their books are gleaned from phone books - basically a listing of all the "surname" in the phone books from around the country. A couple of years ago I received a notice that had a new twist - supposably an index of all the "surname" in the US Censuses. This might have been useful, but not enough to get me to release my $. Maybe the title "World Book" indicates that their listing extends outside the US. Bottom line: This is one of those ads that should bear the title "Let the Buyer Beware" Good Luck Mark

The New world book of Gordon's They sell books on a lot of names, they are mostly names and addresses of people alive now. We ordered one and it only tells you how to find Family history. It is like a phone book in the back with list of names and addresses.

I received literature today from Bath, OH, advertising a pending book entitled "The New World Book of Gordons". Has anyone else received this literature. Also, could this be the same Ohio branch of Gordon's that does not follow thru on things?

Ethel S. wrote: > > Thanks, Lisa--I will investigate. My own mom was born in 1903 and had > none--may have been destroyed in the fire. All suggestions are welcomed. > Thanks, Ethel. Hello Ethel If your mom was born in the South most Southern states did not issue birth certificates until 1913 when they were forced to by the federal government. The Southern people still believed in states rights regardless of loosing the War. The South was put through hell even after the War which only increased their recentment against the federal government. The South resisted all federal government intervention including such things as issuing birth certificates. Entries in family Bibles are accepted by the SSA as well as school records. I hope this helps. Harold

Thanks, Lisa--I will investigate. My own mom was born in 1903 and had none--may have been destroyed in the fire. All suggestions are welcomed. Thanks, Ethel.

Hello, Ethel, I 'm Trish Boehm, Gr. granddaughter of David Marion Gordon of Mont Gordon, Giles Co. Tennessee and Limestone Co. Alabama. When and where- possibly- do you believe your gr. grandfather was born? If either Giles, Tenn. or Limestone Co., Ala. rings a bell, I might be able to steer you in a more productive direction. Hope to be of assistance. [email protected]

Going to Baton Rouge State Archives is on my list. The 1910 court house fire in downtown Lake Charles covered almost a block, and unfortunately church records burned also. Immaculate Conception Cath. church was just down the block from the court house, and still is. A most magnificent structure. What would have really helped, would be an 1890 census, and of course we do not have that. So what you are suggesting is; try Alabama? Thomas Jefferson Gordon's est. dob is 1843/45. He married (abt. 1865) Lucrettia Bushnell, decendant of Ezra Bushnell, in LA. (no record of marriage), but I have all his decendants. First generation are all gone, and almost all the 2nd. He named his first 2 children, who died young: Thomas Samuel Gordon and James Gordon. I believe that is significant, and I try to follow that lead @ times. Thanks for your encouragement. Ethel.

Ethel-- What about children's birth certificate what does it say for father's birthplace?? Good Luck-- Lisa

Ethel --- I'd bet on Alabama, especially if they're given as abbreviations. It's easy enough to drop the "A" from Ala., resulting in La. Even 'tho your (county?) courthouse burned down, have you checked to see if the State Archives or Vital Records have any of the info? How about church records? -- Cheers, Jim Gordon, Laurel, MD USA "Ethel S." wrote: > > Doug, that is such good advice. I am printing it out and keeping it before > me as a guideline. I do have a problem in that I do not know where my > gr.grandfather Thomas Jefferson Gordon was born. One census says Alabama > (1870), but the 1880 census says LA. I can find no documents on him(birth, > death) as our courthouse burned in 1910. > However, I do think your suggestions are excellent. Ethel.

Doug, that is such good advice. I am printing it out and keeping it before me as a guideline. I do have a problem in that I do not know where my gr.grandfather Thomas Jefferson Gordon was born. One census says Alabama (1870), but the 1880 census says LA. I can find no documents on him(birth, death) as our courthouse burned in 1910. However, I do think your suggestions are excellent. Ethel.

I've been reading a lot of message lately about people being stuck on finding their ancestors prior to the mid or late 1800's or even 1900's. I thought that I'd briefly share my experience on how to go about this, and possibly get some of you unstuck. Basically, I consider that there are three major source categories for genealogical data: 1) Published material that is available on the Internet, at public libraries, or from book stores and other similar sources. These may be genealogy related, or just general history texts, but basicall they are sources that you can obtain at home or locally (such as CD-ROMs with census records, etc.). 2) Other researchers that have worked on the same ancestors. These are the real gold mines if you happen to strike one by finding someone (usually via the Internet these days) that has a common ancestor and is willing to share their work. 3) Material that is only available at the original source, such as microfilm kept at historical museums, courthouses, state archives, universities, etc. The problem is only a tiny fraction of the total information out there about your ancestors is available from source type #1. Yes, there is way more than there used to be, but it is still slim pickings. For example, a CD-ROM might be advertised as having "selected marriages" from some subset of Kentucky counties for 1800-1850. In reality, it probably has about 5% of the total marriages for that area and period. Source type #2 is encountered mainly by luck. Actually, the farther back you can trace your family, the more likely it is that you will find a fellow researcher. In my case, I am one of the last remaining branches of the family going back about 5 generations, but when I finally worked it back to the East Jersey Colony of the early 1700's, I suddenly found information about quite a number of my ancestors and was contacted by several descendants of these other branches. I'm afraid that the only way to really get a lot of information is to go after sources of type #3, which is to say that it requires time and travel. For years I thought that there was nothing to learn about my g-g-g-grandfather in Mason Co., KY, but in only two days time in the Mason Co. Historical Museum and surrounding area I found an amazing number of facts: court orders, deeds, wills, etc. I not only filled in a lot of missing genealogical information, but also learned a lot about the details of his life. I may even be able to locate where his house was built in 1799. So, my point is that there may be more information "out there" about your ancestors than you realize. It may even be more easily obtained than you think. The challenge is to find where it is, and that can only be done through a lot of legwork. Keep checking the catalogs, e-mail lists, and web sites, but also try to find a way to make a trip to your ancestors' home territories. It should be worth it. -- Doug Gordon http://pages.prodigy.net/gordondjc/gordon.htm

----- Original Message ----- From: Alan & Sharon O'Neill <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 10:05 PM Subject: Re: GORDON-D Digest V99 #121 > Yes, my Gordon family settled in Morpeth NSW > > Sharon O'Neill WA > -----Original Message----- > From: Kinder Family <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, 6 July 1999 4:52 PM > Subject: Re: GORDON-D Digest V99 #121 > > > >Did any come to Australia! > > > >Judith > > > >Ethel S. wrote: > > > >> They all came to America!!Ethel. Australia calling.One settled in Ocean Shores <NSW Mike > > > > >

Well I have been following the thread for a couple of days now and feel it is time to add my little bit. I cannot find my Gordon and she is in the heart of Gordon country in Aberdeenshire Scotland. Strictly speaking this is not true, I have found Jean, in fact two of them, both born six months apart at Glenmuick, Aberdeenshire in 1782. My question is does anyone know how to find out which one is yours. Sharon in Oz

We seem to be in the same boat Carol. My John C. Gordon came from Roscommon to Boston, and married Mary O'Malley. I just recently found out that his brother came over with him and settled in the city next to us. Tom Boston

I have a John Gordon b. Ballymena Co. Antrim who came to Queensland Australia 1856. I have a copy of a part article written by Phillip Crossle, a local historian in the early 1900's, the article refers to the Gordons from Ballymena but I believe the book is called " Gordons in Ireland " by Phillip Crossle and is avail on fiche at LDS Ref: FHL BRITISH Film 100219 Items 2-3 Cheers Tina Cairns Far North Queensland Australia Gordon/McMillan/Blinco/ Luck/Stanley in Queensland

Were any of your GORDON relatives in and around Conway Co., Ark.? Two brothers of my ancestor (Jesse M. GORDON) moved there. One, James GORDON, m. Nancy TOMLINSON, and the other, William GORDON, m. Jane CAMPBELL. James lived in Lauderdale Co., Ala. before moving to Arkansas while William's family left Maury Co., Tenn. for Arkansas. These GORDONs came from Orange Co., N.C., and before there probably in Maryland. An elderly aunt born in 1880 and descended from William's son, Hiram Campbell GORDON, said her father was cousin to Gen. John Brown GORDON of Georgia, C.S.A. Dora Gordon Whisenant At 10:53 AM 7/6/99 -0500, you wrote: I have never, ever found anything on my GORDON name in the 5 years I've been researching. My grandfather .............married my grandmother in Arkansas in 1924 and then moved to Chicago, there is absolutely nothing on him. >Harry John GORDON m. Lola Agnes LEAKE - >Carol Gordon Papke >[email protected] > > > >[email protected] wrote: > >> Also count your blessings. It seems as if I'm the only GORDON from Roscommon >