John, It's a good tip for new starters not to use abbreviations, since Geo Coding will not work, I am slowly working through my 47,000+ places. You should find if you operate a system of doing this your Database size should also be reduced since places are amalgamated in most data structures. I am still using Chapman codes for quickness in finding BMD registrations, mainly because my database contains some 77,000+ names. However I change to full places when I find a BMD full record. For interest I have 4,262 Names contain John's and not one Coldwell:-) Paul (2627) On 11/3/17 09:01 AM, John Keith Coldwell wrote: > Andy > The difficulty with the Wortley place name is that there is the > District by Penistone and the suburb of Leeds. Both West Riding unless > recent references. Maybe if it refers to the district then it could be > named Wortley District (which is definitive and can be looked up on a > website) and if the village: Wortley, Penistone, YWR or if the suburb > Wortley, Leeds YWR. There may be other Wortley places... > As it happens I was at school in Penistone and used to do winter time > cross country runs in the snow around Wortley. > Is the answer to adopt a standard glossary of places eg Ancestry.com > although I would not offer to go back and change the thousends of > names in my database. > John > > On 11 March 2017 at 07:21, Andy Micklethwaite <andy.mick@googlemail.com> wrote: >> Thanks for explaining it, Paul. It's on my to-do list - which is getting longer, not shorter! >> >> Any thoughts on which would be better: >> - Wortley Yorkshire >> - Wortley WRY >> >> Andy >> >> At 01:07 11/03/2017, you wrote: >>> I think Marie, is trying to get across to those with web sites, or any form of database, that it is important to make sure that you put place names in full, otherwise you are putting yourself in grave jeopardy of misleading those looking at the information you are recording. >>> >>> >>> Paul >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? >> http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I have got hopelessly inconsistent with my place names, and it is on my list to gradually go through all and replace with unabbreviated names. One thing I do wonder about is whether I should be adding in "county" (or similar terms) to parts of addresses. For example Wexford, Wexford, Ireland, or Wexford, County Wexford, Ireland? I've also generally avoided putting in street or house addresses to the general address fields, preferring to keep them within the notes field, so for example my birthplace would be Shipston-on-Stour, Warwickshire, England, rather than Eileen Badger Memorial Hospital, etc... I feel this makes the index more easily searchable, even if it does lose a bit of detail, and gets around the issue of not knowing whether to put for example the home address or the hospital address for a birth or death (or how to put both in a single field). Corinne Curtis #5579 On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 9:15 AM, W. Paul Featherstone <wpaulf@gmail.com> wrote: > John, > > It's a good tip for new starters not to use abbreviations, since Geo Coding > will not work, I am slowly working through my 47,000+ places. You should > find if you operate a system of doing this your Database size should also be > reduced since places are amalgamated in most data structures. > > I am still using Chapman codes for quickness in finding BMD registrations, > mainly because my database contains some 77,000+ names. However I change to > full places when I find a BMD full record. > > For interest I have 4,262 Names contain John's and not one Coldwell:-) > > > Paul (2627) > > > > On 11/3/17 09:01 AM, John Keith Coldwell wrote: >> >> Andy >> The difficulty with the Wortley place name is that there is the >> District by Penistone and the suburb of Leeds. Both West Riding unless >> recent references. Maybe if it refers to the district then it could be >> named Wortley District (which is definitive and can be looked up on a >> website) and if the village: Wortley, Penistone, YWR or if the suburb >> Wortley, Leeds YWR. There may be other Wortley places... >> As it happens I was at school in Penistone and used to do winter time >> cross country runs in the snow around Wortley. >> Is the answer to adopt a standard glossary of places eg Ancestry.com >> although I would not offer to go back and change the thousends of >> names in my database. >> John >> >> On 11 March 2017 at 07:21, Andy Micklethwaite <andy.mick@googlemail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for explaining it, Paul. It's on my to-do list - which is getting >>> longer, not shorter! >>> >>> Any thoughts on which would be better: >>> - Wortley Yorkshire >>> - Wortley WRY >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> At 01:07 11/03/2017, you wrote: >>>> >>>> I think Marie, is trying to get across to those with web sites, or any >>>> form of database, that it is important to make sure that you put place names >>>> in full, otherwise you are putting yourself in grave jeopardy of misleading >>>> those looking at the information you are recording. >>>> >>>> >>>> Paul >>> >>> _____________________________________________ >>> >>> RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? >>> http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >>> the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? > http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Corinne my tip would be to enter all the details you can, It is interesting that a lot of Software, collects the first part in a different location from the rest of the address, Which is why I am still using The Master Genealogist.:-( Paul 2627 On 11/3/17 09:48 AM, Corinne Curtis wrote: > I have got hopelessly inconsistent with my place names, and it is on > my list to gradually go through all and replace with unabbreviated > names. One thing I do wonder about is whether I should be adding in > "county" (or similar terms) to parts of addresses. For example > Wexford, Wexford, Ireland, or Wexford, County Wexford, Ireland? > I've also generally avoided putting in street or house addresses to > the general address fields, preferring to keep them within the notes > field, so for example my birthplace would be Shipston-on-Stour, > Warwickshire, England, rather than Eileen Badger Memorial Hospital, > etc... I feel this makes the index more easily searchable, even if it > does lose a bit of detail, and gets around the issue of not knowing > whether to put for example the home address or the hospital address > for a birth or death (or how to put both in a single field). > > Corinne Curtis #5579 > > On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 9:15 AM, W. Paul Featherstone <wpaulf@gmail.com> wrote: >> John, >> >> It's a good tip for new starters not to use abbreviations, since Geo Coding >> will not work, I am slowly working through my 47,000+ places. You should >> find if you operate a system of doing this your Database size should also be >> reduced since places are amalgamated in most data structures. >> >> I am still using Chapman codes for quickness in finding BMD registrations, >> mainly because my database contains some 77,000+ names. However I change to >> full places when I find a BMD full record. >> >> For interest I have 4,262 Names contain John's and not one Coldwell:-) >> >> >> Paul (2627) >> >> >> >>