And Tim you have forgotten "Registration Counties" which the GRO invented, and are used in the 19th Century census returns as well as in the Civil Registration system. As I have said in my reply to John's OP, RDs often include parishes for more than one county in them - two is very common (as with Kington RD which has parts of HEF and RAD in it - so both ENG and WLS), there are many with three, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are some with four - although I don't recall any? Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Treeby" <treeby@ttenterprises.co.uk> To: <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [G] Place Names Just to repeat so no one is in any doubt. the "Historic County" Boundaries WERE NOT CHANGED in 1974. What was changed was the "Administrative County" Boundary. So Bath is still in the "Historic County" of Somerset as it always has been. But yes will of moved from the "Administrative County" of Somerset to the "Administrative County" of Avon to the "Administrative County" of Bath & North East Somerset. So when applying the term "County" need to be absolutely sure if talking about an "Historic County" or an "Administrative County". So where records are to be found could depend on which "Administrative County" a particular place was in at a certain time. But it will still never of moved from the "Historic County". So when doing recording of places need to be sure if you are referring to the "Historic" or the "Administrative" County. I suspect that most of us use the "Historic County" when recording the places. Except possibly for London. As the "Administrative County" of London is made up of parts of Middlesex,Surrey,Kent,Essex etc and it's Boundaries constantly change. But is constituent parts are still within the old "Historic Counties" Tim Treeby. On 11/03/2017 14:00, Roger Goacher wrote: > Like it Ken. > > But hey, there is no 'right' way. We are researching as a hobby not, > usually, as some academic exercise. Do what suits you. I almost > always use Chapman codes, State and Province codes. Why not? I know > what they mean, and don't get confused. > > My wife was born in Bath, Somerset UK. We married in Bath, Avon UK, > and my in-laws subsequently died in Bath, BANES (Bath and North East > Somerset) UK. All the same place; different times; different > designations. My records show, for all four events on UK exclusive > tree, 'Bath SOM' - suits me. > > Roger Goacher > Researching the surname Goacher & variants anytime anywhere > www.goacher.org > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _____________________________________________ RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Was trying to keep it as simple as possible without adding the confusion of a Third type of "County". Which is why I recommend that everyone looks at http://www.gazetteer.org.uk/index.php (When dealing with UK place names) and reads the section labelled Notes for Historians, which explains it all a lot better then I can. Tim. On 11/03/2017 17:30, Polly Rubery wrote: > And Tim you have forgotten "Registration Counties" which the GRO invented, > and are used in the 19th Century census returns as well as in the Civil > Registration system. As I have said in my reply to John's OP, RDs often > include parishes for more than one county in them - two is very common (as > with Kington RD which has parts of HEF and RAD in it - so both ENG and WLS), > there are many with three, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are some > with four - although I don't recall any? > Polly > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Treeby"<treeby@ttenterprises.co.uk> > To:<goons@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 4:16 PM > Subject: Re: [G] Place Names > > > Just to repeat so no one is in any doubt. > > the "Historic County" Boundaries WERE NOT CHANGED in 1974. > What was changed was the "Administrative County" Boundary. > > So Bath is still in the "Historic County" of Somerset as it always has been. > > But yes will of moved from the "Administrative County" of Somerset to > the "Administrative County" of Avon to the "Administrative County" of > Bath& North East Somerset. > > So when applying the term "County" need to be absolutely sure if talking > about an "Historic County" or an "Administrative County". > So where records are to be found could depend on which "Administrative > County" a particular place was in at a certain time. But it will still > never of moved from the "Historic County". > > So when doing recording of places need to be sure if you are referring > to the "Historic" or the "Administrative" County. > > I suspect that most of us use the "Historic County" when recording the > places. Except possibly for London. > As the "Administrative County" of London is made up of parts of > Middlesex,Surrey,Kent,Essex etc and it's Boundaries constantly change. > But is constituent parts are still within the old "Historic Counties" > > Tim Treeby. > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus