John If you were not offered the option then I would suspect that the certificate that you were trying to order did not fall within the range as mentioned in Wendy's original email - that is England and Wales records which are available as PDF's in pilot 3 include: Births: 1935-2006 Deaths: 1958-2006 Marriages: 1837-2010 Regards John Hanson, researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: GOONS [mailto:goons-bounces+john.hanson=one-name.org@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Commins Sent: 17 March 2017 19:58 To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G] PDF Pilot phase 3 of the England & Wales certificate ordering system Typical GRO .they have said that the PDF trial is in operation , but have not put any way of ordering them on line , when I asked this morning I was told that if you filled in the certificate form then you would be redirected to it. no it does not work , and they have shut the phone lines down all day, why do they not have someone who at least has working knowledge of how to check this out before it went live , we had the same problem on phase one On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Sherlock Holmes <grimason@kinect.co.nz> wrote: > Hi, > Re the latest Trail. > Reading between the lines I suspect long term wise the PDF trail as > such may leed to a more semi permanent service, what I mean by semi > permanent is, what is not digitized will become digitized as each one is ordered. > Logically this indicates that what will in practice happen and is a > logical progression is that any certificate that is not digitized will > cost £8, however once it has been ordered it then becomes digitized > and any subsequent order for the same certificate would then cost £6. > This being the case long term wise this means all indexed BMD events > will become digitized. > The only downside will be if you happen to be the first one to order > the certificate you would be paying £2 for the actual digitizing. > > Regards, > David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) > Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of > the "Grimason" surname World Wide. > A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies > (GOONS): 6138 formerly 2962 The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family > according to some. > > > On 18/03/2017 3:21 AM, Tim Treeby wrote: >> >> The reason phase 1 was £6 and indexed is because that is the records >> that had already been digitised. >> The £8 is for those records that have not already been digitised. >> >> So assuming they roll it out as a full service after the Trials then >> you will have up to 5 options. >> >> 1) Get Certificate in post as now cost £9.25 >> 2) Priority Certificate in post as now cost £23.40 >> 3) PDF of Birth or Death from digitised records (Births 1837-1934, >> Deaths 1837-1957) cost £6 - Phase 1 Trial >> 4) Priority PDF cost £45 - Phase 2 Trial >> 5) PDF of Birth/Death/Marriage of non digitised records (Births >> 1935-2006, Deaths 1958-2006, Marriages 1837-2010) Cost £8 - Phase 3 >> Trial >> >> So Phase 3 will still be cheaper than Certificate and also as >> emailed, if live outside of UK, will get details quicker than if posted. >> >> Tim Treeby >> GOONS : 7112 >> >> On 17/03/2017 14:04, michael@anstey-history.info wrote: >>> >>> >>> Is it me? but I don't see this as a great forward step compared with >>> status quo. >>> >>> Pdf fee is now £8 rather than the £6 in earlier phase and therefore >>> only marginally cheaper that a full (legal) certificate. >>> >>> No new indexing has been created (perhaps supplying exact spouse) so >>> need the current GRO indexes (FreeBMD etc) to provide the full reference. >>> >>> What have other members found? >>> >>> Michael Tedd (329) >>> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? > http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

All the marriage certs I want all fall in that date range so where is the problem On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 10:49 PM, John Hanson <john.hanson@one-name.org> wrote: > John > If you were not offered the option then I would suspect that the certificate that you were trying to order did not fall within the range as mentioned in Wendy's original email - that is > > England and Wales records which are available as PDF's in pilot 3 include: > Births: 1935-2006 > Deaths: 1958-2006 > Marriages: 1837-2010 > > Regards > John Hanson, researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: GOONS [mailto:goons-bounces+john.hanson=one-name.org@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Commins > Sent: 17 March 2017 19:58 > To: goons@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [G] PDF Pilot phase 3 of the England & Wales certificate ordering system > > Typical GRO .they have said that the PDF trial is in operation , but have not put any way of ordering them on line , when I asked this morning I was told that if you filled in the certificate form then you would be redirected to it. no it does not work , and they have shut the phone lines down all day, why do they not have someone who at least has working knowledge of how to check this out before it went live , we had the same problem on phase one > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Sherlock Holmes <grimason@kinect.co.nz> wrote: >> Hi, >> Re the latest Trail. >> Reading between the lines I suspect long term wise the PDF trail as >> such may leed to a more semi permanent service, what I mean by semi >> permanent is, what is not digitized will become digitized as each one is ordered. >> Logically this indicates that what will in practice happen and is a >> logical progression is that any certificate that is not digitized will >> cost £8, however once it has been ordered it then becomes digitized >> and any subsequent order for the same certificate would then cost £6. >> This being the case long term wise this means all indexed BMD events >> will become digitized. >> The only downside will be if you happen to be the first one to order >> the certificate you would be paying £2 for the actual digitizing. >> >> Regards, >> David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) >> Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of >> the "Grimason" surname World Wide. >> A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies >> (GOONS): 6138 formerly 2962 The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family >> according to some. >> >> >> On 18/03/2017 3:21 AM, Tim Treeby wrote: >>> >>> The reason phase 1 was £6 and indexed is because that is the records >>> that had already been digitised. >>> The £8 is for those records that have not already been digitised. >>> >>> So assuming they roll it out as a full service after the Trials then >>> you will have up to 5 options. >>> >>> 1) Get Certificate in post as now cost £9.25 >>> 2) Priority Certificate in post as now cost £23.40 >>> 3) PDF of Birth or Death from digitised records (Births 1837-1934, >>> Deaths 1837-1957) cost £6 - Phase 1 Trial >>> 4) Priority PDF cost £45 - Phase 2 Trial >>> 5) PDF of Birth/Death/Marriage of non digitised records (Births >>> 1935-2006, Deaths 1958-2006, Marriages 1837-2010) Cost £8 - Phase 3 >>> Trial >>> >>> So Phase 3 will still be cheaper than Certificate and also as >>> emailed, if live outside of UK, will get details quicker than if posted. >>> >>> Tim Treeby >>> GOONS : 7112 >>> >>> On 17/03/2017 14:04, michael@anstey-history.info wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Is it me? but I don't see this as a great forward step compared with >>>> status quo. >>>> >>>> Pdf fee is now £8 rather than the £6 in earlier phase and therefore >>>> only marginally cheaper that a full (legal) certificate. >>>> >>>> No new indexing has been created (perhaps supplying exact spouse) so >>>> need the current GRO indexes (FreeBMD etc) to provide the full reference. >>>> >>>> What have other members found? >>>> >>>> Michael Tedd (329) >>>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >> >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? >> http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? 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Can someone just clarify for me how you get to marriages happening between 2006 and 2010? I thought all electronic indexes being available stopped at 2006/7. And they are not available on the GRO website, that is for sure. Brian -----Original Message----- From: GOONS [mailto:goons-bounces+bps=norvic8.force9.co.uk@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Hanson Sent: 17 March 2017 22:49 To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G] PDF Pilot phase 3 of the England & Wales certificate ordering system John If you were not offered the option then I would suspect that the certificate that you were trying to order did not fall within the range as mentioned in Wendy's original email - that is England and Wales records which are available as PDF's in pilot 3 include: Births: 1935-2006 Deaths: 1958-2006 Marriages: 1837-2010 Regards John Hanson, researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk

Brian I presume you have the details, from one of the places in the country that hold them? Paul 2627 On 18/3/17 06:04 AM, Brian Swann wrote: > Can someone just clarify for me how you get to marriages happening between 2006 and 2010? > > I thought all electronic indexes being available stopped at 2006/7. And they are not available on the GRO website, that is for sure. > > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: GOONS [mailto:goons-bounces+bps=norvic8.force9.co.uk@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Hanson > Sent: 17 March 2017 22:49 > To: goons@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [G] PDF Pilot phase 3 of the England & Wales certificate ordering system > > John > > If you were not offered the option then I would suspect that the certificate that you were trying to order did not fall within the range as mentioned in Wendy's original email - that is > > England and Wales records which are available as PDF's in pilot 3 include: > Births: 1935-2006 > Deaths: 1958-2006 > Marriages: 1837-2010 > > Regards > John Hanson, researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? > http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message