> From: Fíona Tipple via > Sent: 17 November 2014 16:01 > > What makes you think it might be Irish? It's not a surname I've ever > heard here (not that that proves anything!), and is not recorded as an > Irish surname by either MacLysaght or Woulfe. It's not in the Irish > phone book either. > > It could be masking an Irish surname I suppose - MacLysaght mentions the > name (Mac) Culleton/Colleton, from Irish Mac Codlatain, which *might* > transmogrify itself into Culloden outside Ireland, but I doubt it. The 18th century occurrences of the name seem almost all to be in Ireland, and particularly Dublin. There are more parish register entries for Culloden in the Dublin records indexed on churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ than in all the English records on FamilySearch. But all of them are after 1750. There are two London foundling christenings in 1746 (it seems likely they were named for the battle on 16 Apr 1746) and a Fleet marriage in 1726. Valerie's tree on Ancestry has no documented Irish events before 1749. It looks to me as if this is the anglicisation of an Irish name by assimilation to a familiar word, but only after the 1746 battle had made it a common word in English. Plotting the distributions of Colleton and Culloden in the Tithe Applotments (via http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/) Culloden appears on the fringes of the Colleton distribution, though the Dublin Cullodens don't appear in that survey (it only covered some agricultural labourers). So I think Fiona's hypothesis of Colleton as the origin might well be correct, but it would take more evidence to be certain. Best wishes Andrew -- Andrew Millard - A.R.Millard@durham.ac.uk Chair, Trustees of Genuki: www.genuki.org.uk Maintainer, Genuki Middx + London: www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/MDX/ + ../LND/ Academic Co-ordinator, Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Bodimeade one-name study: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/Bodimeade/ My genealogy: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/

Andrew, > > It looks to me as if this is the anglicisation of an Irish name by assimilation to a familiar word, but only after the 1746 battle had made it a common word in English. Plotting the distributions of Colleton and Culloden in the Tithe Applotments (via http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/) Culloden appears on the fringes of the Colleton distribution, though the Dublin Cullodens don't appear in that survey (it only covered some agricultural labourers). > The Tithe Applotment Books didn’t just cover agricultural labourers, it covered occupiers - whatever their walk in life - of any *agricultural land* that was liable to tithe (some was exempt). That’s why there aren’t any assessments for large towns and cities, though there are for some country towns - Nenagh in county Tipperary springs to mind. Thanks for following up on Colleton - I only threw it out as a suggestion. Might be interesting to follow up … are you listening, Valerie? Fiona

Yes I am and will reply when I am home. Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fíona Tipple via Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2014 10:54 PM To: MILLARD A.R.; goons@rootsweb.com list Subject: Re: [G] Ireland surname question - CULLODEN Andrew, > > It looks to me as if this is the anglicisation of an Irish name by assimilation to a familiar word, but only after the 1746 battle had made it a common word in English. Plotting the distributions of Colleton and Culloden in the Tithe Applotments (via http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/) Culloden appears on the fringes of the Colleton distribution, though the Dublin Cullodens don't appear in that survey (it only covered some agricultural labourers). > The Tithe Applotment Books didn’t just cover agricultural labourers, it covered occupiers - whatever their walk in life - of any *agricultural land* that was liable to tithe (some was exempt). That’s why there aren’t any assessments for large towns and cities, though there are for some country towns - Nenagh in county Tipperary springs to mind. Thanks for following up on Colleton - I only threw it out as a suggestion. Might be interesting to follow up … are you listening, Valerie? Fiona _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com