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    1. Re: [G] Married twice?
    2. June Willing via
    3. Hi Rose A bond is not a marriage, it is part of the licence, which is to avoid the delay caused by having to calls the banns. In simple terms, two people, usually the groom and a friend, declared that both parties were free to marry. In the bond, these two people agreed that they would pay the sum stated if it turns out that the two parties were not free to marry. This sum is usually large enough to be a deterrent, for instance I have a bond dated 1747 in which my ancestor John Willing, a farmer of Wembury, Devon, agreed to pay 200 pounds, an enormous sum in those days. If Ernest and Edile did marry twice, it was normally because he had not got permission the first time, but the bond itself is not proof of that. They did actually marry on 16 February 1916 at St George Hanover Square. This marriage is on FMP, though I could not get the image to load, so there may be a problem with it. June Willing Guild of One-Name Studies member no 2117 Willing/Willings One-Name Study http://one-name.org/name_profile/Willing/ Willing/Willings DNA Project http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Willing/ Dominicus One-Name Study http://one-name.org/name_profile/dominicus-2/ On 8 Dec 2014, at 12:59, Rose Norton via wrote: > Hello > > Looking at the rest of my family tree I came across something I have > never > seen. A Bond of marriage. Its sworn in St Georges Hanover Square > between > Ernest Ambrose Syratt and Edile Marie Daeghsel in Feb 1915. There is a > registration for the same date. I haven't been able to find the > marriage so > I'm presuming this Bond is it. Then they married in Ipswich Jul-Sep > 1915. So > should I presume that he hadn't got permission from the army to > marry first > time round? He was in 2/6th City of London battalion of London > Regiment and > died of wounds in 1917 in France. As far as I can see they did not > have > children and I have no idea what happened to Edile. I found this > bond of > marriage so interesting I got a copy off Ancestry. > > Rose Norton > Bierton 6008 > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

    12/08/2014 11:27:44
    1. Re: [G] FMP download failure was Married twice?
    2. David Wharton via
    3. I also have failed to download a Westminster marriage for the past week. No problem with other FMP datasets. David Wharton -----Original Message----- From: June Willing via Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 6:27 PM To: Rose Norton ; goons@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G] Married twice? Hi Rose A bond is not a marriage, it is part of the licence, which is to avoid the delay caused by having to calls the banns. In simple terms, two people, usually the groom and a friend, declared that both parties were free to marry. In the bond, these two people agreed that they would pay the sum stated if it turns out that the two parties were not free to marry. This sum is usually large enough to be a deterrent, for instance I have a bond dated 1747 in which my ancestor John Willing, a farmer of Wembury, Devon, agreed to pay 200 pounds, an enormous sum in those days. If Ernest and Edile did marry twice, it was normally because he had not got permission the first time, but the bond itself is not proof of that. They did actually marry on 16 February 1916 at St George Hanover Square. This marriage is on FMP, though I could not get the image to load, so there may be a problem with it. June Willing Guild of One-Name Studies member no 2117 Willing/Willings One-Name Study http://one-name.org/name_profile/Willing/ Willing/Willings DNA Project http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Willing/ Dominicus One-Name Study http://one-name.org/name_profile/dominicus-2/ On 8 Dec 2014, at 12:59, Rose Norton via wrote: > Hello > > Looking at the rest of my family tree I came across something I have > never > seen. A Bond of marriage. Its sworn in St Georges Hanover Square > between > Ernest Ambrose Syratt and Edile Marie Daeghsel in Feb 1915. There is a > registration for the same date. I haven't been able to find the > marriage so > I'm presuming this Bond is it. Then they married in Ipswich Jul-Sep > 1915. So > should I presume that he hadn't got permission from the army to > marry first > time round? He was in 2/6th City of London battalion of London > Regiment and > died of wounds in 1917 in France. As far as I can see they did not > have > children and I have no idea what happened to Edile. I found this > bond of > marriage so interesting I got a copy off Ancestry. > > Rose Norton > Bierton 6008 > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

    12/08/2014 03:32:25