Debbie, Step 8 of the DNA Getting Started email covers listing their DNA Project with the Registrar, by using a link. As far as I can tell, from just testing it, the link still works. You do NOT need a profile to list your DNA Project, though there is a different step in DNA Getting Started to set up a Profile. If they don't get to step 8 - then don't expect many or any participants. They may have established a project to protect their registered name(s) and plan to spend time in the future on the project. The best solution is for members to list their project with the Registrar. Then we would have an automated list. Maybe not 100% accurate - but better than I can do. I have spent a lot of time over the last decade trying to make an accurate list - and it is impossible. There is no automated way for me to know if a member joins with a DNA Project, the registrar needs to manually inform me, if they even know. There is no automated way for me to know when a member doesn't renew, the registrar needs to manually inform me, which just started recently. Until then, I had to annually audit logos to see if they were still members, which is extremely time consuming.. If they start a project on their own, there is no way for me to know. People have also listed projects that exist for their surname, that they aren't even involved with. When I discover a DNA Project for a member, some don't even answer my simply inquiry for some basic information. I could go on and on about the issues. I gave up years ago on having an accurate list. Susan