Hi One-Namers Everywhere Around the year 1976 I extracted the following from Lloyds Registers and started looking at ships logs at the PRO in Chancery Lane, now starting over and reviewing my research. I took these to be the voyages of my g g grandfather Henry LAWS 1800-1880 some years H LAWS appeared in the records other years just LAWS appeared. 1833 - 38 Master of Barque "Blanche" Shepherd & Co London - St.Kitts 1838 - 39 Master of Brig "William Fulcher" London - Nevis Owner Pochley 1839 - 40 Master of Barque "Benjamin Greene" Blythe & Greene - West Indies 1842 - 43 Master of Brig "William Fulcher" London - Pochley - West Indies 1843 - 50 Master of Barque "Benjamin Greene" Blythe & Greene West Indies 1854 - 64 Master of Barque "Nautilus" Blythe & Greene - London - West Indies 1864 - 65 Master of Barque "Devonshire" 1865 - 74 Master of Barque "Nautilus" Blythe & Greene - London - West Indies 1875 - 80 Master of Barque "Nautilus" W Binney - London - West Indies Masters ticket issued 10 Mar 1850 - 43021- PRO BT122-6 By an order of the Board of Trade, in 1845 voluntary examinations of competency for men intending to become masters or mates of foreign-going British Merchant ships, this was made compulsory in 1850 an exemption was made for men considered to have sufficient experience were eligible without formal examination. C24644 pensioned Certificate received by Board of Trade 31 Mar 1864 Henry had 2 sons who also went to sea, Robert Henry 1828-1891 & Edward William 1841-1887 I know Robert Henry LAWS was master of the following sailing vessels 1852 - 53 "Catherine Green" London - West Indies 1853 - 61 "St Michael" 39958 West Indies & Africa 1861 - 64 "Devonshire" 24844 West Indies 1864 - 68 "Nautilus" 24507 France, Portugal, Spain & West Indies 1873 - 74 "Woolhampton" London - Mauritius 1874 - 81 "Woolhampton" London - St Kitts Employer 1864 - 67 Blythe & Greene 1874 - 75 Blythe & Co 1876 - 77 Blythe Greene & Co 1878 - 80 J Swindell 1881 - 82 N C Sendall Edward William C30893 London 1868 was master in the following years 1869-1873; 1874-1879; 1880-1884; vol.51 although in 1874 as master of the steamship "Amulato" on 5 Feb 1874 he was found guilty of being drunk in charge and had his ticket suspended for a year and he went as 1st Mate to his brother. Where else should I look to confirm just who was in charge of these vessels? Was it uncommon for master's wives to travel with their husbands as Robert Henry's first born was born in Ireland according to the 1881 census. There in no other explanation that I can think of. In the 1881 census neither Mother or father was with the children who were in the family home in care of his mother. John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History http://lawsfamilyregister.tribalpages.com http://lawsandlawes.blogspot.com Registered with The Guild of One-Name Studies wwww.one-name.org Email:- registrar@lawsfamilyregister.org.uk This e-mail is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Laws Family Register.org.uk. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender.

John: Masters on merchant vessels were in charge of the ship under the auspices of the owners. This is unlike masters in the Royal Navy who were warrant officers (and eventually commissioned as commanders) and were only in charge of the navigation and stowage. Sometimes they had other duties as assigned. The captain was in charge of the ship in the RN. The master in the merchant service was the de facto captain and was often known by that courtesy title. Family were permitted to travel. It appears that the entire lot of my 3rd great grandfather's family of 8 were living aboard the ship of his last merchant master's position. You may want to check if logs exist. I learned a great deal from the master's log from one of the RN ships on which my ancestor served. -- Jim James M. Owston, EdD Owston One-Name Study #5647 owston@one-name.org http://www.one-name.org/cgi-bin/search.cgi?find=5647 On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 2:52 PM, John P Laws via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi One-Namers Everywhere > > > Where else should I look to confirm just who was in charge of these vessels? > > > Was it uncommon for master's wives to travel with their husbands as Robert >

Hi John Shipping movements, and events associated with the ships, are mentioned frequently in the newspapers of the time and the name of the ship's master is generally given, eg "Blanche" Laws, so you could search through the papers at FMP or http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ It wasn't uncommon for the master's wife to travel with him. My gt grandmother travelled with gt grandfather a number of times, along with her dog! The children sometimes went as well, when they weren't at school I assume. Ann McDonald Corner ONS On 8 February 2015 at 08:52, John P Laws via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi One-Namers Everywhere > > Around the year 1976 I extracted the following from Lloyds Registers and > started looking at ships logs at the PRO in Chancery Lane, now starting over > and reviewing my research. > I took these to be the voyages of my g g grandfather Henry LAWS 1800-1880 > some years H LAWS appeared in the records other years just LAWS appeared. > > > 1833 - 38 Master of Barque "Blanche" Shepherd & Co London - St.Kitts > 1838 - 39 Master of Brig "William Fulcher" London - Nevis Owner Pochley > 1839 - 40 Master of Barque "Benjamin Greene" Blythe & Greene - West Indies > 1842 - 43 Master of Brig "William Fulcher" London - Pochley - West Indies > 1843 - 50 Master of Barque "Benjamin Greene" Blythe & Greene West Indies > 1854 - 64 Master of Barque "Nautilus" Blythe & Greene - London - West Indies > 1864 - 65 Master of Barque "Devonshire" > 1865 - 74 Master of Barque "Nautilus" Blythe & Greene - London - West Indies > 1875 - 80 Master of Barque "Nautilus" W Binney - London - West Indies > > Masters ticket issued 10 Mar 1850 - 43021- PRO BT122-6 > > By an order of the Board of Trade, in 1845 voluntary examinations of > competency for men intending to become masters or mates of foreign-going > British Merchant ships, this was made compulsory in 1850 an exemption was > made for men considered to have sufficient experience were eligible without > formal examination. > > C24644 pensioned Certificate received by Board of Trade 31 Mar 1864 > > Henry had 2 sons who also went to sea, Robert Henry 1828-1891 & Edward > William 1841-1887 > > I know Robert Henry LAWS was master of the following sailing vessels > 1852 - 53 "Catherine Green" London - West Indies > 1853 - 61 "St Michael" 39958 West Indies & Africa > 1861 - 64 "Devonshire" 24844 West Indies > 1864 - 68 "Nautilus" 24507 France, Portugal, Spain & West Indies > 1873 - 74 "Woolhampton" London - Mauritius > 1874 - 81 "Woolhampton" London - St Kitts > > Employer > 1864 - 67 Blythe & Greene > 1874 - 75 Blythe & Co > 1876 - 77 Blythe Greene & Co > 1878 - 80 J Swindell > 1881 - 82 N C Sendall > > Edward William C30893 London 1868 was master in the following years > 1869-1873; 1874-1879; 1880-1884; vol.51 although in 1874 as master of the > steamship "Amulato" on 5 Feb 1874 he was found guilty of being drunk in > charge and had his ticket suspended for a year and he went as 1st Mate to > his brother. > > Where else should I look to confirm just who was in charge of these vessels? > > > Was it uncommon for master's wives to travel with their husbands as Robert > Henry's first born was born in Ireland according to the 1881 census. There > in no other explanation that I can think of. In the 1881 census neither > Mother or father was with the children who were in the family home in care > of his mother. > > > > > > John P Laws > > Registrar > Laws Family Register > Putting Flesh on the Bones of History > > http://lawsfamilyregister.tribalpages.com > http://lawsandlawes.blogspot.com > > Registered with The Guild of One-Name Studies > wwww.one-name.org > > > > Email:- registrar@lawsfamilyregister.org.uk > > > This e-mail is confidential and intended solely for the use of the > individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are > solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the > Laws Family Register.org.uk. If you are not the intended recipient, please > be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, > dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the > sender. > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, I have a transcription of a diary kept during a voyage in 1838 (UK to Australia) the Master John Hardman LISTER with wife Susanna (nee PYMBLE) aboard. This amusing entry by the diarist: (from other entries it is clear that the diarist was not at all keen on Susanna) Saturday 7th April Last night the Pilot left the ship and this morning the wind has increased and was still the same direction – so here we must stay for a change – the steward forgot to bring any bread with him and as the oven was not yet in order we had nothing but biscuit to eat which to me having no teeth is quite a task. Mrs Fowles today is rather poorly but not sick altho the motion had been very great – Mrs Lister by way of consolation says the water is quite smooth and we shall have something more like motion before we get to the end of our journey – she is constantly gratuitous by encouraging or rather discouraging the timid with tales of horror. – She has been round the world three times and has retained nothing but the most horrible and unpleasant occurrences. and more tragically Saturday 30 June Today the weather continued much as it was yesterday & day before – but we had a pleasant sunshine instead of rain – We had a service to perform today which does not often occur on board ship – a funeral. On Saturday last Henry [LISTER son Capt LISTER and Susanna aged 2] of died – and from that day Mrs Lister determined to keep him if possible a week -–she has borne with great fortitude the loss and was piously resigned to it as the will of the Father to all of us who gave him to her. This morning when the time proposed had come she wished him to be kept another day but the Captain had given his orders, and as it was deemed silly to postpone it longer – it took place. So not just a wife on board but a young child also. Gerald -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John P Laws via Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 7:53 PM To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] Do we have any Maritime 'Experts'