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    1. Re: [G] - Worldwide Marriage Index
    2. Corinne Curtis via
    3. I appreciate your concerns, Tony, but going back to first principles, if publication and sharing information are key principles in one name studies, then surely putting as much out into the public domain as possible is an important way to go - remembering that the public still don't get full access (it is after all just an index) and still have to contact the registered study to get more than just basic index references. As for study names or non-study names - any name has the potential to become a study name in the future. Why artificially restrict it to just those who have currently signed up? - especially as we now have the option of indicating "surnames of interest" rather than only registered study names. I'm not convinced GOONS has the most useful arrangement of indexes - yet - but the only way it can develop is by members trusting the process, and contributing index information (note that I'm saying "index information", not full details) in an unrestricted and permanent way to allow the committee and officers to test, adapt, and develop a resource that has increased dramatically in size since I became a member, that potentially has uses to members as well as providing a contact point between members and the general public. There is still confusion about the purpose of the Indexes, and it would be good for the committee to clarify this, but putting too much restriction or rules on how contributions are to be used or who "owns" them at this stage isn't going to be useful at all. I also don't believe copyright is an issue at all for an index created by the independent academic effort of contributors if the contributors themselves waive any copyright. And to show my support for the indexes, I'm in the process of tidying up my marriages spreadsheet and will be very shortly sending it in with all 7500 or so marriage references - no strings attached - to be included as deemed appropriate by the index coordinator in any GOONS index. Corinne Curtis #5579 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:50 PM, mingay via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi All, > In a reply to my comments/views of the so called Worldwide > Marriage Index I was amazed to see that they are to be put in the > Public Domain. I presume all contributers have agree to that happening, has > the possible infringement of copyright been fully investigated and that the > Committee has also concurred to this publication. ......... > > > Regards Tony > Anthony John MINGAY, now in NZ once of Kent & Suffolk, England but still > researching Worldwide the surname MINGAY & its variants. > http://www.mingayhistory.co.uk. >

    02/04/2015 03:36:22
    1. Re: [G] - Worldwide Marriage Index
    2. Tessa Keough via
    3. Corinne and All GOONS Excellent post and while there might be discussion of number and types of indexes on the Guild website (and how best to make use of in future), they are a very useful benefit of our membership. I gather much information when I research (often this has to be transcribed - as photocopies, scans are not allowed AND this information will not be placed online elsewhere) and so the marriage information (and other vital records) is helpful to others. Perhaps one of the names I transcribed is your ONS, or it is one of your registered interested surnames (or would be if you knew others had some information to share). Why not share that data? I view this the same way as those helpful Guild members who send me a link to a website or a scan of an obituary or newspaper article where they found a KEOUGH reference. You can bet that I write down their registered ONS surname and am on the lookout for them where I live (after I send a quick email of thanks for their efforts). Let's think about how we can help each other, add to our Guild's knowledge base, and work together - no strings attached - for our individual members and the Guild. We need to be on the giving and well as the receiving side of any of these efforts. Thanks for the reminder Corinne. Tessa Tessa Keough Guild of One-Name Studies, Member No. 5089 Keough (Keogh, Kough & Kehoe) Registered ONS On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:36 AM, Corinne Curtis via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I appreciate your concerns, Tony, but going back to first principles, > if publication and sharing information are key principles in one name > studies, then surely putting as much out into the public domain as > possible is an important way to go - remembering that the public still > don't get full access (it is after all just an index) and still have > to contact the registered study to get more than just basic index > references. As for study names or non-study names - any name has the > potential to become a study name in the future. Why artificially > restrict it to just those who have currently signed up? - especially > as we now have the option of indicating "surnames of interest" rather > than only registered study names. > > I'm not convinced GOONS has the most useful arrangement of indexes - > yet - but the only way it can develop is by members trusting the > process, and contributing index information (note that I'm saying > "index information", not full details) in an unrestricted and > permanent way to allow the committee and officers to test, adapt, and > develop a resource that has increased dramatically in size since I > became a member, that potentially has uses to members as well as > providing a contact point between members and the general public. > > There is still confusion about the purpose of the Indexes, and it > would be good for the committee to clarify this, but putting too much > restriction or rules on how contributions are to be used or who "owns" > them at this stage isn't going to be useful at all. I also don't > believe copyright is an issue at all for an index created by the > independent academic effort of contributors if the contributors > themselves waive any copyright. > > And to show my support for the indexes, I'm in the process of tidying > up my marriages spreadsheet and will be very shortly sending it in > with all 7500 or so marriage references - no strings attached - to be > included as deemed appropriate by the index coordinator in any GOONS > index. > > Corinne Curtis #5579 > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:50 PM, mingay via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> Hi All, >> In a reply to my comments/views of the so called Worldwide >> Marriage Index I was amazed to see that they are to be put in the >> Public Domain. I presume all contributers have agree to that happening, has >> the possible infringement of copyright been fully investigated and that the >> Committee has also concurred to this publication. ......... >> >> >> Regards Tony >> Anthony John MINGAY, now in NZ once of Kent & Suffolk, England but still >> researching Worldwide the surname MINGAY & its variants. >> http://www.mingayhistory.co.uk. >> > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/04/2015 12:51:08