Susan Family Tree DNA pushed out an update on Friday which has fixed most of these issues. The activity feed can now be switched on and off. The administrator can choose not to display the member list in his or project. These settings can be found under Project administration/Project profile. I've checked both settings and can confirm that they both work. There still appears to be a problem whereby if you have the activity feed switched on the members' names are revealed in the posts advising that a new member has joined the group, even if you have opted for a restricted members' list. FTDNA have been alerted to the problem and hopefully that will be fixed shortly. At the moment there is no option for a participant to join a group and not to reveal his or her name if the project has got the activity feed switched on and the member list is displayed, and I think this probably still needs to be addressed. There should be a setting for the individual to choose whether or not to display his or her name on a project by project basis. There is a document on Google Drive where project admins are collaborating and posting suggestions fixes for MyGroups so if anyone has any other ideas or if you wish to support any of the suggestions do go ahead and edit the document. You can find the file here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q80JrNLcSbhTtz-WMBuWfN7yYXbHxvsk5U2c1CA1 GZQ/edit# If the link breaks you can use this short URL: http://tinyurl.com/MyGroupsFixes There are also ongoing discussions in the following groups: https://www.familytreedna.com/privacy-policy.aspx 1) Family Tree DNA Project Administrators' Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/748625258556621/ 2) Y-DNA Project Administrators' Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/43927947190/ 3) ISOGG Project Administrators' Yahoo mailing list: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ISOGG/info My understanding is that opting out of MyGroups is not going to be an option. FTDNA have already advised that they cannot maintain two different websites in the long term. I think the new MyGroups is a big improvement on the old system, and once the final bug fixes have been sorted I'm sure everyone will be happy. Best wishes Debbie

Debbie, I wish you had written to me for clarification so we don't risk confusing members. I stand by my post. Regarding your issues 1. You stated: "My understanding is that opting out of MyGroups is not going to be an option. FTDNA have already advised that they cannot maintain two different websites in the long term. " Response: I have in writing from Family Tree DNA dated January 20th, that Guild members and any projects I am involved in can opt out of the member display and the activity feed. These were my primary concerns, due to the impact on their projects and recruiting, as documented in my post. The rest of the new Personal Page format is harmless. This occurred before myGroups was released to the customer base and you had an opportunity to see it. My job is to protect Guild members' interests, and to provide them with options so that they can have the most successful DNA Project possible. I do **not** doubt the commitment I have from Family Tree DNA. They have always kept their word in everything I have negotiated for 15 years. Getting it in writing is extra insurance, though not necessary. Technically, if we want to get into programming details, the user interface will change for all Personal Pages. Those that opt-out will NOT have the member display or the activity feed. Therefore, Family Tree DNA wouldn't be maintaining two different websites. Those that opt-out will still get the option of putting up a picture/banner, which is harmless. 2. I think I made it very clear in my post that there are evolving issues. As mentioned in my post, due to customer input when the myGroups was released to the customer base as a whole, the problems I identified **may** get solved over time. This is an evolving issue. I checked my beta project before I sent the post to the Forum, and either nothing was there or worked about these potential evolving features. It is also important regarding the default setting for participant disclosure, and I have not seen anything about this issue. If it is not the default that a participant will not be displayed, each a Guild member who opts-in their project will need to advise each new participant on this option. Participant display makes recruiting much more difficult. ---- In summary, Guild members have a choice to opt-in or opt-out of member display and the activity feed. These are the 2 areas of myGroups that I covered in my post. They can decide what ever works best for them, their project, and their recruiting goals. Once the situation has settled down, and it is a known how it will all work, I will advise the list I have of those who have opted-out about the final functionality and issues. Susan -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 2/23/15, Debbie Kennett <debbiekennett@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: RE: [G] News for those with a DNA Project To: "'S.C. Meates'" <scm@bellsouth.net>, goons@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2015, 4:10 PM Susan Family Tree DNA pushed out an update on Friday which has fixed most of these issues. The activity feed can now be switched on and off. The administrator can choose not to display the member list in his or project. These settings can be found under Project administration/Project profile. I've checked both settings and can confirm that they both work. There still appears to be a problem whereby if you have the activity feed switched on the members' names are revealed in the posts advising that a new member has joined the group, even if you have opted for a restricted members' list. FTDNA have been alerted to the problem and hopefully that will be fixed shortly. At the moment there is no option for a participant to join a group and not to reveal his or her name if the project has got the activity feed switched on and the member list is displayed, and I think this probably still needs to be addressed. There should be a setting for the individual to choose whether or not to display his or her name on a project by project basis. There is a document on Google Drive where project admins are collaborating and posting suggestions fixes for MyGroups so if anyone has any other ideas or if you wish to support any of the suggestions do go ahead and edit the document. You can find the file here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q80JrNLcSbhTtz-WMBuWfN7yYXbHxvsk5U2c1CA1 GZQ/edit# If the link breaks you can use this short URL: http://tinyurl.com/MyGroupsFixes There are also ongoing discussions in the following groups: https://www.familytreedna.com/privacy-policy.aspx 1) Family Tree DNA Project Administrators' Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/748625258556621/ 2) Y-DNA Project Administrators' Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/43927947190/ 3) ISOGG Project Administrators' Yahoo mailing list: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ISOGG/info My understanding is that opting out of MyGroups is not going to be an option. FTDNA have already advised that they cannot maintain two different websites in the long term. I think the new MyGroups is a big improvement on the old system, and once the final bug fixes have been sorted I'm sure everyone will be happy. Best wishes Debbie

Firstly I would like to thank Susan Meates for helping me and many others in starting DNA Projects - hard work that I am sure she can well do without. In her DNA Getting Started message, Section 8 concerns Adding Your Project to the Guild Online Register, and Susan has remarked on the fact that not everybody seems to be doing this. Having gone through the process, I noticed a big drawback to our website - the URLs. Luckily Susan provided a link to cut and paste, but if for some reason you can't do this (I had printed off the message and entered it longhand) the link is as follows: http://www.one-name.org/cgi-bin/user-maintenance/multiplewebsitefrontpage.cgi Try getting that right first time - it is over 70 characters long. I don't know anything about building websites, but do we really need such complicated URLs? Adrian

Thanks for the update Debbie. Fiona — 5538 - Duignan etc. > On 23 Feb 2015, at 21:10, Debbie Kennett via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Susan > > Family Tree DNA pushed out an update on Friday which has fixed most of these > issues. > > The activity feed can now be switched on and off. The administrator can > choose not to display the member list in his or project. These settings can > be found under Project administration/Project profile. I've checked both > settings and can confirm that they both work. > > There still appears to be a problem whereby if you have the activity feed > switched on the members' names are revealed in the posts advising that a new > member has joined the group, even if you have opted for a restricted > members' list. FTDNA have been alerted to the problem and hopefully that > will be fixed shortly. > > At the moment there is no option for a participant to join a group and not > to reveal his or her name if the project has got the activity feed switched > on and the member list is displayed, and I think this probably still needs > to be addressed. There should be a setting for the individual to choose > whether or not to display his or her name on a project by project basis. > > There is a document on Google Drive where project admins are collaborating > and posting suggestions fixes for MyGroups so if anyone has any other ideas > or if you wish to support any of the suggestions do go ahead and edit the > document. You can find the file here: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q80JrNLcSbhTtz-WMBuWfN7yYXbHxvsk5U2c1CA1 > GZQ/edit# > > If the link breaks you can use this short URL: > > http://tinyurl.com/MyGroupsFixes > > There are also ongoing discussions in the following groups: > > https://www.familytreedna.com/privacy-policy.aspx > > 1) Family Tree DNA Project Administrators' Facebook Group: > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/748625258556621/ > > 2) Y-DNA Project Administrators' Facebook Group: > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/43927947190/ > > 3) ISOGG Project Administrators' Yahoo mailing list: > > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ISOGG/info > > My understanding is that opting out of MyGroups is not going to be an > option. FTDNA have already advised that they cannot maintain two different > websites in the long term. > > I think the new MyGroups is a big improvement on the old system, and once > the final bug fixes have been sorted I'm sure everyone will be happy. > > Best wishes > > Debbie > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message