Marie, Would I be correct in assuming that your lineage numbers are allocated 'as required' (i.e the next person created gets the next number) rather than by their position in the tree? Your "lineage" system sound very much like my "family origin" - I named families by the place where they appear to originate. I'm having to vary this a little for the USA as I have been unable to determine the place where some families originated (as opposed to 'sailed from') - so I'm currently using the first place where they are known to have settled. I do all my merges & splitting in Family Historian, where I have much greater control over the process. They don't get uploaded to TNG until they are reasonably stable. Currently I don't attach anything to the individuals/trees - I embed sufficient information to find the information at the source AND on my PC. Clearly there is no 'correct' way and each of us has to find a system that works for them and their study. Kind Regards, Ken On 6 January 2015 at 02:24, Marie Byatt <morris12m@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > From my own limited experience - and maybe because I'm on the Western side of the Atlantic or because many Peplers/lows never roosted for very long - I tried grouping files by place and it just didn't work for anything smaller than a full country because the vast majority of my study had at least three and in some cases eight different places. So When building a person I was having to visit too many different folders. > Now I identify by lineage numbers. Each descendent in a lineage gets the number added to their name and I have a family folder to hold certificates, documents, images etc. If the lineage is vast enough (say over about 200 or so), I have sub folders in the folder for the different event types. > Same with numbering - I tried a structured numbering system but I do so many merges that the renumbering became more of a nuisance than an help. This is one of the problems I find with TNG - it wants to identify everything by an ID number and when I merge three people together - two numbers get lost and I don't want to have to chase their attachments everytime I do a merge. > > Marie (GOONS 5318) > > > Bringing the world together one surname at a time. > 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com > 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com > Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ > 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com > > > ________________________________ > From: Ken Toll via <goons@rootsweb.com> > To: Goons mailing list <goons@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 3:01 PM > Subject: Re: [G] Family Research in the USA - JOONs article by Ken Toll > > > ...Resending as previously posted in Rich Text... > > Jim, I described my basic filing method in my JOONS article in Oct > 2008, http://one-name.org/members/journal/vol9-12.pdf pp 10-12. > > Re-reading the article, little has changed, except that I now have my > own fledgling TNG site at www.Toll-FamilyHistory.org/genealogy. > > The material I collected was initially filed (on my PC) under the > repository where it was found. For each repository, I have been > (slowly) > > sorting the material by "Family Location", enabling me to then bring > material together for each family. For the Schenectady (NY) > > TOLLs I was able to add material into my existing tree, as it is an > old and well documented US family. For other families I have yet > > to transfer much of the information into Trees. > > I intend to create databases for each State/Province (as I already > have for several UK Counties & Aus States) extracting the core > genealogical data, its source, and where the image/research is filed. > When Jean started the VANT ONS I suggested she also added a 'Tree' > reference to each piece of research data. this has worked so well that > I now have to go back and re-document mine :-( > Very happy to share the format(s) if of interest. > > I know size isn't everything... > ...but I've just checked my ONS and it comprises 23,342 Files in 2,174 > Folders occupying almost 30GB! It has clearly grown since the 7GB in > 2008. This is almost certainly due to mainly using a Digital Camera > (rather than pencil & paper) to record research. > > As a parallel project, I am tackling the US& Canada States & Provinces > one at a time. It's not a perfect solution as some miscreants keep > crossing borders! However, I have about 10 Wisconsin TOLL families > back to their migrant ancestors and am currently doing the same for > Illinios. As time permits, I will be extracting data from my US Trips > and adding it to the relevant Family Trees. > > I actually use Family Historian (FH, v6) as my research tool and > currently only use TNG (v9) for on-line backup, as a web presence, and > for sharing. I shall, of course, be investigating TNG (v10) as a > research tool as time permits. > > I suspect what the software (FH or TNG) is capable of doing will > depend very much on one's programming skills, as I believe both can > run 'scripts'. I agree with Marie that the software won't (or > shouldn't) do everything for you, but it could be capable of > generating 'hints' and adding the link if you concur. > > Sorry it is a rather rambling reply, but it is a rather rambling hobby... > > Ken > Joint RR for East & West Sussex > > On 3 January 2015 at 21:10, Jim Benedict via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> Ken Toll (member 1331) and his wife Jean (member 6183) wrote an interesting >> pair of articles in the latest journal. >> >> Ken, you collected hundreds, if not thousands of unindexed documents and >> photographs during your trips in 2013 to the northeastern USA and 2014 to >> Salt Lake City. Now, how the dickens are you going to organize them into a >> research project? As with you, I am trying to use TNG for a family tree >> application and research tool. My digital file cabinet has 4,000 files, all >> digital images of original Benedict paper documents. They need to be >> matched up to Benedict ancestors on the family trees. TNG allows for people >> ID numbers and family ID numbers, and I also am using a modified Henry >> descendant numbering system for the Benedict line. >> >> I also know that you plan to use TNG yourself. How does one design a >> document database that 'wires' into a family tree application for ONS >> research purposes? >> >> Jim Benedict >> Guild Representative for Western Canada >> Guild of One-Name Studies: Guild member #4794 >> Calgary, Alberta >> www.BenedictGenerations.com >> ======================================================== >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message