Thanks to everyone who has offered an opinion over the last 24 hours. You are brilliant. Earlier, I took up Polly's offer of some help and before we've had some time to really interact about the problem, just a few moments ago I spotted one detail from the two death records that I'd not previously noticed: the page numbers are the same, even though the volume numbers are different - yet another co-incidence to add to unusual name, date of birth and quarter of death. I've also been in touch with the family of the man who died in Canterbury, thanks to an online tree at Ancestry.com. So we definitely know that that record is correct. This is leading me to believe that somehow an error has occurred in the index record, or the online versions of it. So that's probably as far as we can get for now. I'll let everyone know the results of our deliberations. Paul On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 9:02 AM, June Willing via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi All > > I have just checked and FMP does imply a quarter. It appears that the > "Register Number" field is used for the DOR (Date of Registration) > column. So a DOR of 0184 gives a quarter of 1, 0684 gives 2, etc. > > Ancestry simply converts 0184 to Jan 1984 and does not give a quarter. > > So, did these two people have the same DOR? If not, this could > indicate two different registrations on different dates. What this > might mean is a different matter. > > June Willing > Guild of One-Name Studies member no 2117 > Willing/Willings One-Name Study > http://one-name.org/name_profile/Willing/ > Willing/Willings DNA Project > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Willing/ > Dominicus One-Name Study > http://one-name.org/name_profile/dominicus-2/ > > On 16 Jan 2015, at 08:22, John Hanson via wrote: > >> Entries from 1984 onwards come from a centralised database that is >> provided >> to all the online companies by the IPS and there are no images to go >> with >> it. The database is not indexed by quarter and if one of the >> companies is >> showing a quarter then it is implying it from the month of >> registration >> >> Regards >> John Hanson >> Researcher, The Halsted Trust >> Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On >> Behalf Of Janet Few via >> Sent: 16 January 2015 06:56 >> To: Paul Howes; goons@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [G] Two death registrations? >> >> You have to register the death where the person died and not where >> they >> lived. Maybe this person died away from home and the person >> registering the >> death registered it where they lived, then realised that this was >> incorrect. >> >> As one of the questions is 'where did they die?' you'd think the >> 'wrong' >> registrar would have halted the process at this point though. >> Alternatively >> (depending on where you are accessing the information from) perhaps >> there >> has been an indexing error - whether on Ancestry/Freebmd etc - or, >> if you >> have seen the images of the registers, the error could have been in >> compiling the central indexes somehow. Almost worth £18.50 to get >> the death >> certificates to see if that helps. >> >> Janet #1136 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul Howes via >> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:51 AM >> To: goons@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [G] Two death registrations? >> >> Folks, in England and Wales, is there any way a one single death >> might have >> been registered twice in two different districts? >> >> Reason I ask is that we've just discovered two people with the same >> relatively unusual name who both died in the same quarter in 1984, >> one in >> Kent and one in Lancashire. Amazingly (we think!) both death >> records show >> exactly the same date of birth! >> >> Could it be one person? I've never had to register a death in >> England. So >> I don't know the procedure, but it would seem like there has to be >> some kind >> of control over the registration of deaths, eg, an original >> certificate from >> a qualified physician. Ergo, it seems like we've stumbled into a >> massive >> co-incidence. >> >> Just want to eliminate the unlikely . . . >> TIA for any help >> Paul >> >> >> >> -- >> Paul Howes >> www.howesfamilies.com >> Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Paul Howes www.howesfamilies.com Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide