Perhaps a sibling married a Rowe who became his God-father. Have you looked at censuses to see if there were Rowes living nearby, someone met in the Army/Navy who was admired. I have been trying to trace back families who have used Bawtree as a 'first' name. It usually pops up quite quickly as mother or grandmother maiden name but in one instance I've gone through four different surnamed families to arrive at a possible connection back in 1730's. From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: [email protected] GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie Watts via" <[email protected]> To: "'Eileen Adkins'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "'Christopher.Gray'" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [G] A puzzle in Surrey with the Kelly clan >I would concur with Eileen, especially if said friends had good > connections.... and once one reaches child number six or seven... > > > Angie > Dodkin(s) ONS > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Eileen Adkins via > Sent: 29 May 2016 22:15 > To: Christopher.Gray; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [G] A puzzle in Surrey with the Kelly clan > > Christopher, > > In my husband's family his grandmother and her siblings had a number of > interesting 2nd or 3rd names which turned out to be the surnames of family > friends - not relations. Maybe the same goes for your grandfather's name. > > Eileen > KNAPPETT ONS > > On 29 May 2016, at 20:57, Christopher.Gray via wrote: > >> Good evening, >> >> I have recently joined a Facebook site which is covering the area of >> Cheam, Epsom and Ewell (Surrey, England) - its Memories, Local History >> and Genealogy. My mother's father lived in the area and I was >> comfortable with my knowledge of him. He was Abiezer Wreford Rowe >> Kelly - > born on 9th March >> 1896 in Lewisham (London). He married my Grandmother on 11th October > 1922, >> but they divorced and he married Doris May Biden (Registered Surrey >> ME, Mar 1950). So far so good. All was well until someone on the >> Facebook site pointed out that xxx. Ummm. I understood that Doris >> had been the Lady Captain of the Epsom Golf Club but had found no >> confirmation. Someone else on the Facebook site identified a record >> which > showed her as D.M. >> Rowe-Kelly. So I decided to look further. >> >> Going back to his name - the birth certificate says "Birth of Abiezer >> Wreford Kelly - son of Philip Fulford Kelly (Master Coach Builder) and >> Mary Tracey Kelly formerly Lake". I have both the Kelly and Lake >> families going way back - no mention of Rowe. His death certificate >> says death of "Abiezer Wreford Rowe Kelly on 6th January 1986, born 9th > March 1896 in Devon ..." >> >> I had previously identified the marriage in FreeBMD - Marriage of >> Abiezer W R Kelly and Doris M Biden, Surrey Mid E 5g 418, Mar 1950 - >> with a duplicate entry showing her surname as Pym - indicating that she > had two surnames. >> Sure enough, I had found her previous marriage - Marriage of Wilfred C >> Pym and Doris M Biden, Epsom 2a 33, Sep 1919. No mention of Rowe >> other than the initial R. >> >> My Mother's birth certificate says "Birth of Mary ... Kelly - daughter >> of Abiezer Wreford Rowe Kelly (Civil Servant - Post Office Engineering >> department) and Jane Esther Kelly formerly Lockyer." So Rowe has >> appeared - but from where? [I have not obtained her brother's birth >> certificate.] >> >> His entry on the WW1 medal roll was in the name of "KELLY Wreford" - >> though I am not 100% sure I have the right person - though do know he >> was in the Royal Field Artillery (photographs of him in his uniform). >> I can't find his service record. So - no help on those names. Doris' >> death is registered - Doris May Rowe Kelly, born 25 Dec 1899, Gipping >> and Hartismere 10 2577, Apr 1990. She is buried with my grandfather. >> The "find a grave" entry shows her as Doris May Kelly, born 25 Dec >> 1899 in Redruth (Cornwall), died 13 Apr >> 1990 in Old Newton (Suffolk) and spouse Abiezer Wreford R Kelly > (1896-1986). >> >> So - where does the Rowe come from? Any ideas people? By the way - >> what I have found to date is on my web-site >> (http://www.gray-ons.org/secondsite/g0/p37.htm). >> >> By the way - there was a Doris May Rowe born in Cornwall in 1899, but >> she married a Percival G Allen in Highland Park, Wayne, Michigan, USA >> and so I have placed her on the back burner - being comfortable on the > Biden. > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message