This is how lines get "daughtered out", and why apparently all living men can trace their DNA back to one single ancestor "Y-Adam". On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 5:57 AM, Barbara Bush via <[email protected]> wrote: > You are not alone Liz. I was adopted by a wonderful man, who married my Mom > in 1967. There are three of us girls and we are all adopted. > He had one brother, who died last year with no children and a sister, who > died at age 16. I would venture to say that line is "dead" as well. His > Dad had a brother and two sisters. The brother had a son, who only has > daughters, so the entire male line from my Grandfather (adopted) will not go > on. As well, my Grandfather had only one brother and two sisters. His > brother had a son, who only has daughters, so that line will also be "dead" > from the male side. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Liz Phillips via > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 3:25 AM > To: Derek Bandy <[email protected]>; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [G] DNA conclusions? > > I thought my direct line was fairly healthy until I thought about it, half > brother (different father), who has two daughters and one son, so only has > three daughter's, girls obviously different surnames, but one had four > daughters anyway and the other only one son. Male cousin who has no > children, uncle with only one girl! So, this family line is now dead! > > best wishes, from another girl of the only girl! > Liz > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Derek Bandy via <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Don't forget over extended periods of time many DNA lines simply die >> out, people with no children, no male children (y-dna). It doesn't >> have to be natural disasters or massacres. There was a study on it >> some time ago but I have lost the details. >> >> with kind regards >> Derek Bandy >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of JANETHESKI via >> Sent: 27 April 2016 12:00 >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [G] DNA conclusions? >> >> And the Black Death... >> >> And the plague of 1665... >> >> Janet [2281] >> >> >> >> In a message dated 27/04/2016 11:58:02 GMT Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> Well, the last ice age would have killed many but even so ... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Christopher Gray via >> Sent: 2016 April 27 08:19 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [G] DNA conclusions? >> >> A recent claim in the UK's Daily Telegraph - as pointed to by today's >> "Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter" - was that half of today's >> European men are descended from a single man who lived some 4,000 >> years ago. >> Leaving >> aside what happened to all the boys descended from the many thousands >> of other men alive at that time - let alone this man's close >> relations (mass >> genocide?) - how can people make such sweeping generalisations based >> on the DNA of just 1,200 people? I could better understand if the >> study was of a few million people. >> >> The same goes for this "Eve" person we are all meant to be descended > from. >> Was she the only female alive at the time? Did she wonder around >> Africa killing off all the others? >> >> Chris >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am trying to "get my head around" this. So - if this person 4,000 years ago had the surname "Fluxatroyd" (and I know that surnames don't go that far back) - would half the population of Europe now have that surname? Chris -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephanie Ray via Sent: 28 April 2016 15:04 To: Barbara Bush; GOONStgll Subject: Re: [G] DNA conclusions? This is how lines get "daughtered out", and why apparently all living men can trace their DNA back to one single ancestor "Y-Adam". On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 5:57 AM, Barbara Bush via <[email protected]> wrote: > You are not alone Liz. I was adopted by a wonderful man, who married > my Mom in 1967. There are three of us girls and we are all adopted. > He had one brother, who died last year with no children and a sister, > who died at age 16. I would venture to say that line is "dead" as > well. His Dad had a brother and two sisters. The brother had a son, > who only has daughters, so the entire male line from my Grandfather > (adopted) will not go on. As well, my Grandfather had only one > brother and two sisters. His brother had a son, who only has daughters, so that line will also be "dead" > from the male side. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Liz Phillips via > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 3:25 AM > To: Derek Bandy <[email protected]>; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [G] DNA conclusions? > > I thought my direct line was fairly healthy until I thought about it, > half brother (different father), who has two daughters and one son, so > only has three daughter's, girls obviously different surnames, but one > had four daughters anyway and the other only one son. Male cousin who > has no children, uncle with only one girl! So, this family line is now dead! > > best wishes, from another girl of the only girl! > Liz > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Derek Bandy via <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Don't forget over extended periods of time many DNA lines simply die >> out, people with no children, no male children (y-dna). It doesn't >> have to be natural disasters or massacres. There was a study on it >> some time ago but I have lost the details. >> >> with kind regards >> Derek Bandy >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of JANETHESKI via >> Sent: 27 April 2016 12:00 >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [G] DNA conclusions? >> >> And the Black Death... >> >> And the plague of 1665... >> >> Janet [2281] >> >> >> >> In a message dated 27/04/2016 11:58:02 GMT Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> Well, the last ice age would have killed many but even so ... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Christopher Gray via >> Sent: 2016 April 27 08:19 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [G] DNA conclusions? >> >> A recent claim in the UK's Daily Telegraph - as pointed to by >> today's "Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter" - was that half of >> today's European men are descended from a single man who lived some >> 4,000 years ago. >> Leaving >> aside what happened to all the boys descended from the many >> thousands of other men alive at that time - let alone this man's >> close relations (mass >> genocide?) - how can people make such sweeping generalisations based >> on the DNA of just 1,200 people? I could better understand if the >> study was of a few million people. >> >> The same goes for this "Eve" person we are all meant to be descended > from. >> Was she the only female alive at the time? Did she wonder around >> Africa killing off all the others? >> >> Chris >>