Peter, thanks for the clarification (which was what I had surmised from the article). Shall sit back and await instructions <grin> Ken On 4 April 2016 at 17:25, Peter Copsey <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm just reading what it says in the article in the January Journal; that > the Guild is initiating a project for inferred marriage partners for > uploading into the GMI. It asks us to contact the Marriage Index > Coordinator (Cliff Kemball) if we can assist. Perhaps there will be some > guidance or proforma for submitting IMP marriages before the project gets > fully underway. > > Peter Copsey > Member 1522 > > -----Original Message----- From: Ken Toll > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 4:44 PM > To: Peter Copsey ; Goons mailing list > Cc: Robert Fowler > Subject: Re: [G] Members Spot Quiz - IMP on the GMI MM ??? Answers Provided > > > Hi Peter, > > Many thanks for the update. > > Just for clarity, I presume you are suggesting that not only should we > submit our 'own' marriages, but also those that can be determined by > IMP (Inferred Marriage Partners) on the same page? > > Ken > > On 4 April 2016 at 15:56, Peter Copsey via <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> 1. IMPs (Inferred Marriage Partners) are explained on p13 of the Jan >> -March >> 2016 Journal within the article about the future of the GMI written by >> Cliff >> Kemball and Anne Shankland. (not the latest Journal, now being received). >> >> 2. The article explains the benefit of including marriages with IMPs in >> the >> GMI. In the example given at the top of the second column, if I was >> researching FROST, I would be very pleased to find this entry in the GMI - >> it will give me the name of the spouse and possibly the church. >> >> 3. As I understand it, all marriages are now searchable, even the ones >> you >> have submitted yourself for your own study. This had caused confusion and >> frustration in the past. A big improvement - thanks Cliff and Anne. >> >> 4. The information will come from members who are able to work out IMPs >> for >> the other marriage on the same GRO page as their one-name marriage. This >> means that in about 80% of the marriages after 1851 you will be able to >> determine the IMPs of the other marriage on that GRO page. The other 20% >> are accounted for by those pages that only hold one marriage or where >> there >> is a GRO or FreeBMD error (and list 3 or 5 names). For marriages before >> 1852, IMP is a less-useful tool as pages often contain more than two >> marriages. I am hoping that members will spend some time discovering and >> listing the IMPs where they can, and sending them to the Marriage Index >> Coordinator. You need to be familiar with FreeBMD. >> >> Care will need to be taken about naming the establishment where the >> marriage >> took place. For an Anglican marriage, the IMP marriage would have taken >> place at the same Anglican church as the known marriage. For a >> non-anglican >> marriage, the place of the IMP marriage cannot be identified (except for >> marriages conducted by an "Authorised Person"). >> >> The date of the IMP marriage will not be known, except to say it will be >> in >> the same quarter as the known marriage. >> >> 5. For Marriage Challenge, if the submitter has been able to find a >> marriage already listed in the GMI, albeit with IMP, it may well identify >> the church; obviously a help to the Challenger in finding it in the >> registers. >> >> Regarding 3 or 5 names on one GRO page, always look at the actual GRO >> entry >> (click on the spectacles on FreeBMD). I estimate that over half are >> FreeBMD >> errors rather than GRO errors. >> >> Peter Copsey >> Member 1522 >> Marriage Challenge Coordinator >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Robert Fowler via >> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 7:06 AM >> To: Goons Forum >> Subject: [G] Members Spot Quiz - IMP on the GMI MM ??? Answers Provided >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> There has been zero discussion on this Forum about the IMP concept, >> mentioned in the Mar-Jun Journal 2016. So I have knocked together a quick >> quiz, for those that do not understand Inferred Marriage Partners. >> >> >> 1. What are IMP marriages? >> >> >> 2. What use are IMP marriages? >> >> >> 3. Will they be searchable on the GMI? >> >> >> 4. Where will the information come from? >> >> >> 5. Can we made it easier for Marriage Challengers? >> >> >> Before the answers, link to an even older article on the subject: >> >> http://www.one-name.org/members/journal/articles/vol11-9_Fowler.pdf >> >> >> 1. A simple concept for marriages 1852-1911 where four names are listed, >> if >> two are paired the remaining two can also be matched. >> >> >> 2. GMI is the source of all information we know about marriages for new >> members etc. The more information the better. >> >> >> 3. Not yet but soon, I am advised - but all my IMPs are already >> submitted. >> >> >> 4. From a detailed study of all Fowler marriages on the GMI, 90%+ >> currently >> come from MCs & CPs. >> >> >> 5 Yes Give them the information with your MC submission !!! >> >> >> The Hungerford MC closes on the 9th April, to see my suggestion for >> editing >> the standard submissions Excel: >> >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RTLPQUKaVn7wU-hpUp03CxNCVZBoVYPmFRjcbIoAxWw/edit#gid=1878539376 >> >> >> As the meerkat says - "SIMPLE". >> >> >> >> >> >> Why the initiative for this needs to come from me ? - No Idea, any >> support out there, on am I ploughing a lone furrough? >> >> >> >> Robert Fowler 5464 >> >> >> >> PS You can ask the Challenger for help with the odd 3 & 5 name >> records on FreeBMD !! >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > >