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    1. Re: [G] 1939 Register occupations
    2. John P Laws via

    3. Hi One-Namers Everywhere It is my view that Ancestry & FMP or whosoever undertook the transcription of our national records, paid their transcribers by quantity not by quality and that any vigilation was kept to a minimum. John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robin Border via Sent: 26 April, 2016 2:31 PM To: Peter Armstrong; [email protected] Subject: Re: [G] 1939 Register occupations Submitting dozens - its the only way we will get it right Robin Border > On 26 Apr 2016, at 13:56, Peter Armstrong via <[email protected]> wrote: > > I had one similarly transcribed as "???" which I could clearly read as > "Wholesale Merchant Dealing in Druggists Sundries Medicines Smallware > etc" - possibly the longest occupation description I have seen and > written in tiny handwriting! A correction was submitted and accepted > by FMP. I trust other folks are submitting their corrections to the 1939 Register. > > Regards, > Peter Armstrong > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adrian Abbott via" <[email protected]> > To: "Celia Dodd" <[email protected]>; "GOONS" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 1:32 PM > Subject: Re: [G] 1939 Register occupations > > >> Maybe we should have some sympathy for the transcribers, but one of >> mine where the original said quite clearly "Sulphate of Ammonia >> Worker in Bye-Product Works" was transcribed as "???" >> >> Adrian > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/26/2016 09:06:19
    1. Re: [G] 1939 Register occupations
    2. Penny Jones via

    3. Couldn't agree more. Think FMP have excelled themselves in their lack of vigilance. Makes me wonder just who they employed to transcribe and how much they were paid. Sent from my iPad > On 26 Apr 2016, at 15:06, John P Laws via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi One-Namers Everywhere > > It is my view that Ancestry & FMP or whosoever undertook the transcription > of our national records, paid their transcribers by quantity not by quality > and that any vigilation was kept to a minimum. > > > John P Laws > > Registrar > Laws Family Register > Putting Flesh on the Bones of History > > www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.co.uk > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Robin Border via > Sent: 26 April, 2016 2:31 PM > To: Peter Armstrong; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [G] 1939 Register occupations > > Submitting dozens - its the only way we will get it right Robin Border >> On 26 Apr 2016, at 13:56, Peter Armstrong via <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I had one similarly transcribed as "???" which I could clearly read as >> "Wholesale Merchant Dealing in Druggists Sundries Medicines Smallware >> etc" - possibly the longest occupation description I have seen and >> written in tiny handwriting! A correction was submitted and accepted >> by FMP. I trust other folks are submitting their corrections to the 1939 > Register. >> >> Regards, >> Peter Armstrong >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Adrian Abbott via" <[email protected]> >> To: "Celia Dodd" <[email protected]>; "GOONS" >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 1:32 PM >> Subject: Re: [G] 1939 Register occupations >> >> >>> Maybe we should have some sympathy for the transcribers, but one of >>> mine where the original said quite clearly "Sulphate of Ammonia >>> Worker in Bye-Product Works" was transcribed as "???" >>> >>> Adrian >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/26/2016 11:00:28
    1. Re: [G] 1939 Register occupations
    2. John Hanson via

    3. Penny The transcription of the 1939 Register was handled in the UK and was carried out a single column at a time. The columns were then "stitched" together to make the page up, goes some way to explain some of the errors that we see. If you haven't done already have a look at 1939register.info - put together by Peter Calver of Lost Cousins fame. If his newsletter is the one I always recommend these days. But just because the transcription looks wrong don't make assumptions, check the originals and then please make the corrections. I always do in the hope that someone will have corrected the ones that I am looking for. Also remember that it is easier to read something when you know what you are looking at rather than something strange. Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Penny Jones via Sent: 26 April 2016 17:00 To: John P Laws; [email protected] Subject: Re: [G] 1939 Register occupations Couldn't agree more. Think FMP have excelled themselves in their lack of vigilance. Makes me wonder just who they employed to transcribe and how much they were paid. Sent from my iPad > On 26 Apr 2016, at 15:06, John P Laws via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi One-Namers Everywhere > > It is my view that Ancestry & FMP or whosoever undertook the > transcription of our national records, paid their transcribers by > quantity not by quality and that any vigilation was kept to a minimum. > > > John P Laws > > Registrar > Laws Family Register > Putting Flesh on the Bones of History > > www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.co.uk > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Robin Border via > Sent: 26 April, 2016 2:31 PM > To: Peter Armstrong; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [G] 1939 Register occupations > > Submitting dozens - its the only way we will get it right Robin Border >> On 26 Apr 2016, at 13:56, Peter Armstrong via <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I had one similarly transcribed as "???" which I could clearly read >> as "Wholesale Merchant Dealing in Druggists Sundries Medicines >> Smallware etc" - possibly the longest occupation description I have >> seen and written in tiny handwriting! A correction was submitted and >> accepted by FMP. I trust other folks are submitting their corrections >> to the 1939 > Register. >> >> Regards, >> Peter Armstrong >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Adrian Abbott via" <[email protected]> >> To: "Celia Dodd" <[email protected]>; "GOONS" >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 1:32 PM >> Subject: Re: [G] 1939 Register occupations >> >> >>> Maybe we should have some sympathy for the transcribers, but one of >>> mine where the original said quite clearly "Sulphate of Ammonia >>> Worker in Bye-Product Works" was transcribed as "???" >>> >>> Adrian >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/26/2016 01:32:56
    1. Re: [G] 1939 Register occupations
    2. John Keith Coldwell via

    3. I have just completed 1939 census look-ups of some 1500 individuals (about 700 families) for my ONS. My guess is that the error rate on the transcripts was around 25 % to 50% and it proved absolutely essential to look at the images in every case to obtain more accuracy. What I found annoying was that many of the transcription errors were inexcusable as the image was clear and unambiguous. Even looking at the image does not work every time because the redaction of individuals has in some cases been badly done causing adjacent un-redacted lines to be obscured or partially obscured. Some transcribed surnames were incorrect so unfortunately the search function does not find all the names you are looking for and gives some you dont want. I have no idea how you can overcome that problem and I expect that I have missed several relevant entries. Overall the exercise was useful and I was able to add useful information to my ONS database. Coldwell 2172 On 26 April 2016 at 19:32, John Hanson via <[email protected]> wrote: > Penny > The transcription of the 1939 Register was handled in the UK and was carried > out a single column at a time. The columns were then "stitched" together to > make the page up, goes some way to explain some of the errors that we see. > > If you haven't done already have a look at 1939register.info - put together > by Peter Calver of Lost Cousins fame. If his newsletter is the one I always > recommend these days. > > But just because the transcription looks wrong don't make assumptions, check > the originals and then please make the corrections. I always do in the hope > that someone will have corrected the ones that I am looking for. > > Also remember that it is easier to read something when you know what you are > looking at rather than something strange. > > Regards > John Hanson > Researcher, The Halsted Trust > Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Penny Jones via > Sent: 26 April 2016 17:00 > To: John P Laws; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [G] 1939 Register occupations > > Couldn't agree more. Think FMP have excelled themselves in their lack of > vigilance. Makes me wonder just who they employed to transcribe and how much > they were paid. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 26 Apr 2016, at 15:06, John P Laws via <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi One-Namers Everywhere >> >> It is my view that Ancestry & FMP or whosoever undertook the >> transcription of our national records, paid their transcribers by >> quantity not by quality and that any vigilation was kept to a minimum. >> >> >> John P Laws >> >> Registrar >> Laws Family Register >> Putting Flesh on the Bones of History >> >> www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.co.uk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Robin Border via >> Sent: 26 April, 2016 2:31 PM >> To: Peter Armstrong; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [G] 1939 Register occupations >> >> Submitting dozens - its the only way we will get it right Robin Border >>> On 26 Apr 2016, at 13:56, Peter Armstrong via <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I had one similarly transcribed as "???" which I could clearly read >>> as "Wholesale Merchant Dealing in Druggists Sundries Medicines >>> Smallware etc" - possibly the longest occupation description I have >>> seen and written in tiny handwriting! A correction was submitted and >>> accepted by FMP. I trust other folks are submitting their corrections >>> to the 1939 >> Register. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Peter Armstrong >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Adrian Abbott via" <[email protected]> >>> To: "Celia Dodd" <[email protected]>; "GOONS" >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 1:32 PM >>> Subject: Re: [G] 1939 Register occupations >>> >>> >>>> Maybe we should have some sympathy for the transcribers, but one of >>>> mine where the original said quite clearly "Sulphate of Ammonia >>>> Worker in Bye-Product Works" was transcribed as "???" >>>> >>>> Adrian >>> >>> _____________________________________________ >>> >>> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >>> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Prof John K Coldwell Aiming to build a worldwide history of Coldwell people. Please join in! Facebook: Coldwell Genealogy Group Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org/profiles/coldwell.html Coldwell & Couldwell surname information: www.coldwell.info

    04/27/2016 01:39:27