I would appreciate any thoughts on this please. For some time, the Guild has had a project to look up post-2005 Birth Marriage and Death indexes in England and Wales. These indexes are not available online and can only be viewed on microfiche at a small number of locations in the UK: Birmingham Central Library Bridgend Reference and Information Library The British Library City of Westminster Archives Centre Greater Manchester County Record Office Plymouth Central Library For those who live outside the UK, or who are in the UK but not near one of the places where the records are available, it is difficult to access these records. The project was set up to enable entries to be searched and transcribed on behalf of members. The project has a co-ordinator who receives requests for look-ups for registered study names and passes these to a band of volunteers able to visit one of the places and extract the data. However, in practice we do not have these volunteers and the co-ordinator role is vacant - so we have no way to respond to any requests received. We think that this is still a potentially useful service for members, since these are key records for one-namers who have interests in England and Wales, and members who do not live near to the record offices are disadvantaged in terms of accessing these records. But without volunteers, the current process will not work. One suggestion is to try to see if this might work as a look up offer, rather than an ongoing project. If we could find members who are planning visits to one of the record offices and who might have some spare time, then they might make an offer to do some limited look ups. However, it is difficult to estimate the level of work that might be required to fulfil a request. For smaller names this might be manageable but for larger names this can become a significant task - which gets larger as additional years are added. In practice, few requests are currently being received. This may be because members are not aware the service is offered or perhaps there is little interest in these records. Should we seek to continue to offer this service and to look for volunteers who can help? Are there any alternative approaches that we might look at? Any thoughts welcome. Thank you. Stephen Daglish (4509) Volunteers Co-ordinator

Perhaps the Guild (also the Society of Genealogists and Federation of Family History Societies?) could ask/petition the GRO to provide or sell the microfiche to all Record Offices? It is some time now since they agreed to the below set of Libraries, that they may now be more amenable to the idea of the fiche being more widely distributed. More Members would be able to access them at their local R.O., and offer look-ups for those who cannot reach them. From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Daglish" <stephendaglish@btinternet.com> To: <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:09 PM Subject: [G] GRO Post-2005 BMD Transcription Project >I would appreciate any thoughts on this please. > > For some time, the Guild has had a project to look up post-2005 Birth > Marriage and Death indexes in England and Wales. These indexes are not > available online and can only be viewed on microfiche at a small number of > locations in the UK: > > Birmingham Central Library > Bridgend Reference and Information Library > The British Library > City of Westminster Archives Centre > Greater Manchester County Record Office > Plymouth Central Library > > For those who live outside the UK, or who are in the UK but not near one > of the places where the records are available, it is difficult to access > these records. > > The project was set up to enable entries to be searched and transcribed on > behalf of members. The project has a co-ordinator who receives requests > for look-ups for registered study names and passes these to a band of > volunteers able to visit one of the places and extract the data. > > However, in practice we do not have these volunteers and the co-ordinator > role is vacant - so we have no way to respond to any requests received. > > We think that this is still a potentially useful service for members, > since these are key records for one-namers who have interests in England > and Wales, and members who do not live near to the record offices are > disadvantaged in terms of accessing these records. But without volunteers, > the current process will not work. > > One suggestion is to try to see if this might work as a look up offer, > rather than an ongoing project. If we could find members who are planning > visits to one of the record offices and who might have some spare time, > then they might make an offer to do some limited look ups. > > However, it is difficult to estimate the level of work that might be > required to fulfil a request. For smaller names this might be manageable > but for larger names this can become a significant task - which gets > larger as additional years are added. > > In practice, few requests are currently being received. This may be > because members are not aware the service is offered or perhaps there is > little interest in these records. > > > Should we seek to continue to offer this service and to look for > volunteers who can help? Are there any alternative approaches that we > might look at? > Any thoughts welcome. > > Thank you. > Stephen Daglish (4509) > Volunteers Co-ordinator > _____________________________________________ > > Information and admin page: > http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Stephen I am not sure that it is now really a practical option A friend recently did the deaths and marriages for the Halstead study. 14 fiche for each option so with births a minimum of 42 for each name. But with my study I ended up with 58 photographs rather than the 28 one would expect as some of the fiche are not particularly clear. It then took my a long time to transcribe the 750 entries. Just my thoughts Regards John Hanson, researcher, the Halsted Trust, http://www.halstedresearch.org.uk New family history conference in 2018 http://www.secretlives.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: GOONS [mailto:goons-bounces+john.hanson=one-name.org@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Daglish Sent: 15 May 2017 21:10 To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] GRO Post-2005 BMD Transcription Project I would appreciate any thoughts on this please. For some time, the Guild has had a project to look up post-2005 Birth Marriage and Death indexes in England and Wales. These indexes are not available online and can only be viewed on microfiche at a small number of locations in the UK: Birmingham Central Library Bridgend Reference and Information Library The British Library City of Westminster Archives Centre Greater Manchester County Record Office Plymouth Central Library For those who live outside the UK, or who are in the UK but not near one of the places where the records are available, it is difficult to access these records. The project was set up to enable entries to be searched and transcribed on behalf of members. The project has a co-ordinator who receives requests for look-ups for registered study names and passes these to a band of volunteers able to visit one of the places and extract the data. However, in practice we do not have these volunteers and the co-ordinator role is vacant - so we have no way to respond to any requests received. We think that this is still a potentially useful service for members, since these are key records for one-namers who have interests in England and Wales, and members who do not live near to the record offices are disadvantaged in terms of accessing these records. But without volunteers, the current process will not work. One suggestion is to try to see if this might work as a look up offer, rather than an ongoing project. If we could find members who are planning visits to one of the record offices and who might have some spare time, then they might make an offer to do some limited look ups. However, it is difficult to estimate the level of work that might be required to fulfil a request. For smaller names this might be manageable but for larger names this can become a significant task - which gets larger as additional years are added. In practice, few requests are currently being received. This may be because members are not aware the service is offered or perhaps there is little interest in these records. Should we seek to continue to offer this service and to look for volunteers who can help? Are there any alternative approaches that we might look at? Any thoughts welcome. Thank you. Stephen Daglish (4509) Volunteers Co-ordinator _____________________________________________ Information and admin page: http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I guess these records are not top priority for most. For me it means a trip from Shropshire to Birmingham so really the best part of day so I have not bothered so far. Had they been online they would be in my database. The most useful are deaths so that the individual can be identified online. This is the group most likely to be in reconstructed trees. Marriages are next in priority, less common now but births are of limited interest particularly as many have the mother's name rather than the father's so difficult or impossible to place in a tree. Pre 1837 and worldwide records are more important to me currently. Colin Stevenson

I agree with Colin. I am so busy looking at earlier records that adding these post 2005 entries is low on my list. I would class the post 2005 deaths as higher priority to help finalise some families but I have plenty to keep on with until I can get them. For me it's a trip from Australia to gain these entries and that's not on the cards for a long time! However, if someone needs to fill a little bit of time at one of the places that holds these records I'd certainly appreciate the death entries for DATE and DATES and DATTE. [Not really likely to have any of the latter but I still check in case!] Cheerio Edwina Shooter WAGS Librarian Western Australia The DATE Tree with GOONS 5674 -----Original Message----- From: GOONS [mailto:goons-bounces+eshooter=exemail.com.au@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stevenson Sent: Wednesday, 17 May 2017 1:59 AM To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G] GRO Post-2005 BMD Transcription Project I guess these records are not top priority for most. For me it means a trip from Shropshire to Birmingham so really the best part of day so I have not bothered so far. Had they been online they would be in my database. The most useful are deaths so that the individual can be identified online. This is the group most likely to be in reconstructed trees. Marriages are next in priority, less common now but births are of limited interest particularly as many have the mother's name rather than the father's so difficult or impossible to place in a tree. Pre 1837 and worldwide records are more important to me currently. Colin Stevenson

Like Colin, I don't see this group as a priority. Anyone born after 2005 is still a minor and marriages are most likely young families getting started. If relatives offer me the information to include for their family, I do so but I don't actively search it out. Same with publicly posted info - if it is already on the internet, it's out there and I'll use it - but otherwise I don't go hunting for much after about 1960-70ish. I've got plenty of dead people before that to find first. Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com 'Peplers and Peplows' pepler.one-name.net ________________________________ From: Stephen Daglish <stephendaglish@btinternet.com> To: "goons@rootsweb.com" <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:56 AM Subject: [G] GRO Post-2005 BMD Transcription Project I would appreciate any thoughts on this please. For some time, the Guild has had a project to look up post-2005 Birth Marriage and Death indexes in England and Wales. These indexes are not available online and can only be viewed on microfiche at a small number of locations in the UK: Birmingham Central Library Bridgend Reference and Information Library The British Library City of Westminster Archives Centre Greater Manchester County Record Office Plymouth Central Library For those who live outside the UK, or who are in the UK but not near one of the places where the records are available, it is difficult to access these records. The project was set up to enable entries to be searched and transcribed on behalf of members. The project has a co-ordinator who receives requests for look-ups for registered study names and passes these to a band of volunteers able to visit one of the places and extract the data. However, in practice we do not have these volunteers and the co-ordinator role is vacant - so we have no way to respond to any requests received. We think that this is still a potentially useful service for members, since these are key records for one-namers who have interests in England and Wales, and members who do not live near to the record offices are disadvantaged in terms of accessing these records. But without volunteers, the current process will not work. One suggestion is to try to see if this might work as a look up offer, rather than an ongoing project. If we could find members who are planning visits to one of the record offices and who might have some spare time, then they might make an offer to do some limited look ups. However, it is difficult to estimate the level of work that might be required to fulfil a request. For smaller names this might be manageable but for larger names this can become a significant task - which gets larger as additional years are added. In practice, few requests are currently being received. This may be because members are not aware the service is offered or perhaps there is little interest in these records. Should we seek to continue to offer this service and to look for volunteers who can help? Are there any alternative approaches that we might look at? Any thoughts welcome. Thank you. Stephen Daglish (4509) Volunteers Co-ordinator _____________________________________________ Information and admin page: http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is, or was, a fantastic service. I, for one, live in Andorra and my visits to the UK are rare. If there are volunteers willing to help this would enhance my Burgum and Burgham One-Name-Study and, yes, is a rare name. If you are suffering few requests, I would like to add myself to the top of the list of requesters! Doug Burgum La Massana, Andorra Researching Burgum and Burgham (plus variants) Worldwide (Originally the family seems to have begun in the Forest of Dean) On 15 May 2017 at 22:09, Stephen Daglish <stephendaglish@btinternet.com> wrote: > I would appreciate any thoughts on this please. > > For some time, the Guild has had a project to look up post-2005 Birth Marriage and Death indexes in England and Wales. These indexes are not available online and can only be viewed on microfiche at a small number of locations in the UK: > > Birmingham Central Library > Bridgend Reference and Information Library > The British Library > City of Westminster Archives Centre > Greater Manchester County Record Office > Plymouth Central Library > > For those who live outside the UK, or who are in the UK but not near one of the places where the records are available, it is difficult to access these records. > > The project was set up to enable entries to be searched and transcribed on behalf of members. The project has a co-ordinator who receives requests for look-ups for registered study names and passes these to a band of volunteers able to visit one of the places and extract the data. > > However, in practice we do not have these volunteers and the co-ordinator role is vacant - so we have no way to respond to any requests received. > > We think that this is still a potentially useful service for members, since these are key records for one-namers who have interests in England and Wales, and members who do not live near to the record offices are disadvantaged in terms of accessing these records. But without volunteers, the current process will not work. > > One suggestion is to try to see if this might work as a look up offer, rather than an ongoing project. If we could find members who are planning visits to one of the record offices and who might have some spare time, then they might make an offer to do some limited look ups. > > However, it is difficult to estimate the level of work that might be required to fulfil a request. For smaller names this might be manageable but for larger names this can become a significant task - which gets larger as additional years are added. > > In practice, few requests are currently being received. This may be because members are not aware the service is offered or perhaps there is little interest in these records. > > > Should we seek to continue to offer this service and to look for volunteers who can help? Are there any alternative approaches that we might look at? > Any thoughts welcome. > > Thank you. > Stephen Daglish (4509) > Volunteers Co-ordinator > _____________________________________________ > > Information and admin page: > http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For information, and completeness, can I point out that the post-2005 BMD Indexes for England and Wales are also held at Newcastle Central Library. Regards, Phil Thirkell On 15/05/2017 21:09, Stephen Daglish wrote: > I would appreciate any thoughts on this please. > > For some time, the Guild has had a project to look up post-2005 Birth Marriage and Death indexes in England and Wales. These indexes are not available online and can only be viewed on microfiche at a small number of locations in the UK: > > Birmingham Central Library > Bridgend Reference and Information Library > The British Library > City of Westminster Archives Centre > Greater Manchester County Record Office > Plymouth Central Library > > For those who live outside the UK, or who are in the UK but not near one of the places where the records are available, it is difficult to access these records. > >