Both FreeBMD and FMP show 459 on the image, so this is an error in FMP’s transcription. I have posted an error report - maybe others have also done this? John. > On 15 Mar 2017, at 18:44, Tim Treeby <treeby@ttenterprises.co.uk> wrote: > > The problem is that > > FreeBMD has the page No as 459 > FMP has it as 458. > > This accounts for the discrepancies. > > Looking on Ancestry, under the Surrey Church of England Marriages > They have copy of PR showing George Berry marrying Julia Ann Chatterton > and on same page show Herbert George Dawes marrying Alice Eldred > > Marriage took place in Parish Church of St Peter in Croydon. > > This is one of the reasons why I find it is almost essential to subscribe to both Ancestry and FMP. > > Tim Treeby > GOONS : 7112 > > On 15/03/2017 14:49, LADAPeidrib@aol.com wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> I have an oddity that has turned up with using the FreeBMD and putting in >> for marriage of Julia Ann chatterton. The following comes up >> Marriages June 1897 Croydon 2a 459 >> Berry George >> Chatterton Julia Annie >> Dawes Herbert George >> Eldred Alice >> Herbert m Alice according to the 1901 census. No census entry for George >> Berry and Julia found >> If you put Julia Ann chatteron in FMP you get for 2nd Q 1897 Croydon >> Julia Annie Chatterton m William Marsh or Norman Lafone Ashburner >> I have found Julia a of the correct age married to William Marsh in 1901 >> census and by 1911 she is a widow but with 2 children that were with her in >> 1901 and their mother’s maiden name was Smith and they were born before >> the 1897 marriage. >> My problem is who did George Berry marry. According to FMP he married >> Alice Eldred but FMP also has Herbert George Dawes marrying Alice Eldred >> which ties up with the census. >> Can anyone help me with George Berry Please >> Regards >> Daphne Austin >> 2777 >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? >> http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? > http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, The SoG web site now contains an announcement regarding the LDS film collection currently at Kew: http://www.sog.org.uk/news/article/london-familysearch-centre-microfilm-collection-transferring-to-society-of Dai Bevan Gilbourne ONS

Folks, my apologies. The first few batches of my latest newsletter went out before an eagle-eyed member (you know who you are!) spotted that my link to the latest Journal was incorrect. I've fixed it and am sending out the rest of the letters. I hope the software behaves itself. If not. I will send the whole thing again. Apologies. here's a link to all of our recent Journals: http://one-name.org/journal-volume-12-2015/ Regards to all Paul -- Paul Howes Chairman, Guild of One-Name Studies www.howesfamilies.com Ponte Vedra, FL ; Horning, Norfolk

I have a copy of the book sitting within about a foot of my arm's reach. If anyone wants a look up please email me - julie.goucher@one-name.org It is also listed on the RAOGK page. I will, if I remember take the book to conference if anyone wants to look at it. Best, Julie On 16 March 2017 at 11:36, Bernard Juby <bjuby@wanadoo.fr> wrote: > I had a copy which we left with our daughter - along with the long-case > clock - when we moved to France. > I will ask whether she still has it? > Regards > Bernard Juby > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? > http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I had a copy which we left with our daughter - along with the long-case clock - when we moved to France. I will ask whether she still has it? Regards Bernard Juby

Paul Thomas gets a mention here http://www.clockrepairrochdale.com/Clock-Makers-Names-Index-M(2264558).htm Clock and Watchmakers Research call Us Now On 0845 468 0188 Clock And Watchmakers Research I saw this but says Birmingham not London. https://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Makers/Birmingham-TH-TN.html Regards Ann Spiro Guild ONS Representative for WA & NT. rep-australia-north-west@one-name.org Guild registered surnames: BASKETT; BRIGGS  http://www.one-name.org/ Baskett DNA Project: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Baskett

Thanks for doing that, and thanks to the other Guild members who helped. Its always useful to have resources collected together like that. Corinne Curtis #5579 On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 8:15 PM, RENNISON john.vayro@sky.com <john.vayro@sky.com> wrote: > Hi to all members > > Those who followed and contributed to the original conversation a few weeks back may be interested to know that the majority of the data in the form of URL links to Genealogical sites of interest to amateur historians and professional genealogists from the UDFHG Rennison's List have been assembled on a new page that can be found on > > http://one-name.org/wiki/guild-wiki/rennisonslist/ > > On this Wiki page there are separate sub-links to 30 individual categories that vary in size depending on the nature of the subject or topic. > > > I must express my thanks to Debbie Kennett, Kim Baldecchino and Julie Goucher for their guidance and help in keeping me on the straight and narrow and pointing me in the direction of solutions to problems I encountered during the production of these new Wiki pages. > > At present these URLs are to be retained as complete sets, but the ultimate aim may be to fully integrate the individual URLS into the main Guild Wiki pages. > > Hope members find these new pages useful > > I have to admit that I give no absolute guarantee that there all the 2300 links work, and if while visiting the sites a member finds a rogue URL or site, please could you notify me direct. > > Enjoy the brousing > > Rennison > > > > > > > > > Rennison's List on http://www.upperdalesfhg.org.uk/rennisons.htm > The Vayro Ancestry on http://www.vayro.one-name.net > Vayro Database on http://vayro.tribalpages.com/ > Vayro Guild of One-Name Studies Profile http://one-name.org/name_profile/vayro/ > Primary Design Technology Information http://www.rennisonprimarydesigntechnology.info/ > Searching for VAYRO, VARO, VARAH and variations worldwide > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? > http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Paul The SoG library has a copy should you wish any further help. They also have many other books by him including The Early Clockmakers of Great Britain. Nick member 4108 Chesson and variants On 15/03/2017 14:26, Paul Millington wrote: > Bit of a long shot, but does anyone have access to: > > Watchmakers and Clockmakers of the World by Brian Loomes. > > I am looking for information on Thomas Millington of London with reference > to a watch recently sold on Ebay and dated 1819. > > Regards, > > Paul Millington > Member No. 2181 >

Weird - I put in MIL and browsed and there are indeed two Thomas Millingtons in late 18th century in London - one in Wapping. But it does not say much tbh. And by scrolling back I get Dohoo as well. So it seems if you can put in anything which DOES give results, you can page backwards and forwards. Indexing is poor, I agree. Penelope Burton GOONS 4896

Hi to all members Those who followed and contributed to the original conversation a few weeks back may be interested to know that the majority of the data in the form of URL links to Genealogical sites of interest to amateur historians and professional genealogists from the UDFHG Rennison's List have been assembled on a new page that can be found on http://one-name.org/wiki/guild-wiki/rennisonslist/ On this Wiki page there are separate sub-links to 30 individual categories that vary in size depending on the nature of the subject or topic. I must express my thanks to Debbie Kennett, Kim Baldecchino and Julie Goucher for their guidance and help in keeping me on the straight and narrow and pointing me in the direction of solutions to problems I encountered during the production of these new Wiki pages. At present these URLs are to be retained as complete sets, but the ultimate aim may be to fully integrate the individual URLS into the main Guild Wiki pages. Hope members find these new pages useful I have to admit that I give no absolute guarantee that there all the 2300 links work, and if while visiting the sites a member finds a rogue URL or site, please could you notify me direct. Enjoy the brousing Rennison Rennison's List on http://www.upperdalesfhg.org.uk/rennisons.htm The Vayro Ancestry on http://www.vayro.one-name.net Vayro Database on http://vayro.tribalpages.com/ Vayro Guild of One-Name Studies Profile http://one-name.org/name_profile/vayro/ Primary Design Technology Information http://www.rennisonprimarydesigntechnology.info/ Searching for VAYRO, VARO, VARAH and variations worldwide

There is a 1947 (Baillie) edition on Ancestry, but I do not find a Millington (I know of it because there are two Questeds!): http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=WatchmakersClockmakersW&gss=sfs28_ms_db&new=1&rank=1&msT=1&MS_AdvCB=1&gsln=Quested&gsln_x=NN&MSAV=2&uidh=aa3 Penelope Burton GOONS 4896

1901 Census Entry can be found at RG13 - Piece 412 - Folio 61 - p 18 - Sch 139. Tim Treeby GOONS : 7112 On 15/03/2017 18:44, Tim Treeby wrote: > The problem is that > > FreeBMD has the page No as 459 > FMP has it as 458. > > This accounts for the discrepancies. > > Looking on Ancestry, under the Surrey Church of England Marriages > They have copy of PR showing George Berry marrying Julia Ann Chatterton > and on same page show Herbert George Dawes marrying Alice Eldred > > Marriage took place in Parish Church of St Peter in Croydon. > > This is one of the reasons why I find it is almost essential to > subscribe to both Ancestry and FMP. > > Tim Treeby > GOONS : 7112 > > On 15/03/2017 14:49, LADAPeidrib@aol.com wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> I have an oddity that has turned up with using the FreeBMD and >> putting in >> for marriage of Julia Ann chatterton. The following comes up >> Marriages June 1897 Croydon 2a 459 >> Berry George >> Chatterton Julia Annie >> Dawes Herbert George >> Eldred Alice >> Herbert m Alice according to the 1901 census. No census entry for >> George >> Berry and Julia found >> If you put Julia Ann chatteron in FMP you get for 2nd Q 1897 Croydon >> Julia Annie Chatterton m William Marsh or Norman Lafone Ashburner >> I have found Julia a of the correct age married to William Marsh in >> 1901 >> census and by 1911 she is a widow but with 2 children that were with >> her in >> 1901 and their mother’s maiden name was Smith and they were born >> before >> the 1897 marriage. >> My problem is who did George Berry marry. According to FMP he married >> Alice Eldred but FMP also has Herbert George Dawes marrying Alice >> Eldred >> which ties up with the census. >> Can anyone help me with George Berry Please >> Regards >> Daphne Austin >> 2777 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

The problem is that FreeBMD has the page No as 459 FMP has it as 458. This accounts for the discrepancies. Looking on Ancestry, under the Surrey Church of England Marriages They have copy of PR showing George Berry marrying Julia Ann Chatterton and on same page show Herbert George Dawes marrying Alice Eldred Marriage took place in Parish Church of St Peter in Croydon. This is one of the reasons why I find it is almost essential to subscribe to both Ancestry and FMP. Tim Treeby GOONS : 7112 On 15/03/2017 14:49, LADAPeidrib@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > I have an oddity that has turned up with using the FreeBMD and putting in > for marriage of Julia Ann chatterton. The following comes up > Marriages June 1897 Croydon 2a 459 > Berry George > Chatterton Julia Annie > Dawes Herbert George > Eldred Alice > Herbert m Alice according to the 1901 census. No census entry for George > Berry and Julia found > If you put Julia Ann chatteron in FMP you get for 2nd Q 1897 Croydon > Julia Annie Chatterton m William Marsh or Norman Lafone Ashburner > I have found Julia a of the correct age married to William Marsh in 1901 > census and by 1911 she is a widow but with 2 children that were with her in > 1901 and their mother’s maiden name was Smith and they were born before > the 1897 marriage. > My problem is who did George Berry marry. According to FMP he married > Alice Eldred but FMP also has Herbert George Dawes marrying Alice Eldred > which ties up with the census. > Can anyone help me with George Berry Please > Regards > Daphne Austin > 2777 > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? > http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

The Ancestry Insider has an interesting blog about the future of Family History Center microfilm here http://www.ancestryinsider.org/2017/03/future-of-family-history-center.html One assumes it is a sensitive subject for the Salt Lake City LDS chiefs and that is why the two previous London FHC announcements were removed! Regards, Peter Armstrong email: godsland@one-name.org Godsland One Name Study Researching GODSLAND, GOSLAND, GOSSLAND & similar variants World Wide Website: http://www.godsland.co.uk Member No.1987 of the Guild of One Name Studies Guild Website http://www.one-name.org/

I think there's a problem with the index for this document because Martin DOHOO is in the book, but doesn't come up when I do a search. So it's worth browsing. Sheila ___ Sheila Dohoo Faure #6766 Researching Dohoo, Doho, de Haut, Dehew -----Original Message----- From: GOONS [mailto:goons-bounces+sheila=faure.ca@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Penelope Burton Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:13 PM To: GOONS Subject: Re: [G] Thomas Millington, Watchmaker There is a 1947 (Baillie) edition on Ancestry, but I do not find a Millington (I know of it because there are two Questeds!): http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=WatchmakersClockmakersW&gss= sfs28_ms_db&new=1&rank=1&msT=1&MS_AdvCB=1&gsln=Quested&gsln_x=NN&MSAV=2&uidh =aa3 Penelope Burton GOONS 4896 _____________________________________________ RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bit of a long shot, but does anyone have access to: Watchmakers and Clockmakers of the World by Brian Loomes. I am looking for information on Thomas Millington of London with reference to a watch recently sold on Ebay and dated 1819. Regards, Paul Millington Member No. 2181

I don’t, but I have consulted it. I don’t suppose it helps you to know that it’s available at the Guildhall Library in London. However, it appears that “Watchmakers and Clockmakers of the World: Complete 21st Century Edition” by Brian Loomes is available from Amazon. See: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Watchmakers-Clockmakers-World-Complete-Century/dp/0 719803306. (Kindle edition is available for about £3.) The site shows the title page of the Loomes book, but when you open the preview, it appears to be the G. H. Baillie edition. ___ Sheila Dohoo Faure #6766 Researching Dohoo, Doho, de Haut, Dehew -----Original Message----- From: GOONS [mailto:goons-bounces+sheila=faure.ca@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul Millington Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:27 AM To: goons-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] Thomas Millington, Watchmaker Bit of a long shot, but does anyone have access to: Watchmakers and Clockmakers of the World by Brian Loomes. I am looking for information on Thomas Millington of London with reference to a watch recently sold on Ebay and dated 1819. Regards, Paul Millington Member No. 2181 _____________________________________________ RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone, I have an oddity that has turned up with using the FreeBMD and putting in for marriage of Julia Ann chatterton. The following comes up Marriages June 1897 Croydon 2a 459 Berry George Chatterton Julia Annie Dawes Herbert George Eldred Alice Herbert m Alice according to the 1901 census. No census entry for George Berry and Julia found If you put Julia Ann chatteron in FMP you get for 2nd Q 1897 Croydon Julia Annie Chatterton m William Marsh or Norman Lafone Ashburner I have found Julia a of the correct age married to William Marsh in 1901 census and by 1911 she is a widow but with 2 children that were with her in 1901 and their mother’s maiden name was Smith and they were born before the 1897 marriage. My problem is who did George Berry marry. According to FMP he married Alice Eldred but FMP also has Herbert George Dawes marrying Alice Eldred which ties up with the census. Can anyone help me with George Berry Please Regards Daphne Austin 2777

The article I was referring to was the second one to which Peter provided a link, I didn't read any other, which as you say has been taken down again. It didn't provide a link to the wills but it did mention how in time most of the films in digitalised format would be made available at FHCs and referred to a couple of collections which already are, one of which was the wills from 1858 - I'm pretty sure it said both the principal and regional registries. The link I gave is just for the former, but you will see the camera symbol showing the films are digitalised, but if you click one you get the message you have to view at an FHC. Teresa On 14/03/2017 10:43, Ken Toll wrote: > Teresa, can you clarify which article you are referring to and where > it is located, please. > > It looks as if the link Peter referred to has been taken down again, > but when I read it earlier, I couldn't find any link to digitised > wills :-( > > Ken > > On 14 March 2017 at 00:12, Teresa Goatham <teresa@goatham.co.uk> wrote: >> Thanks, I already have all the probate calendar info. - as I said, looking >> at Kew was already on my 'to do' list. I'd started looking for film nos. >> too, but I shan't now be needing them or winding film at Kew - the point is >> the article says that these films have all been digitalised and can be >> viewed at FHCs. (You just need to follow links from a list like the one >> here, >> https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/517092?availability=Family%20History%20Library, >> so you do NOT need to look up the film numbers as you describe. I'll be >> browsing thro' images of the film online.) >> >> Good to know it doesn't take too long with film, I don't know what the >> internet speed is at the nearest FHC but hopefully I'll be able to get to >> the right one without it taking too long. >> >> I hadn't realised original registers might be at the local record offices - >> must enquire. Not so convenient, but worth trying for post 1925 wills. >> >> Teresa >> >> >> >> On 13/03/2017 21:00, Polly Rubery wrote: >>> Teresa wrote: >>> >>>>> I'm not sure how long >>> browsing through a film to find one will take; I guess it will be >>> quicker online than on film.<< >>> >>> Before you go do a search on Ancestry in the National Probate Calendars >>> (Index). >>> >>> You need the information: >>> >>> Place (District Probate Registry or PPR-London) of Probate, Date of >>> Probate, >>> Surname, Forename >>> >>> You then need to find the film which covers the correct DPR and date. >>> Then >>> you will find that the probates are arranged by Date of Probate, and then >>> in >>> name order on that date. Other than the time spent winding film it >>> doesn't >>> take much time at all. >>> >>> Many of the original registers (up to around 1940) can be found in the >>> local >>> Record Offices which the DPR was in - so for example Worcester is at The >>> Hive in Worcester, and The Library of Birmingham has those proved by the >>> B'ham DPR. Unfortunately the Hereford DPR closed in 1928, and the >>> registers >>> are at the National Library of Wales..... >>> HTH >>> Polly >>> >>> _____________________________________________ >>> >>> RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? >>> http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? >> http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? > http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi All, I have come across a problem which I hope someone can solve; in a transcript of the Statuary Register of Scotland of the marriage of a William Douglas MINGAY which is said to have taken place in recent times it gives the bride as Deborah Ann SWANSON but then adds three other males all with given names of William Douglas but each with a different surname, viz GARDNER, NARRIE, WESTWOOD. At first I thought that they might have been the names of her previous husbands, as has occurred in other entries, but this I doubt because of her age, even gave some thought that they might be witnesses but there is no evidence to support that idea. The idea that the groom has changed his surname several times also sprung to mind, if so why? So what else can be the explanation? Maybe that someone more familiar with those Registers could offer a suggested reason behind this puzzle of mine. Regards Tony. Anthony John Mingay Member of the Guild of One Name Studies, 1985 (once of Kent & Suffolk now in NZ but still researching the surname MINGAY and its variants Worldwide.