Garry Both of Blaine Bettinger's books are useful resources. Blaine also has an excellent blog: http://thegeneticgenealogist.com/ There is an autosomal DNA portal in the ISOGG Wiki which includes articles with links to reliable sources: https://isogg.org/wiki/Portal:Autosomal_DNA AncestryDNA have provided some excellent educational material: https://isogg.org/wiki/AncestryDNA#AncestryDNA_videos I particularly recommend watching their video on DNA Circles which includes a lot of useful background information on how DNA inheritance works: https://www.ancestry.com/academy/course/ancestry-dna-circles There are also lots of DNA videos online from Genetic Genealogy Ireland and Who Do You Think You Are? Live: DNA lectures at WDYTYA Live: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHnW2NAfPIA2KUipZ_PlUlw Genetic Genealogy Ireland: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7HQSiSkiy7ujlkgQER1FYw The recordings from this year's WDYTYA Live show should be going online in the next few weeks. If you have any specific questions you can always ask here and we can see if we can help. Best wishes Debbie Kennett https://cruwys.blogspot.co.uk

> From: Garry F Bell > Sent: 09 April 2017 07:13 > > Is there a publication available that gives detailed help as to how one > analyses their Autosomal DNA matches? I thought I had it all worked > out but now I am having second thoughts I'd recommend working through Blaine' Bettinger's book "Genetic Genealogy in Practice" (I got it on Kindle). It takes you systematically through a wide range of issues, though it may not deal directly with whatever problem it is you are wrestling with. Best wishes Andrew -- Andrew Millard - A.R.Millard@durham.ac.uk Chair, Trustees of Genuki: www.genuki.org.uk Maintainer, Genuki Middx + London: www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/MDX/ + ../LND/ Academic Co-ordinator, Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Bodimeade one-name study: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/Bodimeade/ My genealogy: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/

Try this blog - very well written: http://smithplanet.com/stuff/gedmatch.htm Just found it this week. Best regards, Mike Carragher Sent from my iPhone On Apr 9, 2017, at 2:14 AM, Garry F Bell <hellolad@slingshot.co.nz<mailto:hellolad@slingshot.co.nz>> wrote: Hi Folks Is there a publication available that gives detailed help as to how one analyses their Autosomal DNA matches? I thought I had it all worked out but now I am having second thoughts With thanks Garry F Bell _____________________________________________ A walk around the website, by Kim Baldacchino, our webmaster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sEz8qKJvcE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:GOONS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Garry, Have you checked out Roberta Estes' "DNAeXplained" blog? Roberta is a prolific poster on numerous topics related to genetic genealogy, but the topic of what to do with autosomal matches is probably her specialty. You can subscribe to her blog and wait a bit for the topic to come round, or you can browse through her "Categories", "Archives", and "Recent Posts". If you intend to be a serious student of autosomal bloodhounding, I would highly recommend Roberta. -Mark Bunch #6223 _____________________________________________ Hi Folks Is there a publication available that gives detailed help as to how one analyses  their Autosomal DNA matches?  I thought I had it all worked out but now I am having second thoughts With thanks Garry F Bell  _____________________________________________

I assume you checked out the website section on DNA which has lots of information. Hilary Member 6907 On 9 April 2017 at 07:13, Garry F Bell <hellolad@slingshot.co.nz> wrote: > Hi Folks > > Is there a publication available that gives detailed help as to how one > analyses their Autosomal DNA matches? I thought I had it all worked out > but now I am having second thoughts > > With thanks > Garry F Bell > _____________________________________________ > > A walk around the website, by Kim Baldacchino, our webmaster: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sEz8qKJvcE > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Pat, John and otehrs who sent information on the BRINNS family. I have sent it on to Linda who appreciates this very much and asks me to thank you all. Kind regards Ann Spiro Perth There's a Joseph Bardrick living at 50 Lilyville Rd Fulham, on both 1901 and 1911 censuses, described as a Black farrier in 1901 and Farrier in 1911. John Brinn (Farrier) is at 2 West St Pimlico in 1911, which is about 5 miles away. In 1901 he's at 4 Ducking Pond Mews (described as Farrier, Black) which is about 4 miles from Lilyville Rd. The forge may not actually have been where Joseph Bardrick lived, if so it's changed a lot from how it is now on Google street view, but this seems to be the right person.

There's a Joseph Bardrick living at 50 Lilyville Rd Fulham, on both 1901 and 1911 censuses, described as a Black farrier in 1901 and Farrier in 1911. John Brinn (Farrier) is at 2 West St Pimlico in 1911, which is about 5 miles away. In 1901 he's at 4 Ducking Pond Mews (described as Farrier, Black) which is about 4 miles from Lilyville Rd. The forge may not actually have been where Joseph Bardrick lived, if so it's changed a lot from how it is now on Google street view, but this seems to be the right person. Pat Hanby, Reading, UK Message: 1 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 13:04:11 +0800 From: SBS Engineers Research <research@sbse.net.au> To: <goons@rootsweb.com> Subject: [G] Shoeing Forge Message-ID: <8475C7A7646CE441B5720074EA50C08679D1F3@refairs1.RefAir.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Good morning/afternoon list. I trying to help a lady (Linda) find information on a shoeing forge owned by J Bardrick in approx 1900. I have tried googling for information, to no avail. Linda says: John Brinn, farrier. Born 7th April 1882, London, England. John lived in Pimlico London and worked for J Bardrick Shoeing Forge. I have a photo of him standing outside with a group of fellow workers as a young man. I haven't any ide where Bardricks was situated. He married Alice Watling in 1904. Hoping someone on this list might have an idea where to look. Kind regards Ann Spiro Perth, Western Australia research@sbse.net.au Guild One-Name Studies Representative for WA & NT. rep-australia-north-west@one-name.org Guild registered surnames: BASKETT; BRIGGS http://www.one-name.org/ Baskett DNA Project: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Baskett

Dear John, Thank you very much. I have advised Linda join the London email list and ask questions there as well. I'll send this on. I don't know why I couldn't see him on the census. Once again, thank you. Kind regards Ann Spiro Ann, in the 1901 census he is listed along with his father Edward as a carman and he is down as farrier/blacksmith in the quaintly names Ducking Pond Mews St Geo H Sq, in 1911 he is listed ,along with Alice and 3 daug Helen 6 Norma 3 & Esther 1 as a farrier living 2 West St Pimlico St Geo H Sq so I would assume that the forge was in that area

Good morning/afternoon list. I trying to help a lady (Linda) find information on a shoeing forge owned by J Bardrick in approx 1900. I have tried googling for information, to no avail. Linda says: John Brinn, farrier. Born 7th April 1882, London, England. John lived in Pimlico London and worked for J Bardrick Shoeing Forge. I have a photo of him standing outside with a group of fellow workers as a young man. I haven't any ide where Bardricks was situated. He married Alice Watling in 1904. Hoping someone on this list might have an idea where to look. Kind regards Ann Spiro Perth, Western Australia research@sbse.net.au Guild One-Name Studies Representative for WA & NT. rep-australia-north-west@one-name.org Guild registered surnames: BASKETT; BRIGGS http://www.one-name.org/ Baskett DNA Project: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Baskett

There is the following on 1901 census that looks a possibility RG 13/65, Fol 41, En Dst 2, Schd 235 50 Lillyville Road, Fulham Joseph Bardrick, Head, M, 38, Blacks Farrier, , London Marylebone Elizabeth Bardrick, Wife, M, 30, , , London Pimlico Edith Bardrick, Daur, S, 6, , , London Chelsea Joseph Bardrick, Son, S, 3, , , London Chelsea Marjorie Bardrick, Dau, S 1, , , London Fulham Edith Yates, Vis, S, 18, Dressmaker, worker, London Chelsea Agnes Hutchins, Srv, S, 14, Nursegirl? (Domestic), ,Bucks Steventon? Some electoral roll entries list him as same address as Joseph Albert Bardrick, and 50 Lillyville is a dwelling house so not place of business John Blake Pudsey, England GOONS registered ONS for Auty/Awty/Autie surname (member 5691) http://www.one-name.org/profiles/auty.html Auty Database http://www.auty.one-name.net Auty DNA Project http://www.familytreedna.com/Public/auty

Ann, in the 1901 census he is listed along with his father Edward as a carman and he is down as farrier/blacksmith in the quaintly names Ducking Pond Mews St Geo H Sq, in 1911 he is listed ,along with Alice and 3 daug Helen 6 Norma 3 & Esther 1 as a farrier living 2 West St Pimlico St Geo H Sq so I would assume that the forge was in that area On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:04 AM, SBS Engineers Research <research@sbse.net.au> wrote: > Good morning/afternoon list. > I trying to help a lady (Linda) find information on a shoeing forge > owned by J Bardrick in approx 1900. I have tried googling for > information, to no avail. > > Linda says: John Brinn, farrier. Born 7th April 1882, London, England. > John lived in Pimlico London and worked for J Bardrick Shoeing Forge. I > have a photo of him standing outside with a group of fellow workers as a > young man. I haven't any ide where Bardricks was situated. He married > Alice Watling in 1904. > > Hoping someone on this list might have an idea where to look. > > Kind regards > Ann Spiro > Perth, Western Australia > research@sbse.net.au > Guild One-Name Studies Representative for WA & NT. > rep-australia-north-west@one-name.org > Guild registered surnames: BASKETT; BRIGGS http://www.one-name.org/ > Baskett DNA Project: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Baskett > > > > _____________________________________________ > > A walk around the website, by Kim Baldacchino, our webmaster: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sEz8qKJvcE > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello John, I don't think so. Your concerns are similary to mine which is why I still have not put my tree on any web site as yet! I did asearch of my surname withover 600 finds. Over 540 were still alive. Derek Kain On 1 April 2017 at 16:56, John Keith Coldwell <johnkcoldwell@gmail.com> wrote: > I remain concerned that > supporting this site might be supporting a source of data which could be > used by those unscrupulous people seeking to steal identities. Am I being > over cautious? > > -- > Prof John K Coldwell > _____________________________________________ > > A walk around the website, by Kim Baldacchino, our webmaster: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sEz8qKJvcE > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- One-name Study of KAIN and variants. GOONS member 5992

Most of my data comes from pubilc sources (free and paid for). I am guessing but I think that familytreenow also gets data from a large number of public sources and the company then correlates the information to produce comprehensive details on a particular person and then makes it available on a free public site. Technically any genealogist could do this but I expect the average beginner would have some difficulties pulling together such a range of details on one person. So in fact the publically available data on familytreenow is not truly public information because of their hidden added value. My personal view is that we should respect the 100 year rule in any of our published data. I remain concerned that supporting this site might be supporting a source of data which could be used by those unscrupulous people seeking to steal identities. Am I being over cautious? -- Prof John K Coldwell

An interesting article that presents two search sites for each of the 50 states. They will vary in scope and quality but the key word here is "free" http://familyhistorydaily.com/genealogy-help-and-how-to/free-genealogy-sites-all-usa-states/ Bob Young RangerONS (2940)

Don't think Radaris has been mentioned before - it's a public records search engine for the US. https://radaris.com/ ....I've found it useful as a premise for further research. The basic info is free - then, of course, payment is required for greater details. best Anne H. 1020 Lyford

That's interesting - thanks John. I know that my Appleby chap was literate, but if they kept people in holding areas prior to deportation, that might be a possible source of some records??? Sue Sue Mastel London, UK Adamthwaite Archive Appleby DNA Project

California and Texas operate pretty liberal access to birth, marriage and divorce records online in the 20th century. I usually get delighted when I find folk in those States when it comes to DNA recruitment - you can identify them specifically through that, and use of several on-line databases in the USA, although mostly hidden behind pay-per-view systems, can usually enable you get an address and often a phone number. Brian -----Original Message----- From: GOONS [mailto:goons-bounces+bps=norvic8.force9.co.uk@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Keith Coldwell Sent: 30 March 2017 06:40 To: GOONS mailing list Subject: Re: [G] Family Tree Now A very useful and surprising collection. I am not up to speed on identity theft/privacy issues and I was surprised to find my 23 year old Texan granddaughter listed with addresses and phone numbers. What a contrast with the UK 1939 census where we are only allowed to see dead people etc. John 2172

Yes, the data comes from public sources... so it says at least. I sincerely doubt that this is not the case based on what the data is (not arrests, court cases, tax nonpayment, etc.). However, FamilyTreeNow is much better than any other public data web site (eg. Switchboard, Intellus, PeopleFinder and others) which I've tried in the United States (and were free) because it gives you far, far more datacollected together all in one place/screen. It's been a great relief to use it because I was finally able to pull together several people into families who are basically still living or have been up until recently. Let's hope they aren't just using this as "chum" and will pull much of it behind a paywall once you are hooked. We'll see. Take care... Peter Bradish, #6924, Titusville, FL USA On 3/30/2017 10:53 AM, Jim Culbert wrote: > The website says the data comes from public sources. This notice is > at the bottom of ever set of data retrieved. > > Jim Culbert > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 10:39 PM, John Keith Coldwell > <johnkcoldwell@gmail.com> wrote: >> A very useful and surprising collection. I am not up to speed on identity >> theft/privacy issues and I was surprised to find my 23 year old Texan >> granddaughter listed with addresses and phone numbers. What a contrast with >> the UK 1939 census where we are only allowed to see dead people etc. >> >> John 2172 >> >> On 29 March 2017 at 22:48, Gene Prescott<prescottg@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Has info on my son who died in 2009. I will be busy for the rest of my >>> life! >>> Gene Prescott >>> Greenville, NC >>> >>> Guild of One-Name Studies:http://prescott.one-name.net/ >>> index.php/Main_Page >>> >>> >>> >>> C. Eugene Prescott, CPA web/blogsite:http://taxtechcpa.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Ken Toll<toll.study@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Excellent. Found my son in PA, with his wife. Also his static caravan >>>> and several previous addresses. He's only been there 8 years and has >>>> already created more publicly available records records than he did in >>>> the UK! >>>> >>>> Lots of TOLLs to explore - I see months if not years of fun! >>>> >>>> Ken >>>> >>>> >>>> On 29 March 2017 at 18:21, Brian Yare<brian@yare.org> wrote: >>>>> Fantastic, lots of Yares there. And I checked out my living daughter no >>>>> longer a Yare) and the details seemed good. >>>>> >>>>> I see hours, if not days, of fun with this site. >>>>> >>>>> Brian Yare >>>>> #5831 Yare >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: GOONS [mailto:goons-bounces+brian=yare.org@rootsweb.com] On >>> Behalf Of >>>>> Jim Culbert >>>>> Sent: 29 March 2017 18:08 >>>>> To:goons@rootsweb.com >>>>> Subject: [G] Family Tree Now >>>>> >>>>> For those seeking family connections for people in the U.S., a new >>> website I >>>>> have recently discovered may be helpful: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.familytreenow.com/search/genealogy/results >>>>> >>>>> If you know or suspect a persons place of residence, you can search the >>>>> database and information about those people that meet your search >>> criteria >>>>> will be returned. What is really interesting is that these data on >>>>> individuals also include links to possible relatives and possible >>>>> associates, which are in many cases also relatives. >>>>> >>>>> Where I find this site really useful is in fleshing out information >>> found in >>>>> recent obituaries. For a fictitious example, Robert Culbert's 2016 >>> obituary >>>>> shows a surviving son, John, with wife Tracy, living in Pittsburgh, >>>>> Pennsylvania. I can enter this information into the website search >>> fields, >>>>> and almost always find both John and Tracy in the database. >>>>> >>>>> This data is compiled from U.S. public record sources, including >>> property, >>>>> business, historical, and directories. >>>>> >>>>> I have checked the accuracy of my own listing. Although it is not 100 >>>>> percent correct, it does accurately show my possible relatives and >>> possible >>>>> associates as other relatives. The addresses are accurate, but the >>> dates >>>>> pertaining to them are not. The phone number history is accurate in >>> all but >>>>> one case. >>>>> >>>>> I hope the foregoing is useful. >>>>> >>>>> Jim Culbert > _____________________________________________ > > A walk around the website, by Kim Baldacchino, our webmaster: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sEz8qKJvcE > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toGOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good afternoon all, One thing to be cognizant of with this site is that it returns 'generic' surnames in the 'Living People' category, rather than the specific one you wanted to search on. For instance, my project is MURDUCK, and I entered that spelling into the surname search box. The database returned 333 instances of names flagged as MURDUCK, in the 'Living People' category, but closer inspection shows that they were, for the most part, MURDOCK. It would take hours of work just to review each 'hit', discard the MURDOCK examples, and keep the very few MURDUCK examples. I see no way to qualify the surname search to 'exact' spellings, unless I'm missing something. At least most of the 'Census', 'Birth', 'Death', and other categories returned true instances of MURDUCK records. Bruce Murduck Sydenham, Ontario, Canada > Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 09:08:11 -0700 > From: Jim Culbert <jhculbert@gmail.com> > To: goons@rootsweb.com > Subject: [G] Family Tree Now > Message-ID: > <CAFF4BZOmLJUNpxrjPGPPm4VpdwK140Y3p85xUEdvoXYO12joBA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > For those seeking family connections for people in the U.S., a new website > I have recently discovered may be helpful: > > http://www.familytreenow.com/search/genealogy/results > > If you know or suspect a persons place of residence, you can search the > database and information about those people that meet your search criteria > will be returned. What is really interesting is that these data on > individuals also include links to possible relatives and possible > associates, which are in many cases also relatives. > > Where I find this site really useful is in fleshing out information found > in recent obituaries. For a fictitious example, Robert Culbert's 2016 > obituary shows a surviving son, John, with wife Tracy, living in > Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I can enter this information into the website > search fields, and almost always find both John and Tracy in the database. > > This data is compiled from U.S. public record sources, including property, > business, historical, and directories. > > I have checked the accuracy of my own listing. Although it is not 100 > percent correct, it does accurately show my possible relatives and possible > associates as other relatives. The addresses are accurate, but the dates > pertaining to them are not. The phone number history is accurate in all > but one case. > > I hope the foregoing is useful. > > Jim Culbert > > > ------------------------------

The website says the data comes from public sources. This notice is at the bottom of ever set of data retrieved. Jim Culbert On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 10:39 PM, John Keith Coldwell <johnkcoldwell@gmail.com> wrote: > A very useful and surprising collection. I am not up to speed on identity > theft/privacy issues and I was surprised to find my 23 year old Texan > granddaughter listed with addresses and phone numbers. What a contrast with > the UK 1939 census where we are only allowed to see dead people etc. > > John 2172 > > On 29 March 2017 at 22:48, Gene Prescott <prescottg@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Has info on my son who died in 2009. I will be busy for the rest of my >> life! >> Gene Prescott >> Greenville, NC >> >> Guild of One-Name Studies: http://prescott.one-name.net/ >> index.php/Main_Page >> >> >> >> C. Eugene Prescott, CPA web/blogsite: http://taxtechcpa.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Ken Toll <toll.study@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Excellent. Found my son in PA, with his wife. Also his static caravan >> > and several previous addresses. He's only been there 8 years and has >> > already created more publicly available records records than he did in >> > the UK! >> > >> > Lots of TOLLs to explore - I see months if not years of fun! >> > >> > Ken >> > >> > >> > On 29 March 2017 at 18:21, Brian Yare <brian@yare.org> wrote: >> >> Fantastic, lots of Yares there. And I checked out my living daughter no >> >> longer a Yare) and the details seemed good. >> >> >> >> I see hours, if not days, of fun with this site. >> >> >> >> Brian Yare >> >> #5831 Yare >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: GOONS [mailto:goons-bounces+brian=yare.org@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of >> >> Jim Culbert >> >> Sent: 29 March 2017 18:08 >> >> To: goons@rootsweb.com >> >> Subject: [G] Family Tree Now >> >> >> >> For those seeking family connections for people in the U.S., a new >> website I >> >> have recently discovered may be helpful: >> >> >> >> http://www.familytreenow.com/search/genealogy/results >> >> >> >> If you know or suspect a persons place of residence, you can search the >> >> database and information about those people that meet your search >> criteria >> >> will be returned. What is really interesting is that these data on >> >> individuals also include links to possible relatives and possible >> >> associates, which are in many cases also relatives. >> >> >> >> Where I find this site really useful is in fleshing out information >> found in >> >> recent obituaries. For a fictitious example, Robert Culbert's 2016 >> obituary >> >> shows a surviving son, John, with wife Tracy, living in Pittsburgh, >> >> Pennsylvania. I can enter this information into the website search >> fields, >> >> and almost always find both John and Tracy in the database. >> >> >> >> This data is compiled from U.S. public record sources, including >> property, >> >> business, historical, and directories. >> >> >> >> I have checked the accuracy of my own listing. Although it is not 100 >> >> percent correct, it does accurately show my possible relatives and >> possible >> >> associates as other relatives. The addresses are accurate, but the >> dates >> >> pertaining to them are not. The phone number history is accurate in >> all but >> >> one case. >> >> >> >> I hope the foregoing is useful. >> >> >> >> Jim Culbert