Yeah, right... "no pun intended". You meant every word of it and rightly proud. ;) Doug Beezley On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:17 PM, Stephanie Ray <netnuevo@gmail.com> wrote: > Just a thought, but how about Hitchcock? > > The name of the director carries a lot of weight here in the States, > no pun intended! > > Best regards, > Stephanie > > Admin, Cobb DNA project > Member #5587, Guild of One Name Studies > _____________________________________________ > > Information and admin page: > http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It depends <grin>. For 90% (nice round number) of my families I just have the spouse as "Mary [--?--]" with an approximate data / place of birth - this is a quick approach to enable me to process people quickly. However, if I am digging for information on behalf of someone else, then I will try and find Mary's parents by looking (for example) at the Census prior to her marriage. Where I am digging in a small community, then I may well follow a few families as it is likely that they will inter-marry. For my own ancestors - then I go off down all branches and do not limit my work to just the registered name. Regards Chris -----Original Message----- From: GOONS [mailto:goons-bounces+christopher.gray=gray-ons.org@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ken Toll Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 3:05 PM To: Goons mailing list Subject: Re: [G] Scope of an ONS - Spouses families I guess mine process is very similar to other responses. However, I do very it a bit according to circumstances... Where Descendants of people in my ONS volunteer information, I add it to the Trees (with their permission) and credit them as the source. This gives a degree of 'buy-in' to my ONS from people who may not hold the name, but have a strong family link. Always bear in mind that things like Bibles and photos often disappear down the female line, and having those names in your Trees can act as bait <grin> My other exceptions are in small or sparse communities where: - Cousins intermarry, and - Siblings intermarry with the 'children' of a neighboring farm. Studying the wider family can often help untangle complicated relationships. Ken

Interesting question and discussion. I've felt that I have been rather restrictive because the first interest of most people in their genealogy is ancestors of all surnames. Without limits, there is a lot of "spread". When I first got started in genealogy I, of course, sought all my ancestors (then all my wife's ancestors) but then chose certain surnames of interest to me to develop descendants of the earliest ancestor of that name. I did ALL descendants and parents of spouses, but sometimes a story would lead me in other directions. When my interest became stronger in my own surname, Beezley, I continued with all descendants including spouses and spouse's parents. Then I started working with Beezley's not related to me and finally to full ONS scope... all variations (Beasley, the most prevalent). Now that I've expanded to the point that I have nearly 100 lineage trees, I now stick with only Beasley-named descendants and spouses. HOWEVER... whenever I get a project participant who is not bearing the Beasley surname, I include their full pedigree to their Beasley ancestor so all can see how they connect to the projects. One of my most active participants is connected by her great-grandmother whose maiden name was Beezley. I do find that a somewhat more "liberal" inclusion policy is helpful for finding clues based on autosomal DNA. All my lineage trees or Patriarch Trees are defined, wherever possible, by YDNA Haplotype. But sometimes there are no male descendants and autosomal is the only way to get a window into the past. Doug Beezley Cincinnati OH On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 3:07 PM, <christopher.gray@gray-ons.org> wrote: > It depends <grin>. For 90% (nice round number) of my families I just have > the spouse as "Mary [--?--]" with an approximate data / place of birth - > this is a quick approach to enable me to process people quickly. However, > if I am digging for information on behalf of someone else, then I will try > and find Mary's parents by looking (for example) at the Census prior to her > marriage. Where I am digging in a small community, then I may well follow a > few families as it is likely that they will inter-marry. > > For my own ancestors - then I go off down all branches and do not limit my > work to just the registered name. > > Regards > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: GOONS > [mailto:goons-bounces+christopher.gray=gray-ons.org@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of Ken Toll > Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 3:05 PM > To: Goons mailing list > Subject: Re: [G] Scope of an ONS - Spouses families > > I guess mine process is very similar to other responses. > > However, I do very it a bit according to circumstances... > > Where Descendants of people in my ONS volunteer information, I add it to the > Trees (with their permission) and credit them as the source. > This gives a degree of 'buy-in' to my ONS from people who may not hold the > name, but have a strong family link. Always bear in mind that things like > Bibles and photos often disappear down the female line, and having those > names in your Trees can act as bait <grin> > > My other exceptions are in small or sparse communities where: > - Cousins intermarry, and > - Siblings intermarry with the 'children' of a neighboring farm. > Studying the wider family can often help untangle complicated relationships. > > Ken > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Information and admin page: > http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I LOVE all these answers. Thank you all! My own personal winners would be MDKA or EKA. I actually use Patriarch a lot because my primary objective is identifying YDNA Haplotype (an excuse for side-stepping Matriarch, although, fact of the matter is that females are the name-giver at times. Mainly I need to settle on a terminology to use consistently with my ONS peeps. Thank you one and all! Doug On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 8:01 AM, Allan Beeby <allan.beeby@gmail.com> wrote: > A term used in South Africa is stam-vader, a rough translation would > "father of the tribe" > > Allan Beeby > GOONS 6519 (BEEBY) > > On 23 April 2017 at 02:46, Marie Byatt <morris12m@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> Don't forget Founder as in Founding Fathers >> >> >> Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A >> Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' >> http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study >> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and >> Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com >> 'Peplers and Peplows' pepler.one-name.net >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: "laptop@strudwicke.com" <laptop@strudwicke.com> >> To: goons@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [G] Searching for a word (or phrase) >> >> >> >> Seems there is not a common term, but plenty of alternatives so far. A term >> I use when dealing with written pedigrees is 'treetop'. >> 'Progenitor', already mentioned, or perhaps 'primogenitor' would be my >> pick >> of the bunch. >> cheers >> Marcus Strudwicke >> Mallala, Australia >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Information and admin page: >> http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Information and admin page: >> http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > _____________________________________________ > > Information and admin page: > http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi David, Added to what I just said. If a wife remarries then I record her new husbands full name and date of Marriage and that is as far as it goes unless she remarries a brother of the deceased husband or someone else that carries the Grimason / Grimeson / Grimison surname in my ONS. Regards, David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the "Grimason" surname World Wide. A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS): 6138 formerly 2962 The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some. On 23/04/2017 4:08 PM, Sherlock Holmes wrote: > Hi David, > With my ONS (One Name Study)what I do is record all the wife details > from birth to death I exclude her parents. > If it is a daughter then, birth, marriage details along with whom she > married of course, if this happens. > If the daughter does not marry then her death and that is it otherwise > one would get side tracked fairly quickly and you would no longer be > doing an ONS. > > Regards, > David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) > Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the > "Grimason" surname World Wide. > A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS): > 6138 formerly 2962 > The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some. > > On 23/04/2017 9:27 AM, David Skyrme wrote: >> I have been doing an ONS for several years now, and I'm still undecided >> on how much detail to record for spouses and family groups with >> different names. Most of my time is spent constructing trees from raw >> data by entering data into Family Historian. >> >> 1. For children, I generally do one generation, since the children's >> mother is a Skyrme. I create new records for them but I am ambivalent >> about how much detail I include beyond their birth dates. I enter all >> the facts I find for the mother (census details etc) until her death, >> but not for her husband if he outlives her. >> >> 2. For spouses, of either a male or female, I try to track them from >> birth. I create records for their parents, and try to find their birth >> and death dates. For siblings, however, I just tend to make a note in >> the family group record, e.g. listing those found in censuses alongside >> estimated birth year rather than add detail of their baptisms, >> occupations etc. >> >> So my approach is one generation up, one down, but with an inconsistent >> approach as to which records to create (vs. just a note) and what facts >> to include for the person whose birth name is not Skyrme. >> >> I'd be interested in how others restrict their scope. >> >> David J Skyrme >> >> Skyrme Family and One-Name Study website - www.skyrme.info >> Yardy Family and One-Name website - www.yardy.org.uk >> Guild of One-Name Studies Reg. No. 6232 >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Information and admin page: >> http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/

Hi David, With my ONS (One Name Study)what I do is record all the wife details from birth to death I exclude her parents. If it is a daughter then, birth, marriage details along with whom she married of course, if this happens. If the daughter does not marry then her death and that is it otherwise one would get side tracked fairly quickly and you would no longer be doing an ONS. Regards, David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the "Grimason" surname World Wide. A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS): 6138 formerly 2962 The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some. On 23/04/2017 9:27 AM, David Skyrme wrote: > I have been doing an ONS for several years now, and I'm still undecided > on how much detail to record for spouses and family groups with > different names. Most of my time is spent constructing trees from raw > data by entering data into Family Historian. > > 1. For children, I generally do one generation, since the children's > mother is a Skyrme. I create new records for them but I am ambivalent > about how much detail I include beyond their birth dates. I enter all > the facts I find for the mother (census details etc) until her death, > but not for her husband if he outlives her. > > 2. For spouses, of either a male or female, I try to track them from > birth. I create records for their parents, and try to find their birth > and death dates. For siblings, however, I just tend to make a note in > the family group record, e.g. listing those found in censuses alongside > estimated birth year rather than add detail of their baptisms, > occupations etc. > > So my approach is one generation up, one down, but with an inconsistent > approach as to which records to create (vs. just a note) and what facts > to include for the person whose birth name is not Skyrme. > > I'd be interested in how others restrict their scope. > > David J Skyrme > > Skyrme Family and One-Name Study website - www.skyrme.info > Yardy Family and One-Name website - www.yardy.org.uk > Guild of One-Name Studies Reg. No. 6232 > _____________________________________________ > > Information and admin page: > http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I guess mine process is very similar to other responses. However, I do very it a bit according to circumstances... Where Descendants of people in my ONS volunteer information, I add it to the Trees (with their permission) and credit them as the source. This gives a degree of 'buy-in' to my ONS from people who may not hold the name, but have a strong family link. Always bear in mind that things like Bibles and photos often disappear down the female line, and having those names in your Trees can act as bait <grin> My other exceptions are in small or sparse communities where: - Cousins intermarry, and - Siblings intermarry with the 'children' of a neighboring farm. Studying the wider family can often help untangle complicated relationships. Ken On 23 April 2017 at 02:58, Marie Byatt <morris12m@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > I pretty much stick to the one up and down on spouses or females that married out. But - make an exception when I find descendants of married daughters looping back to marry into the name again or I get a query that sends me their info proving they are the gg-grandchild of a Peplxx. Then I check out the trail and include it. > I do this because people find me by my website and if I include their connections they can use the website to show the relationship to the rest of their family. This has contributed a large number of pictures, letters and other things to my study that these folks have sent me. I think of it as following the genetic line as well as the Name. > > Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com > 'Peplers and Peplows' pepler.one-name.net > > > > > ________________________________ > > > >> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 4:27 PM > >> To: goons@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [G] Scope of an ONS - Spouses families > >> > >> I have been doing an ONS for several years now, and I'm still undecided > >> on how much detail to record for spouses and family groups with > >> different names. Most of my time is spent constructing trees from raw > >> data by entering data into Family Historian. > >> > >> 1. For children, I generally do one generation, since the children's > >> mother is a Skyrme. I create new records for them but I am ambivalent > >> about how much detail I include beyond their birth dates. I enter all > >> the facts I find for the mother (census details etc) until her death, > >> but not for her husband if he outlives her. > >> > >> 2. For spouses, of either a male or female, I try to track them from > >> birth. I create records for their parents, and try to find their birth > >> and death dates. For siblings, however, I just tend to make a note in > >> the family group record, e.g. listing those found in censuses alongside > >> estimated birth year rather than add detail of their baptisms, > >> occupations etc. > >> > >> So my approach is one generation up, one down, but with an inconsistent > >> approach as to which records to create (vs. just a note) and what facts > >> to include for the person whose birth name is not Skyrme. > >> > >> I'd be interested in how others restrict their scope. > >> > >> David J Skyrme > >> > >> Skyrme Family and One-Name Study website - www.skyrme.info > >> Yardy Family and One-Name website - www.yardy.org.uk > >> Guild of One-Name Studies Reg. No. 6232 > >> _____________________________________________ > >> > >> Information and admin page: > >> http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> _____________________________________________ > >> > >> Information and admin page: > >> http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > > > Information and admin page: > > http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ > > Information and admin page: > http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If anyone has queries about any military uniform I strongly recommend him or her to contact Bruce at www.uniformology.com. From an old photograph of my grandfather he has managed to identify the quite unusual uniform. He is also very knowledgeable about the history of regiments and, in fact, seems to be an all-round good egg.. K Still on a Wildgoose Chase! http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~willgooseweb/

A term used in South Africa is stam-vader, a rough translation would "father of the tribe" Allan Beeby GOONS 6519 (BEEBY) On 23 April 2017 at 02:46, Marie Byatt <morris12m@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Don't forget Founder as in Founding Fathers > > > Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A > Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' > http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and > Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com > 'Peplers and Peplows' pepler.one-name.net > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "laptop@strudwicke.com" <laptop@strudwicke.com> > To: goons@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:15 PM > Subject: Re: [G] Searching for a word (or phrase) > > > > Seems there is not a common term, but plenty of alternatives so far. A term > I use when dealing with written pedigrees is 'treetop'. > 'Progenitor', already mentioned, or perhaps 'primogenitor' would be my > pick > of the bunch. > cheers > Marcus Strudwicke > Mallala, Australia > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Information and admin page: > http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ > > Information and admin page: > http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Seems there is not a common term, but plenty of alternatives so far. A term I use when dealing with written pedigrees is 'treetop'. 'Progenitor', already mentioned, or perhaps 'primogenitor' would be my pick of the bunch. cheers Marcus Strudwicke Mallala, Australia

Hi Doug, You have had so far; Progenitor, Patriarch and Root. Add to that Seed or Source. Regards, David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the "Grimason" surname World Wide. A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS): 6138 formerly 2962 The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some. On 23/04/2017 2:39 AM, Doug Beezley wrote: > This is a very simple question for which the answer may provoke me to > slap my forehead and say "D'OH". > Is there a common term for the "earliest ancestor" in a given surname pedigree? > > I want the shorthand sort of like MRCA is used. Anyone? > > Doug Beezley > Cincinnati OH > _____________________________________________ > > Information and admin page: > http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I pretty much stick to the one up and down on spouses or females that married out. But - make an exception when I find descendants of married daughters looping back to marry into the name again or I get a query that sends me their info proving they are the gg-grandchild of a Peplxx. Then I check out the trail and include it. I do this because people find me by my website and if I include their connections they can use the website to show the relationship to the rest of their family. This has contributed a large number of pictures, letters and other things to my study that these folks have sent me. I think of it as following the genetic line as well as the Name. Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com 'Peplers and Peplows' pepler.one-name.net ________________________________ > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 4:27 PM > To: goons@rootsweb.com > Subject: [G] Scope of an ONS - Spouses families > > I have been doing an ONS for several years now, and I'm still undecided > on how much detail to record for spouses and family groups with > different names. Most of my time is spent constructing trees from raw > data by entering data into Family Historian. > > 1. For children, I generally do one generation, since the children's > mother is a Skyrme. I create new records for them but I am ambivalent > about how much detail I include beyond their birth dates. I enter all > the facts I find for the mother (census details etc) until her death, > but not for her husband if he outlives her. > > 2. For spouses, of either a male or female, I try to track them from > birth. I create records for their parents, and try to find their birth > and death dates. For siblings, however, I just tend to make a note in > the family group record, e.g. listing those found in censuses alongside > estimated birth year rather than add detail of their baptisms, > occupations etc. > > So my approach is one generation up, one down, but with an inconsistent > approach as to which records to create (vs. just a note) and what facts > to include for the person whose birth name is not Skyrme. > > I'd be interested in how others restrict their scope. > > David J Skyrme > > Skyrme Family and One-Name Study website - www.skyrme.info > Yardy Family and One-Name website - www.yardy.org.uk > Guild of One-Name Studies Reg. No. 6232 > _____________________________________________ > > Information and admin page: > http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ > > Information and admin page: > http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ Information and admin page: http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Whoops, sounds as though I research too much on some occasions. I go more on who my ONS person knew or had influence on their lives, so try to find parents-in-law and other in-law relations, their grandchildren if they were still alive when babies were born, married or died. Difficult to find anyone who was adopted out or the natural parents and siblings of someone adopted in but if I am given the information they get included. A couple of times I only discover an adoption has taken place because they are named as such in a Will or court case. I include people who have my ONS surnames as their first or other names. Sometimes the link is so far back the present day holders don't know how it originated. I spent some weeks researching a spouse's cousin who married into a very interesting family that I traced forward ten generations :>) From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori" <lj_walker@shaw.ca> To: <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [G] Scope of an ONS - Spouses families > Hi David, > > I do much the same as you. I note all children of a female married > Croasdale/dell and not much else. The spouses of all are a mixture, some I > have the parents and birth and death dates, others I do not. My intention > is to gather all of the relevant vital stats as much as I can. > > Of course, those with the surname are carried on through further > generations as that is the purpose. I sometimes include other marriages of > those who are widowed or divorced of a Croasdale just so I can keep track > of these in the records. > > Again, the main concern is the one-name study, but I generally have the > same information as you. One generation up and one down, as you put it. > > Lori Walker > GOONS 1190 > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Skyrme > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 4:27 PM > To: goons@rootsweb.com > Subject: [G] Scope of an ONS - Spouses families > > I have been doing an ONS for several years now, and I'm still undecided > on how much detail to record for spouses and family groups with > different names. Most of my time is spent constructing trees from raw > data by entering data into Family Historian. > > 1. For children, I generally do one generation, since the children's > mother is a Skyrme. I create new records for them but I am ambivalent > about how much detail I include beyond their birth dates. I enter all > the facts I find for the mother (census details etc) until her death, > but not for her husband if he outlives her. > > 2. For spouses, of either a male or female, I try to track them from > birth. I create records for their parents, and try to find their birth > and death dates. For siblings, however, I just tend to make a note in > the family group record, e.g. listing those found in censuses alongside > estimated birth year rather than add detail of their baptisms, > occupations etc. > > So my approach is one generation up, one down, but with an inconsistent > approach as to which records to create (vs. just a note) and what facts > to include for the person whose birth name is not Skyrme. > > I'd be interested in how others restrict their scope. > > David J Skyrme > > Skyrme Family and One-Name Study website - www.skyrme.info > Yardy Family and One-Name website - www.yardy.org.uk > Guild of One-Name Studies Reg. No. 6232 > _____________________________________________ > > Information and admin page: > http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ > > Information and admin page: > http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Don't forget Founder as in Founding Fathers Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com 'Peplers and Peplows' pepler.one-name.net ________________________________ From: "laptop@strudwicke.com" <laptop@strudwicke.com> To: goons@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [G] Searching for a word (or phrase) Seems there is not a common term, but plenty of alternatives so far. A term I use when dealing with written pedigrees is 'treetop'. 'Progenitor', already mentioned, or perhaps 'primogenitor' would be my pick of the bunch. cheers Marcus Strudwicke Mallala, Australia _____________________________________________ Information and admin page: http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been doing an ONS for several years now, and I'm still undecided on how much detail to record for spouses and family groups with different names. Most of my time is spent constructing trees from raw data by entering data into Family Historian. 1. For children, I generally do one generation, since the children's mother is a Skyrme. I create new records for them but I am ambivalent about how much detail I include beyond their birth dates. I enter all the facts I find for the mother (census details etc) until her death, but not for her husband if he outlives her. 2. For spouses, of either a male or female, I try to track them from birth. I create records for their parents, and try to find their birth and death dates. For siblings, however, I just tend to make a note in the family group record, e.g. listing those found in censuses alongside estimated birth year rather than add detail of their baptisms, occupations etc. So my approach is one generation up, one down, but with an inconsistent approach as to which records to create (vs. just a note) and what facts to include for the person whose birth name is not Skyrme. I'd be interested in how others restrict their scope. David J Skyrme Skyrme Family and One-Name Study website - www.skyrme.info Yardy Family and One-Name website - www.yardy.org.uk Guild of One-Name Studies Reg. No. 6232

Root? Brian Yare #5831 Yare -----Original Message----- From: GOONS [mailto:goons-bounces+brian=yare.org@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doug Beezley Sent: 22 April 2017 16:40 To: GOONS Forum <GOONS@rootsweb.com> Subject: [G] Searching for a word (or phrase) This is a very simple question for which the answer may provoke me to slap my forehead and say "D'OH". Is there a common term for the "earliest ancestor" in a given surname pedigree? I want the shorthand sort of like MRCA is used. Anyone? Doug Beezley Cincinnati OH

I work in the same fashion apparently. I carry everyone who carries my surname and their spouses, but I don’t carry non-spouses who don’t carry the surname (i.e., daughters-in-law of sons) and their progeny. I waffle a bit on adoption-ins or adopt-outs (i.e., where a person at one time or another carried my surname or was reported in some source as carrying the surname. And I attempt to provide ‘closure’ on all females with the surname - minimally, on a name change at marriage and ideally, through death. But I never carry parents of non-surname spouses … that trends to lead to everyone in the world. Everyone has their own techniques and protocols, but holding to this works well for me, Scott Shenton (GOONS 5292) Indialantic, Florida, USA Shenton one name study http://shenton.tribalpages.com > On Apr 22, 2017, at 7:16 PM, Lori <lj_walker@shaw.ca> wrote: > > Hi David, > > I do much the same as you. I note all children of a female married Croasdale/dell and not much else. The spouses of all are a mixture, some I have the parents and birth and death dates, others I do not. My intention is to gather all of the relevant vital stats as much as I can. > > Of course, those with the surname are carried on through further generations as that is the purpose. I sometimes include other marriages of those who are widowed or divorced of a Croasdale just so I can keep track of these in the records. > > Again, the main concern is the one-name study, but I generally have the same information as you. One generation up and one down, as you put it. > > Lori Walker > GOONS 1190 > > -----Original Message----- From: David Skyrme > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 4:27 PM > To: goons@rootsweb.com > Subject: [G] Scope of an ONS - Spouses families > > I have been doing an ONS for several years now, and I'm still undecided > on how much detail to record for spouses and family groups with > different names. Most of my time is spent constructing trees from raw > data by entering data into Family Historian. > > 1. For children, I generally do one generation, since the children's > mother is a Skyrme. I create new records for them but I am ambivalent > about how much detail I include beyond their birth dates. I enter all > the facts I find for the mother (census details etc) until her death, > but not for her husband if he outlives her. > > 2. For spouses, of either a male or female, I try to track them from > birth. I create records for their parents, and try to find their birth > and death dates. For siblings, however, I just tend to make a note in > the family group record, e.g. listing those found in censuses alongside > estimated birth year rather than add detail of their baptisms, > occupations etc. > > So my approach is one generation up, one down, but with an inconsistent > approach as to which records to create (vs. just a note) and what facts > to include for the person whose birth name is not Skyrme. > > I'd be interested in how others restrict their scope. > > David J Skyrme > > Skyrme Family and One-Name Study website - www.skyrme.info > Yardy Family and One-Name website - www.yardy.org.uk > Guild of One-Name Studies Reg. No. 6232 > _____________________________________________ > > Information and admin page: > http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ > > Information and admin page: > http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi David, I do much the same as you. I note all children of a female married Croasdale/dell and not much else. The spouses of all are a mixture, some I have the parents and birth and death dates, others I do not. My intention is to gather all of the relevant vital stats as much as I can. Of course, those with the surname are carried on through further generations as that is the purpose. I sometimes include other marriages of those who are widowed or divorced of a Croasdale just so I can keep track of these in the records. Again, the main concern is the one-name study, but I generally have the same information as you. One generation up and one down, as you put it. Lori Walker GOONS 1190 -----Original Message----- From: David Skyrme Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 4:27 PM To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] Scope of an ONS - Spouses families I have been doing an ONS for several years now, and I'm still undecided on how much detail to record for spouses and family groups with different names. Most of my time is spent constructing trees from raw data by entering data into Family Historian. 1. For children, I generally do one generation, since the children's mother is a Skyrme. I create new records for them but I am ambivalent about how much detail I include beyond their birth dates. I enter all the facts I find for the mother (census details etc) until her death, but not for her husband if he outlives her. 2. For spouses, of either a male or female, I try to track them from birth. I create records for their parents, and try to find their birth and death dates. For siblings, however, I just tend to make a note in the family group record, e.g. listing those found in censuses alongside estimated birth year rather than add detail of their baptisms, occupations etc. So my approach is one generation up, one down, but with an inconsistent approach as to which records to create (vs. just a note) and what facts to include for the person whose birth name is not Skyrme. I'd be interested in how others restrict their scope. David J Skyrme Skyrme Family and One-Name Study website - www.skyrme.info Yardy Family and One-Name website - www.yardy.org.uk Guild of One-Name Studies Reg. No. 6232 _____________________________________________ Information and admin page: http://one-name.org/guild-information-administration/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Progenitor? Geoff On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 at 08:41, Doug Beezley <dbeezley@gmail.com> wrote: > This is a very simple question for which the answer may provoke me to > slap my forehead and say "D'OH". > Is there a common term for the "earliest ancestor" in a given surname > pedigree? > > I want the shorthand sort of like MRCA is used. Anyone? > > Doug Beezley > Cincinnati, OH > -- Geoff Chew geoffchew1@gmail.com

Ahem... All, let's not forget Matriarch. Diane British Columbia, Canada Saggers One-Name Study: From: "Paul Howes" <purpleemperor3@gmail.com> To: "goons" <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 9:59:03 AM Subject: Re: [G] Searching for a word (or phrase) Patriarch? Paul