Andrew The Mexican records at FamilySearch could help a bit. The 1930 census has a 15 year old Victoria Brown living in the family or Frederick and Luz Brown at Pachuca de Soto, Hidalgo, Mexico. The family included an 8 year old Robert Brown. The 1989 death registration for 67 year old Robert Louis Brown Hardy gives his parents as Frederick Archibald Brown and Lucia Hardy. There may be some American records under the name Hardy that could help. The full record of Victoria's arrival in New York indicates that she was a housewife with an address in London who was in transit to Mexico, intending to join her father Arch. Brown. His address is given as Apartment H, San Angel, Mexico City. The record also indicates that she was born in Mexico City and had lived in Texas from 1930 to 1933. The border crossing record is very hard to read. New information that can be gleaned from it is that she was headed for San Antonio, Texas, where that she had lived between 1930 and 1933. The entry in the box on the card that asks for a destination and the name and complete address of a relative or friend that she was joining, consists of a short word is virtually indecipherable followed by the address of a hotel in San Antonio in parentheses. There is a 1930 Laredo border crossing card for Victoria L Brown (15) that gives her mother and father's names as Lucy Hardy Brown and Frederick A Brown. She was intending to visit someone named Hardy in San Antonio. Her birthplace is given as Coahuila, Mexico. She was one of four children accompanying her mother. Her mother's card indicates that she was visiting her father J. B. Hardy in San Antonio. She crossed again at Laredo in 1932, intending to visit her mother in San Antonio. Her father was her closest relative in Mexico. Her birthplace is given as Vera Cruz. John Carey (GOONS 6565) -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MILLARD A.R. via Sent: November-09-14 9:54 AM To: 'goons@rootsweb.com' Subject: [G] Mexican records? FMP's free weekend has thrown up a record for a Mrs Victoria Louise Bodimeade, age 30, sailing from Glasgow to New York in 1945 with the intention of residing permanently in Mexico. Although I can't see the full records on Ancestry.com there seem to be corresponding records of her arrival in New York in 1945 and of her crossing the border from Mexico into Laredo, Texas in 1948. Her maiden name was Brown and she had married David Bodimeade in 1938, but he remarried in 1946 so I presume there was a divorce. Any ideas where I look next to follow her? Best wishes Andrew -- Andrew Millard - A.R.Millard@durham.ac.uk Chair, Trustees of Genuki: www.genuki.org.uk Maintainer, Genuki Middx + London: www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/MDX/ + ../LND/ Academic Co-ordinator, Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Bodimeade one-name study: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/Bodimeade/ My genealogy: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/ _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just found his 1911 census entry which is a start John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History http://lawsfamilyregister.tribalpages.com http://lawsandlawes.blogspot.com

John Samuel DUNKERLEY of Manchester University, a proto-zoologist and an authority on Flagellates from the University of Glasgow, died 10 Feb 1931 at his home 108 Daisy-bank Road, Victoria Park, Manchester LAN he married my grandmother's sister Alice Maud Mary HARDING in Plymouth 1912. His death date I found within England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 but can't find a GRO record of his death, marriage and birth At Manchester University there exists a Dunkerley (Professor J.S.) Fellowship endowed in his memory John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History http://lawsfamilyregister.tribalpages.com http://lawsandlawes.blogspot.com

Congratulations to Kim Baldacchino and her team for an excellent seminar at Burgess Hill yesterday. The organisation was excellent, the venue was good and the speakers were thought provoking and interesting. The dinner the previous evening was nice and informal and an opportunity to make new acquaintances. It was well worth the trip from West Yorkshire. Thank you. Regards -- David Burgess

Thank you to everyone who responded to my query, on and off list. The conclusion I have come to is that the re-registration occurred following the parents' marriage, which is a common scenario. The fact that I have so far not found the marriage confused the issue, and may be due to other factors which I did not feel I could share on the list. June Willing On 8 Nov 2014, at 15:02, June Willing via wrote: > Hi All > > I have found a birth, surname Willing, mother "Smith", registered in > the 1990s in England & Wales, and re-registered about nine years > later. Any idea why this would have happened? > > I realise that re-registration is common if the parents marry after > the child's birth, but in this case I have found no marriage. > > Also, re-registration can occur in order to add the father to the > birth registration, but he must have been named on the birth > registration the first time. > > Any ideas? > > June Willing > Guild of One-Name Studies member no 2117 > Willing/Willings One-Name Study > http://one-name.org/name_profile/Willing/ > Willing/Willings DNA Project > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Willing/ > Dominicus One-Name Study > http://one-name.org/name_profile/dominicus-2/ > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Very much enjoyed the seminar today, and hope to attend the next. Well done to all involved! -- Maggie #6554 On 8 November 2014 20:33, Alan R Moorhouse via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I have just got home from today's seminar in Burgess Hill and am pleased to announce that bookings have already opened for our next Guild seminar on Saturday February 7th 2015 at the prestigious and internationally important Wellcome Collection building in London which will focus on Medical and Healthcare records. > > Dr Christopher Hilton, Senior Archivist, will open the seminar with "Sources for Family Historians in the Wellcome Library" and talks will follow on the Royal College of Nursing, asylums, Catholic medical care records and midwives. > > The Wellcome Library is on the south side of Euston Road, almost opposite Euston mainline station and just a few minutes walk from Euston Square (Circle, Metropolitan and Hammersmith+City lines) and Euston (Victoria and Northern Lines) underground stations. There is a link to a local map on the Guild website Event Calendar > http://one-name.org/events/?cid=all&month=2&yr=2015 > > You will find full details of the seminar on the Guild website where you can book on-line or download the booking form: > > http://one-name.org/seminar_2015feb_medhealth.html > > We look forward to seeing you there! > > Alan Moorhouse > [Seminar Bookings] > 8 Strachans Close, STROUD, Gloucestershire, GL5 3EB > seminar-booking@one-name.org > > [Thanks to Nigel Osborne, Anne Shankland and Peter Walker for your efforts in getting to a position to open booking today!] > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have just got home from today's seminar in Burgess Hill and am pleased to announce that bookings have already opened for our next Guild seminar on Saturday February 7th 2015 at the prestigious and internationally important Wellcome Collection building in London which will focus on Medical and Healthcare records. Dr Christopher Hilton, Senior Archivist, will open the seminar with "Sources for Family Historians in the Wellcome Library" and talks will follow on the Royal College of Nursing, asylums, Catholic medical care records and midwives. The Wellcome Library is on the south side of Euston Road, almost opposite Euston mainline station and just a few minutes walk from Euston Square (Circle, Metropolitan and Hammersmith+City lines) and Euston (Victoria and Northern Lines) underground stations. There is a link to a local map on the Guild website Event Calendar http://one-name.org/events/?cid=all&month=2&yr=2015 You will find full details of the seminar on the Guild website where you can book on-line or download the booking form: http://one-name.org/seminar_2015feb_medhealth.html We look forward to seeing you there! Alan Moorhouse [Seminar Bookings] 8 Strachans Close, STROUD, Gloucestershire, GL5 3EB seminar-booking@one-name.org [Thanks to Nigel Osborne, Anne Shankland and Peter Walker for your efforts in getting to a position to open booking today!]

Hi Andrew I had forgotten I could check whether there were two birth registrations. I have just done so, eventually (FMP seems a little slow, I wonder why). There is another registration under the mother's maiden name in 1997, but not on re-registration. So that would appear to suggest that the parents did marry, and that this was the reason for the re-registration. Finding the marriage is another problem, of course. Thanks for your help. June On 8 Nov 2014, at 17:43, MILLARD A.R. wrote: >> From: June Willing via >> Sent: 08 November 2014 15:03 >> >> I have found a birth, surname Willing, mother "Smith", registered in >> the 1990s in England & Wales, and re-registered about nine years >> later. Any idea why this would have happened? >> >> I realise that re-registration is common if the parents marry after >> the child's birth, but in this case I have found no marriage. >> >> Also, re-registration can occur in order to add the father to the >> birth registration, but he must have been named on the birth >> registration the first time. > > The birth index shows the mother's maiden name, which is not > necessarily her surname at the time of the birth. If the parents > subsequently marry the marriage index will show her name at the time > of marriage. The two are not necessarily the same. If the parents > were not married at the time of the birth there will likely be an > another entry with the same reference but indexed under the mother's > surname at the time. > > It is also quite possible that the re-registration was to correct an > error in the entry, such as the spelling of a parent's forename. > > > Best wishes > > Andrew > -- > Andrew Millard - A.R.Millard@durham.ac.uk > Chair, Trustees of Genuki: www.genuki.org.uk > Maintainer, Genuki Middx + London: www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/MDX/ > + ../LND/ > Academic Co-ordinator, Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org > Bodimeade one-name study: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/ > Bodimeade/ > My genealogy: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/ > > >

> From: June Willing via > Sent: 08 November 2014 15:03 > > I have found a birth, surname Willing, mother "Smith", registered in > the 1990s in England & Wales, and re-registered about nine years > later. Any idea why this would have happened? > > I realise that re-registration is common if the parents marry after > the child's birth, but in this case I have found no marriage. > > Also, re-registration can occur in order to add the father to the > birth registration, but he must have been named on the birth > registration the first time. The birth index shows the mother's maiden name, which is not necessarily her surname at the time of the birth. If the parents subsequently marry the marriage index will show her name at the time of marriage. The two are not necessarily the same. If the parents were not married at the time of the birth there will likely be an another entry with the same reference but indexed under the mother's surname at the time. It is also quite possible that the re-registration was to correct an error in the entry, such as the spelling of a parent's forename. Best wishes Andrew -- Andrew Millard - A.R.Millard@durham.ac.uk Chair, Trustees of Genuki: www.genuki.org.uk Maintainer, Genuki Middx + London: www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/MDX/ + ../LND/ Academic Co-ordinator, Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Bodimeade one-name study: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/Bodimeade/ My genealogy: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/

HI Corinne That had crossed my mind. Glad to hear you agree it's possible. Unfortunately this doesn't really help much. I have checked the overseas marriage index, but it's always possible they married abroad and did not bother to register it in the UK. June On 8 Nov 2014, at 17:11, Corinne Curtis wrote: > I would wonder if there is a marriage but it took place outside the > UK. There seems to be a growing trend to have weddings outside the UK > at more exotic locations. The only double birth registrations I have > had were, as you say, reregistration following parents marriage. > > Corinne Curtis #5579 > > On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:02 PM, June Willing via > <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> Hi All >> >> I have found a birth, surname Willing, mother "Smith", registered in >> the 1990s in England & Wales, and re-registered about nine years >> later. Any idea why this would have happened? >> >> I realise that re-registration is common if the parents marry after >> the child's birth, but in this case I have found no marriage. >> >> Also, re-registration can occur in order to add the father to the >> birth registration, but he must have been named on the birth >> registration the first time. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> June Willing >> Guild of One-Name Studies member no 2117 >> Willing/Willings One-Name Study >> http://one-name.org/name_profile/Willing/ >> Willing/Willings DNA Project >> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Willing/ >> Dominicus One-Name Study >> http://one-name.org/name_profile/dominicus-2/ >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message

I would wonder if there is a marriage but it took place outside the UK. There seems to be a growing trend to have weddings outside the UK at more exotic locations. The only double birth registrations I have had were, as you say, reregistration following parents marriage. Corinne Curtis #5579 On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:02 PM, June Willing via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi All > > I have found a birth, surname Willing, mother "Smith", registered in > the 1990s in England & Wales, and re-registered about nine years > later. Any idea why this would have happened? > > I realise that re-registration is common if the parents marry after > the child's birth, but in this case I have found no marriage. > > Also, re-registration can occur in order to add the father to the > birth registration, but he must have been named on the birth > registration the first time. > > Any ideas? > > June Willing > Guild of One-Name Studies member no 2117 > Willing/Willings One-Name Study > http://one-name.org/name_profile/Willing/ > Willing/Willings DNA Project > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Willing/ > Dominicus One-Name Study > http://one-name.org/name_profile/dominicus-2/ > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All I have found a birth, surname Willing, mother "Smith", registered in the 1990s in England & Wales, and re-registered about nine years later. Any idea why this would have happened? I realise that re-registration is common if the parents marry after the child's birth, but in this case I have found no marriage. Also, re-registration can occur in order to add the father to the birth registration, but he must have been named on the birth registration the first time. Any ideas? June Willing Guild of One-Name Studies member no 2117 Willing/Willings One-Name Study http://one-name.org/name_profile/Willing/ Willing/Willings DNA Project http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Willing/ Dominicus One-Name Study http://one-name.org/name_profile/dominicus-2/

Hi Listers, When I entered Pascall in the search of the Kings Bench & Fleet Prison Discharge Books and Prisoner Lists on Ancestry, I found a couple of references for John Pascall in 1809, but I can't make head or tail of them - can some kind soul have a look and explain things to me, or suggest where I might look next to find more information? Many thanks, Sue 6000 researching Pascall

Hello again Nigel I've managed now to access my profile, and started editing out the various unwanted symbols (squares etc.) - but do you mean that I have to do that all manually, piecemeal (in which case it'd be better to start from scratch ( I may have an old printout somewhere I could OCR scan into word, and then edit and then re-upload, a lenghty process) . Or do you mean that by clicking "update" this will happen automatically? I've tried clicking "Update" but no changes seem to be saved. Sorry to sound so obtuse - I know this all seems obvious to you, but it isn't to me! I have read your "Managing your one name study profile page" several times but can't quite grasp what you mean. Steve Tanner ----Original message---- >From : goons@rootsweb.com Date : 30/10/2014 - 19:14 (UTC) To : goons@rootsweb.com Subject : Re: [G] Misformatting of profiles in "improved" website Lee, not that is not the correct route. You are making your life far too  complicated. I did explain the process on all the major Guild information channels some  time ago including this one, but in the last couple of weeks there have been  further changes (not to profile pages), so here they are again in particular  reference to the problem with paragraphing. Go to the Guild web site. Login. Go to Members > My Details from the menu bar at the top of the page. Click on "Edit profile" DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING Click on "Update" (It's on the right side of the page). That's all. Regards Nigel Osborne - Guild webmaster _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Corrine - I had the very same thing happen to me today. I had found a family, was side-tracked down another road, but then couldn't find the original family. The way I resolved it was to use a very different query as I remembered that one of the children had a rare name. But it was very annoying. Chris -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Corinne Curtis via Sent: 06 November 2014 09:01 To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] searching ancestry - not finding previous results I'm driving myself bonkers at the moment searching ancestry to check records and references that I have already found previously, and not being able to find them now. I can't even find a death record I had yesterday. Is anyone else having this problem? In particular, is there any indication of what the problem is or how to get around it? (for reference, I'm mostly searching within the Canada collection right now). Corinne Curtis #5579 _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Everyone Latest news received via the Federation concerning problems at Parc Myrddin, Carmarthenshire Archives ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- At Carmarthenshire Archives we are very proud of our collections which have been developed since our record office was established in 1959.As part of a county wide review on building a better archive service we are focusing on a number of elements including the collections’ care and management and building suitability. Unfortunately we have identified active mould growth in our strong rooms that has affected some of the collections. This is largely due to the building deteriorating and the current environment housing these documents. As a result we have engaged specialist contractor, Harwell Document Restoration Services to remove the affected documents and carry out a thorough cleaning process. The documentation has to be transferred out of the county in order for this work to be done – see our terms of agreement. This work will be funded by Carmarthenshire Archive Service. As we are having to review the suitability of our premises at Parc Myrddin, we are transferring our family history enquiries to our libraries in Carmarthen and Llanelli. This will enable us to limit access to the site while works are being undertaken, and will make these records more accessible to the public with the benefit of extended opening hours. We would like to take this opportunity to reassure you there will be no loss of information and that the cleaned documentation will be available and accessed by the public once this process is complete. We continue to work closely with The National Archives and the Welsh Government through CyMAL to ensure long term preservation of the collection as well as delivering an improved service for our visitors. If you have any queries please contact Senior Cultural Services Manager, Jane Davies at janedavies@carmarthenshire.gov.uk or on 01554 742180. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have looked at the Carmarthenshire website and see that Parc Myrddin is already closed >From Peter Copsey Your Fed Rep

I definitely agree with Paul Howes "I'm thinking that having more cardinal points might well be helpful even for a county like Dorset where there are lots of indexed marriages online. Anyone care to comment on that? The point I'm driving toward is that even if sitting in Outer Mongolia, provided one has internet access any Guild member can contribute to the pool of knowledge." On the recommendation of Peter Copsey, I did an online marriage challenge using unindexed parish records that were found on familysearch (Tunstead), and it was a great experience and I had fairly good success, in some cases finding additional records beyond the time frame I had initially specified. Some time soon I will definitely do it again. As for outer mongolia - I don't live there, but I do live on the isle of Westray, Orkney- a tiny dot in the sea at the top of Scotland with 550 people living on the same bit of rock as me. Internet isn't wonderful, but we manage. Corinne Curtis #5579

Hello I am doing the second part of the Leighton Buzzard marriage challenge., I have had requests from 25 people totalling 74 entries (there were a couple of duplicates). Worryingly there are a number of names that I found in part 1 that have marriages in part 2 but haven't been requested. Do I presume that people have these marriages and don't need me to search for them? The names that appeared in part 1 that are also in part 2 but haven't been requested are: Blake (30); Bliss (8); Chandler (35); Chew (2); Fleming (2); Fowler (14); Goodson (3); Hazlewood (1); Hedges (20); Hopkins (23); Langley (3); Parrott (11); Prentice (4); Prouse (1); Purrett (1); Sear (12); Vicars/Viccars/Vickers (13); Whitbread (4) The numbers in brackets are the number of marriages (yes, I was bored on afternoon and did a search!) So, anyone who hasn't sent requests please do. Also if anyone has requests for part 1 that weren't requested first time round I will also look for them. I am still looking at how to see nonconformist marriages but keep hitting brick walls. Rose Norton Bierton 6008

Hello Following the Norwich marriage challenge thread and following on from part 1 of the MC I did earlier this year for the RD of Leighton Buzzard. With help from Brian Horridge (he did Bucks) I have worked out which page numbers belong to which parish from 1837-1911. Not sure what to do with it but if anyone has any queries please let me know. Rose Norton Bierton 6008

Paul Howes <paul@howesfamilies.com> said: > While I was messing around with FreeBMD data, the thought occurred to > me that things would have been a lot easier with more hard data > (forgetting the GMI!). After a little correspondence with Mary Rix, I > agreed to take on finding the Cardinal Points for a parish in Norwich > from 1837-1911. She has an easy template to use. Looks like it will > take about 8-10 hours to finish for a busy parish. Any other members > up for something similar? The template is available on the Guild web site, but is probably a little hard to find. It's just not practical to make everything prominent! See http://www.one-name.org/members/GMI/CardPointCollect.html It is probably best to check with Mary Rix first as she will be up-to-date on which Cardinal Points are already in the GMI, or will be soon. A new edition is being prepared now, with a lot of new CPs, so I am told. One of the things I can now check for in the GMI is that a sequence of CPs for a Registration District is complete and consistent. Mary Rix does a lot of work behind the scenes to make the GMI as accurate as possible. Peter Alefounder.