Marie, If you'd like an alphabetical list of Studies back in the public area of the website, why not ask for it on the Guild Suggestion Board? That's what it is there for! http://one-name.org/cgi-bin/members/suggestionboard.cgi Kind Regards, Ken On 22 November 2014 at 16:41, Marie Byatt via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Debbie - I'm a member and have the register however, I work with many non-members and they loved to click on a letter and look at the names to see if any were familiar. I can't begin to tell you how many times I have seen someone do this. And the number of times, after finding a familiar name they went on to contact the study. > However, they didn't think of the name until they saw it. It's the difference between multiple choice tests and fill in the blank. Maybe people are just more comfortable choosing from a list. I have a lot of Moselys in my data, but probably wouldn't come up with it as an idea to search on. > At this point in time - I don't think the public can do this anymore - I'm hoping it will reappear which is why I mention it. It was popular. > > Marie (GOONS 5318) > > > Bringing the world together one surname at a time. > 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com > 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com > Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ > 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com > > > ________________________________ > From: Debbie Kennett <debbiekennett@gmail.com> > To: 'Marie Byatt' <morris12m@sbcglobal.net>; goons@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 11:14 AM > Subject: RE: [G] Thank You & No More Excuses > > > I agree that the new profiles are a great improvement. What I particularly > like is the ability to add images. I've now added some distribution maps to > my profile using Steve Archer's Surname Atlas CD and they've come out really > well: > > http://one-name.org/name_profile/cruwys > > There is a wealth of knowledge and information on the old website, much of > which is hidden away in the Members' Room. I don't think we should > underestimate the enormity of the task of migrating all this content to the > new platform. Good progress has already been made and I'm sure we will see > many more improvements in the coming year. > > The URLs for members' websites where the member does not have a profile page > have not being displayed since June when the migration to the new platform > began. I believe the problem relates to the fact that there are different > versions of the register and I would guess the problem will only be resolved > when the members' version of the register is migrated to the new platform. > However, in the meantime this should be an excellent opportunity for those > members who have websites and/or DNA projects but don't yet have profiles to > get their new profile pages set up. The profile pages are very easy to work > with, and there are many advantages to having both a profile page and a > website. Writing the profile page in the standardised format is a good > discipline in its own right. Also, the profile page can help with search > engine optimisation. > > Marie, If you want an alphabeticised version of the register you can > download the PDF file of the 2014 Register from the Members' Room. It can be > found in the information section but here is the direct link: > > http://www.one-name.org/members/Register.pdf > > You can check for recent updates to the register here: > > http://www.one-name.org/cgi-bin/members/recent.cgi > > Best wishes > > Debbie Kennett > Member no. 4554 > Cruwys/Cruse/Cruwys one-name study > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

With the Mongey spelling the numbers jump to around 3000 ( mostly census results) but hitting the same early areas as Mongay Still looks like an early split off variation Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Marie Byatt via <goons@rootsweb.com> To: mingay <mingay@xtra.co.nz>; GOONS Forum <GOONS@rootsweb.com>; "goons@rootsweb.com" <goons@rootsweb.com> Cc: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [G] Puzzled? I would investigate Mongay - Family search only comes up with the exact spelling on less than 500 worldwide most afther the mid 1800s - ANcestry has just over 500 on exact spelling. Early records (1600s) are Germany/FRance/Spain and one family Mexico. Since you trace your Mingays back to Breton this could be a very early branch off and could also account for Ireland with the sea proximity. Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com ----- Original Message ----- From: mingay via <goons@rootsweb.com> To: GOONS Forum <GOONS@rootsweb.com> Cc: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 5:44 PM Subject: [G] Puzzled? Hi All, Having 'found' many MINGEY families in the USA Censuses who claim they orginated (c.1830/1840 ish) in Ireland where apparently some of the same people have had their name transcribed as MONGEY/MINGY. Note that 'they carry the spelling as MINGEY through to c 1940 in USA Obviously if MINGY/MINGEY that would 'fall' within my registered surname researches but what if it is actually MONGEY, do I 'follow' that path? Remembering there are very few images of original data so that I can not check the correctness of the transcription, also note this is the first time anything like MINGAY/MINGEY/MINGY has been asscociated with Ireland. I can see that DNA might help but that could a be BIG project for me. At the moment the whole research/follow up has been put on the 'back-burner' because of its 'puzzlement'. Any advice on the way forward would be grateful received. Regards Tony Anthony John MINGAY, now in NZ once of Kent & Suffolk, England but still researching Worldwide the surname MINGAY & its variants. http://www.mingayhistory.co.uk. _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree that the new profiles are a great improvement. What I particularly like is the ability to add images. I've now added some distribution maps to my profile using Steve Archer's Surname Atlas CD and they've come out really well: http://one-name.org/name_profile/cruwys There is a wealth of knowledge and information on the old website, much of which is hidden away in the Members' Room. I don't think we should underestimate the enormity of the task of migrating all this content to the new platform. Good progress has already been made and I'm sure we will see many more improvements in the coming year. The URLs for members' websites where the member does not have a profile page have not being displayed since June when the migration to the new platform began. I believe the problem relates to the fact that there are different versions of the register and I would guess the problem will only be resolved when the members' version of the register is migrated to the new platform. However, in the meantime this should be an excellent opportunity for those members who have websites and/or DNA projects but don't yet have profiles to get their new profile pages set up. The profile pages are very easy to work with, and there are many advantages to having both a profile page and a website. Writing the profile page in the standardised format is a good discipline in its own right. Also, the profile page can help with search engine optimisation. Marie, If you want an alphabeticised version of the register you can download the PDF file of the 2014 Register from the Members' Room. It can be found in the information section but here is the direct link: http://www.one-name.org/members/Register.pdf You can check for recent updates to the register here: http://www.one-name.org/cgi-bin/members/recent.cgi Best wishes Debbie Kennett Member no. 4554 Cruwys/Cruse/Cruwys one-name study

I would investigate Mongay - Family search only comes up with the exact spelling on less than 500 worldwide most afther the mid 1800s - ANcestry has just over 500 on exact spelling. Early records (1600s) are Germany/FRance/Spain and one family Mexico. Since you trace your Mingays back to Breton this could be a very early branch off and could also account for Ireland with the sea proximity. Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com ----- Original Message ----- From: mingay via <goons@rootsweb.com> To: GOONS Forum <GOONS@rootsweb.com> Cc: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 5:44 PM Subject: [G] Puzzled? Hi All, Having 'found' many MINGEY families in the USA Censuses who claim they orginated (c.1830/1840 ish) in Ireland where apparently some of the same people have had their name transcribed as MONGEY/MINGY. Note that 'they carry the spelling as MINGEY through to c 1940 in USA Obviously if MINGY/MINGEY that would 'fall' within my registered surname researches but what if it is actually MONGEY, do I 'follow' that path? Remembering there are very few images of original data so that I can not check the correctness of the transcription, also note this is the first time anything like MINGAY/MINGEY/MINGY has been asscociated with Ireland. I can see that DNA might help but that could a be BIG project for me. At the moment the whole research/follow up has been put on the 'back-burner' because of its 'puzzlement'. Any advice on the way forward would be grateful received. Regards Tony Anthony John MINGAY, now in NZ once of Kent & Suffolk, England but still researching Worldwide the surname MINGAY & its variants. http://www.mingayhistory.co.uk. _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That is nice Gerald and I like the use of your photo for the left hand top image - good idea. I clicked through to your website - nice home page. Now that the profile is so easy to work with - I need to get the additional sections added (frequency and distribution). It is always a treat to be able to work on my ONS and get ideas from all of my fellow GOONs on this forum about how to tweak things. Thanks. AND anything that helps our members work with their profiles is a great idea so thanks Brian for asking the question (and knowing where to put items and templates is always a help). Tessa Tessa Keough Guild of One-Name Studies, Member No. 5089 Keough (Keogh, Kough & Kehoe) Registered ONS On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Gerald A Cooke via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > You could add your name at the front of Name Profile. see title on my PIMBLE > profile which I have just trialled. > > Ignore the rest of the profile it is in dire need of update. > > Gerald > SNIP

Brian and All We can put anything we would like in any of these sections - I am guessing that we would like visitors to read through what we have included before they see a button to write us - if you are suggesting our name and perhaps the main and variants but not an email button then it could be good. I like the idea and wonder if we can do that now just by how we put our About together (a template might be nice). Don't want the email button at top because I wonder if they would read everything otherwise (I know, make it interesting!). I made mine more personal in two sections, but would be interested in hearing what others think as well. Tessa Tessa Keough Guild of One-Name Studies, Member No. 5089 Keough (Keogh, Kough & Kehoe) Registered ONS On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Brian Horridge via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Can I ask what others think before I make a "formal" suggestion about > the new website. > > Having just tweaked my own profile page, I notice that the name of the > person who has registered the surname only appears at the bottom by the > "send e-mail" button. > > I think it might be useful to have the name of the "owner" at the top > just underneath the "xx One Name Study" line (maybe a user-defined > option to show or hide it) > > Apologies if it is already an option but, if so, can someone tell me how > to show it. > > Brian > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Debbie - I'm a member and have the register however, I work with many non-members and they loved to click on a letter and look at the names to see if any were familiar. I can't begin to tell you how many times I have seen someone do this. And the number of times, after finding a familiar name they went on to contact the study. However, they didn't think of the name until they saw it. It's the difference between multiple choice tests and fill in the blank. Maybe people are just more comfortable choosing from a list. I have a lot of Moselys in my data, but probably wouldn't come up with it as an idea to search on. At this point in time - I don't think the public can do this anymore - I'm hoping it will reappear which is why I mention it. It was popular. Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com ________________________________ From: Debbie Kennett <debbiekennett@gmail.com> To: 'Marie Byatt' <morris12m@sbcglobal.net>; goons@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 11:14 AM Subject: RE: [G] Thank You & No More Excuses I agree that the new profiles are a great improvement. What I particularly like is the ability to add images. I've now added some distribution maps to my profile using Steve Archer's Surname Atlas CD and they've come out really well: http://one-name.org/name_profile/cruwys There is a wealth of knowledge and information on the old website, much of which is hidden away in the Members' Room. I don't think we should underestimate the enormity of the task of migrating all this content to the new platform. Good progress has already been made and I'm sure we will see many more improvements in the coming year. The URLs for members' websites where the member does not have a profile page have not being displayed since June when the migration to the new platform began. I believe the problem relates to the fact that there are different versions of the register and I would guess the problem will only be resolved when the members' version of the register is migrated to the new platform. However, in the meantime this should be an excellent opportunity for those members who have websites and/or DNA projects but don't yet have profiles to get their new profile pages set up. The profile pages are very easy to work with, and there are many advantages to having both a profile page and a website. Writing the profile page in the standardised format is a good discipline in its own right. Also, the profile page can help with search engine optimisation. Marie, If you want an alphabeticised version of the register you can download the PDF file of the 2014 Register from the Members' Room. It can be found in the information section but here is the direct link: http://www.one-name.org/members/Register.pdf You can check for recent updates to the register here: http://www.one-name.org/cgi-bin/members/recent.cgi Best wishes Debbie Kennett Member no. 4554 Cruwys/Cruse/Cruwys one-name study

These two challenges are now complete and the results have been despatched. If anyone was expecting to receive results  and has not heard from me, then please advise. For the statistically minded, in the North Aylesford challenge 174 of the 187 marriage requests were found and 73 of the 83 Strood marriage requests. Best regards Clive Clive Killick Hon. Sec. Killick Society Guild of One-Name Studies Member #2398 Rootsweb Killick_List administrator

A new Marriage Challenge, for the Berkshire district of Easthampstead. This covers the Parishes of Binfield, Bracknell, Cranbourne, Crowthorne, Easthampstead, Sandhurst, Warfield and Winkfield. Requests using the standard request template, which should be downloadable from the member's room. It is not at the moment, the link appears to 'have been lost'. No doubt Peter will fix it! Information required: Year Quarter (please use 1, 2, 3, 4 - this makes it sortable by date. Please do not add Q or use month names) Surname (please use UPPER CASE) First Names (please use Mixed Case) GRO Volume Number GRO Page Number Any additional information about any marriages requested will be helpful, including the source of the information. Cut off date will be 25 January 2015. Best regards Clive Clive Killick Hon. Sec. Killick Society Guild of One-Name Studies Member #2398 Rootsweb Killick_List administrator KS Ref: 140

These two challenges are now complete and the results have been despatched. If anyone was expecting to receive results and has not heard from me, then please advise. For the statistically minded, in the North Aylesford challenge 174 of the 187 marriage requests were found and 73 of the 83 Strood marriage requests. Best regards Clive Clive Killick Hon. Sec. Killick Society Guild of One-Name Studies Member #2398 Rootsweb Killick_List administrator

I'd like to echo Tessa's recommendation to start a Guild profile, but not from the perspective of a Guild member, but rather from what it looks like from someone looking at the Guild from outside. As a genealogist I have searched for a number of Guild surnames, and often found that they are being researched, but then when no more detailed information is given online - and in particular in a profile - about the scope of the study, or its status, I am often reluctant to make further enquiries. It's different when it's a surname very close to my family, but if it's something I've encountered more casually or laterally then the lack of a profile really does put me off contacting registered people. And I'm sure I'm not alone in this. And while some Guild members may not miss missing a few contacts here or there, I'm sure most of us are keen to hear from people interested in "our" names. I set up a Guild profile quite early on in the process, and have found it since to provide a really useful summary of the state of my research, so much so that I often refer people who email me direct to it to understand the scope and status of my study. In my profile I say briefly why I started tracing the name and its connection to my family tree, my views on variants, my take on the origin of the surname (different from the standard Scottish surname dictionary), and frequency and distribution of the name. One of the sections of my profile I think is most useful is the one that outlines where the particular strenghts in my data lie: in Scotland, England, and Ontario (Canada). Yes I am gathering information worldwide, but I have particularly good coverage of those places, and that helps to indicate to enquirers how likely I am at the moment to be able to help them with their queries. Also relevant to this is the bit early on in my profile page where I explain that if people! can trace back to an ancestor living before 1900 then I can probably fill out a lot of their family tree from that. And then my profile also has links to my DNA study, my Cavers ONS blog, the Facebook group, and my contact details. I don't think it need take very long to set up a profile, and formalising a description of your study can be good for your benefit, as well as for potential enquirers. So yes, as Tessa says, go ahead and do it :) And feel free to look at my Cavers one and those of other GOONS members to see how we've approached it. There's no one way of doing it, it can be a very personal thing, but I think it's well worth doing. And the sooner the better. Viv GOONS member 2847 (Cavers)

Thanks Tessa. Too add to that, here is a "Coming Soon to the Guild website " announcement. I am just finishing the last details of a facility that will allow members to create their profile pages with no need to contact the webmaster to set them up first. It will be a simple link on your "My Details" page of the new site, confirm you accept some simple policy rules, and your page will be ready for adding content to immediately. So hopefully "SUPER EASY" is about to get even easier!  Watch the web site and social media pages for the 'official' announcement in a few days. Regards Nigel Osborne - Guild web master

Hi Trevor Can you clarify "it doesn't function too well in an iPad environment" please. I'm hoping you are referring to the "old site" members room, as I am trying hard to make the new site as smartphone / tablet friendly as I can. But I'm always looking for feedback on improvements that are needed. Not much I can do about the 1980's style presentation of the old site though I'm afraid. But in due course it will all be migrated to the new platform. Regards Nigel Osborne - Guild web master On 22 Nov, 2014,at 06:22 AM, Trevor Penfold via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: Thank you, I am sorry I missed the original email. I have managed to log in, but it doesn't function too well in an iPad environment. I will try again with my laptop at some stage. Best regards Trevor Sent from Molto for iPad From: Debbie Kennett Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 16:13 pm To: Trevor Penfold, goons@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [G] Members Area Trevor The webmaster posted a message on the Forum back in October: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/goons/2014-10/1414126650 This page has the instructions that you should follow: http://one-name.org/latest-website-changes/ Debbie -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Trevor Penfold via Sent: 21 November 2014 15:55 To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] Members Area Has the password associated with the member area been changed?  I have just tried and was informed that the password I had been using was incorrect.  I attempted to ask for another one and got nowhere! Best regards Trevor _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Things change and we do need to keep up with those changes - in this case I think they are all for the good. I appreciate the effort to brand the Guild across all social media. I am thrilled that the website is going to be navigable for both short-term and long-term members as well as visitors to the site. If you have not been to the website in a while, it is time to take a look at the great improvements in phase 1. The layout is clean and clear, provides information that is useful (surname search, diary/calendar, recent news, and the ability for a member to be more proactive about updating their information. It is now up to us members to take advantage of those changes. Please do go on and update your Profile. If you need help, be sure to ask your regional representative. I am happy to help anyone in the USA West Region - just send me an email. We might each miss something that was previously available and is still on the old website, but I think we do need to realize that a great deal of thought has gone into the improvements and as this revamp continues we will be quite pleased. I am thrilled with the changes so far - the profile was so much easier to work on and I will continue to add sections and monitor my profile to update it. Please take advantage of one of the many benefits of your membership - spend some quality time with your profile. (It is quite easy to draft it in Word or another word processing program, perhaps run it through the Hemmingway app to check for readability, and then simply cut and paste). Tessa Tessa Keough Guild of One-Name Studies, Member No. 5089 Keough (Keogh, Kough & Kehoe) Registered ONS SNIP

I also miss (when not signed in - ie not a member) the ability to read the alphabetic lists of names. I actually used that a lot to see if someone was doing one of my 'family' names. Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Marie Byatt via <goons@rootsweb.com> To: Vivienne Dunstan <viv.dunstan@one-name.org>; "goons@rootsweb.com" <goons@rootsweb.com> Cc: Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [G] Thank You & No More Excuses Going along with your comment- I do find the information that one is directed to if there is no profile , very disheartening. Particulariy when the previous contact page gave a members website and DNA study even if they hadn't set up a profile. In effect - these members did have further information when their name was searched for and have now lost that. This is actually quite a large number of affected members - out of the first 420 member websites I checked - only just over half had a profile set up. Most probably do not realize that the Guild no longer provides the link to their website from the search as it did in the past. Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com ________________________________ From: Vivienne Dunstan via <goons@rootsweb.com> To: Tessa Keough <keough@one-name.org>; goons@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [G] Thank You & No More Excuses I'd like to echo Tessa's recommendation to start a Guild profile, but not from the perspective of a Guild member, but rather from what it looks like from someone looking at the Guild from outside. As a genealogist I have searched for a number of Guild surnames, and often found that they are being researched, but then when no more detailed information is given online - and in particular in a profile - about the scope of the study, or its status, I am often reluctant to make further enquiries. _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Going along with your comment- I do find the information that one is directed to if there is no profile , very disheartening. Particulariy when the previous contact page gave a members website and DNA study even if they hadn't set up a profile. In effect - these members did have further information when their name was searched for and have now lost that. This is actually quite a large number of affected members - out of the first 420 member websites I checked - only just over half had a profile set up. Most probably do not realize that the Guild no longer provides the link to their website from the search as it did in the past. Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com ________________________________ From: Vivienne Dunstan via <goons@rootsweb.com> To: Tessa Keough <keough@one-name.org>; goons@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [G] Thank You & No More Excuses I'd like to echo Tessa's recommendation to start a Guild profile, but not from the perspective of a Guild member, but rather from what it looks like from someone looking at the Guild from outside. As a genealogist I have searched for a number of Guild surnames, and often found that they are being researched, but then when no more detailed information is given online - and in particular in a profile - about the scope of the study, or its status, I am often reluctant to make further enquiries.

Thank you, I am sorry I missed the original email. I have managed to log in, but it doesn't function too well in an iPad environment. I will try again with my laptop at some stage. Best regards Trevor Sent from Molto for iPad From: Debbie Kennett Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 16:13 pm To: Trevor Penfold, goons@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [G] Members Area Trevor The webmaster posted a message on the Forum back in October: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/goons/2014-10/1414126650 This page has the instructions that you should follow: http://one-name.org/latest-website-changes/ Debbie -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Trevor Penfold via Sent: 21 November 2014 15:55 To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] Members Area Has the password associated with the member area been changed?  I have just tried and was informed that the password I had been using was incorrect.  I attempted to ask for another one and got nowhere! Best regards Trevor

But as I said earlier, the maps on AskaboutIreland are *later* than the valuation survey, and that’s the crunch, IMHO. Fiona On 21 Nov 2014, at 15:41, John Carey <johnca@quickclic.net> wrote: > There are other alternatives for this source. > > For some years now I have been searching Griffith's survey and viewing > corresponding survey pages and maps for free at the Ask About Ireland site > http://www.askaboutireland.ie/ > > It's nice to be able to locate actual farms, when you can believe the > notation on the maps. Unfortunately, the numbering for individual locations > on the maps does not always correspond to the numbering in the actual > survey. > > > John Carey (GOONS 6565) > > >

I know that the maps are quite difficult Polly (especially on a laptop), but they are the originals and map the holdings as they were when the survey was carried out. The maps on some other sites are later, and don’t necessarily show the holdings as they were originally. I think it’s important to see the originals so that you can actually see what was there. The first time I saw my g-g-grandfather’s holding plotted on the original map I realised that the “House” mentioned in the valuation is now (today) a byre, and that the “office” is gone. The maps on AskaboutIreland are much clearer - and do link from the surnames - but are quite a lot later. I think the big disappointment with the way FMP have gone about this is, as you say, that there’s no link between the surnames and the maps. Daft! Fiona On 21 Nov 2014, at 14:45, Polly Rubery via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Actually they are found by " > Griffith's Survey Maps & Plans, 1847-1864" and you have to search by place > name for the correct map. There is no link at all with the surnames. > > But this is hardly surprising as they are awful! I bought a copy (reduced > size) of the area where my great-grandfather came from and could hardly read > the plot numbers, so I was hoping for help with that. These are reduced far > more, so that it is a job to read the names of the places! > > What a disappointment! > Polly > ----- Original Message -----

Well argued Howard - I concur. Ken On 21 November 2014 15:55, HOWARD MATHIESON via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > The belief that it is possible to pinpoint the location where one's > ancestors first took their surnames approximately 1000 years ago is the > basis of case study reports produced and marketed by English, Scottish and > Irish Origenes. This review will examine the claim with particular > reference to the application of the methodology to English case studies and > the use of farmers as a reliable locator for a testee's genetic homeland. > It will not directly address the question of Scottish or Irish case > studies, although many of the same points could be equally applied in the > context of these reports. > > http://geogenealogy.ca/farmer.htm > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >