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Marion Thanks for the correction. I must admit that having done all my census material on FMP before they changed site and only had to look at 1911 addresses recently I missed it. Why does the 1911 have to be different! I thought that the whole idea of the change was to make the searches all the same!! Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: Marion Woolgar [mailto:woolgar@one-name.org] Sent: 30 November 2014 08:22 To: 'John Hanson'; goons@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [G] Finding a particular street in Census Excuse me contradicting you, but there is an address search facility on the 1841 to 1911 census returns on FMP. Home Page Click Search Records tab Census Land & Surveys Scroll down and enter house number and street Browse Record Collection and check Census box and Apply Filters Browse Record Set Scroll down the list that appears and click on More Check census year desired and Apply Filters Finally, click Search Census Land and Surveys I don't know why they have to make it so difficult, but it is there. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex Guild ONS No: 1739

Excuse me contradicting you, but there is an address search facility on the 1841 to 1911 census returns on FMP. Home Page Click Search Records tab Census Land & Surveys Scroll down and enter house number and street Browse Record Collection and check Census box and Apply Filters Browse Record Set Scroll down the list that appears and click on More Check census year desired and Apply Filters Finally, click Search Census Land and Surveys I don't know why they have to make it so difficult, but it is there. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex Guild ONS No: 1739

Ancestry doesn't have a searchable Street Index but you can navigate to the County, Parish and Enumeration District to find the Enumerators description of his route and then scan the relevant pages. FMP has a searchable Street Index and TheGenealogist may have one too. However, you will find the people that you are looking for on Ancestry, but they have been mistranscribed as TETTERTON at ref: HO107/1575 folio 188 and they are living at 3 Effra Road. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex Guild ONS No: 1739

John - try HO107/1575 folio 188 page 33. Both John and daughter. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Gray [mailto:Christopher.Gray@gray-ons.org] Sent: 30 November 2014 07:31 To: 'john titterton'; 'goons@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [G] Finding a particular street in Census John, In Ancestry - I selected "Search in Census & Electoral Rolls" then, on the right-and side of the screen - "Narrow by Category" - chose "1851 U.K. Census Collection". Then - at the bottom of the search panel - "Included Data Collections" chose "1851 England census". This allows me to select such as Registration District (RD), sub-RD, Page number, folio, etc. A quick look on the internet showed that Brixton is a sub-district of the Lambeth RD. I then looked for the 1851 street index on-line and found a webarchive.nationalarchives.co.uk. This showed me that Effra Road has two parts - East is HO107/1575 folios 172,186-191, while the West Side is in folios 268-270. Back to Ancestry to feed all that in and ... I'll leave that up to you <grin>. Chris -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of john titterton via Sent: 30 November 2014 04:46 To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] Finding a particular street in Census Hi Can anyone tell me how to find a particular street in the 1851 Census using Ancestry. John Titterton and his daughter Mary Ann should be living in Effra Road Brixton. But they do not appear. (Mary is still there at No 3 many years later.) I expect the surname has been mistranscribed but cannot find them using the common errors. If I could find the street then I might succeed. Any suggestions? John John E Titterton (1615) Ashbourne, UK www.titterton.org.uk _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, In Ancestry - I selected "Search in Census & Electoral Rolls" then, on the right-and side of the screen - "Narrow by Category" - chose "1851 U.K. Census Collection". Then - at the bottom of the search panel - "Included Data Collections" chose "1851 England census". This allows me to select such as Registration District (RD), sub-RD, Page number, folio, etc. A quick look on the internet showed that Brixton is a sub-district of the Lambeth RD. I then looked for the 1851 street index on-line and found a webarchive.nationalarchives.co.uk. This showed me that Effra Road has two parts - East is HO107/1575 folios 172,186-191, while the West Side is in folios 268-270. Back to Ancestry to feed all that in and ... I'll leave that up to you <grin>. Chris -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of john titterton via Sent: 30 November 2014 04:46 To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] Finding a particular street in Census Hi Can anyone tell me how to find a particular street in the 1851 Census using Ancestry. John Titterton and his daughter Mary Ann should be living in Effra Road Brixton. But they do not appear. (Mary is still there at No 3 many years later.) I expect the surname has been mistranscribed but cannot find them using the common errors. If I could find the street then I might succeed. Any suggestions? John John E Titterton (1615) Ashbourne, UK www.titterton.org.uk _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John The simple answer is that you cannot as they haven't indexed the street names. FMP haven't added the street index search again yet for years other than the 1911. So it appears that all was lost then I remembered reading about it earlier this year. As I have all of the guild emails for the past 15 years (I know that they are online in rootsweb but it is so useful in outlook) but wasn't there but I did find this one on the SoG mailing list. " There are census street indexes on the National Archives' old 'Your Archives' site, however, not every registration district is covered and there are no indexes for 1901 and 1911. Also, the search facility no longer works so you will need to know the registration district that your street is in to browse the index. The web address is http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120608115718/http://yourarchives .nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Your_Archives:Historical_Streets_Pr oject#Using_the_street_indexes" No entry for Brixton in 1851 so it was obviously a sub-district. Searching the census for the surname Smith in Brixton reveals that the registration district is Lambeth. Hope that helps Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of john titterton via Sent: 30 November 2014 04:46 To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] Finding a particular street in Census Hi Can anyone tell me how to find a particular street in the 1851 Census using Ancestry. John Titterton and his daughter Mary Ann should be living in Effra Road Brixton. But they do not appear. (Mary is still there at No 3 many years later.) I expect the surname has been mistranscribed but cannot find them using the common errors. If I could find the street then I might succeed. Any suggestions? John John E Titterton (1615) Ashbourne, UK www.titterton.org.uk _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi John, They are there in 1851, at Archive reference HO107 Piece number 1575 Folio 188 Page 33. Ancestry has them transcribed as Tetterton. Dai Bevan Gilbourne ONS On 30/11/2014 04:46, john titterton via wrote: > Hi > > > > Can anyone tell me how to find a particular street in the 1851 Census using > Ancestry. John Titterton and his daughter Mary Ann should be living in > Effra Road Brixton. But they do not appear. (Mary is still there at No 3 > many years later.) I expect the surname has been mistranscribed but cannot > find them using the common errors. If I could find the street then I might > succeed. > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > John > >

Hi Can anyone tell me how to find a particular street in the 1851 Census using Ancestry. John Titterton and his daughter Mary Ann should be living in Effra Road Brixton. But they do not appear. (Mary is still there at No 3 many years later.) I expect the surname has been mistranscribed but cannot find them using the common errors. If I could find the street then I might succeed. Any suggestions? John John E Titterton (1615) Ashbourne, UK www.titterton.org.uk

Hi Have you any reason to think the adoption was within the family. If so you have a good idea of the possible surnames on the original birth certificate. The child probably kept the same birthday so you could try looking for the original birth certificate. I grew up with a cousin who it was openly acknowledged as having been adopted. Then in my wife's family there was an adoption by one relative of a child of another family member. This prompted me to check out my 'cousin'. In the St Catherine's index I found the entry for what I felt was mostly likely his birth certificate. I found out that he was my half-brother! These are births around 1945 -1950. John John E Titterton MA, FSA Chairman Ashbourne Heritage Society Ashbourne, UK www.ashbourneheritagesociety.org.uk www.ashbourneheritagecentre.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of SHIRLEY POWER via Sent: 29 November 2014 09:49 To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] Help please The new rules came into force re Adoption but am still confused. Does anyone know how to find out details other than from a liason officer. The person adopted is dead as is their parents who adopted her and the person who wishes to find out is a child of these parents and therefore a sibling (by adoption) of the adopted child. Any pointers would be appreciated Shirley GRIMMETT6171 _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For those not following the Guild on Google+, you may have missed this interesting posting on relating surnames to social standing over the centuries. The intro says: "If your surname reveals that you descended from the 'in' crowd in the England of 1066-the Norman Conquerors-then even now you are more likely than the average Brit to be upper class." The article is titled, "How England's 1% remained the same since 1066 " and can be found at: http://www.medievalists.net/2014/11/26/englands-1-remained-since-1066/ My interest is the many ways to look at surname studies. There are members within the Guild who are skilled at analysing a one-name as a study, and this article illustrates one more surprising revelation. Jim Benedict Guild Representative for Western Canada Guild of One-Name Studies: Guild member #4794 Calgary, Alberta www.BenedictGenerations.com ========================================================

Can I ask if there are any of my Digby's in the Spalding Marriage Challenge Anne other Anne -----Original Message----- From: Anne Cole via Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 2:10 PM To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] Spalding Marriage Challenge complete (almost) Everyone who sent me requests for this marriage challenge should have their results (I sent out the final ones this morning). I did mention a few weeks ago that I discovered an untranscribed parish, Moulton Chapel, the registers for which begin in 1890. These have now been transcribed and an updated Spalding spreadsheet has been sent to the chap who takes care of the website but they have not yet been uploaded, a little frustrating but there is nothing I can do about it. I did see 1 MACKMAN, 1 PEAKE and 2 JUBB marriages which I've made a note of so no need to ask for those. When the spreadsheet is uploaded I will let you know and take requests for that parish only. Please do a name search in case there are any fathers of widows or second forenames that interest you. I may do another challenge next spring, Gainsborough and Spilsby Registration Districts are as complete as we can get them at the moment. Anne Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Peter, If memory serves me correctly Brothers Keeper ought to be able to export the file/s as GEDComs. I used this program quite a number of years ago, think I may have had version 5 which ran on Windows 3.1 if I remember correctly I do know that the version I had was able to export it's files as a Gedcom so I suspect any version after that still had that capability. This was between about 1990 and 1997. Hope that this is of some guidance. Regards, David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the "Grimason" surname a One Name study. GOONS: 6138 formally 2962 The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some. On 29/11/2014 8:37 a.m., Peter Copsey via wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I am looking for someone familiar with Brother’s Keeper to help me with an > archiving task. > > I have a member who is resigning the Guild and calling a end to her one-name > study. I am talking to her about archiving. > > She has lots of paper but she also has material on Brother’s Keeper. > > The material could be helpful to other Guild members (there should be many > common names) and I would like to place what I can in the Guild's OnLine > Library. > > Is there someone who could volunteer to convert Brothers Keeper to GEDCOMs > and/or to Excel datafiles so that the information can be read and made > available to search? I have yet to find out the edition of Brother’s Keeper > that is used, but I suspect it is quite old. > > Peter Copsey > Guild Librarian & Archivist. >

Everyone who sent me requests for this marriage challenge should have their results (I sent out the final ones this morning). I did mention a few weeks ago that I discovered an untranscribed parish, Moulton Chapel, the registers for which begin in 1890. These have now been transcribed and an updated Spalding spreadsheet has been sent to the chap who takes care of the website but they have not yet been uploaded, a little frustrating but there is nothing I can do about it. I did see 1 MACKMAN, 1 PEAKE and 2 JUBB marriages which I've made a note of so no need to ask for those. When the spreadsheet is uploaded I will let you know and take requests for that parish only. Please do a name search in case there are any fathers of widows or second forenames that interest you. I may do another challenge next spring, Gainsborough and Spilsby Registration Districts are as complete as we can get them at the moment. Anne Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html http://duncalfonenamestudy.tribalpages.com/ Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/

June, Debbie, et al You seem to be testing Google searches with an expectation some level of consistency perhaps subject to just one or two factors applies. It might happen, but 'might' is a very flexible word. Trouble is that a) the algorithms Google uses include hundred of different factors, all with separate weightings applied and all affected by the actions of billions of web users. b) the algorithms are constantly reviewed and sometimes changed in significant ways. This, for example, is why "meta tags" are no longer 'in vogue'. c) the entire process is completely dynamic, and repeated every few milliseconds. So a ranking of 3 now could potentially be 4, 5 or even a whole page lower ten minutes later. That's not a common outcome, but it can happen. Nigel Osborne - Guild web master

The new rules came into force re Adoption but am still confused. Does anyone know how to find out details other than from a liason officer. The person adopted is dead as is their parents who adopted her and the person who wishes to find out is a child of these parents and therefore a sibling (by adoption) of the adopted child. Any pointers would be appreciated Shirley GRIMMETT6171

Hi Nigel Thanks for your comments. I can't speak for Debbie, but my original point was that Google results do vary. Having investigated further, I was pleasantly surprised to find that anyone searching for Willing family history is likely to find my profile page and my DNA project website quite easily. This was not the case a few years ago. (I have to hope that they realise that just looking for Willing is hopeless.) I do a Google search regularly to see if I appear in the results. One thing I like to do is make sure that my profile is kept up to date and to tweak it from time to time if I had nothing particular to add. I think it's time I did that again. The old profile page used to have a date when it was last edited, if I remember correctly, though the new one does not. I do agree with Debbie's remarks about putting lots of content on your profile page, especially names. Researchers seem to look for particular people quite a lot, for example a search for "Richard Willing" Loddiswell, will find my profile page. The fact that they might actually be searching for a different individual to the one mentioned on my profile page is a happy accident. June Willing Guild of One-Name Studies member no 2117 Willing/Willings One-Name Study http://one-name.org/name_profile/Willing/ Willing/Willings DNA Project http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Willing/ Dominicus One-Name Study http://one-name.org/name_profile/dominicus-2/ On 28 Nov 2014, at 21:02, Nigel Osborne via wrote: > June, Debbie, et al > > You seem to be testing Google searches with an expectation some > level of consistency perhaps subject to just one or two factors > applies. It might happen, but 'might' is a very flexible word. > > Trouble is that > a) the algorithms Google uses include hundred of different factors, > all with separate weightings applied and all affected by the actions > of billions of web users. > b) the algorithms are constantly reviewed and sometimes changed in > significant ways. This, for example, is why "meta tags" are no > longer 'in vogue'. > c) the entire process is completely dynamic, and repeated every few > milliseconds. So a ranking of 3 now could potentially be 4, 5 or > even a whole page lower ten minutes later. That's not a common > outcome, but it can happen. > > Nigel Osborne - Guild web master > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi, I just typed in to my browsers search bar "Amazon", selected Amazon.com from the Google results then put in Thomas MacEntee in to the Amazon.com search bar and got the E Book Free. Regards, David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the "Grimason" surname a One Name study. GOONS: 6138 formally 2962 The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some.

Denise Thought I'd let you know about something I found connected to the discharge column "Reld". I have a Pullum discharged with this column crossed and this discharge date is the same as the admission date for another asylum (where he later died) therefore it seems to relate to some sort of transfer. Nikki #6552 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise Light via" <goons@rootsweb.com> To: goons@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 28 November, 2014 12:06:15 PM Subject: Re: [G] Lunatic Asylum (admission) records now on Ancestry Can't believe how many I've found! But what I want to know is what the headings in the Discharge column mean Recovered is obvious Is Reld relieved. What does it mean? And Impd. Is this improved so that they are well enough to be discharged? Out of 17 names, 7 of them died in the asylum. In most cases I didn't have an exact date of death so this has been useful. The difficulty is identifying the women who recovered! Regards Denise _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Not having attempted to do a Profile yet I didn't expect my ONSs to feature very highly by doing a Google search on just the surnames registered. When I eventually got to about the 15th page there was a Guild List which included them but someone finding that couldn't then go to my profile pages to view the surname of interest and the variants included or get to my email address, etc. to contact me. Perhaps this is due to the Guild's website being re-organized - I've not had any enquiries from any source this year. There were a few instances of my activity on various Lists where I had asked a question or replied to an enquiry on one of my ONS surnames which included my email address so they could possibly contact me that way, provided they didn't have to join a 'list' first? Still, it was not a complete waste of time checking on Google as I did discover a couple of new pieces of information, one being a Wikipedia entry and another on the first known Bawtree which stated that his father went by the surname of Bawdry and almost proves that he was the link of my two main branches mid-1500's. From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fíona Tipple via" <goons@rootsweb.com> To: "Corinne Curtis" <corinneinorkney@gmail.com>; <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [G] Finding your study on google search I have found that if I search for Duignan, plain and unadorned, my Guild profile, my Y-DNA project and my TribalPages site are lost in the mist, but if I search for Duignan + surname all turn up on the first result page (admittedly with all the coats-of-arms and family crest [sic!] bucket shops) but I’m not complaining! Fiona — 5538 - Duignan etc. On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:18, Corinne Curtis via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I think its quite a good idea to try searching for your own study > every now and then using google. I must admit I didn't have a lot of > luck just putting in either of the names Sennett or Sinnott on their > own: > > For "Sennett" - a surname database site turns up on page 8, Sennett > ONS doesn't appear until page 10. First search pages dominated by > Richard Sennett (sociologist), and Mack Sennett (silent movie fame). > "Sinnott" - surname database site on page 4 - no other specific > genealogy site refs in 10 pages of search results. > > Searching "Sennett genealogy" gives better results:on the first page, > my DNA project is 3rd, and my wordpress blog is the 4th entry, with a > rootschat post from me at 5th (that mentions the ONS). My one name > study appears on page 4. > > I guess that confirmed my feeling that the wordpress blog was an > easier contact point for people right now. I wonder how much that > has to do with the ability to tag and add categories to each post? > Gives me more incentive to keep on posting to the blog. > > Corinne Curtis #5579