> From: Gordon Adshead <gordon@adshead.com> > Following a pointer from Eastman I looked again at the US Access to Archival Databases site (AAD) http://www.archives.gov/aad>http://www.archives.gov/aad Thanks for that Gordon. Interestingly I found some Bowes in the 19th c German immigration records. For the life of me, after reading the instructions, I cannot figure out how to obtain the date and port of arrival. Does anyone have that figured out? Martha Bowes Guild No. 5048

Chris, You may not be aware that Legacy is an SQL DB with an Access based front end. Ron Ferguson Sent from my Xperia™ smartphone Christopher Gray via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >Good morning Norman - your stated reason for joining the Guild is not >uncommon - I too joined because I had so much data unrelated to my line of >research. > >Spreadsheets are widely used for gathering data together in a way that can >be readily indexed or cross-referenced - and Excel is a commonly used tool. >There are many, many members who are experienced in using this approach. > >Some use the Custodian tool. This was developed by members of the Guild >specifically for One-Name Studies and is geared towards enabling easy >recording and assimilating seemingly unrelated data from a wide range of >sources. > >Many people use hand-written records and some keep their data in a >word-processor (e.g. Word). Others record it directly onto a web-site (e.g. >a "blog"). > >Lots of different approaches - the problem many have is finding one that >suits their way of working. Then one needs to recognise that, as one gains >more experience of what it is that one is aiming to do and how one prefers >to do it, then the original choice of tool can be outgrown. I frequently >find that trying to guess what type of tool I may need in the future is >wasting my time and I need to plump for a widely used one I feel comfortable >with. In my case it was the spreadsheet in Works. I'm now starting to >investigate the use SQLserver with an MSaccess front-end - but Excel is >still my main data holder. > >So - choose what you are comfortable with. > >Chris > >-----Original Message----- >From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >Behalf Of Norman Thornton via >Sent: 06 December 2014 15:18 >To: Paul Howes; goons@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [G] Guild Marriage Index > >Hi, I am a new member and was greatly encouraged by Mr Howes' thoughts. The >reason I joined the guild was because of the wealth of extraneous Thornton >data I was collecting as I singlemindly plodded on with my own line of >research. To me it seemed sad there was no way of storing all this valuable >data that had no direct bearing on my research, this seems to mirror some of >his thoughts. >I am interested in databases and what form they take. > Having hit a brick wall, I decided to continue my own researcher by >indexing all the Thorntons or related name variants in the Old Parish >Records in Scotland. I did it by eye onto a word page and I doubt it could >be readily copied. similarly the related research on all the Thorntons in >the 1851 Census in West Lothian is probably not in an acceptable form for >copying. > I have found some new variants of my name And am contemplating updating >first exercise using Excel to sort the whole data base. I would have thought >this would be one suitable storage vase, as it is commonly available, and >therefore when superceded [as is the fate of all things it seems], the IT >community will produce a programme to transcribe it into the latest format. > As I am new to the Guild I would be interested in feedback. Norman >Thornton > > > > > _____________________________________________ > >RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Really enjoyed this. Thank You On 07/12/2014 06:03, SBS Engineers Research via wrote: > Afternoon/Morning all > > RE: encouraging children to take an interest in their ancestry. This came via a member of our WAGS. A nice little YouTube video with a message to start the day. > FamilySearch ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reZ5nNhztYI > > Regards > > Ann Spiro > Guild ONS Representative for WA & NT. rep-australia-north-west@one-name.org > Guild registered surnames: BASKETT; BRIGGS http://www.one-name.org/ > Baskett DNA Project: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Baskett > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, I wasn't sure - Roots Magic has done a similar thing as well Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Fíona Tipple <fiona.tipple@ucd.ie> To: Marie Byatt <morris12m@sbcglobal.net>; goons@rootsweb.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [G] Guild Marriage Index Marie, Legacy is a Windows system. To use it with the Mac OS you have to run it using a Windows emulator. Fiona — 5538 - Duignan & variants

Good morning Norman - your stated reason for joining the Guild is not uncommon - I too joined because I had so much data unrelated to my line of research. Spreadsheets are widely used for gathering data together in a way that can be readily indexed or cross-referenced - and Excel is a commonly used tool. There are many, many members who are experienced in using this approach. Some use the Custodian tool. This was developed by members of the Guild specifically for One-Name Studies and is geared towards enabling easy recording and assimilating seemingly unrelated data from a wide range of sources. Many people use hand-written records and some keep their data in a word-processor (e.g. Word). Others record it directly onto a web-site (e.g. a "blog"). Lots of different approaches - the problem many have is finding one that suits their way of working. Then one needs to recognise that, as one gains more experience of what it is that one is aiming to do and how one prefers to do it, then the original choice of tool can be outgrown. I frequently find that trying to guess what type of tool I may need in the future is wasting my time and I need to plump for a widely used one I feel comfortable with. In my case it was the spreadsheet in Works. I'm now starting to investigate the use SQLserver with an MSaccess front-end - but Excel is still my main data holder. So - choose what you are comfortable with. Chris -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Norman Thornton via Sent: 06 December 2014 15:18 To: Paul Howes; goons@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G] Guild Marriage Index Hi, I am a new member and was greatly encouraged by Mr Howes' thoughts. The reason I joined the guild was because of the wealth of extraneous Thornton data I was collecting as I singlemindly plodded on with my own line of research. To me it seemed sad there was no way of storing all this valuable data that had no direct bearing on my research, this seems to mirror some of his thoughts. I am interested in databases and what form they take. Having hit a brick wall, I decided to continue my own researcher by indexing all the Thorntons or related name variants in the Old Parish Records in Scotland. I did it by eye onto a word page and I doubt it could be readily copied. similarly the related research on all the Thorntons in the 1851 Census in West Lothian is probably not in an acceptable form for copying. I have found some new variants of my name And am contemplating updating first exercise using Excel to sort the whole data base. I would have thought this would be one suitable storage vase, as it is commonly available, and therefore when superceded [as is the fate of all things it seems], the IT community will produce a programme to transcribe it into the latest format. As I am new to the Guild I would be interested in feedback. Norman Thornton

Afternoon/Morning all RE: encouraging children to take an interest in their ancestry. This came via a member of our WAGS. A nice little YouTube video with a message to start the day. FamilySearch ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reZ5nNhztYI Regards Ann Spiro Guild ONS Representative for WA & NT. rep-australia-north-west@one-name.org Guild registered surnames: BASKETT; BRIGGS  http://www.one-name.org/ Baskett DNA Project: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Baskett

Sounds like you are off to a good start - spreadsheets are great for gathering data and sorting it. Its especially nice now that Family Search actually provides a button that allows one to do this and their spreadsheet includes the transcribing batch number. I urge you not to overlook the benefits of Family connecting at the same time. I think you need to incorporate both types of data storage. The Family context acts as a checker for the spreadsheets. Too many times for my happiness, I have discovered that what looked to be a new group of Peplers for me has actually been individuals listed under a completely wrong name in one census or other type data base. Having the family connection has enabled me to verify this - where the single name of John or Mary or William wouldn't. There are many packages out there, I use Roots Magic, but many members also use Legacy ( which I believe has both MAC and windows version), Family Historian and several others. All have different strengths. My normal practice When I get new data (say the 1870 census for the US) - I make my spreadsheet, sort for location and them go and add it as a new fact for each of the individuals on the list. If I can't find the person , I mark the entry and go on to the next. At the end, I come back to the marked people and decide if they are Peplers or not and do I have them already under a different name. I use the family structure ( spouse, parents, kids to help me determine this. Hate to say it but my Peplers weren't all well behaved when it comes to names and spellings, so knowing the parents and siblings has really helped identify some people. One other benefit I have found in using genealogy software comes when I answer queries. I have found that if I send a correspondent a report or chart of their family (even if only 2 generations) and ask them to check it for mistakes or missing information - I usually get a very good response. Seems they love the personal attention, a chance to correct someone with their superior knowledge and just in general feel important. I have gotten some incredible help this way, including a 300 page published book. Producing the report I send, in most cases takes about 5 minutes, so that's a pretty good return. You may already have a genealogy program. If you do - great. But if not, consider getting one. I realy believe crosschecking between tree based and spreadsheet based data collections helps find the discrepancies in each. BTW - since you are spreadsheet based - a contribution to the World Wide Marriage Index would be greatly appreciated. If you have questions - just email me. Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Norman Thornton via <goons@rootsweb.com> To: Paul Howes <paul@howesfamilies.com>; goons@rootsweb.com Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [G] Guild Marriage Index Hi, I am a new member and was greatly encouraged by Mr Howes' thoughts. The reason I joined the guild was because of the wealth of extraneous Thornton data I was collecting as I singlemindly plodded on with my own line of research. To me it seemed sad there was no way of storing all this valuable data that had no direct bearing on my research, this seems to mirror some of his thoughts. I am interested in databases and what form they take. Having hit a brick wall, I decided to continue my own researcher by indexing all the Thorntons or related name variants in the Old Parish Records in Scotland. I did it by eye onto a word page and I doubt it could be readily copied. similarly the related research on all the Thorntons in the 1851 Census in West Lothian is probably not in an acceptable form for copying. I have found some new variants of my name And am contemplating updating first exercise using Excel to sort the whole data base. I would have thought this would be one suitable storage vase, as it is commonly available, and therefore when superceded [as is the fate of all things it seems], the IT community will produce a programme to transcribe it into the latest format. As I am new to the Guild I would be interested in feedback. Norman Thornton

I really enjoyed this little video that Ann recommended. It is sad to think how many family photographs will have been destroyed. As well as images of people - I have several portrait galleries of photographs of ancestors on my website - do my colleagues agree that it is important to have pictorial records of places too, particularly the insides of houses? It will be many years before anyone is really interested, but wherever I live I make a point of photographing the rooms in my home so that future generations can see how we lived in the 20th. and 21st. centuries. K Still on a Wildgoose Chase! http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~willgooseweb/

Following a pointer from Eastman I looked again at the US Access to Archival Databases site (AAD) <<http://www.archives.gov/aad>http://www.archives.gov/aad> And was pleased to find several interesting references to my main variants (including Foreign Policy Telegrams & Soldiers enlistment records) I note that Chris Pomery mentioned the potential of this site some 4 years ago Best regards Gordon +Z [+Z] <http://www.adshead.com/> Gordon Adshead <gordon@adshead.com> [+Z] Beaumont House, 2 Goodrington Road, Handforth, Cheshire, SK9 3AT, UK [+Z] Tel:+44-1625-549770 Mob:+44-7776-145602

Thank you very much -----Original Message----- From: Debbie Kennett via Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 8:01 PM To: 'Norman Thornton' ; goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] Guild library Norman You might like to make use of the Guild electronic library to archive your Thornton data. If you are using a family tree program you can also submit a GEDCOM file to the library which can be searched by other members. There are instructions about lodging material with the Guild here: http://www.one-name.org/members/donating.html You can search the library here: http://www.one-name.org/cgi-bin/library/zoom/search.cgi There are quite a few Thornton references though many of them are to place names rather than surnames. There is a library catalogue here: http://www.one-name.org/cgi-bin/library/search.cgi Best wishes Debbie _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All Some of our members may be interested in this conference, please see the link near the end for further details. Tony Harris #5904 PHILO ONS   ________________________________________ From: Jonathan Hanley [mailto:jonathan.hanley@york.ac.uk] Sent: 27 November 2014 11:42 To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: England's Immigrants Public Conference Dear all, I'm writing to invite you to a major, one-day public conference which will announce the results of a three-year project to investigate the names, origins, occupations and households of the thousands of foreigners who chose to make their lives and livelihoods in England in the era of the Hundred Years War, the Black Death and the Wars of the Roses.   DATABASE The conference will include the launch, and a full demonstration of, the project’s database, with over 64,000 entries. The database will be publicly available from the time of the conference, free of charge. THE IMMIGRANT EXPERIENCE The conference will also include a showcase of the research undertaken by an international team of experts on particular immigrant groups, the rules and regulations around immigration in the Middle Ages, and notions of foreignness and nationality. Full details are available in the conference programme.    POSTER SESSION We will be hosting a poster session during the lunch-break: anyone interested in presenting a poster on the history of aliens, foreigners and strangers (either of the Middle Ages or of other periods) is most welcome to present (please sign up is the registration materials).   Please note:   -          There is no registration fee or catering charge for this conference, but all those wishing to attend need to register via the link below -          Spaces are limited, and you are encouraged to book early -          Delegates wishing to stay overnight in York are invited to make their own arrangements: advice is available via the link below. To find out more information and to book your place on the conference, please visit: http://www.york.ac.uk/medieval-studies/conferences/englandsimmigrants 1330-1550/ Jonathan Hanley Editorial Assistant  England's Immigrants, 1330-1550

Norman You might like to make use of the Guild electronic library to archive your Thornton data. If you are using a family tree program you can also submit a GEDCOM file to the library which can be searched by other members. There are instructions about lodging material with the Guild here: http://www.one-name.org/members/donating.html You can search the library here: http://www.one-name.org/cgi-bin/library/zoom/search.cgi There are quite a few Thornton references though many of them are to place names rather than surnames. There is a library catalogue here: http://www.one-name.org/cgi-bin/library/search.cgi Best wishes Debbie

Hi Maureen For your one-name study you should get one of your brothers to do a 37-marker Y-DNA test. You can buy this test all year round from the Guild for £80 inclusive of postage: http://www.one-name.org/members/sales/DNAkits.html If you buy a 37-marker kit in the FTDNA sale you would also have to pay the postage which is $9.95 per kit so it's generally cheaper to buy from the Guild, and the Guild also gets a small percentage on each sale. I strongly recommend that you contact Susan Meates, the Guild's DNA Advisor, so that you can get a project set up for the Waycott surname. It doesn't matter if your brother is the only person in the project. It's important to reserve the name while you have the chance. You can just run the project on a passive basis. You can contact Susan at dna@one-name.org. She will do all the project set up for you. If one of your brothers takes the test do make sure that you also add him to my Devon DNA Project: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/devon For family history purposes it would also be a good idea to get both your brothers and your cousin to take the Family Finder autosomal DNA test. Although you've already tested yourself it helps to test as many close family members as possible, especially if your parents aren't available for testing. You and your two brothers will each inherit different percentages of DNA from your various ancestors and they might well pick up matches that you don't get. There are various coupons available for $10 off the Family Finder test so if you use one of those it will only cost $79 (£51) in the sale. Best wishes Debbie Kennett Member no. 4554 Cruwys/Cruse/Cruise one-name study -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maureen Kenchington via Sent: 02 December 2014 11:36 To: GOONS@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] Which DNA test? I am considering buying a Y-DNA test in the familytreeDNA sale. I have had my own mtDNA fully tested with interesting results - my maternal ancestry seems to have been in Devon since the last Ice Age! Our male WAYCOTT bloodline will die out in my generation (though not the name, thanks to deed poll). I have 2 brothers and a male cousin, one of whom I am hoping to persuade to test. Eventually we may be able to link up with other WAYCOTT lines. I'd be grateful for suggestions for the best test to choose, for ONS purposes as well as family tree. Maureen Kenchington

Hi to all members I am not sure how many members actually visit Rennison's List on a regular basis as part of the Upper Dales Family History Group website. (See link below) But I hope that those who do find it a useful and interesting resource as a starting point for finding a range of Genealogical websites from a list organised into 23 categories or topics. It is searchable by selecting a category or simply by entering a keyword in the appropriate block. My thanks must again go to Peter Underwood web-master for UDFHG who has recently uploaded the latest dataset of URL links which now includes 2400 websites. Think of this as an early Christmas Present, but it isn't until you unwrap the paper that you will find out details of the new 100 websites that have been added recently. I do post individual new sites but no longer post blocks of 20 new finds. If members did find that method particularly useful I can easily re-instate it. Also thanks to those members who have posted new sites on the Forum or sent them direct. Anything received is checked against the current dataset, examined and then included in the correct categories. So please continue to post new sites, it is an ideal way of passing information on quickly to members. And talking of Christmas can I wish members my compliments of the season, hoping that you have a "Joyeux Noelle". And for those across the border, the breathalyser limit is now half of what it was, so make sure you have a designated driver at your party celebrations. Rennison Rennison's List on http://www.upperdalesfhg.org.uk/rennisons.htm The Vayro Ancestry on http://www.vayro.name Vayro Database on http://vayro.tribalpages.com Vayro Guild of One-Name Studies Profile http://one-name.org/name_profile/vayro/ http://www.rennisonprimarydesigntechnology.info Searching for VAYRO, VARO, VARAH and variations worldwide

Hi, I am a new member and was greatly encouraged by Mr Howes' thoughts. The reason I joined the guild was because of the wealth of extraneous Thornton data I was collecting as I singlemindly plodded on with my own line of research. To me it seemed sad there was no way of storing all this valuable data that had no direct bearing on my research, this seems to mirror some of his thoughts. I am interested in databases and what form they take. Having hit a brick wall, I decided to continue my own researcher by indexing all the Thorntons or related name variants in the Old Parish Records in Scotland. I did it by eye onto a word page and I doubt it could be readily copied. similarly the related research on all the Thorntons in the 1851 Census in West Lothian is probably not in an acceptable form for copying. I have found some new variants of my name And am contemplating updating first exercise using Excel to sort the whole data base. I would have thought this would be one suitable storage vase, as it is commonly available, and therefore when superceded [as is the fate of all things it seems], the IT community will produce a programme to transcribe it into the latest format. As I am new to the Guild I would be interested in feedback. Norman Thornton -----Original Message----- From: Paul Howes via Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 2:11 AM To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G] Guild Marriage Index Like many Guild members, I suspect, I plod on with my own study and hope that those volunteers who serve on the committee have things under control and are thinking carefully about (i) what we are doing, (ii) where we are heading, given how quickly the world is changing around us, particularly the availability of data and its consequent impact on how people work and what they/we need and also (iii) how we should best get there. So I put my hand up and admit that I haven't read committee minutes since I gave up my position thereon. Ooops. I read the report concerned and like the overall approach. Our committee is clearly engaged in debating at least the first two of the above issues. Anne will correct me if I'm wrong but it does appear that it's the technical aspects of the old GMI database (eg, heavy load on the webserver) as much as anything else that caused the "dinosaur" reference. I take her point that "something must be done". Even knowing that the committee will have discussed the materials aready and may not feel able to respond directly, I do have 2 or 3 thoughts which I hope will contribute to the longer-term debate: 1 - I remember reading something like "the GMI contributes very little beyond what's available from FreeBMD." I submit that that statement is missing a couple of aspects: -a- particularly for new members coming to it for the first time, it will in several cases already have solved the puzzle of which two of the four people typically on the same RD/Qr/Vol/Page actually married each other. Sure, it doesn't have all of the details but if you're reconstructing families, it saves a lot of time and it's very welcome to a new member to find that the Guild already has some resources that can help. -b- (more importantly, IMHO) seeing the body of knowledge that has already been built up by previous members, it should send the message to all members of the importance of doing their part and sharing their own findings. Yes, it's subtle, but nonetheless powerful. Nobody says you must contribute, or even that it's expected, but it is hoped for. And it's my firm belief that once people have contributed to a database they themselves feel that they have some "sweat equity" in it which further binds all of us together. 2 - In that regard, I'd just point out that all the data I have provided to the Guild has been freely shared, without even a consideration that there might be any terms and conditions. Others may feel differently, but I point this out in the expectation that I am not alone and that perhaps it's not knotty for everyone. 3 - As has been recently discussed on the forum, having the GMI explicitly has, I think, had some benefit on the collection of cardinal points beyond just members' studies' marriages, which are then aids to the research of all members and perhaps the promotion of the Guild to the public through the marriage locator. So I support the merging of the databases into one big one for all marriages, from wherever in the world and whenever, no matter how much or how little detail AND a simpler search mechanism, AS LONG AS we remember the multiple sources of data and the multiple ways that it is delivered into the database AND we do what we can to keep up the enthusiasm of all concerned, even if we need to change a few things along the way. So my questions here are (hoping they've already been considered): - how can we change things for the better while retaining the support, enthusiasm and experience of those involved in getting us to this point? - one of the potential downsides of a very flexible database is that it can be confusing to people wanting to contribute. We need to allow multiple ways to contribute AND make it easy to do so, not just once, but whenever the member wants to resubmit fresh data.. Really hope this helps, at least a bit! Regards Paul On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Anne Shankland via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > It is very easy to quote a word out of context and thus give the wrong > impression. I hope that the members will read the report on the website > to > understand the context for my comment on the GMI as the rationale for the > Worldwide Marriages Index. > > Anne Shankland > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Rix via" <goons@rootsweb.com> > To: <goons@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 9:05 PM > Subject: [G] Guild Marriage Index > > >> Dear Members >> >> I am saddened to see the GMI described as a "dinosaur" in the Review of >> the Guild Marriage Indexes by Anne Shankland in the Documentation for >> the last Committee Meeting (No 21 on the Agenda) >> http://one-name.org/members/minutes/2014Nov/21%20Review%20of%20Guild%20Marriage%20Indexes.pdf. >> >> >> Mary Rix >> >> > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -- Paul Howes www.howesfamilies.com Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All & in particular Anne, Nevertheless that word was used, which, I am sure on reflection another word/phrase could have been used. I am equally sure that Mary RIX and, to me quitely rightly so, takes the use of that word as a personal slight implying ALL her hard work is now out of date. Regards Tony Anthony John MINGAY, now in NZ once of Kent & Suffolk, England but still researching Worldwide the surname MINGAY & its variants. http://www.mingayhistory.co.uk.

Forum members - Please let's consider the thread following Mary Rix's recent remark closed. Thank you! Wendy -- Wendy Archer Guild Forum Manager

I have over the last few days been reading the various reports. There is much to digest and especially the report produced by Anne as it lengthy and deals with some important assets held by the Guild on behalf of, and for the benefit of the members. I will therefore comment further as necessary when I have re-read these reports. I do feel compelled to comment on the initial comment on this thread. I genuinely do not believe that Anne has intended to disrespect Mary or the huge contribution that has been made to the Guild. The remark was made as a demonstrative point - to express that whilst the data is of course important to the Guild, the way it is structured, is out dated and can be used and stored in a much more efficient and modern method. Nothing more, nothing less. We all appreciate the work each of us do, both in terms of administration of the Guild or members collecting and processing data to add to the indexes that are held for members. The considerable time it takes to manage and maintain those numerous indexes. The work of volunteers. I agree with subsequent comments, I think from Tessa, who said we need to (not a direct quote) to take a step back. We should look at the proposal & paper written by Anne and the initial details outline in Paul Millington's paper. We should, and as family historians we know that we need to take ALL the facts and look at them in the context that they are presented in, before we, the membership make any individual decisions or comments. To not include all the facts compromises how we make informed decisions and comments. We, the membership asked that the committee was more transparent. The committee is actively being more transparent. Enabling us as members to be more involved. We should not be asking for something and then virtually complaining when it is done, because we do not like what we read, see or take something out of the context it was written in. We also need to remember that this forum is accessible to non members of the Guild and we should therefore be mindfull of that when writing, especially if non members access the email thread via the archives and then do not have access to the papers to which reference is made. That enables non members to build an inaccurate image of the Guild. Regards Julie Goucher Guild Member 3925 Orlando & Worship ONS Regional Rep South Devon > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Anne Shankland via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > It is very easy to quote a word out of context and thus give the wrong > > impression. I hope that the members will read the report on the website to > > understand the context for my comment on the GMI as the rationale for the > > Worldwide Marriages Index. > > > > Anne Shankland > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mary Rix via" <goons@rootsweb.com> > > To: <goons@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 9:05 PM > > Subject: [G] Guild Marriage Index > > > > > >> Dear Members > >> > >> I am saddened to see the GMI described as a "dinosaur" in the Review of > >> the Guild Marriage Indexes by Anne Shankland in the Documentation for > >> the last Committee Meeting (No 21 on the Agenda) > >> http://one-name.org/members/minutes/2014Nov/21%20Review%20of%20Guild%20Marriage%20Indexes.pdf. > >> > >> > >> Mary Rix > >> > >>

It is very sad to see untoward remarks on the website. We need a generosity of spirit and recognition for the immense amount of dedication & hard work carried out by our volunteers. When my father was a midshipman he had to copy out a poem called 'The Laws of the Navy'. This was then framed & hung in the front hall of whichever house we lived in. From it I quote: 'They prosper, who burn in the morning, The letters they wrote overnight. ' Let us be considerate to one another! Lauretta Harris 3434

The festive season is zooming closer. The January Journal will soon be arriving, with the usual nomination forms for Committee and postholders. Please do give consideration whether you can support our Guild and volunteer to stand for the Committee or maybe one of the many postholder positions. Do not be put off if there is currently a postholder in place they may well welcome some help or in fact be looking to stand down but feel they do not want to without a successor. Do talk to the person currently holding the position, you may be welcomed in fact I suspect you will be <vbg> Nominations (and any relevant paperwork) for Committee and Master Craftsmen need to be with me by 28 January 2015 at the very latest please. Working for the Guild can be very enjoyable and rewarding. Do give it consideration I wish you all a very happy Christmas and a healthy, prosperous and rewarding 2015 Very best wishes, Jan Cooper Secretary - Guild of One-Name Studies www.greathead.org Always searching for Gre(a)(e)t(e)(h)e(a)(e)d's worldwide