I've made a commitment to a local genealogy society here in Florida to give two presentations next year on researching British genealogy, each for 90 minutes or so, plus time for questions. I've made a presumption in advance that I will split the two sessions into pre- and post-civil registration, but that's still open. Yes, I know it's barely scratching the surface of such a huge topic in 3 hours, but Americans would say the same thing to anyone trying the reverse in the UK! Question: does anyone have (access to) anything similar that I could use as a base? I'm quite willing to re-invent the wheel, but I'd prefer not to! If so, please send to me direct. If I get material help from Guild members, I will be happy to place whatever I come up with in the Members' Room, with speaker's notes, for the use of any other interested party. Thank you in advance for any help Paul -- Paul Howes www.howesfamilies.com Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide

I was offered a month for £1 with this code. Still worth having! Celia (Dodd) godson@one-name.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Burgum via" <goons@rootsweb.com> To: "Maria Robinson" <postcardlil@hotmail.co.uk>; <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [G] Find My Past renewal > Unless someone knows differently, I believe this offer of an annual > subscription for £10 is an error and that FindMyPast have now corrected > it. > I think it was intended to be £10 per month. The link > http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=707305. seems to suggest > that recent attempts to take up the offer today have failed (including > mine). > > If anyone finds the offer is still available, please repost. > > Doug Burgum > Researching Burgum and Burgham worldwide > www.burgumfamily.com > Ordino, Andorra, and Olivella, Spain > > > > On 9 December 2014 at 15:32, Maria Robinson via <goons@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> FindMyPast UK annual subscription offer £10!!! >> >> >> >> This is for UK for anyone with a current or lapsed subscription should be >> able to use this and extend (as many times as you wish), just checking >> Worldwide or if they will add the UK onto my Worldwide >> >> >> >> The Code is FHSANTA14 on your account renewal page and if necessary >> follow >> the instructions here: >> http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=707305. >> >> >> >> Maria Robinson >> >> 6393 >> >> Belcher, Los and Youle >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Unless someone knows differently, I believe this offer of an annual subscription for £10 is an error and that FindMyPast have now corrected it. I think it was intended to be £10 per month. The link http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=707305. seems to suggest that recent attempts to take up the offer today have failed (including mine). If anyone finds the offer is still available, please repost. Doug Burgum Researching Burgum and Burgham worldwide www.burgumfamily.com Ordino, Andorra, and Olivella, Spain On 9 December 2014 at 15:32, Maria Robinson via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > FindMyPast UK annual subscription offer £10!!! > > > > This is for UK for anyone with a current or lapsed subscription should be > able to use this and extend (as many times as you wish), just checking > Worldwide or if they will add the UK onto my Worldwide > > > > The Code is FHSANTA14 on your account renewal page and if necessary follow > the instructions here: > http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=707305. > > > > Maria Robinson > > 6393 > > Belcher, Los and Youle > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Chris I'm not saying your Greys didn't come from Russia but when I looked for Corner I found "James Corner" given as the name of a ship arriving at Boston. I doubt there was a ship sailing from Russia with that name, but there were shipping agents in Baltimore at that time called "James Corner and Company" (hence the name?). There are Corners in some of the other records but suspect they may have to be looked at carefully. Interesting set of records nevertheless. Ann McDonald Corner ONS On 9 December 2014 at 06:10, Christopher Gray via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Now I really do know that I need to study the GRAY name in Germany. I knew > there were a significant number there, but looking at the AAD entries > relating to the Immigration of Germans to the United States (1850 - 1897) I > found 55 mentions of the name GRAY - most of which relate to people with > that surname. Ireland (1846-1851) was less of a surprise, but then I noted > three from Russia (1834-1897) - now where on earth did they spring from? > Anyone know where the Russian BMDs can be found? > > Germany Ireland Russia > GRAY 55 494 > GREY 76 131 3 > > Chris > >> From: Gordon Adshead <gordon@adshead.com> >> >>Following a pointer from Eastman I looked again at the US Access >>to Archival Databases site (AAD) >> >><http://www.archives.gov/aad> >> > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

FindMyPast UK annual subscription offer £10!!! This is for UK for anyone with a current or lapsed subscription should be able to use this and extend (as many times as you wish), just checking Worldwide or if they will add the UK onto my Worldwide The Code is FHSANTA14 on your account renewal page and if necessary follow the instructions here: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=707305. Maria Robinson 6393 Belcher, Los and Youle

I have set up a separate Flickr account to save my ONS images, using the album facility to separate headstones, cemetery's, and person images. and document images, I am also hoping that I will be able to use the site to link to the images from my TNG web site, using default images in TNG, but that at the moment is a ongoing experiment. As for titles I have used the name of the person with a life span, hoping I don't have two people with the same name and the same life span years. Paul 2627 Seasons Greetings from Featherstone's around the globe. On 08/12/2014 18:31, Corinne Curtis via wrote: > I agree that photos need to be preserved and shared. A couple of > years ago I scanned every photo I could find that my Mum had, and it > was quite scary how many weren't named or dated - if we couldn't > remember them ourselves, then that bit of history was lost. > > As far as the ONS goes, I've been thinking about setting up some kind > of online photo gallery for both people and significant places. I'm > familiar with the likes of flickr, though haven't used it for years. > Does anyone have any ideas of ways to set up a mugs gallery online? > Preferably free, and it would require being able to clearly identify > photo subjects (preferably in an obvious title) and put a small > description, as well as perhaps being able to group or sort them (eg > by time, or by family group) and to allow administrator privileges to > several people. I don't think it particularly needs to have any kind > of guestbook facility. Currently I'm putting up photos on facebook, > but its hard to sort through them and see exactly what is there. > >

Hi all I will be undertaking a repeat of the Amersham RD Marriage Challenge (last done in 2006) but this time I'm also extending it to 1951. It is primarily for registered names (and variants) but I will accept requests for small numbers of non-registered names. I will search all the deposited Anglican parish registers for this RD (most of which go beyond 1951) and any deposited non-conformist registers I can find. I will return any results as e-mailed faux-certificates (unless specifically requested otherwise) and I will submit any data that I find to the Guild Marriage Index (and Marriage Locator). However, as it makes it very hard to have to change everyone's own format into a standard set of columns, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE use the Guild's normal MC spreadsheet format (there is now a template on the MC web-page) so all requests are in the same format. If you do not use the Guild's MC spreadsheet, please send me the information as follows:- Year Quarter (please use 1,2,3,4) Surname (please use CAPITALS) First Names (please use Mixed Case) GRO Volume No GRO Page No. Can you also include your Guild number as it helps me keep track of "orders". The cut-off date for submissions of requests will be 31st January 2015 (to allow for the delivery of the next Journal). Brian Horridge brian.horridge@one-name.org

Hi - there seems to be some confusion as the family came from Aberdeen. Maybe the ship came from Russia via Aberdeen. One day I'll have a look. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Ann McDonald [mailto:annmcd399@gmail.com] Sent: 09 December 2014 02:18 To: Christopher Gray; goons@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G] GRAY name in Germany [RE: US Access to Archival Databases - AAD] Hi Chris I'm not saying your Greys didn't come from Russia but when I looked for Corner I found "James Corner" given as the name of a ship arriving at Boston. I doubt there was a ship sailing from Russia with that name, but there were shipping agents in Baltimore at that time called "James Corner and Company" (hence the name?). There are Corners in some of the other records but suspect they may have to be looked at carefully. Interesting set of records nevertheless. Ann McDonald Corner ONS On 9 December 2014 at 06:10, Christopher Gray via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Now I really do know that I need to study the GRAY name in Germany. I > knew there were a significant number there, but looking at the AAD > entries relating to the Immigration of Germans to the United States > (1850 - 1897) I found 55 mentions of the name GRAY - most of which > relate to people with that surname. Ireland (1846-1851) was less of a > surprise, but then I noted three from Russia (1834-1897) - now where on earth did they spring from? > Anyone know where the Russian BMDs can be found? > > Germany Ireland Russia > GRAY 55 494 > GREY 76 131 3 > > Chris > >> From: Gordon Adshead <gordon@adshead.com> >> >>Following a pointer from Eastman I looked again at the US Access to >>Archival Databases site (AAD) >> >><http://www.archives.gov/aad> >> > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I also have failed to download a Westminster marriage for the past week. No problem with other FMP datasets. David Wharton -----Original Message----- From: June Willing via Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 6:27 PM To: Rose Norton ; goons@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G] Married twice? Hi Rose A bond is not a marriage, it is part of the licence, which is to avoid the delay caused by having to calls the banns. In simple terms, two people, usually the groom and a friend, declared that both parties were free to marry. In the bond, these two people agreed that they would pay the sum stated if it turns out that the two parties were not free to marry. This sum is usually large enough to be a deterrent, for instance I have a bond dated 1747 in which my ancestor John Willing, a farmer of Wembury, Devon, agreed to pay 200 pounds, an enormous sum in those days. If Ernest and Edile did marry twice, it was normally because he had not got permission the first time, but the bond itself is not proof of that. They did actually marry on 16 February 1916 at St George Hanover Square. This marriage is on FMP, though I could not get the image to load, so there may be a problem with it. June Willing Guild of One-Name Studies member no 2117 Willing/Willings One-Name Study http://one-name.org/name_profile/Willing/ Willing/Willings DNA Project http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Willing/ Dominicus One-Name Study http://one-name.org/name_profile/dominicus-2/ On 8 Dec 2014, at 12:59, Rose Norton via wrote: > Hello > > Looking at the rest of my family tree I came across something I have > never > seen. A Bond of marriage. Its sworn in St Georges Hanover Square > between > Ernest Ambrose Syratt and Edile Marie Daeghsel in Feb 1915. There is a > registration for the same date. I haven't been able to find the > marriage so > I'm presuming this Bond is it. Then they married in Ipswich Jul-Sep > 1915. So > should I presume that he hadn't got permission from the army to > marry first > time round? He was in 2/6th City of London battalion of London > Regiment and > died of wounds in 1917 in France. As far as I can see they did not > have > children and I have no idea what happened to Edile. I found this > bond of > marriage so interesting I got a copy off Ancestry. > > Rose Norton > Bierton 6008 > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

I agree that photos need to be preserved and shared. A couple of years ago I scanned every photo I could find that my Mum had, and it was quite scary how many weren't named or dated - if we couldn't remember them ourselves, then that bit of history was lost. As far as the ONS goes, I've been thinking about setting up some kind of online photo gallery for both people and significant places. I'm familiar with the likes of flickr, though haven't used it for years. Does anyone have any ideas of ways to set up a mugs gallery online? Preferably free, and it would require being able to clearly identify photo subjects (preferably in an obvious title) and put a small description, as well as perhaps being able to group or sort them (eg by time, or by family group) and to allow administrator privileges to several people. I don't think it particularly needs to have any kind of guestbook facility. Currently I'm putting up photos on facebook, but its hard to sort through them and see exactly what is there. Corinne Curtis #5579 On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:03 AM, SBS Engineers Research via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Afternoon/Morning all > > RE: encouraging children to take an interest in their ancestry. This came via a member of our WAGS. A nice little YouTube video with a message to start the day. > FamilySearch ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reZ5nNhztYI > > Regards > > Ann Spiro > Guild ONS Representative for WA & NT. rep-australia-north-west@one-name.org > Guild registered surnames: BASKETT; BRIGGS http://www.one-name.org/ > Baskett DNA Project: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Baskett > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Rose A bond is not a marriage, it is part of the licence, which is to avoid the delay caused by having to calls the banns. In simple terms, two people, usually the groom and a friend, declared that both parties were free to marry. In the bond, these two people agreed that they would pay the sum stated if it turns out that the two parties were not free to marry. This sum is usually large enough to be a deterrent, for instance I have a bond dated 1747 in which my ancestor John Willing, a farmer of Wembury, Devon, agreed to pay 200 pounds, an enormous sum in those days. If Ernest and Edile did marry twice, it was normally because he had not got permission the first time, but the bond itself is not proof of that. They did actually marry on 16 February 1916 at St George Hanover Square. This marriage is on FMP, though I could not get the image to load, so there may be a problem with it. June Willing Guild of One-Name Studies member no 2117 Willing/Willings One-Name Study http://one-name.org/name_profile/Willing/ Willing/Willings DNA Project http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Willing/ Dominicus One-Name Study http://one-name.org/name_profile/dominicus-2/ On 8 Dec 2014, at 12:59, Rose Norton via wrote: > Hello > > Looking at the rest of my family tree I came across something I have > never > seen. A Bond of marriage. Its sworn in St Georges Hanover Square > between > Ernest Ambrose Syratt and Edile Marie Daeghsel in Feb 1915. There is a > registration for the same date. I haven't been able to find the > marriage so > I'm presuming this Bond is it. Then they married in Ipswich Jul-Sep > 1915. So > should I presume that he hadn't got permission from the army to > marry first > time round? He was in 2/6th City of London battalion of London > Regiment and > died of wounds in 1917 in France. As far as I can see they did not > have > children and I have no idea what happened to Edile. I found this > bond of > marriage so interesting I got a copy off Ancestry. > > Rose Norton > Bierton 6008 > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Check family search - then try to view the films for those records. Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher Gray via <goons@rootsweb.com> To: goons@rootsweb.com Cc: Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 12:10 PM Subject: [G] GRAY name in Germany [RE: US Access to Archival Databases - AAD] Now I really do know that I need to study the GRAY name in Germany. I knew there were a significant number there, but looking at the AAD entries relating to the Immigration of Germans to the United States (1850 - 1897) I found 55 mentions of the name GRAY - most of which relate to people with that surname. Ireland (1846-1851) was less of a surprise, but then I noted three from Russia (1834-1897) - now where on earth did they spring from? Anyone know where the Russian BMDs can be found? Germany Ireland Russia GRAY 55 494 GREY 76 131 3 Chris > From: Gordon Adshead <gordon@adshead.com> > >Following a pointer from Eastman I looked again at the US Access >to Archival Databases site (AAD) > ><http://www.archives.gov/aad> > _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Now I really do know that I need to study the GRAY name in Germany. I knew there were a significant number there, but looking at the AAD entries relating to the Immigration of Germans to the United States (1850 - 1897) I found 55 mentions of the name GRAY - most of which relate to people with that surname. Ireland (1846-1851) was less of a surprise, but then I noted three from Russia (1834-1897) - now where on earth did they spring from? Anyone know where the Russian BMDs can be found? Germany Ireland Russia GRAY 55 494 GREY 76 131 3 Chris > From: Gordon Adshead <gordon@adshead.com> > >Following a pointer from Eastman I looked again at the US Access >to Archival Databases site (AAD) > ><http://www.archives.gov/aad> >

Hello Looking at the rest of my family tree I came across something I have never seen. A Bond of marriage. Its sworn in St Georges Hanover Square between Ernest Ambrose Syratt and Edile Marie Daeghsel in Feb 1915. There is a registration for the same date. I haven't been able to find the marriage so I'm presuming this Bond is it. Then they married in Ipswich Jul-Sep 1915. So should I presume that he hadn't got permission from the army to marry first time round? He was in 2/6th City of London battalion of London Regiment and died of wounds in 1917 in France. As far as I can see they did not have children and I have no idea what happened to Edile. I found this bond of marriage so interesting I got a copy off Ancestry. Rose Norton Bierton 6008

Well you certainly find a lot of interesting types of file when you search for BOWES Martha I am very impressed with the scope of the information and the very professional set of guidelines and help files on AAD. I too was challenged at first to find the "Manifest Data Header File" But the key seems to be to look at the list of all files in a particular category. Best regards Gordon At 23:29 07/12/2014, Martha Bowes via wrote: >Figured it out. The Manifest Data Header File is linked to from right >below the Passenger Data File. Just didn't go back enough pages to >spot it. > >Martha Bowes >Guild No. 5048 > >On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Martha Bowes <bowessurnames@gmail.com> wrote: > >> From: Gordon Adshead <gordon@adshead.com> > > > >> Following a pointer from Eastman I looked again at the US Access > to Archival Databases site (AAD) > > ><http://www.archives.gov/aad> > > > > Thanks for that Gordon. Interestingly I found some Bowes in the 19th c > > German immigration records. For the life of me, after reading the > > instructions, I cannot figure out how to obtain the date and port of > > arrival. Does anyone have that figured out? > > > > Martha Bowes > > Guild No. 5048 [+Z] <http://www.adshead.com/> Gordon Adshead <gordon@adshead.com> [+Z] Beaumont House, 2 Goodrington Road, Handforth, Cheshire, SK9 3AT, UK [+Z] Tel:+44-1625-549770 Mob:+44-7776-145602

Good morning Norman, Please forgive us for going "techie". For most people, knowledge of acronyms such as SQL, together with database tools such as Microsoft's Access, are not applicable to their lives or their hobby. What is more important is the tool you choose to use. Ron mentioned "Legacy", which is one of a wide range of tools that can be used to support the management of data pertaining the "family trees". I mentioned Custodian and Excel as two of a number of tools that can also be used in a one-name study. Your comment "I rather think it would be too easy sitting around trying to decide the best tool and never build anything." is spot on. You choose what is best for you today. If you want to bounce ideas around - then this forum is a great place to do so. Chris -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Norman Thornton via Sent: 07 December 2014 18:42 To: ronfergy.aul; goons@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G] Guild Marriage Index Mr Ferguson, I appreciated your and Chris response. I rather think it would be too easy sitting around trying to decide the best tool and never build anything. I was interested in your response, as you clearly want to assist me but your message is beyond my comprehension! Not trying to be cheeky - but what does it mean? Norman Thornton -----Original Message----- From: ronfergy.aul via Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2014 3:40 PM To: Christopher Gray ; goons@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G] Guild Marriage Index Chris, You may not be aware that Legacy is an SQL DB with an Access based front end. Ron Ferguson

Ron Ferguson sent 07 December 2014 15:41 > You may not be aware that Legacy is an SQL DB with an Access based front end. Good day Ron, I was not aware of this. However, Legacy is what I call a "tree" program. The vast majority of my data items are not linked to trees and so my database is a collection of items. For example - 300,000 entries from the 1841-1901 UK census indices (I've not yet had the patience to download the 1911 entries) and another 300,000 from freeBMD while I only have 6,000 people in trees. As mentioned in a number of places - the big question about this raw data is "so what?". I have little use for the freeBMD dataset at this time as I tend to just use individual references. However, I see no point in deleting it. The major dataset is that of the UK Census - with that for other countries following in due course. This will allow me to look at such as migration patterns, geographic distributions and other areas of research that I see being part of a one-name study. Thanks again for your information. Chris

Marie, Legacy is a Windows system. To use it with the Mac OS you have to run it using a Windows emulator. Fiona — 5538 - Duignan & variants On 7 Dec 2014, at 21:12, Marie Byatt via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Sounds like you are off to a good start - spreadsheets are great for gathering data and sorting it. Its especially nice now that Family Search actually provides a button that allows one to do this and their spreadsheet includes the transcribing batch number. > I urge you not to overlook the benefits of Family connecting at the same time. I think you need to incorporate both types of data storage. The Family context acts as a checker for the spreadsheets. Too many times for my happiness, I have discovered that what looked to be a new group of Peplers for me has actually been individuals listed under a completely wrong name in one census or other type data base. Having the family connection has enabled me to verify this - where the single name of John or Mary or William wouldn't. There are many packages out there, I use Roots Magic, but many members also use Legacy ( which I believe has both MAC and windows version), Family Historian and several others. All have different strengths. > My normal practice When I get new data (say the 1870 census for the US) - I make my spreadsheet, sort for location and them go and add it as a new fact for each of the individuals on the list. If I can't find the person , I mark the entry and go on to the next. At the end, I come back to the marked people and decide if they are Peplers or not and do I have them already under a different name. I use the family structure ( spouse, parents, kids to help me determine this. Hate to say it but my Peplers weren't all well behaved when it comes to names and spellings, so knowing the parents and siblings has really helped identify some people. > One other benefit I have found in using genealogy software comes when I answer queries. I have found that if I send a correspondent a report or chart of their family (even if only 2 generations) and ask them to check it for mistakes or missing information - I usually get a very good response. Seems they love the personal attention, a chance to correct someone with their superior knowledge and just in general feel important. I have gotten some incredible help this way, including a 300 page published book. Producing the report I send, in most cases takes about 5 minutes, so that's a pretty good return. > You may already have a genealogy program. If you do - great. But if not, consider getting one. I realy believe crosschecking between tree based and spreadsheet based data collections helps find the discrepancies in each. > > BTW - since you are spreadsheet based - a contribution to the World Wide Marriage Index would be greatly appreciated. If you have questions - just email me. > > > Marie (GOONS 5318) > > > Bringing the world together one surname at a time. > 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com > 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com > Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ > 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com >

Mr Ferguson, I appreciated your and Chris response. I rather think it would be too easy sitting around trying to decide the best tool and never build anything. I was interested in your response, as you clearly want to assist me but your message is beyond my comprehension! Not trying to be cheeky - but what does it mean? Norman Thornton -----Original Message----- From: ronfergy.aul via Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2014 3:40 PM To: Christopher Gray ; goons@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G] Guild Marriage Index Chris, You may not be aware that Legacy is an SQL DB with an Access based front end. Ron Ferguson Sent from my Xperia™ smartphone Christopher Gray via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >Good morning Norman - your stated reason for joining the Guild is not >uncommon - I too joined because I had so much data unrelated to my line of >research. > >Spreadsheets are widely used for gathering data together in a way that can >be readily indexed or cross-referenced - and Excel is a commonly used tool. >There are many, many members who are experienced in using this approach. > >Some use the Custodian tool. This was developed by members of the Guild >specifically for One-Name Studies and is geared towards enabling easy >recording and assimilating seemingly unrelated data from a wide range of >sources. > >Many people use hand-written records and some keep their data in a >word-processor (e.g. Word). Others record it directly onto a web-site >(e.g. >a "blog"). > >Lots of different approaches - the problem many have is finding one that >suits their way of working. Then one needs to recognise that, as one gains >more experience of what it is that one is aiming to do and how one prefers >to do it, then the original choice of tool can be outgrown. I frequently >find that trying to guess what type of tool I may need in the future is >wasting my time and I need to plump for a widely used one I feel >comfortable >with. In my case it was the spreadsheet in Works. I'm now starting to >investigate the use SQLserver with an MSaccess front-end - but Excel is >still my main data holder. > >So - choose what you are comfortable with. > >Chris > >-----Original Message----- >From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >Behalf Of Norman Thornton via >Sent: 06 December 2014 15:18 >To: Paul Howes; goons@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [G] Guild Marriage Index > >Hi, I am a new member and was greatly encouraged by Mr Howes' thoughts. The >reason I joined the guild was because of the wealth of extraneous Thornton >data I was collecting as I singlemindly plodded on with my own line of >research. To me it seemed sad there was no way of storing all this valuable >data that had no direct bearing on my research, this seems to mirror some >of >his thoughts. >I am interested in databases and what form they take. > Having hit a brick wall, I decided to continue my own researcher by >indexing all the Thorntons or related name variants in the Old Parish >Records in Scotland. I did it by eye onto a word page and I doubt it could >be readily copied. similarly the related research on all the Thorntons in >the 1851 Census in West Lothian is probably not in an acceptable form for >copying. > I have found some new variants of my name And am contemplating updating >first exercise using Excel to sort the whole data base. I would have >thought >this would be one suitable storage vase, as it is commonly available, and >therefore when superceded [as is the fate of all things it seems], the IT >community will produce a programme to transcribe it into the latest format. > As I am new to the Guild I would be interested in feedback. Norman >Thornton > > > > > _____________________________________________ > >RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc >http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Figured it out. The Manifest Data Header File is linked to from right below the Passenger Data File. Just didn't go back enough pages to spot it. Martha Bowes Guild No. 5048 On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Martha Bowes <bowessurnames@gmail.com> wrote: >> From: Gordon Adshead <gordon@adshead.com> > >> Following a pointer from Eastman I looked again at the US Access to Archival Databases site (AAD) > http://www.archives.gov/aad>http://www.archives.gov/aad > > Thanks for that Gordon. Interestingly I found some Bowes in the 19th c > German immigration records. For the life of me, after reading the > instructions, I cannot figure out how to obtain the date and port of > arrival. Does anyone have that figured out? > > Martha Bowes > Guild No. 5048