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    1. Re: [G] Kudos
    2. Julie Goucher via
    3. On 16 December 2014 at 00:12, John P Laws via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > The problem is the site, not my computer - the idea Hmmm! It was nice to > find a link to the old site though, I do recall when our magazine took it's > glossy form from its original matt form, I objected to the change then, so > maybe it's just me. > > I'm a bit of a Dinosaurs Rex - big - sharp teeth - small brain and likely > to become extinct soon. > > BTW Is it not possible that we could move our forum from antiquated public > Rootsweb, and move it to our already up and running private Google plus > community > > Whilst this forum is not perfect it does provide a good mode of sharing, information and discussion for members. It also enables non members to read the discussion points via the archives and perhaps join us. Effectively this forum is our shop window. A Google+ Community is a good idea, There is already a private Guild Community https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/105192164788119705673 There is also an open to all, Guild owned Surnames Community https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/115248071390369725970 Not everyone uses or understands the promise of Google+ and personally I feel a closed forum is a bit like a shop window that entices people to enter only to find that the door is locked. Wherever the discussion is, this forum or the community via Google the value of those arenas is as good as the conversations taking place. As individuals we only get out what we put in. Regards Julie Goucher Guild Member 3925 Orlando & Worship ONS Regional Rep ~ South Devon

    12/16/2014 12:41:47
    1. [G] Chesterfield Marriage Challenge
    2. S Horsman via
    3. I am posting this on behalf of John Moses. The Chesterfield Marriage Challenge stage 2 (1861-1880) is now complete and all results have been sent out as PDF faux certificates. If anyone has not received theirs please contact me (John) direct at moses@one-name.org and I will resend them. Sue Horsman

    12/16/2014 12:18:22
    1. Re: [G] profile page references to Index records
    2. Marie Byatt via
    3. You bring up an interesting question/point. WHen the index results were all behind the paywall - Study owners really only wanted to see 'new' results - ones they didn't have- so searching on just spouses made sense. ANd it still does for members. I don't want to sift through all the marriages I have submitted to find the four or five 'new' ones. BUt now that the number of returns is in front of the paywall, it makes sense for members to want the 'braggin rights' that indicate how big their study is. Remember that number is only for that spelling of your study name the numbers change for different variants. Try a few different names and see what happens. Names like Jones ( which is not a study) now show up with results where before all you got was - there is no study for that name- . The searcher still gets that message but to it is added that our studies do have some information on that name. I think this is good - encouraging - showing the Guild has very diverse information. Some ideas for solutions 1. IF you want people to know the size of your study - ***PUT the number on the profile page yourself*** - You know best what that number is. You control it and as your study grows - change the number. 2. Number of submissions to indexes - this is a bit different and really may not be indicative of your study size - I know one individual submitted a list of 65K to the Worldwide index but only 5K were complete enough to be included. So including it on the public display may not be a good idea. Again it may be better for one to put the number on from their own count ------- Study size 140K, number of marriages 50K Really those numbers at the bottom of your profile page do not reflect your study - they show other resources that the GUild has that include the name. Perhaps they should be headed - "More resources" afterall the searcher has already found your page and the bona fide expert. But it is helpful for members to know how many submissions they have made to an index - so asking ANNe - at least as far as the WWM goes - could a member when signed in get a count of how many submissions had been made by their member number? 3. Finally, going way out on a limb, perhaps it would be an idea to allow the results of a search to be available to the general public - that is outside the paywall. I would suggest the WWM and the personal archives for this. The first because I have made sure that all the contributors to this are willing to share information if contacted, the second because in setting up a personal archives, one indicates the degree of privacy desired - so only those that said 'public' would be available. Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com ________________________________ From: Corinne Curtis via <goons@rootsweb.com> To: goons@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:19 AM Subject: [G] profile page references to Index records I really like the link to the numbers of records held in Guild indexes that has now appeared on our profile pages. However, as these pages are public pages, I wonder if it would be possible to have a further listing: "number of Sennett references submitted to Guild indexes by the Sennett study". Right now, the information is only really useful to me in showing how many other studies have a crossover with mine, and I think it may give a false impression to the public that my study is very limited if a viewer thinks there are only the 14 references that it currently shows. I also wonder whether the search facility that fails to show up references submitted in your study name is now outmoded? It would be great to be able to do both types of searches. I've completely lost track of what I have submitted, and while I know I could ask for a listing, that just makes it that one step more difficult to keep an eye on my submissions. I'd also like to be able to submit material to indexes on other surnames that may not be registered, and I'm not sure if this is allowed? Is it just me, or do others think this way? Corinne Curtis #5579 (Sennett ONS) _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/15/2014 09:46:22
    1. Re: [G] Kudos
    2. Anne Shankland via
    3. Yes, I agree that these relatively low numbers don't give an accurate picture of the size or progress of your study. But both the GMI and the WWM allow searching ONLY on the spouse name, whether the search is being done by you or anyone else. So the thousands of entries you have put in with your name as the study name CANNOT be found by a search on your name (unless your name appears as the spouse name as well). This isn't a defect, it's a design point. The indexes were designed this way to guard against someone harvesting all your work. Even the counts I gave are not generally available - I was able to find them as I can look directly at the GMI and the WWM databases. Perhaps, as you say, the larger numbers should be quoted on the profile page? What do others think? Anne Shankland Web Indexes Administrator ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Howes via" <goons@rootsweb.com> To: "Anne Shankland" <shankland@one-name.org>; <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [G] Kudos > Thanks much, Anne. Thing is, that most of the time the search from my > profile page is not being performed by me, but someone else. By > showing the lower, as opposed to larger, numbers the size of my (and > everyone else's) study appears somewhat smaller than in reality it is. > Did you give consideration to using the larger numbers for a member of > the public, ie, on the profile page? > Regards > Paul > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Anne Shankland > <anne.shankland@gmail.com> wrote: >> Paul, the numbers returned for HOWES in the GMI and the Worldwide >> Marriages >> (439 and 190 respectively) are the numbers of entries in which Howes >> occurs >> as the spouse name of someone else's study name. >> >> The 4,764 entries in the GMI and the 8,902 entries in the Worldwide >> Marriages which have HOWES as the study name don't get returned because - >> presumably - you know all about those already, having submitted them >> yourself! The searches return entries which perhaps you don't yet know >> about because they relate to someone else's studies. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Anne Shankland >> Web Indexes Administrator >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Howes via" <goons@rootsweb.com> >> To: <goons@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 7:38 PM >> Subject: Re: [G] Kudos >> >> >>> Right on, Julie, and well done to the webmaster and team. It does >>> make the profile appear more interesting. >>> >>> The search at the bottom of my profile page shows 439 matches in the >>> GMI and only 190 in the Worldwide index, whereas both contain many >>> thousands of Howes entries, let alone other names in my study. Does >>> anyone know what these numbers (439 and 190) are? Will the same ones >>> be seen by others? >>> >>> Oh, and is there a way to stop "House" finding Stenhouse, Moorehouse, >>> et al? (No disrespect intended!) >>> Paul >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Julie Goucher via <goons@rootsweb.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 15 December 2014 at 16:22, Marie Byatt via <goons@rootsweb.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Number 1 - if you haven't used the Guild homepage search in the last 5 >>>>> or >>>>> 6 days - do so now. Nigel has done a fantastic job of arranging the >>>>> search >>>>> results to show what the Guild offers on any given surname. Actual >>>>> details >>>>> may be behind the paywall but the teasers are there. Much more >>>>> interesting >>>>> than just someone is or is not doing a study on the name. Scroll down >>>>> to >>>>> the bottom of any Profile page as well. It's a great improvement and >>>>> I >>>>> think makes the site friendlier. >>>>> >>>>> Number 2 - As you all know, I load material to the WWM (World Wide >>>>> Marriages Index - now over 150 thousand names and growing) - one of >>>>> the >>>>> byproducts of this activity has meant that I have had a much wider >>>>> peek >>>>> into other peoples studies. ANd honestly, I am blown away by the >>>>> sheer >>>>> scope and magnitude of the work done. You members of the Guild have >>>>> done >>>>> fantastic work, a university should be so good. Maps, DNA, Etymology, >>>>> Data >>>>> crunching, Story telling, Immigration patterns, medieval manuscripts, >>>>> farming methods, midwifery, military concerns - if it concerns your >>>>> surname >>>>> in anyway, you study it, you analyse it and then produce results >>>>> others >>>>> can >>>>> use. Traditional historians could learn a lot from you. SO may I say >>>>> congratulations and keep it up . And for those of you that haven't >>>>> looked >>>>> at other studies, use the new search and visit some of the members >>>>> websites >>>>> - there are less than 700 so at one a day - it's less than 2 years. >>>>> I >>>>> have gotten so many >>>>> ideas I hope to include in my study, maybe I'll produce a movie. >>>>> >>>>> Finally I 'm still looking for more marriages - anywhere - anytime >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Marie, >>>> >>>> I absolutely second your post. Nigel has done a great job of getting >>>> the >>>> website into a constant state of development. Each time I log in there >>>> are >>>> changes, tweaks and additions. I have not logged into the indexes page >>>> today, but will do later and I promise I will send in some marriages >>>> for >>>> the World wide index, but it won't be this side of Christmas! >>>> >>>> Everyone it seems is using the buzz word Collaboration. In some cases >>>> we >>>> use buzz words and yet rarely deliver. We are routinely collaborating, >>>> sharing information whether that is here, on a hangout or via the >>>> indexes >>>> which are looked after and co-ordinated by a team of Guild volunteers. >>>> That >>>> is the real collaboration when we each bring our own contributions to >>>> the >>>> table for the benefit of other members. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Julie Goucher >>>> Guild Member 3925 >>>> Orlando & Worship ONS >>>> South Devon Regional Rep >>>> _____________________________________________ >>>> >>>> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc >>>> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in >>>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Paul Howes >>> www.howesfamilies.com >>> Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide >>> _____________________________________________ >>> >>> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc >>> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >> > > > > -- > Paul Howes > www.howesfamilies.com > Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/15/2014 06:09:28
    1. Re: [G] Kudos etc etc
    2. John P Laws via
    3. Hi One-Namers Everywhere While I am having a growl, Do Dinosaurs growl or roar GRRR! (a beef Whatever?) about the new site. Can I ask - Why is there a link to how to join, - inside the pay-wall? And why is it is NOT necessary to register a study name in order to join? (inside the pay-wall), surely that makes us into a general Family History Society in competition with many others out there. Surely it should say (outside the pay-wall) that it IS necessary to register a study name in order to join. which makes us what we claim to be a Guild of One-Name Studies, nothing less - nothing more.

    12/15/2014 05:50:05
    1. Re: [G] Kudos
    2. John P Laws via
    3. The problem is the site, not my computer - the idea Hmmm! It was nice to find a link to the old site though, I do recall when our magazine took it's glossy form from its original matt form, I objected to the change then, so maybe it's just me. I'm a bit of a Dinosaurs Rex - big - sharp teeth - small brain and likely to become extinct soon. BTW Is it not possible that we could move our forum from antiquated public Rootsweb, and move it to our already up and running private Google plus community John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History wwww.lawsfamilyregisterr.tribalpages.com www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.com

    12/15/2014 05:12:13
    1. Re: [G] Kudos
    2. Fíona Tipple via
    3. Actually, possibly less of a problem for newbies than for people used to the old website? They’re less likely to keep harking back to the good old days, I think. I know sometimes things go a bit pear-shaped, but overall, I think the site is improving all the time. For instance, I find the new profile page MUCH easier to edit than the old one. Fiona Tipple — 5538 - Duignan & variants On 15 Dec 2014, at 21:03, John P Laws via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I'm certain I'll get criticised for sticking my head over the parapet, but > if I'm having problems how is it for the newbies. > > > John P Laws

    12/15/2014 04:28:54
    1. Re: [G] Kudos
    2. Anne Shankland via
    3. Paul, the numbers returned for HOWES in the GMI and the Worldwide Marriages (439 and 190 respectively) are the numbers of entries in which Howes occurs as the spouse name of someone else's study name. The 4,764 entries in the GMI and the 8,902 entries in the Worldwide Marriages which have HOWES as the study name don't get returned because - presumably - you know all about those already, having submitted them yourself! The searches return entries which perhaps you don't yet know about because they relate to someone else's studies. Hope this helps. Anne Shankland Web Indexes Administrator ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Howes via" <goons@rootsweb.com> To: <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [G] Kudos > Right on, Julie, and well done to the webmaster and team. It does > make the profile appear more interesting. > > The search at the bottom of my profile page shows 439 matches in the > GMI and only 190 in the Worldwide index, whereas both contain many > thousands of Howes entries, let alone other names in my study. Does > anyone know what these numbers (439 and 190) are? Will the same ones > be seen by others? > > Oh, and is there a way to stop "House" finding Stenhouse, Moorehouse, > et al? (No disrespect intended!) > Paul > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Julie Goucher via <goons@rootsweb.com> > wrote: >> On 15 December 2014 at 16:22, Marie Byatt via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >>> Number 1 - if you haven't used the Guild homepage search in the last 5 >>> or >>> 6 days - do so now. Nigel has done a fantastic job of arranging the >>> search >>> results to show what the Guild offers on any given surname. Actual >>> details >>> may be behind the paywall but the teasers are there. Much more >>> interesting >>> than just someone is or is not doing a study on the name. Scroll down >>> to >>> the bottom of any Profile page as well. It's a great improvement and I >>> think makes the site friendlier. >>> >>> Number 2 - As you all know, I load material to the WWM (World Wide >>> Marriages Index - now over 150 thousand names and growing) - one of the >>> byproducts of this activity has meant that I have had a much wider peek >>> into other peoples studies. ANd honestly, I am blown away by the sheer >>> scope and magnitude of the work done. You members of the Guild have >>> done >>> fantastic work, a university should be so good. Maps, DNA, Etymology, >>> Data >>> crunching, Story telling, Immigration patterns, medieval manuscripts, >>> farming methods, midwifery, military concerns - if it concerns your >>> surname >>> in anyway, you study it, you analyse it and then produce results others >>> can >>> use. Traditional historians could learn a lot from you. SO may I say >>> congratulations and keep it up . And for those of you that haven't >>> looked >>> at other studies, use the new search and visit some of the members >>> websites >>> - there are less than 700 so at one a day - it's less than 2 years. I >>> have gotten so many >>> ideas I hope to include in my study, maybe I'll produce a movie. >>> >>> Finally I 'm still looking for more marriages - anywhere - anytime >>> >>> >>> >> Marie, >> >> I absolutely second your post. Nigel has done a great job of getting the >> website into a constant state of development. Each time I log in there >> are >> changes, tweaks and additions. I have not logged into the indexes page >> today, but will do later and I promise I will send in some marriages for >> the World wide index, but it won't be this side of Christmas! >> >> Everyone it seems is using the buzz word Collaboration. In some cases we >> use buzz words and yet rarely deliver. We are routinely collaborating, >> sharing information whether that is here, on a hangout or via the indexes >> which are looked after and co-ordinated by a team of Guild volunteers. >> That >> is the real collaboration when we each bring our own contributions to the >> table for the benefit of other members. >> >> Regards >> >> Julie Goucher >> Guild Member 3925 >> Orlando & Worship ONS >> South Devon Regional Rep >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > Paul Howes > www.howesfamilies.com > Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/15/2014 03:01:44
    1. Re: [G] Thomas H Vayro
    2. Nicholas Spence via
    3. John You say that THV died and was married in Belper RD but I can't see any evidence that he was born there - there is no birth registration in Belper district that I could find on ancestry around 1890. Also I have looked at the 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses and can't find him in any of them . Virtually all Vayros born around then were born in Yorkshire not Derbyshire As far as service records are concerned, ancestry lists only one for a Thomas Vayro. The page of the record giving birthplace and date of birth is virtually illegible - on my screen at any rate - but ancestry's indexer seems to think he was born in Yorkshire in about 1884 and served in the Durham LI. Also in the record he is called just Thomas, not Thomas Henry. A Thomas H was granted a couple of medals but medal cards sadly give very little other information. Very mysterious. Nick member 4108 Chesson and variants On 15/12/2014 16:32, Ian Middlebrook via wrote: > Hi John, > > There's a Thomas Henry Vayro born in 1890 at Pickhill, Yorks (Thirsk > district) - son of John & Martha. > 1891 at West Tanfield, Yorks > 1901 at East Harlsey, Yorks > 1911 a (horse) groom in Warwickshire > > Seems to be the only match. > > Hope this helps. > > Ian Middlebrook > GOONS #6498 > > > > On Mon, December 15, 2014 3:47 pm, RENNISON john.vayro@sky.com via wrote: >> Hi to members >> >> >> >> Need a little help please. >> A couple of new contacts have opened up another avenue for research in >> Belper Derbyshire, which is one of the areas of the UK that I have not >> covered before. >> >>> From what I have so far Thomas H Vayro was born in 1890 in Belper and >>> died aged 77 in Belper 1967 (registration Oct/Dec quarter) >> >> I have a marriage in Belper to Edith M Short in 1914 (registration >> July/Sept quarter) >> >> >> I also have a Thomas H Vayro 3374 300 Bll Private, Hpusehold Cavalry, >> Staffs Yeomanry, Sherwood Rangers Corps of Hussars CMIC SWBC >>

    12/15/2014 02:34:47
    1. Re: [G] Kudos
    2. John P Laws via
    3. Hi One-Namers Everywhere Am I missing something? Can't say I like the new site that much, yes its glossy to be sure, but as to content and ease of navigation, I think I preferred the old site with all its faults, everything was easy to find once one drilled down a couple levels. I tried to update my profile and somehow it decided to resize the fonts without any instructions from me, the links are tiny, tried to change it but in the end decided to leave well alone. Perhaps I need a roadmap or perhaps new glasses, there are very few menu's on the homepage. I'm certain I'll get criticised for sticking my head over the parapet, but if I'm having problems how is it for the newbies. John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History wwww.lawsfamilyregisterr.tribalpages.com www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.com

    12/15/2014 02:03:28
    1. Re: [G] Kudos
    2. Julie Goucher via
    3. On 15 December 2014 at 16:22, Marie Byatt via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Number 1 - if you haven't used the Guild homepage search in the last 5 or > 6 days - do so now. Nigel has done a fantastic job of arranging the search > results to show what the Guild offers on any given surname. Actual details > may be behind the paywall but the teasers are there. Much more interesting > than just someone is or is not doing a study on the name. Scroll down to > the bottom of any Profile page as well. It's a great improvement and I > think makes the site friendlier. > > Number 2 - As you all know, I load material to the WWM (World Wide > Marriages Index - now over 150 thousand names and growing) - one of the > byproducts of this activity has meant that I have had a much wider peek > into other peoples studies. ANd honestly, I am blown away by the sheer > scope and magnitude of the work done. You members of the Guild have done > fantastic work, a university should be so good. Maps, DNA, Etymology, Data > crunching, Story telling, Immigration patterns, medieval manuscripts, > farming methods, midwifery, military concerns - if it concerns your surname > in anyway, you study it, you analyse it and then produce results others can > use. Traditional historians could learn a lot from you. SO may I say > congratulations and keep it up . And for those of you that haven't looked > at other studies, use the new search and visit some of the members websites > - there are less than 700 so at one a day - it's less than 2 years. I > have gotten so many > ideas I hope to include in my study, maybe I'll produce a movie. > > Finally I 'm still looking for more marriages - anywhere - anytime > > > Marie, I absolutely second your post. Nigel has done a great job of getting the website into a constant state of development. Each time I log in there are changes, tweaks and additions. I have not logged into the indexes page today, but will do later and I promise I will send in some marriages for the World wide index, but it won't be this side of Christmas! Everyone it seems is using the buzz word Collaboration. In some cases we use buzz words and yet rarely deliver. We are routinely collaborating, sharing information whether that is here, on a hangout or via the indexes which are looked after and co-ordinated by a team of Guild volunteers. That is the real collaboration when we each bring our own contributions to the table for the benefit of other members. Regards Julie Goucher Guild Member 3925 Orlando & Worship ONS South Devon Regional Rep

    12/15/2014 11:42:01
    1. Re: [G] Kudos
    2. Julie Goucher via
    3. On 15 December 2014 at 17:29, NIKKI BROWN via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > It looks very good and the bit of the bottom of the profile page is > interesting. I'm surprised by the overlap of our study surnames, but > perhaps I shouldn't be? > Nikki > 6552 > Pullum ONS > > Nikki, I wasn't sure what your meant at first and had to login to the site to have a look. That was a nice little surprise from Nigel and the webmaster team. We are very, very lucky that the team marches on and keeps delivering all these little improvements. Thanks so much! Regards Julie Goucher Guild Member 3925 Orlando & Worship ONS Regional Rep ~ South Devon

    12/15/2014 11:33:45
    1. Re: [G] Kudos
    2. Paul Howes via
    3. Thanks much, Anne. Thing is, that most of the time the search from my profile page is not being performed by me, but someone else. By showing the lower, as opposed to larger, numbers the size of my (and everyone else's) study appears somewhat smaller than in reality it is. Did you give consideration to using the larger numbers for a member of the public, ie, on the profile page? Regards Paul On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Anne Shankland <anne.shankland@gmail.com> wrote: > Paul, the numbers returned for HOWES in the GMI and the Worldwide Marriages > (439 and 190 respectively) are the numbers of entries in which Howes occurs > as the spouse name of someone else's study name. > > The 4,764 entries in the GMI and the 8,902 entries in the Worldwide > Marriages which have HOWES as the study name don't get returned because - > presumably - you know all about those already, having submitted them > yourself! The searches return entries which perhaps you don't yet know > about because they relate to someone else's studies. > > Hope this helps. > > Anne Shankland > Web Indexes Administrator > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Howes via" <goons@rootsweb.com> > To: <goons@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 7:38 PM > Subject: Re: [G] Kudos > > >> Right on, Julie, and well done to the webmaster and team. It does >> make the profile appear more interesting. >> >> The search at the bottom of my profile page shows 439 matches in the >> GMI and only 190 in the Worldwide index, whereas both contain many >> thousands of Howes entries, let alone other names in my study. Does >> anyone know what these numbers (439 and 190) are? Will the same ones >> be seen by others? >> >> Oh, and is there a way to stop "House" finding Stenhouse, Moorehouse, >> et al? (No disrespect intended!) >> Paul >> >> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Julie Goucher via <goons@rootsweb.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> On 15 December 2014 at 16:22, Marie Byatt via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Number 1 - if you haven't used the Guild homepage search in the last 5 >>>> or >>>> 6 days - do so now. Nigel has done a fantastic job of arranging the >>>> search >>>> results to show what the Guild offers on any given surname. Actual >>>> details >>>> may be behind the paywall but the teasers are there. Much more >>>> interesting >>>> than just someone is or is not doing a study on the name. Scroll down >>>> to >>>> the bottom of any Profile page as well. It's a great improvement and I >>>> think makes the site friendlier. >>>> >>>> Number 2 - As you all know, I load material to the WWM (World Wide >>>> Marriages Index - now over 150 thousand names and growing) - one of the >>>> byproducts of this activity has meant that I have had a much wider peek >>>> into other peoples studies. ANd honestly, I am blown away by the sheer >>>> scope and magnitude of the work done. You members of the Guild have >>>> done >>>> fantastic work, a university should be so good. Maps, DNA, Etymology, >>>> Data >>>> crunching, Story telling, Immigration patterns, medieval manuscripts, >>>> farming methods, midwifery, military concerns - if it concerns your >>>> surname >>>> in anyway, you study it, you analyse it and then produce results others >>>> can >>>> use. Traditional historians could learn a lot from you. SO may I say >>>> congratulations and keep it up . And for those of you that haven't >>>> looked >>>> at other studies, use the new search and visit some of the members >>>> websites >>>> - there are less than 700 so at one a day - it's less than 2 years. I >>>> have gotten so many >>>> ideas I hope to include in my study, maybe I'll produce a movie. >>>> >>>> Finally I 'm still looking for more marriages - anywhere - anytime >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Marie, >>> >>> I absolutely second your post. Nigel has done a great job of getting the >>> website into a constant state of development. Each time I log in there >>> are >>> changes, tweaks and additions. I have not logged into the indexes page >>> today, but will do later and I promise I will send in some marriages for >>> the World wide index, but it won't be this side of Christmas! >>> >>> Everyone it seems is using the buzz word Collaboration. In some cases we >>> use buzz words and yet rarely deliver. We are routinely collaborating, >>> sharing information whether that is here, on a hangout or via the indexes >>> which are looked after and co-ordinated by a team of Guild volunteers. >>> That >>> is the real collaboration when we each bring our own contributions to the >>> table for the benefit of other members. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Julie Goucher >>> Guild Member 3925 >>> Orlando & Worship ONS >>> South Devon Regional Rep >>> _____________________________________________ >>> >>> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc >>> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >>> the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Paul Howes >> www.howesfamilies.com >> Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> > -- Paul Howes www.howesfamilies.com Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide

    12/15/2014 11:04:18
    1. Re: [G] Thomas H Vayro
    2. DonJGrant via
    3. John Just searching on Vayro births in Belper shows three generations of Vayro births in Belper 1917-31 (three births mms Short),1944-58 (5 births, two families) and 1979-85 (2 births, 1 family). FMP have a 1950 engagement notice for the youngest son of the first generation (parents Thomas and Mrs Vayro living in Belper), so, wherever he was born, Thomas seems to have been settled in Belper by 1914 and lived there for the rest of his life. But there's something of a mystery as to where he was for the census before this. I agree that there is nothing to show him being born in Belper (although the way the death appears on FMP - b 1890 d 1957 Belper - might have misled folk.) But I think the Thomas Henry (b Pickhill, Yorks) is the most likely candidate, given he was a groom age 20 in Warwickshire (1911) and seems to have ended up in a cavalry regiment in WW1. Don Grant Scoon ONS 5642 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 15/12/2014 21:36:24 GMT Standard Time, goons@rootsweb.com writes: John You say that THV died and was married in Belper RD but I can't see any evidence that he was born there - there is no birth registration in Belper district that I could find on ancestry around 1890. Also I have looked at the 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses and can't find him in any of them . Virtually all Vayros born around then were born in Yorkshire not Derbyshire As far as service records are concerned, ancestry lists only one for a Thomas Vayro. The page of the record giving birthplace and date of birth is virtually illegible - on my screen at any rate - but ancestry's indexer seems to think he was born in Yorkshire in about 1884 and served in the Durham LI. Also in the record he is called just Thomas, not Thomas Henry. A Thomas H was granted a couple of medals but medal cards sadly give very little other information. Very mysterious. Nick member 4108 Chesson and variants On 15/12/2014 16:32, Ian Middlebrook via wrote: > Hi John, > > There's a Thomas Henry Vayro born in 1890 at Pickhill, Yorks (Thirsk > district) - son of John & Martha. > 1891 at West Tanfield, Yorks > 1901 at East Harlsey, Yorks > 1911 a (horse) groom in Warwickshire > > Seems to be the only match. > > Hope this helps. > > Ian Middlebrook > GOONS #6498 > > > > On Mon, December 15, 2014 3:47 pm, RENNISON john.vayro@sky.com via wrote: >> Hi to members >> >> >> >> Need a little help please. >> A couple of new contacts have opened up another avenue for research in >> Belper Derbyshire, which is one of the areas of the UK that I have not >> covered before. >> >>> From what I have so far Thomas H Vayro was born in 1890 in Belper and >>> died aged 77 in Belper 1967 (registration Oct/Dec quarter) >> >> I have a marriage in Belper to Edith M Short in 1914 (registration >> July/Sept quarter) >> >> >> I also have a Thomas H Vayro 3374 300 Bll Private, Hpusehold Cavalry, >> Staffs Yeomanry, Sherwood Rangers Corps of Hussars CMIC SWBC >> _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/15/2014 10:59:26
    1. Re: [G] Kudos
    2. NIKKI BROWN via
    3. It looks very good and the bit of the bottom of the profile page is interesting. I'm surprised by the overlap of our study surnames, but perhaps I shouldn't be? Nikki 6552 Pullum ONS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Byatt via" <goons@rootsweb.com> To: goons@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 15 December, 2014 4:22:35 PM Subject: [G] Kudos Number 1 - if you haven't used the Guild homepage search in the last 5 or 6 days - do so now. Nigel has done a fantastic job of arranging the search results to show what the Guild offers on any given surname. Actual details may be behind the paywall but the teasers are there. Much more interesting than just someone is or is not doing a study on the name. Scroll down to the bottom of any Profile page as well. It's a great improvement and I think makes the site friendlier. Number 2 - As you all know, I load material to the WWM (World Wide Marriages Index - now over 150 thousand names and growing) - one of the byproducts of this activity has meant that I have had a much wider peek into other peoples studies. ANd honestly, I am blown away by the sheer scope and magnitude of the work done. You members of the Guild have done fantastic work, a university should be so good. Maps, DNA, Etymology, Data crunching, Story telling, Immigration patterns, medieval manuscripts, farming methods, midwifery, military concerns - if it concerns your surname in anyway, you study it, you analyse it and then produce results others can use. Traditional historians could learn a lot from you. SO may I say congratulations and keep it up . And for those of you that haven't looked at other studies, use the new search and visit some of the members websites - there are less than 700 so at one a day - it's less than 2 years. I have gotten so many ideas I hope to include in my study, maybe I'll produce a movie. Finally I 'm still looking for more marriages - anywhere - anytime Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/15/2014 10:29:58
    1. Re: [G] Thomas H Vayro
    2. Ian Middlebrook via
    3. Hi John, There's a Thomas Henry Vayro born in 1890 at Pickhill, Yorks (Thirsk district) - son of John & Martha. 1891 at West Tanfield, Yorks 1901 at East Harlsey, Yorks 1911 a (horse) groom in Warwickshire Seems to be the only match. Hope this helps. Ian Middlebrook GOONS #6498 On Mon, December 15, 2014 3:47 pm, RENNISON john.vayro@sky.com via wrote: > > > Hi to members > > > > Need a little help please. > A couple of new contacts have opened up another avenue for research in > Belper Derbyshire, which is one of the areas of the UK that I have not > covered before. > >> From what I have so far Thomas H Vayro was born in 1890 in Belper and >> died aged 77 in Belper 1967 (registration Oct/Dec quarter) > > > I have a marriage in Belper to Edith M Short in 1914 (registration > July/Sept quarter) > > > I also have a Thomas H Vayro 3374 300 Bll Private, Hpusehold Cavalry, > Staffs Yeomanry, Sherwood Rangers Corps of Hussars CMIC SWBC >

    12/15/2014 09:32:53
    1. [G] Thomas H Vayro
    2. Hi to members Need a little help please. A couple of new contacts have opened up another avenue for research in Belper Derbyshire, which is one of the areas of the UK that I have not covered before. >From what I have so far Thomas H Vayro was born in 1890 in Belper and died aged 77 in Belper 1967 (registration Oct/Dec quarter) I have a marriage in Belper to Edith M Short in 1914 (registration July/Sept quarter) I also have a Thomas H Vayro 3374 300 Bll Private, Hpusehold Cavalry, Staffs Yeomanry, Sherwood Rangers Corps of Hussars CMIC SWBC Details from the family show sons Norman, Dennis and Percy J T Vayro. The enquiries are from Norman and Percy's grandchildren. ie I have a vague tree of 4 generations all in the Belper area I intend to look at the 1891, 1901 and 1911 census sites, but I have good records for previous searches of these, and cannot trace a T H V I wondered if any member had access to the Parish Records for Belper from around 1860 through to 1930?. What I need firstly are the names of T H Vayro's parents, to see if they came from the Wensleydale families I have already. At present I simply cannot match his birth/Christening with any of over 25 Thomas Vayro's that I have on my main database. On another point, not having access to either Ancestry.co.uk or findmypast, I wondered if someone could look up the "Burnt records" to see if anything is there about his war service. Many thanks in anticipation. Rennison's List on http://www.upperdalesfhg.org.uk/rennisons.htm The Vayro Ancestry on http://www.vayro.name Vayro Database on http://vayro.tribalpages.com Vayro Guild of One-Name Studies Profile http://one-name.org/name_profile/vayro/ http://www.rennisonprimarydesigntechnology.info Searching for VAYRO, VARO, VARAH and variations worldwide

    12/15/2014 08:47:15
    1. Re: [G] Kudos
    2. Tessa Keough via
    3. I think you might be John but not sure what the problem is. Everyone will have their own take on things John, but for my part I was finally able to do my Profile and it was a simple matter of copying and pasting from a Word document. I love the fact that you can add media to each of the sections. I had no issues with fonts so I am wondering if this might be an issue with your computer rather than the website. Definitely something to check on - did you update from a previous profile or was it a new profile? As to the information at the new and old sites - when you sign in there are aspects that have been updated and they are on the new site (actually everything is together but you either use the new section or click on the old section). Everything else is in the Members Room (right where it has been all along) and nothing there has changed yet. So you should have no issues finding things because they are still in the same places. When you have signed in (once now thankfully) you can get around in the revamped areas or go behind the scenes to the old familiar places. You might want to try that out John and I think you will easily find your way. Thanks to those who have been so hard at work on our website - it looks great and the revamp is really moving along. You deserve a round of applause. I really like the fact that I can see the events calendar, the surname search box, get easily to the members room and that my profile was so easy to input from a Word document. I am busily working away on the additional sections to add to my profile. What a great end to 2014 - to have come so far this year. Kudos to all! Tessa Tessa Keough Guild of One-Name Studies, Member No. 5089 Keough (Keogh, Kough & Kehoe) Registered ONS USA West Regional Representative On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 1:03 PM, John P Laws via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi One-Namers Everywhere > > Am I missing something? Can't say I like the new site that much, yes its > glossy to be sure, but as to content and ease of navigation, I think I > preferred the old site with all its faults, everything was easy to find once > one drilled down a couple levels. > > I tried to update my profile and somehow it decided to resize the fonts > without any instructions from me, the links are tiny, tried to change it but > in the end decided to leave well alone. > > Perhaps I need a roadmap or perhaps new glasses, there are very few menu's > on the homepage. > > I'm certain I'll get criticised for sticking my head over the parapet, but > if I'm having problems how is it for the newbies. > > > John P Laws > > Registrar > Laws Family Register > Putting Flesh on the Bones of History > > wwww.lawsfamilyregisterr.tribalpages.com > > www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/15/2014 08:03:42
    1. Re: [G] Kudos
    2. Paul Howes via
    3. Right on, Julie, and well done to the webmaster and team. It does make the profile appear more interesting. The search at the bottom of my profile page shows 439 matches in the GMI and only 190 in the Worldwide index, whereas both contain many thousands of Howes entries, let alone other names in my study. Does anyone know what these numbers (439 and 190) are? Will the same ones be seen by others? Oh, and is there a way to stop "House" finding Stenhouse, Moorehouse, et al? (No disrespect intended!) Paul On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Julie Goucher via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > On 15 December 2014 at 16:22, Marie Byatt via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Number 1 - if you haven't used the Guild homepage search in the last 5 or >> 6 days - do so now. Nigel has done a fantastic job of arranging the search >> results to show what the Guild offers on any given surname. Actual details >> may be behind the paywall but the teasers are there. Much more interesting >> than just someone is or is not doing a study on the name. Scroll down to >> the bottom of any Profile page as well. It's a great improvement and I >> think makes the site friendlier. >> >> Number 2 - As you all know, I load material to the WWM (World Wide >> Marriages Index - now over 150 thousand names and growing) - one of the >> byproducts of this activity has meant that I have had a much wider peek >> into other peoples studies. ANd honestly, I am blown away by the sheer >> scope and magnitude of the work done. You members of the Guild have done >> fantastic work, a university should be so good. Maps, DNA, Etymology, Data >> crunching, Story telling, Immigration patterns, medieval manuscripts, >> farming methods, midwifery, military concerns - if it concerns your surname >> in anyway, you study it, you analyse it and then produce results others can >> use. Traditional historians could learn a lot from you. SO may I say >> congratulations and keep it up . And for those of you that haven't looked >> at other studies, use the new search and visit some of the members websites >> - there are less than 700 so at one a day - it's less than 2 years. I >> have gotten so many >> ideas I hope to include in my study, maybe I'll produce a movie. >> >> Finally I 'm still looking for more marriages - anywhere - anytime >> >> >> > Marie, > > I absolutely second your post. Nigel has done a great job of getting the > website into a constant state of development. Each time I log in there are > changes, tweaks and additions. I have not logged into the indexes page > today, but will do later and I promise I will send in some marriages for > the World wide index, but it won't be this side of Christmas! > > Everyone it seems is using the buzz word Collaboration. In some cases we > use buzz words and yet rarely deliver. We are routinely collaborating, > sharing information whether that is here, on a hangout or via the indexes > which are looked after and co-ordinated by a team of Guild volunteers. That > is the real collaboration when we each bring our own contributions to the > table for the benefit of other members. > > Regards > > Julie Goucher > Guild Member 3925 > Orlando & Worship ONS > South Devon Regional Rep > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Paul Howes www.howesfamilies.com Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide

    12/15/2014 07:38:10
    1. [G] Kudos
    2. Marie Byatt via
    3. Number 1 - if you haven't used the Guild homepage search in the last 5 or 6 days - do so now. Nigel has done a fantastic job of arranging the search results to show what the Guild offers on any given surname. Actual details may be behind the paywall but the teasers are there. Much more interesting than just someone is or is not doing a study on the name. Scroll down to the bottom of any Profile page as well. It's a great improvement and I think makes the site friendlier. Number 2 - As you all know, I load material to the WWM (World Wide Marriages Index - now over 150 thousand names and growing) - one of the byproducts of this activity has meant that I have had a much wider peek into other peoples studies. ANd honestly, I am blown away by the sheer scope and magnitude of the work done. You members of the Guild have done fantastic work, a university should be so good. Maps, DNA, Etymology, Data crunching, Story telling, Immigration patterns, medieval manuscripts, farming methods, midwifery, military concerns - if it concerns your surname in anyway, you study it, you analyse it and then produce results others can use. Traditional historians could learn a lot from you. SO may I say congratulations and keep it up . And for those of you that haven't looked at other studies, use the new search and visit some of the members websites - there are less than 700 so at one a day - it's less than 2 years. I have gotten so many ideas I hope to include in my study, maybe I'll produce a movie. Finally I 'm still looking for more marriages - anywhere - anytime Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com

    12/15/2014 01:22:35