Hi Celia, Thank you for this as it included three Bawtrees. One, Ivan Lancelot, was a photographer in France 1915 which I didn't know about - he went on to organize graveyards for CWGC at the end of WW1 taking photographs of the mournful landscapes where fighting had taken place showing the remains of burnt trees and pitted ground that are often seen in magazines and newspapers. From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Celia Dodd via" <goons@rootsweb.com> To: <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 1:41 PM Subject: [G] Red Cross online archive >I learnt from a local newspaper that the Red Cross has collected 236,000 > records of members of its Voluntary Aid Detachments in the 1st World War. > So far only surnames beginning A-C have been uploaded at > www.redcross.org.uk/ww1 If you visit the website you can ask to to be > informed when records for surnames beginning with other letters of the > alphabet have been added. > > Celia (Dodd) > godson@one-name.org > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

There are in fact seven local newspapers in England that are closing. The Reading Post, GetReading and the Wokingham and Bracknell Times are to close along with the Surrey Herald, Surrey Times, Woking Informer and Harrow Observer. http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/trinity-mirror-close-seven-regional-newspapers -loss-50-jobs They are all part of the Trinity Mirror Group. The focus will instead now be on providing online content. It's a sign of the times but is perhaps inevitable. Debbie

Hi, We have a free newspaper delivered but it's appearance on my mat is becoming very rare, think I've only received half the editions this year and when I emailed to complain was told they are having difficulty in finding deliverers. If Luton appears on the national TV news I have to go online to discover more in a national news. I live on a road that police, ambulances, etc. use so get an inkling that something is going on, but rather frustrating not being able to discover what. On today's news, maybe Breakfast TV, there was a piece that one newspaper group was closing down and that their news would only be available online in future - could have been somewhere in Surrey? However seeking the local news online does not seem to include family announcements or traders adverts. From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Isard via" <goons@rootsweb.com> To: "'Julie Goucher'" <juliegoucher@gmail.com>; <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [G] Guild News Watch > Hi Julie > It goes like that sometimes, you get lots in one edition and then nothing > for a couple of edition > Well done keep up the good work > > Merry Christmas to you and your family > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Julie Goucher via > Sent: 17 December 2014 10:08 > To: GOONS > Subject: [G] Guild News Watch > > This morning I have just extracted several items for fellow Guild members. >>From this week's paper was: > > 2 obituaries > 1 in memory of > 1 Christmas announcement > 1 legal notice > 1 planning application > > At least three of those members did not have a profile page associated > with > their study. > > Five of those were for registered names and one for a surname interest. > > Not bad going for a paper with only 32 pages! > > Regards > > Julie Goucher > Guild Member 3925 > Orlando & Worship ONS > Regional Rep ~ South Devon > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Corrinne I think this will prove not to be one of yours. Looks to me like "Thomas Seamer son of John Seamer of Liddyard Treygoze in the County of Wilts Yeoman hath put himself apprentice to Ruth the Relict of Henry Wetherell late Cittizen and Patternmaker of London ..." Signature (torn) at the bottom, I read as Thomas Seyema__ Michael Tedd -----Original Message----- From: Corinne Curtis via Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 12:35 PM To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] help with transcribing Freedom of City admission paper Can anyone help me with a transcription of the hand written parts of the Indenture for Thomas Sennett in 1698? The image is on Ancestry: London, England, Freedom of the City Admission Papers, 1681-1925 for Thomas Sennitt - link is http://tinyurl.com/n83rrth The bits I'm most interested in are the gaps in the following partial transcription "This Indenture Witnesseth, That Thomas Sennett the sonne of John..... of.... .... in the County of ....(Middx?) Yeoman, hath put himself Apprentice to .. .. .. of ..... and patternmaker if London" Thanks Corinne Curtis (Sennett ONS) _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I learnt from a local newspaper that the Red Cross has collected 236,000 records of members of its Voluntary Aid Detachments in the 1st World War. So far only surnames beginning A-C have been uploaded at www.redcross.org.uk/ww1 If you visit the website you can ask to to be informed when records for surnames beginning with other letters of the alphabet have been added. Celia (Dodd) godson@one-name.org

> From: Corinne Curtis via > Sent: 17 December 2014 12:36 > > Can anyone help me with a transcription of the hand written parts of > the Indenture for Thomas Sennett in 1698? The image is on Ancestry: > London, England, Freedom of the City Admission Papers, 1681-1925 for > Thomas Sennitt - link is http://tinyurl.com/n83rrth > > The bits I'm most interested in are the gaps in the following partial > transcription "This Indenture Witnesseth, That Thomas Sennett the > sonne of John..... of.... .... in the County of ....(Middx?) Yeoman, > hath put himself Apprentice to .. .. .. of ..... and patternmaker if > London" This Indenture Witnesseth, That Thomas Seamer the sonne of John Seamer of Liddyard Treygoze in the County of Wilts Yeoman hath put himself Apprentice to Ruth the Relict of Henry Weatherall late Citizen and pattenmaker of London ..... So not a Sennett I'm afraid. Best wishes Andrew -- Andrew Millard - A.R.Millard@durham.ac.uk Chair, Trustees of Genuki: www.genuki.org.uk Maintainer, Genuki Middx + London: www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/MDX/ + ../LND/ Academic Co-ordinator, Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Bodimeade one-name study: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/Bodimeade/ My genealogy: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/

Hi to members Dick Eastman has an item about a new FREE piece of software called Genscriber that helps with transcribing old documents. http://blog.eogn.com/2014/12/16/genscriber-a-free-transcription-tool-for-genealogy-research/ The above link will take you to a page describing the software, and on that page there are two links to follow. One to download the programme and the other of videos showing its use. I haven't actually used it but thought it may be of interest to members. Rennison Rennison's List on http://www.upperdalesfhg.org.uk/rennisons.htm The Vayro Ancestry on http://www.vayro.name Vayro Database on http://vayro.tribalpages.com Vayro Guild of One-Name Studies Profile http://one-name.org/name_profile/vayro/ http://www.rennisonprimarydesigntechnology.info Searching for VAYRO, VARO, VARAH and variations worldwide

Can anyone help me with a transcription of the hand written parts of the Indenture for Thomas Sennett in 1698? The image is on Ancestry: London, England, Freedom of the City Admission Papers, 1681-1925 for Thomas Sennitt - link is http://tinyurl.com/n83rrth The bits I'm most interested in are the gaps in the following partial transcription "This Indenture Witnesseth, That Thomas Sennett the sonne of John..... of.... .... in the County of ....(Middx?) Yeoman, hath put himself Apprentice to .. .. .. of ..... and patternmaker if London" Thanks Corinne Curtis (Sennett ONS)

Corinne Curtis <corinneinorkney@gmail.com> said: > I'd also like to be able to submit material to indexes on other > surnames that may not be registered, and I'm not sure if this is > allowed? In the case of the Guild Marriage Index, it is allowed. If the surnames are not registered, the entries appear both ways round and so are fully searchable. > I also wonder whether the search facility that fails to show up > references submitted in your study name is now outmoded? Not being able to search the first surname (the registered one) is to stop someone else "stealing" all your work, which was a major worry for some when the GMI was first proposed. I don't think that principle is likely to change: indeed, it's been adopted for the Worldwide index. Peter Alefounder.

On 17 December 2014 at 11:19, Jimmy Isard <jim.isard@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Julie > It goes like that sometimes, you get lots in one edition and then nothing > for a couple of edition > Well done keep up the good work > > Merry Christmas to you and your family Hi Jim, It does doesn't it! Just 27 papers to go and my desk is clear of newspapers at least! - although I have just realised that the desk is actually made of wood not paper! Merry Christmas to you and yours Jim, Best wishes Julie Goucher Guild Member 3925 Orlando & Worship ONS Regional Rep ~ South Devon

Hi Julie It goes like that sometimes, you get lots in one edition and then nothing for a couple of edition Well done keep up the good work Merry Christmas to you and your family Jim -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Julie Goucher via Sent: 17 December 2014 10:08 To: GOONS Subject: [G] Guild News Watch This morning I have just extracted several items for fellow Guild members. >From this week's paper was: 2 obituaries 1 in memory of 1 Christmas announcement 1 legal notice 1 planning application At least three of those members did not have a profile page associated with their study. Five of those were for registered names and one for a surname interest. Not bad going for a paper with only 32 pages! Regards Julie Goucher Guild Member 3925 Orlando & Worship ONS Regional Rep ~ South Devon _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As several members will know they often receive a bundle of newspaper cuttings from me around this time of the year. My apologies that as I am away house-sitting until mid-Jan and the said cuttings are at home, there will be a delay in delivery this year! Also I have not had time this year due to pressure of work (the real sort earning money to pay the bills) to visit the B'ham Library so there are no forthcoming BMD updates for those I usually supply them to - you know who you are - and I still have the books for you Karen! I do hope to get there soon.... Kind regards Polly

Hi All I helped a friend to move earlier this week and took away several boxes of books that she did not want. Amongst them are the following: The Way We Went - Streets in nineteenth century Ipswich by Muriel Clegg (1989) Other Days in Witnesham A Suffolk Village (1985) A Century of Service - The County Councils of Suffolk 1889-1989 (1989) Stradbroke - Scenes from village history by Peter Rose (with notes about the ROSE family there) (1992) The Spoil of Melford Chuch - The Reformation in a Suffolk Parish by David Dymond & Clive Paine (1992) All are paperbook A4 format and Published by Salient Press, the Arts & Libraries Department of Suffolk County Council and I'll be happy to post them to anyone who would like them in return for stamps to cover the cost of postage. Hope that they're of interest to someone! Kind regards Polly

This morning I have just extracted several items for fellow Guild members. From this week's paper was: 2 obituaries 1 in memory of 1 Christmas announcement 1 legal notice 1 planning application At least three of those members did not have a profile page associated with their study. Five of those were for registered names and one for a surname interest. Not bad going for a paper with only 32 pages! Regards Julie Goucher Guild Member 3925 Orlando & Worship ONS Regional Rep ~ South Devon

Hi Ken, Snag with that lot is it is only available through Amazon.co.uk and not available through Amazon.com, just tried and got told, well got the following message "the Kindle Store on Amazon.co.uk is for UK customers only. To shop for titles available for your country, please visit Amazon.com. " Regards, David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the "Grimason" surname World Wide. A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS): 6138 formally 2962 The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some. On 17/12/2014 7:45 a.m., Ken Toll via wrote: > Just did my regular search of Amazon (UK) for free Kindle books. > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-text&field-keywords=genealogy > > (all on one line) > > Besides: > > Guide to DNA Testing: How to Identify Ancestors, Confirm > Relationships, and Measure Ethnic Ancestry through DNA... > > > There was: > > Genealogy: Teach Me Everything I Need To Know About Genealogy In 30 Minutes > > > and: > > DNA: Family History Genealogy and Ancestry Research Through DNA Testing > > > Not sure if they are any good (yet) but for free, you can't complain. > > Note that you don't need a Kindle to read the books. I use the free > program "Mr's Kindle for PC3". > That, and other free programs for Android & Mac, etc, are available from: > http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html/ref=sv_kinc_4?ie=UTF8&docId=1000425503 > > HTH, > > Ken > _____________________________________________ >

Hi, The point about bragging rights of what has been put in versus what is available would be more of an indicator of how big the study actual is. In my case the result of the Marriage Index 1837-1911 is 2 which says in other words says tiny and hardly any work done so go elsewhere. Marie please do not growl currently I only am getting one day off from work here and there so busy doing chores and sleeping. Yep I need to do up a spreadsheet of what I have however it is a case of what needs to be done first. I may yet tweak a webpage or two or three and send those to you as it will require less work as most of it is already done as you will see by visiting http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~grimason/pg41.htm this lot is for England and Wales only however there is a similar page for Scotland and another again for Ireland as well. Regards, David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the "Grimason" surname World Wide. A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS): 6138 formally 2962 The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some On 17/12/2014 1:46 a.m., Marie Byatt via wrote: > You bring up an interesting question/point. WHen the index results were all behind the paywall - Study owners really only wanted to see 'new' results - ones they didn't have- so searching on just spouses made sense. ANd it still does for members. I don't want to sift through all the marriages I have submitted to find the four or five 'new' ones. > > BUt now that the number of returns is in front of the paywall, it makes sense for members to want the 'braggin rights' that indicate how big their study is. Remember that number is only for that spelling of your study name the numbers change for different variants. Try a few different names and see what happens. Names like Jones ( which is not a study) now show up with results where before all you got was - there is no study for that name- . The searcher still gets that message but to it is added that our studies do have some information on that name. I think this is good - encouraging - showing the Guild has very diverse information. > > Some ideas for solutions > > 1. IF you want people to know the size of your study - ***PUT the number on the profile page yourself*** - You know best what that number is. You control it and as your study grows - change the number. > > 2. Number of submissions to indexes - this is a bit different and really may not be indicative of your study size - I know one individual submitted a list of 65K to the Worldwide index but only 5K were complete enough to be included. So including it on the public display may not be a good idea. Again it may be better for one to put the number on from their own count ------- Study size 140K, number of marriages 50K > > Really those numbers at the bottom of your profile page do not reflect your study - they show other resources that the GUild has that include the name. Perhaps they should be headed - "More resources" afterall the searcher has already found your page and the bona fide expert. > > But it is helpful for members to know how many submissions they have made to an index - so asking ANNe - at least as far as the WWM goes - could a member when signed in get a count of how many submissions had been made by their member number? > > 3. Finally, going way out on a limb, perhaps it would be an idea to allow the results of a search to be available to the general public - that is outside the paywall. I would suggest the WWM and the personal archives for this. The first because I have made sure that all the contributors to this are willing to share information if contacted, the second because in setting up a personal archives, one indicates the degree of privacy desired - so only those that said 'public' would be available. > > > > > Marie (GOONS 5318) > > > Bringing the world together one surname at a time. > 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com > 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' > http://cranberry.tribalpages.com > Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ > 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Corinne Curtis via <goons@rootsweb.com> > To: goons@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:19 AM > Subject: [G] profile page references to Index records > > > I really like the link to the numbers of records held in Guild indexes > that has now appeared on our profile pages. However, as these pages > are public pages, I wonder if it would be possible to have a further > listing: "number of Sennett references submitted to Guild indexes by > the Sennett study". Right now, the information is only really useful > to me in showing how many other studies have a crossover with mine, > and I think it may give a false impression to the public that my study > is very limited if a viewer thinks there are only the 14 references > that it currently shows. > > I also wonder whether the search facility that fails > to show up > references submitted in your study name is now outmoded? It would be > great to be able to do both types of searches. I've completely lost > track of what I have submitted, and while I know I could ask for a > listing, that just makes it that one step more difficult to keep an > eye on my submissions. I'd also like to be able to submit material to > indexes on other surnames that may not be registered, and I'm not sure > if this is allowed? > > Is it just me, or do others think this way? > > Corinne Curtis #5579 (Sennett ONS) > _____________________________________________ >

Hi One-namers When Charles Henry LAWS married Jane Herbert BOND at St.James Lambeth SRY on 17 Dec 1883 his elder brothers name James Walter LAWS appears where the father's name should be, the father James Snoad Laws having died three years before. Not come across this before, has anyone else? John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History http://lawsfamilyregister.tribalpages.com http://lawsandlawes.blogspot.com

Hi David The easiest way is to just change Ken's URL from .co.uk to .com http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st_price-asc-rank?keywords=genealogy&qid=1418 763742&rh=n%3A133140011%2Ck%3Agenealogy&sort=price-asc-rank I have also put them as Price: Low to High to make it easier for you. Take care Maria 6393 Belcher, Youle and Los -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sherlock Holmes via Sent: 16 December 2014 20:34 To: Ken Toll; goons@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G] Another couple of Free Genealogy e-books Hi Ken, Snag with that lot is it is only available through Amazon.co.uk and not available through Amazon.com, just tried and got told, well got the following message "the Kindle Store on Amazon.co.uk is for UK customers only. To shop for titles available for your country, please visit Amazon.com. " Regards, David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the "Grimason" surname World Wide. A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS): 6138 formally 2962 The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some. On 17/12/2014 7:45 a.m., Ken Toll via wrote: > Just did my regular search of Amazon (UK) for free Kindle books. > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Ddigital- > text&field-keywords=genealogy > > (all on one line) > > Besides: > > Guide to DNA Testing: How to Identify Ancestors, Confirm > Relationships, and Measure Ethnic Ancestry through DNA... > > > There was: > > Genealogy: Teach Me Everything I Need To Know About Genealogy In 30 > Minutes > > > and: > > DNA: Family History Genealogy and Ancestry Research Through DNA > Testing > > > Not sure if they are any good (yet) but for free, you can't complain. > > Note that you don't need a Kindle to read the books. I use the free > program "Mr's Kindle for PC3". > That, and other free programs for Android & Mac, etc, are available from: > http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html/ref=sv_kinc_4?ie=UTF8&docId=10 > 00425503 > > HTH, > > Ken > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi to all Following my posting on Thomas H Vayro, and Percy J T Vayro a few days ago, requesting a little help from members. Thomas was supposedly born in Belper, Derbyshire in 1890 but is now thought to be born in West Tanfield, North Yorkshire. I would simply like to formally thank those members who have gone out of their way to help. The response has been incredible, and I now have masses of material to sift, analyse and record data from. I now have accurate info from several Census returns including Thomas H born 1890 to John Vayro and Martha Mary Rose Vayro on the 1891 Census, on the 1901 C he is at East Harlsley near Northallerton with parents, and on the 1911 C is shown as a groom at Willoughby House, near Rugby Warwickshire. So the info from the family that he was born in Belper is now thought to be incorrect, and Willoughby House is still some distance from Belper Derbyshire. But he did settle in Belper, may have been there for training for WW1, met his future wife, and married her in 1914. I also now have a couple of newspaper cutting extractions from members for an engagement for Norman V, T H's son and info on Percy J T Vayro who received an MBE. And info on more recent B and M records for some other members of the Belper Vayros. I have thanked each member individually, but want to simply express my thanks more formally. Yet again members have come up trumps at very short notice. I feel I have made very rapid progress, and will now spend some time tabulating it all to report back to the two contacts I made through Facebook. What is interesting is that the John and Martha on the 1891 Census are relatives of another Percy Vayro, the farmer of four generations at Clifton Castle estates, Uredale. So I can now tie these two contacts into my own ancestry, with another 5 generations before John and Martha making it 6 before Thomas Henry Vayro. Thanks for your help, much appreciated Rennison through Facebook Just a little note to record my thanks Rennison's List on http://www.upperdalesfhg.org.uk/rennisons.htm The Vayro Ancestry on http://www.vayro.name Vayro Database on http://vayro.tribalpages.com Vayro Guild of One-Name Studies Profile http://one-name.org/name_profile/vayro/ http://www.rennisonprimarydesigntechnology.info Searching for VAYRO, VARO, VARAH and variations worldwide

Just did my regular search of Amazon (UK) for free Kindle books. http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-text&field-keywords=genealogy (all on one line) Besides: Guide to DNA Testing: How to Identify Ancestors, Confirm Relationships, and Measure Ethnic Ancestry through DNA... There was: Genealogy: Teach Me Everything I Need To Know About Genealogy In 30 Minutes and: DNA: Family History Genealogy and Ancestry Research Through DNA Testing Not sure if they are any good (yet) but for free, you can't complain. Note that you don't need a Kindle to read the books. I use the free program "Mr's Kindle for PC3". That, and other free programs for Android & Mac, etc, are available from: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html/ref=sv_kinc_4?ie=UTF8&docId=1000425503 HTH, Ken