Hi again Mike, Having read your initial rootsweb message more carefully, I have tried logging in to the further details without success using either my old or new password. Best, John John Plant <dr.j.s.plant@gmail.com> wrote: >Hi Mike, > >As an early adopter of an ONS website ( http://www.plant-fhg.org.uk/ ), I edit my raw HTML files  using a Linux editor (called joe). Will this be a problem? Presumaby it is simply a matter of uploading the raw HTML, JPG, etc files (with a very simple folder structure). Any simple text editor could then be used for subsequent editing. Wouldn't it seem a shame to tie the system to only Wordpress (if that is what you are implying)? > >Best, > >John > > >-- > >Dr John S Plant >http://www.plant-fhg.org.uk/jsp.html >

Hi Mike, As an early adopter of an ONS website ( http://www.plant-fhg.org.uk/ ), I edit my raw HTML files using a Linux editor (called joe). Will this be a problem? Presumaby it is simply a matter of uploading the raw HTML, JPG, etc files (with a very simple folder structure). Any simple text editor could then be used for subsequent editing. Wouldn't it seem a shame to tie the system to only Wordpress (if that is what you are implying)? Best, John -- Dr John S Plant http://www.plant-fhg.org.uk/jsp.html

Happy New Year everyone! I hope all Guild members have had an enjpoyable Christmas. You may remember an idea that was discussed in this Forum last July under the subject header "Preserving your one-name study." This is now developing into a viable project called the Members' Websites Project. The Project Team believes that it is a ground-breaking project for the Guild and goes to the heart of our constitutional objectives "to advance the education of the public in one-name studies..." and "to promote the preservation and publication of the resultant data, and to maximize its accessibility to interested members of the public." The Project will allow participants, while they remain members of the Guild, to maintain and edit their one-name study websites as if they were on a normal web hosting facility. After a participating member has died or ceased to be a member of the Guild their website will continue indefinitely as a publicly accessible website. After approval in principle in September, the Guild Committee gave its full support for the team's plans in November. Proof of concept has been carried out for a number of different types of web site from simple free-standing web pages to those using modern genealogy software like TNG (The Next Generation). We are now looking for members who have one-name study websites using online software like WordPress or MediaWiki who would be willing to join the pilot project. If you can help with this, please contact the Project Team Leader, Mike Spathaky at <members-websites@one-name.org> as soon as possible. Later this year, when the current pilot has been completed and the infrastructure thoroughly tested, the Members' Websites team will invite Guild members to join a Trial Project so that they may create a website or copy an existing site to the new facility. The team will offer guidance through the setting-up phase. For further details please see the Project website at http://www.one-name.net. Best Wishes, Mike Spathaky (Team Leader) W Paul Featherstone Jim Benedict Christopher Gray Marie Byatt Debbie Kennett Paul Millington Members' Websites Project Team

I would second (or is that third) what Paul and Dan have said. Make sure that you explain that the tree is your best effort from the research that you have so far done, but that it may well be incorrect or incomplete (the latter is normally the norm!) and ask people to send you their corrections and updates - and you'll be surprised how many do! I put this disclaimer on all my trees: Whilst every care is taken the information contained in this tree is subject to further revision. Along with my email address and copyright notice. And they very often are revised, even now, often because of the information which is supplied by the descendants of females, but which is almost impossible to discover working from your ONS. But then of course how are you going to publish your trees? On my website mine are images of dropline trees drawn up in Excel, which makes them impossible to search online for individuals, except by sight. Also the information contained is minimal, and all from the public domain. However most people seem to readily understand the dropline format and write to me really excited when they find themselves on one of them! The most trouble I have is with "married out" females who get upset when I explain I cannot add their children to the tree! If you want to see an example, my own tree is here: www.rowberry.org/r5rpol.html Go for it! Polly

Me too! Robin border Sent from my iPhone > On 1 Jan 2015, at 17:38, Fíona Tipple via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > This is really exciting Mike. > > As someone with no website for my ONS, I’m eagerly awaiting the outcome of your trial. > > Fiona Tipple > — > 5538 - Duignan & variants >> On 1 Jan 2015, at 11:02, Mike Spathaky via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> Happy New Year everyone! >> >> >> Later this year, when the current pilot has been completed and the >> infrastructure thoroughly tested, the Members' Websites team will >> invite Guild members to join a Trial Project so that they may create >> a website or copy an existing site to the new facility. The team will >> offer guidance through the setting-up phase. For further details >> please see the Project website at http://www.one-name.net. >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Mike Spathaky (Team Leader) >> W Paul Featherstone >> Jim Benedict >> Christopher Gray >> Marie Byatt >> Debbie Kennett >> Paul Millington >> >> Members' Websites Project Team >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is really exciting Mike. As someone with no website for my ONS, I’m eagerly awaiting the outcome of your trial. Fiona Tipple — 5538 - Duignan & variants On 1 Jan 2015, at 11:02, Mike Spathaky via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Happy New Year everyone! > > > Later this year, when the current pilot has been completed and the > infrastructure thoroughly tested, the Members' Websites team will > invite Guild members to join a Trial Project so that they may create > a website or copy an existing site to the new facility. The team will > offer guidance through the setting-up phase. For further details > please see the Project website at http://www.one-name.net. > > Best Wishes, > > Mike Spathaky (Team Leader) > W Paul Featherstone > Jim Benedict > Christopher Gray > Marie Byatt > Debbie Kennett > Paul Millington > > Members' Websites Project Team > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm getting more and more hesitant about putting trees online because of fear of having relationships wrong in my reconstructed trees. Because I can't afford to be buying certificates, it makes it a bit difficult to confirm some relationships, although I usually work around trying to find multiple pieces of evidence before I link two people. I see my family tree database (legacy) as a "working" document - open to changes and testing hypotheses. My rationale for linking people is almost always documented in the notes field, but without going through every individual in a tree and checking notes, I have no way of knowing how much guess work there is in a tree - so I don't publish it, but just keep on working on finding and adding in new information that will help confirm links. The huge number of spelling and transcription differences in the surname, and large proportion of catholic families with a limited range of given names complicates it even more. I also have an enormous number of different and separate trees,as few of the ones with Irish emigrants as the earliest ancestor can be linked yet, and there are other apparently separate origins of the name. I did start putting a few small families onto wikitree as I thought that would allow collaboration as well as enforcing the requirement for referencing, but recently I haven't been impressed with what other people have been putting on wikitree - many of the same old unverified trees from dodgy GEDCOMS complete with errors. My nervousness about publishing is getting to the ridiculous point now, and I know I need to start putting trees online, but I'm not quite sure how to decide when a tree is good enough (i.e a high probability of relationships all being correct). Any suggestions? Corinne Curtis (Sennett/Sinnott, etc ONS, and 35,000 names in legacy database)

Hi Mike As one of the Guild members keen to see this progress being made, I cannot contribute at this stage because you specifically ask for " members who have one-name study websites using online software like WordPress or MediaWiki " Unfortunately I use neither of these, and did it the "hard way" using Incomedia Website X5 version 8 software to set up my main website. The tribal pages is a separate database of names and basic information. I am however looking forward to your advice following on from the trial period. Essentially if the whole set of images and data on my main website have to be revamped I am willing to do that. Though I hope it does not come to that. In the end it is the preservation of the material that is most important. Rennison Rennison's List on http://www.upperdalesfhg.org.uk/rennisons.htm The Vayro Ancestry on http://www.vayro.name Vayro Database on http://vayro.tribalpages.com Vayro Guild of One-Name Studies Profile http://one-name.org/name_profile/vayro/ http://www.rennisonprimarydesigntechnology.info Searching for VAYRO, VARO, VARAH and variations worldwide On Thursday, 1 January 2015, 11:07, Mike Spathaky via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > >Happy New Year everyone! > >I hope all Guild members have had an enjpoyable Christmas. > >You may remember an idea that was discussed in this Forum last July >under the subject header "Preserving your one-name study." This is >now developing into a viable project called the Members' Websites >Project. The Project Team believes that it is a ground-breaking >project for the Guild and goes to the heart of our constitutional >objectives "to advance the education of the public in one-name >studies..." and "to promote the preservation and publication of the >resultant data, and to maximize its accessibility to interested >members of the public." > >The Project will allow participants, while they remain members of the >Guild, to maintain and edit their one-name study websites as if they >were on a normal web hosting facility. After a participating member >has died or ceased to be a member of the Guild their website will >continue indefinitely as a publicly accessible website. > >After approval in principle in September, the Guild Committee gave >its full support for the team's plans in November. Proof of concept >has been carried out for a number of different types of web site from >simple free-standing web pages to those using modern genealogy >software like TNG (The Next Generation). We are now looking for >members who have one-name study websites using online software like >WordPress or MediaWiki who would be willing to join the pilot >project. If you can help with this, please contact the Project Team >Leader, Mike Spathaky at <members-websites@one-name.org> as soon as possible. > >Later this year, when the current pilot has been completed and the >infrastructure thoroughly tested, the Members' Websites team will >invite Guild members to join a Trial Project so that they may create >a website or copy an existing site to the new facility. The team will >offer guidance through the setting-up phase. For further details >please see the Project website at http://www.one-name.net. > >Best Wishes, > >Mike Spathaky (Team Leader) >W Paul Featherstone >Jim Benedict >Christopher Gray >Marie Byatt >Debbie Kennett >Paul Millington > >Members' Websites Project Team > >_____________________________________________ > >RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Jo, Re Catholic parish registers post-1896, do you have contact details for a body that might be able to help? Fiona — 5538 - Duignan On 1 Jan 2015, at 13:29, Jo Fitz-Henry via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Yesterday I sent out the last batch of Anglican marriages from the > Nottingham marriage challenge. > > I have tried to send results to 2 people who are no longer GOONS. If > anyone has a working email address for Margaret Draper or Anita Loveday, > would they please email me off list. > > There were only 6 marriages which we couldn't transcribe as the > offending church (St Judes, Mapperley - my local!) hasn't deposited > their registers, and they are only filmed to 1900. > > The Non-conformist registers are being transcribed by the Notts Family > History Society. These are mainly Methodists and Baptists. The Roman > Catholic registers are only filmed up to 1896, and are not available > after this. > Nottingham does not have a large Jewish or Quaker community, but their > records are kept in London and are not available to us. > > The non-conformist records will be sent out in the new year once the > transcriptions are done. > > Jo > On behalf of the Nottingham MC team: Jo Fitz-Henry, Rowan Tanner, Phil > Hand and Sue Church > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> From: Nick Serpell via > Sent: 01 January 2015 13:50 > > I don’t know if anyone else has come across this site but, amongst a > host of information, it has a list of now disappeared London street > names together with their modern equivalents > > http://www.maps.thehunthouse.com/index.htm It's also worth looking at Victorian London A-Z Street Index from Gendocs. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hitch/gendocs/lon-str.html The Rayment Society lists of London streets with changed names http://www.rayment.info/general/road_name_changes/index.html Best wishes Andrew -- Andrew Millard - A.R.Millard@durham.ac.uk Chair, Trustees of Genuki: www.genuki.org.uk Maintainer, Genuki Middx + London: www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/MDX/ + ../LND/ Academic Co-ordinator, Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Bodimeade one-name study: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/Bodimeade/ My genealogy: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/

Hello Corinne. I understand your hesitation but would encourage you to go ahead. (Wish I had seen Daniel's contribution before I wrote all of the below. His few words sum up our approach perfectly!) Here's the rationale that we use at HowesFamilies.com. It works for us, though probably would not for many others. We came to it out of a desire to compile a large study and to do that we had to obtain the help of others. So we reconstruct families as our primary approach, put online what we have and ask others to comment. We use a "balance of probability" approach, albeit using the maximum amount of data we can find on each individual and quoting our sources as often as we can. Sometimes we aren't totally sure and in those cases we use a mixture of - joining individuals, but noting that we aren't completely sure and here's the rationale. - not joining two individuals but making notes on each saying that we think it's possible that they are the same person - omitting the person entirely because we can't yet figure out where they belong - buying a certificate, when we can afford it! - asking for the help of other researchers in our monthly emails in a small section called "Puzzle Corner" We encourage everyone to check our work. If we make a mistake (and we do, sometimes!) we correct it and leave a note saying something like "we previously thought this person was married to x . . ." or something like that so that people can see what we did and why. If someone helps us to correct a mistake, we publicly thank them on the individual's record. I don't measure it but would guess that well over 95% of comments we get are helpful and collaborative. A few start out negative (eg, why is my ancestor on your site when we aren't related? or even "you're wrong") and mostly turn around once they figure out what we are trying to do. One of the side benefits of this approach for us is that we have become the experts on our name and are seen to be so by others researching it; our site is quoted by others as the source for their research. It would have been impossible for us to attain that if we had waited until we were sure. Now we regularly hear from folks whom we've not interacted with for two or three years saying things like, "I found this extra bit of information . . .". Good luck whatever you decide to do. Paul On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Corinne Curtis via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I'm getting more and more hesitant about putting trees online because > of fear of having relationships wrong in my reconstructed trees. > Because I can't afford to be buying certificates, it makes it a bit > difficult to confirm some relationships, although I usually work > around trying to find multiple pieces of evidence before I link two > people. I see my family tree database (legacy) as a "working" > document - open to changes and testing hypotheses. My rationale for > linking people is almost always documented in the notes field, but > without going through every individual in a tree and checking notes, I > have no way of knowing how much guess work there is in a tree - so I > don't publish it, but just keep on working on finding and adding in > new information that will help confirm links. The huge number of > spelling and transcription differences in the surname, and large > proportion of catholic families with a limited range of given names > complicates it even more. I also have an enormous number of different > and separate trees,as few of the ones with Irish emigrants as the > earliest ancestor can be linked yet, and there are other apparently > separate origins of the name. > > I did start putting a few small families onto wikitree as I thought > that would allow collaboration as well as enforcing the requirement > for referencing, but recently I haven't been impressed with what other > people have been putting on wikitree - many of the same old unverified > trees from dodgy GEDCOMS complete with errors. > > My nervousness about publishing is getting to the ridiculous point > now, and I know I need to start putting trees online, but I'm not > quite sure how to decide when a tree is good enough (i.e a high > probability of relationships all being correct). Any suggestions? > > Corinne Curtis (Sennett/Sinnott, etc ONS, and 35,000 names in legacy database) > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Paul Howes www.howesfamilies.com Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide

That should have been Pat Draper, but I think I have this covered now. Thanks Jo On 01/01/2015 13:49, goons-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Yesterday I sent out the last batch of Anglican marriages from the > Nottingham marriage challenge. > > I have tried to send results to 2 people who are no longer GOONS. If > anyone has a working email address for Margaret Draper or Anita > Loveday, would they please email me off list. > > .... > > Jo > On behalf of the Nottingham MC team: Jo Fitz-Henry, Rowan Tanner, Phil > Hand and Sue Church

John, I still have an operational CP/M O/S computer at the office, a Xerox 820-II with dual floppy drives (eight inch!) and keyboard. In case North Korea decides to attack again, I still have the one computer that doesn't need anti-virus. Happy New Years to all, Jim Benedict Guild Representative for Western Canada Guild of One-Name Studies: Guild member #4794 Calgary, Alberta www.BenedictGenerations.com ======================================================== -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John P Laws via Sent: December 31, 2014 11:11 AM To: 'GOONS' Cc: 'Tessa Keough' Subject: [G] Genealogy Do over Hi One-Namers everywhere Hi Tessa, I read your blog with interest and a certain amount of amusement, and I might say, have printed it off to refer to later. I'm pretty sure you started your research a lot more recently than me, I started forth on this perilous journey way back in 1972, I had heard of computers indeed I had used them in a work environment, The first-one, being the one the RAF had, in those far off halcyon days was the size of a double-decked bus, and we pushed in miles of punched paper tape from teleprinter's at one's unit, perhaps half way across the world, and got out reams of gobbledy-gook, usually caused by an input clerk entering an O instead of an 0, it didn't like that at all. In 1977 I moved from a card index of 25 shoeboxes of 5"x3" cards, to an Amstrad 6128 which wrote in CPM/AMSDOS and used 3" diskettes each side hold 64k of data, I have since then owned about 7 or 8 machines with 4 or 5 operation systems, and a equal number of different software packages & am currently using RootsMagic 7, and just occasionally a record pops up with a reference number that identifies it as being from the early days. A genealogical Do-Over sounds terrifying but shouldn't be so, My recommendations are as follows:- Cut your own furrow, on no account add anyone else's GEDCOM to your master file, create a fresh file clearly identified as being awaiting verification. Cite your sources, I still find records with no indication as to where the information came from, I recommend 'Evidence Explained' by Elizabeth Shown Mills (ISBN: 9780806317816) obtainable from Amazon & Mastering Genealogical Proof by Thomas W Jones published by National Genealogical Society at 3108 Columbia Pike, Suite 300, Arlington, Virginia 22204-4370 USA www.ngsgenealogy.org. If you do nothing else use your software's problem checking for entries like where Mary Ann Laws had a child at 156 or the child that was born before it's parents birth or after their deaths. Let me take this opportunity to wish you all a very happy new year John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History http://lawsfamilyregister.tribalpages.com http://lawsandlawes.blogspot.com _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Put it all online. If it turns out to be wrong, fix it.

I don’t know if anyone else has come across this site but, amongst a host of information, it has a list of now disappeared London street names together with their modern equivalents http://www.maps.thehunthouse.com/index.htm I find it useful when adding Google map details to census locations on TNG. Quite often the street name in the census has disappeared in m modern times. Sometimes that was the result of bombing or demolition, but also there seems to have been a policy of changing street names, particularly when the London County Council was formed. Nick Nick Serpell The Serpell One Name Study www.serpell.org Member of The Society of Genealogists The Guild of One-Name Studies Cornwall Family History Society Researching Serpells across the world

Yesterday I sent out the last batch of Anglican marriages from the Nottingham marriage challenge. I have tried to send results to 2 people who are no longer GOONS. If anyone has a working email address for Margaret Draper or Anita Loveday, would they please email me off list. There were only 6 marriages which we couldn't transcribe as the offending church (St Judes, Mapperley - my local!) hasn't deposited their registers, and they are only filmed to 1900. The Non-conformist registers are being transcribed by the Notts Family History Society. These are mainly Methodists and Baptists. The Roman Catholic registers are only filmed up to 1896, and are not available after this. Nottingham does not have a large Jewish or Quaker community, but their records are kept in London and are not available to us. The non-conformist records will be sent out in the new year once the transcriptions are done. Jo On behalf of the Nottingham MC team: Jo Fitz-Henry, Rowan Tanner, Phil Hand and Sue Church

Am resending below from my own email address as it appears not to have arrived according to the Forum Archives. From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merryl Wells" <merryl.wells@one-name.org> To: "GOONS" <goons-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:58 PM Subject: Samuel Bawtrees research help > Hi, I spent sometime on Boxing Day searching Ancestry.co.uk for Samuel > Bawtrees, having about ten in my 'Essex' tree born before 1837 that are in > rather a mess. Unfortunately I 'sent' about 70 instances to my computer > but > when I later went to check them found they were mere tiny parts of each > entry! Completely useless. > > One entry I noticed was dated 1813 being the Separation of Samuel Bawtree > and Elizabeth Myall (they married 1792 Stepney) - I wasn't able to see the > original as it was on another > website, probably Essex Archives for which I'd have needed a > subscription - > but I am wondering that if a couple had a legal separation at that time > would > they have been able to marry again? as a bachelor? > > I also found two Samuel Bawtrees original wills, one dated 1815 and > another 1832 but I only took a couple of > notes from them thinking I'd look at the > downloaded originals later. Could someone manage to email me complete > copies of these please? > > > The one dated 1832 said his wife was Lydia and included four > children as Samuel, Henry, Mary Ann and Lydia plus an infant daughter not > yet named (she was called Ellen) - I had these children as belonging > to a Samuel Bawtree who married Ann Gordon 1794 at Hackney! I've not > found > any marriage of a > Samuel Bawtree to a Lydia and have these children as being born to a > Samuel > Bawtree who married Ann Gordon 1792 Stepney. Since, I've found Sarah Ann > bapt. 1803 to > Samuel & Ann at 'Aldgate', possibly died 1865? Newington R.D. > and Samuel Bawtry bapt. 2 May 1813 to Samuel & Lydia at Norwich, > Norfolk - everywhere else I've found him as Bawtree born Norwich, he > married > in Australia 1850, died Epping R.D. 1892 aged 79. > > No births/bapts. for Henry, Mary Ann, Lydia or Ellen to see who their > mother > was and all (except Mary Anne Sterky died 1848) married in Australia > around 1850. Lydia Holmes > and Ellen Tupholme probably died in Australia, but Samuel and Henry > returned and > called Colchester home. What I need are the parents of this Samuel > Bawtree b. c. 1760's and his marriage/s. > > One thing I was attempting to do on Ancestry was collect original > signatures on various 'Samuel Bawtree' documents to compare and allocate > :<( > > All help appreciated! > > From > Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. > E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org > GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. >

Am resending below from my Guild address as it does not appear to have arrived according to the Archives. From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merryl Wells" <merryl.wells@one-name.org> To: "GOONS" <goons-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:58 PM Subject: Samuel Bawtrees research help > Hi, I spent sometime on Boxing Day searching Ancestry.co.uk for Samuel > Bawtrees, having about ten in my 'Essex' tree born before 1837 that are in > rather a mess. Unfortunately I 'sent' about 70 instances to my computer > but > when I later went to check them found they were mere tiny parts of each > entry! Completely useless. > > One entry I noticed was dated 1813 being the Separation of Samuel Bawtree > and Elizabeth Myall (they married 1792 Stepney) - I wasn't able to see the > original as it was on another > website, probably Essex Archives for which I'd have needed a > subscription - > but I am wondering that if a couple had a legal separation at that time > would > they have been able to marry again? as a bachelor? > > I also found two Samuel Bawtrees original wills, one dated 1815 and > another 1832 but I only took a couple of > notes from them thinking I'd look at the > downloaded originals later. Could someone manage to email me complete > copies of these please? > > > The one dated 1832 said his wife was Lydia and included four > children as Samuel, Henry, Mary Ann and Lydia plus an infant daughter not > yet named (she was called Ellen) - I had these children as belonging > to a Samuel Bawtree who married Ann Gordon 1794 at Hackney! I've not > found > any marriage of a > Samuel Bawtree to a Lydia and have these children as being born to a > Samuel > Bawtree who married Ann Gordon 1792 Stepney. Since, I've found Sarah Ann > bapt. 1803 to > Samuel & Ann at 'Aldgate', possibly died 1865? Newington R.D. > and Samuel Bawtry bapt. 2 May 1813 to Samuel & Lydia at Norwich, > Norfolk - everywhere else I've found him as Bawtree born Norwich, he > married > in Australia 1850, died Epping R.D. 1892 aged 79. > > No births/bapts. for Henry, Mary Ann, Lydia or Ellen to see who their > mother > was and all (except Mary Anne Sterky died 1848) married in Australia > around 1850. Lydia Holmes > and Ellen Tupholme probably died in Australia, but Samuel and Henry > returned and > called Colchester home. What I need are the parents of this Samuel > Bawtree b. c. 1760's and his marriage/s. > > One thing I was attempting to do on Ancestry was collect original > signatures on various 'Samuel Bawtree' documents to compare and allocate > :<( > > All help appreciated! > > From > Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. > E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org > GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. >

Same here. I was not that impressed since hey are not scanning any records that are not already open to public access. Certainly they do not contain any police records or 'confidential' information. All of the records that I managed to access were on the American continent. Could be useful, but i think it could also be expensive. Peter Amsden ARPS ABIPP Photographer and writer. http://www.amsden.info On 31 Dec 2014, at 02:00, Christine Usher via wrote: > it asked me for my credit card details before i could blink > > On 12 December 2014 at 04:26, Jim Benedict via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> Are you searching for all living instances of your surname in the world? >> Are you looking for everyone in your postal/zip code? Do you want to plow >> through over 2 million family names and over 240 million living individuals? >> Especially if they live in: Canada, Bogota Columbia, New Delhi India, >> Macedonia, Romania, United Kingdom or the USA? Then I have just the search >> website for you. >> >> Not sure if it has been mentioned previously: http://www.locatefamily.com/ >> >> It is a bit uncanny. I was able to locate myself quickly by postal code, >> including my phone number, and also for everyone on my block. This was the >> Street search. If you do the Surname search, you also get (once you find >> it) your relative or yourself, full address, phone number, and map link. >> >> It gets downright scary, just how much information is out there. This seems >> to be better than the usual 411.com or the whitepages.com or similar >> searches. Cannot spot any advertising, no need for login, nor do you get >> only partial information. So, this is how the private dicks can locate your >> wayward spouse. >> >> The website states that there are 21 million people in 27 countries starting >> with "B" in the surname. Also, 11,634 names and 762,810 people starting >> with "Ben". So I must have 10,000+ Benedict's lurking somewhere in the >> lists. It is going to be a long, long night. >> >> Jim Benedict >> Guild Representative for Western Canada >> Guild of One-Name Studies: Guild member #4794 >> Calgary, Alberta >> www.BenedictGenerations.com >> ======================================================== >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One of the speakers at the next Guild seminar is unfortunately no longer available so there has been a minor revision to the original programme and full amended details are now on the website http://one-name.org/seminar_2015feb_medhealth.html Please be reminded that the official booking closing date is Sunday January 25th 2015 - why not make it your first New Years resolution to book for this seminar?! Happy New Year to all forum members! Alan R Moorhouse seminar-booking@one-name.org