Anthony Mingay has written an interesting article in JOONS about a gift made by Richard Minge to the Worshipful Company of Cordwainers, a City of London livery company, of which he was a member. Anthony should not be surprised that these simple bequests are still being made. Most, if not all, of the ancient livery companies in the City have historical bequests which they are still observing. The Company of which I am a liveryman, the Worshipful Company of Masons, which dates its known existence as far back as 1356, has the Joshua Marshall Bequest, which is still administered by our Charitable Trust. Joshua Marshall was Master Mason to Charles II and was Master of the Company in 1670. He died in 1678 and bequeathed to the Company the £200 debt owed to him by the Company. Since then the Company has paid £10 per year to "poor widows of members of the Company." Marshall was contractor for the stonework of the Monument on Fish Street Hill and for the re-building of Temple Bar among other things. Chris Radmore 3017

Hi Janet, Your caveat sounds about right for a number of families as such as there are bound to be links within some families that can not be confirmed beyond doubt, sometimes one has to run with limited information that is not conclusive. David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the "Grimason" surname World Wide. A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS): 6138 formally 2962 The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some. On 4/01/2015 5:51 a.m., JANETHESKI via wrote: > There is a distinct problem with my part of the HESKINS family tree, which > also affects most of the other members of the family. There are doubts as > to how the family arrived in an area of Gloucestershire close to the area > where there had been a definite family line, which petered out at about the > same time. There is an established Christian name that occurs in both parts > of the line either side of about 1715. > > There are trees on Ancestry that have no doubt as to the connection but I > would like more evidence. Should I publish the tree it would, as Colin > Stevenson suggests, require a caveat to the effect that the connection is the > best possible. There are no other possibilities that have been found. > Therefore it is highly likely to be correct....but I still have doubts. > > Happy New year, > > Janet Heskins [2281] > >

I have somewhat of the same quandry publishing in my blog trees for the Blake families. However, I have decided to do it in a limited way using the wills and available BMD/CMB information. When I can link larger branches together with proofs then I will do that otherwise it will just be linked families through wills. I feel that I need to start putting the information together that I have acquired. Injuring my back last summer has rather put me on the sidelines for nearly six months and made me aware that I really should do this in case I find that I can not keep up with genealogy in the future! Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp BA PLCGS Website: http://www.kipp-blake-families.ca/elizabethmain.htm Blog: http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/ Guild of One Name Studies #4600 (Blake, Pincombe) The Surname Society #1004 (Bedard, Dumoulin, Gregoire, Prevost, Blake, Pincombe, Knight, Rawlings, Cheatle, Butt, Buller, Taylor, Gray, Farmer, Lywood, Rew, Routledge, Welch, Coleman, Lambden, Arnold, Peck, Rowcliffe, Siderfin, Cobb, Beard) On 2015-01-03 11:33 AM, Colin Stevenson via wrote: > It depends on why you want to publish the tree. If you claim it is the > definitive family history you need to be very certain of your facts. At > the other end of the spectrum if it is published as a work in progress > with appropriate caveats then it is a useful research tool for you and > others. Personally I think there is more to gain from 'early ' > publication rather than striving for accuracy. I can see no harm from > publishing a speculative tree provided it is described as such. > > Colin Stevenson (Cavie & Monnington) > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Marcus, You are absolutely correct. Thanks for pointing out the error. I have just added a new user and as of now there are two usernames that work, Member and Members (both with the same pw as given previously). BTW the error was mine alone. I apologise for the fact that some members will have failed to access the site. Other members take note that the user name for access to the Members' Website Project website, as given in the home page of the Members' Room (http://one-name.org/members) should now work. Best Wishes, Mike Spathaky Team leader Members' Websites Project At 15:55 03/01/2015, laptop@strudwicke.com wrote: >Hi Mike, >I think the password for the project on the guild site is incorrect. >I dropped the last letter off, and it worked fine. >cheers >Marcus Strudwicke > >-----Original Message----- From: Mike Spathaky via >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 2:09 PM >To: goons@rootsweb.com >Subject: [G] The Members' Websites Project > >Hi Folks, > >Many thanks for all the supportive comments about the Members' >Websites Project! I have not had time to respond to your queries >because of a glitch with the Project website in the last 24 hours. > >The Chairman requested that the site be password-protected whcih I >did immediately. For some reason, at the same time so it must be >related, the whole website went down and I was unable to access even >the control panel to investigate what had happened. > >By this morning (Saturday AEDT) it was OK again and the password >protection is now working as intended. > >I cannot show the password here as postings here are accessible to >anyone via the archives but Anne Shankland has kindly posted it in >the Members' Room of the Guild's main website. So please go to >http://one-name.org/members and then access the Members' Websites >Project at http://one-name.net > >Best Wishes, > >Mike Spathaky. > >_____________________________________________ > >RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc >http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It depends on why you want to publish the tree. If you claim it is the definitive family history you need to be very certain of your facts. At the other end of the spectrum if it is published as a work in progress with appropriate caveats then it is a useful research tool for you and others. Personally I think there is more to gain from 'early ' publication rather than striving for accuracy. I can see no harm from publishing a speculative tree provided it is described as such. Colin Stevenson (Cavie & Monnington)

Hi Mike, I think the password for the project on the guild site is incorrect. I dropped the last letter off, and it worked fine. cheers Marcus Strudwicke -----Original Message----- From: Mike Spathaky via Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 2:09 PM To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] The Members' Websites Project Hi Folks, Many thanks for all the supportive comments about the Members' Websites Project! I have not had time to respond to your queries because of a glitch with the Project website in the last 24 hours. The Chairman requested that the site be password-protected whcih I did immediately. For some reason, at the same time so it must be related, the whole website went down and I was unable to access even the control panel to investigate what had happened. By this morning (Saturday AEDT) it was OK again and the password protection is now working as intended. I cannot show the password here as postings here are accessible to anyone via the archives but Anne Shankland has kindly posted it in the Members' Room of the Guild's main website. So please go to http://one-name.org/members and then access the Members' Websites Project at http://one-name.net Best Wishes, Mike Spathaky. _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Andrew Thanks, if all else fails that will be the only option. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: MILLARD A.R. via <goons@rootsweb.com> To: "'goons@rootsweb.com'" <goons@rootsweb.com> Cc: Sent: Friday, 2 January 2015, 22:11 Subject: Re: [G] Bolton marriage look-up - to pacify irate enquirer > From: Robert Fowler via > Sent: 02 January 2015 15:29 > > Can anyone look up the details for Charles Fowler who married Sarah > Harwood Dec 1893. GRO index entry is Fowler Charles Bolton 8c 529 The page range for Bolton in this quarter is 303-538, so this marriage is late on in the sequence and therefore likely to be non-conformist or registry office. The Guild Marriage Index confirms this showing 'Bolton RO/NC' for marriages on pages between 460 and 535. Probably the only option is to buy the certificate. Best wishes Andrew -- Andrew Millard - A.R.Millard@durham.ac.uk Chair, Trustees of Genuki: www.genuki.org.uk Maintainer, Genuki Middx + London: www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/MDX/ + ../LND/ Academic Co-ordinator, Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Bodimeade one-name study: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/Bodimeade/ My genealogy: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/ _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Short answer - the software won't do it for you. You still have to put the numbers or other Identifying marks on each record. As you know I use gedcom producing software. I can attach each PDF, .jpg, .doc etc to individuals in the data base as full documents. Depending on which gedcom producer you use, you can even store the documents in the file. I choose to keep the documents in folders of similar documents - marriage certificates, wills, portraits, letters, etc. ANd I don't use ID numbers as I mistype too often. INstead I base the filing on the full name and date. ANyone ( including me) looking into one of my folders knows exactly who the file refers to without needing to check the gedcom or program or an external list. However once the basics are done the system works beautifully. Each new record I find, I check first if the individual is in the database - if so - I file the record into the right folder and attach it to the individual and make notes along side it about anomalies. If it is about a new person - I create the individual, attach the the record and proceed to the next record. The more data I get and tie to people - the more I start seeing family lines developing into real history. Its fun. I just harvested nearly a thousand new German records and so far am running about 60 % already in my software. Some interesting things are happening. I love it when the data becomes dense enough to force conclusions. But the software won't do it - the computer sorts and matches very fast and well, but I have to approve or reject each instance and I have to enter the details into the database to start with. Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com ________________________________ From: Jim Benedict via <goons@rootsweb.com> To: goons@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2015 4:10 PM Subject: [G] Family Research in the USA - JOONs article by Ken Toll Ken Toll (member 1331) and his wife Jean (member 6183) wrote an interesting pair of articles in the latest journal. Ken, you collected hundreds, if not thousands of unindexed documents and photographs during your trips in 2013 to the northeastern USA and 2014 to Salt Lake City. Now, how the dickens are you going to organize them into a research project? As with you, I am trying to use TNG for a family tree application and research tool. My digital file cabinet has 4,000 files, all digital images of original Benedict paper documents. They need to be matched up to Benedict ancestors on the family trees. TNG allows for people ID numbers and family ID numbers, and I also am using a modified Henry descendant numbering system for the Benedict line. I also know that you plan to use TNG yourself. How does one design a document database that 'wires' into a family tree application for ONS research purposes? Jim Benedict Guild Representative for Western Canada Guild of One-Name Studies: Guild member #4794 Calgary, Alberta www.BenedictGenerations.com ======================================================== _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Folks, Many thanks for all the supportive comments about the Members' Websites Project! I have not had time to respond to your queries because of a glitch with the Project website in the last 24 hours. The Chairman requested that the site be password-protected whcih I did immediately. For some reason, at the same time so it must be related, the whole website went down and I was unable to access even the control panel to investigate what had happened. By this morning (Saturday AEDT) it was OK again and the password protection is now working as intended. I cannot show the password here as postings here are accessible to anyone via the archives but Anne Shankland has kindly posted it in the Members' Room of the Guild's main website. So please go to http://one-name.org/members and then access the Members' Websites Project at http://one-name.net Best Wishes, Mike Spathaky.

Ken Toll (member 1331) and his wife Jean (member 6183) wrote an interesting pair of articles in the latest journal. Ken, you collected hundreds, if not thousands of unindexed documents and photographs during your trips in 2013 to the northeastern USA and 2014 to Salt Lake City. Now, how the dickens are you going to organize them into a research project? As with you, I am trying to use TNG for a family tree application and research tool. My digital file cabinet has 4,000 files, all digital images of original Benedict paper documents. They need to be matched up to Benedict ancestors on the family trees. TNG allows for people ID numbers and family ID numbers, and I also am using a modified Henry descendant numbering system for the Benedict line. I also know that you plan to use TNG yourself. How does one design a document database that 'wires' into a family tree application for ONS research purposes? Jim Benedict Guild Representative for Western Canada Guild of One-Name Studies: Guild member #4794 Calgary, Alberta www.BenedictGenerations.com ========================================================

There is a distinct problem with my part of the HESKINS family tree, which also affects most of the other members of the family. There are doubts as to how the family arrived in an area of Gloucestershire close to the area where there had been a definite family line, which petered out at about the same time. There is an established Christian name that occurs in both parts of the line either side of about 1715. There are trees on Ancestry that have no doubt as to the connection but I would like more evidence. Should I publish the tree it would, as Colin Stevenson suggests, require a caveat to the effect that the connection is the best possible. There are no other possibilities that have been found. Therefore it is highly likely to be correct....but I still have doubts. Happy New year, Janet Heskins [2281]

This website http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk indicates that the marriage location was "Bolton Register Office or Registrar Attended". Thus you will probably need to buy the certificate. best Anne H. On 2.1.15 15:29, Robert Fowler wrote: > Hi > > Can anyone look up the details for Charles Fowler who married Sarah Harwood Dec 1893. > > I am going to struggle to find him since he died by 1900, leaving Sarah back at the Harwoods with son William Henry, who later went to Aussi. > > > My irate Australian enquirer is struggling to let go of the Charles she has "found" who I think is wrong. > > Many thanks, & happy new year from Atlantic City. > > Robert Fowler > 5464 >

> From: Robert Fowler via > Sent: 02 January 2015 15:29 > > Can anyone look up the details for Charles Fowler who married Sarah > Harwood Dec 1893. GRO index entry is Fowler Charles Bolton 8c 529 The page range for Bolton in this quarter is 303-538, so this marriage is late on in the sequence and therefore likely to be non-conformist or registry office. The Guild Marriage Index confirms this showing 'Bolton RO/NC' for marriages on pages between 460 and 535. Probably the only option is to buy the certificate. Best wishes Andrew -- Andrew Millard - A.R.Millard@durham.ac.uk Chair, Trustees of Genuki: www.genuki.org.uk Maintainer, Genuki Middx + London: www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/MDX/ + ../LND/ Academic Co-ordinator, Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Bodimeade one-name study: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/Bodimeade/ My genealogy: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/

have you not got any other details on them ie birth year etc On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Robert Fowler via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi > > Can anyone look up the details for Charles Fowler who married Sarah Harwood Dec 1893. > > I am going to struggle to find him since he died by 1900, leaving Sarah back at the Harwoods with son William Henry, who later went to Aussi. > > > My irate Australian enquirer is struggling to let go of the Charles she has "found" who I think is wrong. > > Many thanks, & happy new year from Atlantic City. > > Robert Fowler > 5464 > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Can anyone look up the details for Charles Fowler who married Sarah Harwood Dec 1893. I am going to struggle to find him since he died by 1900, leaving Sarah back at the Harwoods with son William Henry, who later went to Aussi. My irate Australian enquirer is struggling to let go of the Charles she has "found" who I think is wrong. Many thanks, & happy new year from Atlantic City. Robert Fowler 5464

Hi Mike, I use Wordpress (on my own site, not wordpress.com) and I add in Gramps for the tree data, and phpBB3 for a forum. I manage it all using dreamweaver. Happy to be involved in a trial if my setup would be suitable. cheers Marcus Strudwicke Strudwick One Name Study 5218 www.strudwicke.com Anything, Everything and Something Strudwick -----Original Message----- From: Mike Spathaky via Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 9:32 PM To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] The Members’ Websites Project Happy New Year everyone! I hope all Guild members have had an enjpoyable Christmas. You may remember an idea that was discussed in this Forum last July under the subject header "Preserving your one-name study." This is now developing into a viable project called the Members' Websites Project. The Project Team believes that it is a ground-breaking project for the Guild and goes to the heart of our constitutional objectives "to advance the education of the public in one-name studies..." and "to promote the preservation and publication of the resultant data, and to maximize its accessibility to interested members of the public." The Project will allow participants, while they remain members of the Guild, to maintain and edit their one-name study websites as if they were on a normal web hosting facility. After a participating member has died or ceased to be a member of the Guild their website will continue indefinitely as a publicly accessible website. After approval in principle in September, the Guild Committee gave its full support for the team's plans in November. Proof of concept has been carried out for a number of different types of web site from simple free-standing web pages to those using modern genealogy software like TNG (The Next Generation). We are now looking for members who have one-name study websites using online software like WordPress or MediaWiki who would be willing to join the pilot project. If you can help with this, please contact the Project Team Leader, Mike Spathaky at <members-websites@one-name.org> as soon as possible. Later this year, when the current pilot has been completed and the infrastructure thoroughly tested, the Members' Websites team will invite Guild members to join a Trial Project so that they may create a website or copy an existing site to the new facility. The team will offer guidance through the setting-up phase. For further details please see the Project website at http://www.one-name.net. Best Wishes, Mike Spathaky (Team Leader) W Paul Featherstone Jim Benedict Christopher Gray Marie Byatt Debbie Kennett Paul Millington Members' Websites Project Team _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The nominal roll for the 3rd reinforcements for the 14th Battalion AIF (WW1) http://wp.me/p3r30m-nKO Has appeared on the AUS-VIC list. It has a few GOONS names on it. Happy New Year Howard LAVER 3175

Paul, Thank you for the explicit clarification. Have I also misunderstood the situation for logging into the further details? John W Paul Featherstone <wpaulf@gmail.com> wrote: >John, >I think you have misunderstood Mike's E mail, we are catering for all >types of web sites, but at present we are looking for members who can >help us in our pilot with Word Press type sites. > >Paul >2627 >On 02/01/2015 09:14, John Plant via wrote: >> Hi Mike, >> >> As an early adopter of an ONS website ( http://www.plant-fhg.org.uk/ ), I >> edit my raw HTML files using a Linux editor (called joe). Will this be a >> problem? Presumaby it is simply a matter of uploading the raw HTML, JPG, >> etc files (with a very simple folder structure). Any simple text editor >> could then be used for subsequent editing. Wouldn't it seem a shame to tie >> the system to only Wordpress (if that is what you are implying)? >> >> Best, >> John >> >

John, I think you have misunderstood Mike's E mail, we are catering for all types of web sites, but at present we are looking for members who can help us in our pilot with Word Press type sites. Paul 2627 On 02/01/2015 09:14, John Plant via wrote: > Hi Mike, > > As an early adopter of an ONS website ( http://www.plant-fhg.org.uk/ ), I > edit my raw HTML files using a Linux editor (called joe). Will this be a > problem? Presumaby it is simply a matter of uploading the raw HTML, JPG, > etc files (with a very simple folder structure). Any simple text editor > could then be used for subsequent editing. Wouldn't it seem a shame to tie > the system to only Wordpress (if that is what you are implying)? > > Best, > John >

This is great news and a really positive step for members many of whom, like me, will be wondering what happens to all their hard work in years to come. I have my site on TNG and cannot recommend it too highly so look forward to what comes out of your trials Nick Nick Serpell The Serpell One Name Study www.serpell.org Member of The Society of Genealogists The Guild of One-Name Studies Cornwall Family History Society Researching Serpells across the world > On 1 Jan 2015, at 19:29, Robin Border via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Me too! > Robin border > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 1 Jan 2015, at 17:38, Fíona Tipple via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> This is really exciting Mike. >> >> As someone with no website for my ONS, I’m eagerly awaiting the outcome of your trial. >> >> Fiona Tipple >> — >> 5538 - Duignan & variants >>> On 1 Jan 2015, at 11:02, Mike Spathaky via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>> Happy New Year everyone! >>> >>> >>> Later this year, when the current pilot has been completed and the >>> infrastructure thoroughly tested, the Members' Websites team will >>> invite Guild members to join a Trial Project so that they may create >>> a website or copy an existing site to the new facility. The team will >>> offer guidance through the setting-up phase. For further details >>> please see the Project website at http://www.one-name.net. >>> >>> Best Wishes, >>> >>> Mike Spathaky (Team Leader) >>> W Paul Featherstone >>> Jim Benedict >>> Christopher Gray >>> Marie Byatt >>> Debbie Kennett >>> Paul Millington >>> >>> Members' Websites Project Team >>> >>> _____________________________________________ >>> >>> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message