Colin - while I agree with your view that early publication is beneficial - I suggest that, in doing so, one accepts that many viewers will treat it as "rock solid" no matter how many caveats one places around it. Personally I place my trees online as soon as I have them. Many, many of the assumptions I make - for example that if a person is named as a son in a census that he is a son - are not validated. I leave it to the viewer to decide on the validity based on seeing the sources and drawing their own conclusions. I have seen too many on-line trees with errors that are obvious when one looks at the sources. While I would hope that most of mine pass that initial scrutiny, I am sure that many of the assumptions would be disproved if only there were a few more documents out there giving independent views of what reality actually was. One benefit of publishing is to enable people to challenge one's findings. Mind you, no one has challenged anything I've put on line over the last twenty years - which is very disappointing. Chris -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stevenson via Sent: 03 January 2015 16:34 To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G] when is a tree good enough to publish? It depends on why you want to publish the tree. If you claim it is the definitive family history you need to be very certain of your facts. At the other end of the spectrum if it is published as a work in progress with appropriate caveats then it is a useful research tool for you and others. Personally I think there is more to gain from 'early ' publication rather than striving for accuracy. I can see no harm from publishing a speculative tree provided it is described as such. Colin Stevenson (Cavie & Monnington) _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everyone, Here is the latest message received via the Federation. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The refurbished Explore York Library and Archive (https://www.exploreyork.org.uk) opens today after a £2 million pound revamp that now provides for a state-of-the-art store and reading room for the archives, and refurbished Local History library and Family History centre. For the full story visit http://m.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11701623.Explore_York_Library_and_Archive_reopens_following___2m_revamp/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Happy New Year to all, Peter Copsey Your Fed Rep

Hi I spotted this item on Dick Eastman's genealogical pages, and thought it was worth passing on the link. It gives a list of current and past Genealogy websites, and just who actually owns them today. As we all know some reliable sites have disappeared or been bought by or subsumed into bigger websites. The shark eating the sprats so to speak. Not always for the good of the researcher. The link is as follows:- http://www.gouldgenealogy.com/2014/12/who-owns-what-in-the-genealogy-world It appears to be an Australian Website with snippets of news and announcements on Genealogy and General History. It comes complete with a blog. Rennison Rennison's List on http://www.upperdalesfhg.org.uk/rennisons.htm The Vayro Ancestry on http://www.vayro.name Vayro Database on http://vayro.tribalpages.com Vayro Guild of One-Name Studies Profile http://one-name.org/name_profile/vayro/ http://www.rennisonprimarydesigntechnology.info Searching for VAYRO, VARO, VARAH and variations worldwide

Dear all I hear that the following records are now available on Ancestry - they may be part of the old Ancestry24 records which were bought up by Ancestry some months ago after the S. African Ancestry24 site was closed down. South Africa, Voter Indexes, 1719-1996 <http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=60671> <http://search.ancestry.com/search/rectype/default.aspx?rt=34> South Africa, Birth and Baptism Records, 1700s-1900s <http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=60659> Geoff 5389 -- Geoff Chew geoffchew1@gmail.com

Marie, Would I be correct in assuming that your lineage numbers are allocated 'as required' (i.e the next person created gets the next number) rather than by their position in the tree? Your "lineage" system sound very much like my "family origin" - I named families by the place where they appear to originate. I'm having to vary this a little for the USA as I have been unable to determine the place where some families originated (as opposed to 'sailed from') - so I'm currently using the first place where they are known to have settled. I do all my merges & splitting in Family Historian, where I have much greater control over the process. They don't get uploaded to TNG until they are reasonably stable. Currently I don't attach anything to the individuals/trees - I embed sufficient information to find the information at the source AND on my PC. Clearly there is no 'correct' way and each of us has to find a system that works for them and their study. Kind Regards, Ken On 6 January 2015 at 02:24, Marie Byatt <morris12m@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > From my own limited experience - and maybe because I'm on the Western side of the Atlantic or because many Peplers/lows never roosted for very long - I tried grouping files by place and it just didn't work for anything smaller than a full country because the vast majority of my study had at least three and in some cases eight different places. So When building a person I was having to visit too many different folders. > Now I identify by lineage numbers. Each descendent in a lineage gets the number added to their name and I have a family folder to hold certificates, documents, images etc. If the lineage is vast enough (say over about 200 or so), I have sub folders in the folder for the different event types. > Same with numbering - I tried a structured numbering system but I do so many merges that the renumbering became more of a nuisance than an help. This is one of the problems I find with TNG - it wants to identify everything by an ID number and when I merge three people together - two numbers get lost and I don't want to have to chase their attachments everytime I do a merge. > > Marie (GOONS 5318) > > > Bringing the world together one surname at a time. > 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com > 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com > Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ > 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com > > > ________________________________ > From: Ken Toll via <goons@rootsweb.com> > To: Goons mailing list <goons@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 3:01 PM > Subject: Re: [G] Family Research in the USA - JOONs article by Ken Toll > > > ...Resending as previously posted in Rich Text... > > Jim, I described my basic filing method in my JOONS article in Oct > 2008, http://one-name.org/members/journal/vol9-12.pdf pp 10-12. > > Re-reading the article, little has changed, except that I now have my > own fledgling TNG site at www.Toll-FamilyHistory.org/genealogy. > > The material I collected was initially filed (on my PC) under the > repository where it was found. For each repository, I have been > (slowly) > > sorting the material by "Family Location", enabling me to then bring > material together for each family. For the Schenectady (NY) > > TOLLs I was able to add material into my existing tree, as it is an > old and well documented US family. For other families I have yet > > to transfer much of the information into Trees. > > I intend to create databases for each State/Province (as I already > have for several UK Counties & Aus States) extracting the core > genealogical data, its source, and where the image/research is filed. > When Jean started the VANT ONS I suggested she also added a 'Tree' > reference to each piece of research data. this has worked so well that > I now have to go back and re-document mine :-( > Very happy to share the format(s) if of interest. > > I know size isn't everything... > ...but I've just checked my ONS and it comprises 23,342 Files in 2,174 > Folders occupying almost 30GB! It has clearly grown since the 7GB in > 2008. This is almost certainly due to mainly using a Digital Camera > (rather than pencil & paper) to record research. > > As a parallel project, I am tackling the US& Canada States & Provinces > one at a time. It's not a perfect solution as some miscreants keep > crossing borders! However, I have about 10 Wisconsin TOLL families > back to their migrant ancestors and am currently doing the same for > Illinios. As time permits, I will be extracting data from my US Trips > and adding it to the relevant Family Trees. > > I actually use Family Historian (FH, v6) as my research tool and > currently only use TNG (v9) for on-line backup, as a web presence, and > for sharing. I shall, of course, be investigating TNG (v10) as a > research tool as time permits. > > I suspect what the software (FH or TNG) is capable of doing will > depend very much on one's programming skills, as I believe both can > run 'scripts'. I agree with Marie that the software won't (or > shouldn't) do everything for you, but it could be capable of > generating 'hints' and adding the link if you concur. > > Sorry it is a rather rambling reply, but it is a rather rambling hobby... > > Ken > Joint RR for East & West Sussex > > On 3 January 2015 at 21:10, Jim Benedict via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> Ken Toll (member 1331) and his wife Jean (member 6183) wrote an interesting >> pair of articles in the latest journal. >> >> Ken, you collected hundreds, if not thousands of unindexed documents and >> photographs during your trips in 2013 to the northeastern USA and 2014 to >> Salt Lake City. Now, how the dickens are you going to organize them into a >> research project? As with you, I am trying to use TNG for a family tree >> application and research tool. My digital file cabinet has 4,000 files, all >> digital images of original Benedict paper documents. They need to be >> matched up to Benedict ancestors on the family trees. TNG allows for people >> ID numbers and family ID numbers, and I also am using a modified Henry >> descendant numbering system for the Benedict line. >> >> I also know that you plan to use TNG yourself. How does one design a >> document database that 'wires' into a family tree application for ONS >> research purposes? >> >> Jim Benedict >> Guild Representative for Western Canada >> Guild of One-Name Studies: Guild member #4794 >> Calgary, Alberta >> www.BenedictGenerations.com >> ======================================================== >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Shirley, Oxford archives would do this for you at a fee? I have used such a chargeable service from other archives. Ron Ferguson GOONS #5307 Surely Sent from my Xperia™ smartphone SHIRLEY POWER via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >Is there anyone near to Oxford please who could visit the archives and photocopy me some marriage bonds. Strictly on a business footing I would pay travel time and photocopying costs. Living in the East Riding is too far to travel at this time of year, > >Shirley Power >GRIMMETT >6171 > _____________________________________________ > >RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

All my trees are on line except one I have done where I have no relation, except totally speculative to a famous person ( Emily Davison, suffragette) I make no claims of accuracy for them, but I have attached all the citations I have to enable other people to evaluate them, and they are my best efforts. I use ancestry, and in deciding whether to add information from other people's trees I look at how tidy they are, eg no multiple automatically added families with our review, if they have children born ages before their apparent parents or if they have ancestry back before 1600ish I ignore everything in them, if they have photos of relatives closely related to the home person, I tend to believe their close family, and the more citations the better Chris Usher, researching Gilhome - please get in touch if you have ever even met someone with this surname! On Sunday, 4 January 2015, Elizabeth Kipp via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I have somewhat of the same quandry publishing in my blog trees for the > Blake families. However, I have decided to do it in a limited way using > the wills and available BMD/CMB information. When I can link larger > branches together with proofs then I will do that otherwise it will just > be linked families through wills. I feel that I need to start putting > the information together that I have acquired. Injuring my back last > summer has rather put me on the sidelines for nearly six months and made > me aware that I really should do this in case I find that I can not keep > up with genealogy in the future! > > Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp BA PLCGS > Website: http://www.kipp-blake-families.ca/elizabethmain.htm > Blog: http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/ > Guild of One Name Studies #4600 (Blake, Pincombe) > The Surname Society #1004 (Bedard, Dumoulin, Gregoire, Prevost, Blake, > Pincombe, Knight, Rawlings, Cheatle, Butt, Buller, Taylor, Gray, Farmer, > Lywood, Rew, Routledge, Welch, Coleman, Lambden, Arnold, Peck, Rowcliffe, > Siderfin, Cobb, Beard) > > On 2015-01-03 11:33 AM, Colin Stevenson via wrote: > > It depends on why you want to publish the tree. If you claim it is the > > definitive family history you need to be very certain of your facts. At > > the other end of the spectrum if it is published as a work in progress > > with appropriate caveats then it is a useful research tool for you and > > others. Personally I think there is more to gain from 'early ' > > publication rather than striving for accuracy. I can see no harm from > > publishing a speculative tree provided it is described as such. > > > > Colin Stevenson (Cavie & Monnington) > > _____________________________________________ > > > >

Thanks everyone - Parloc was the program, have found it, downloaded and got it working. I had a disasterous system crash over the Christmas, and lost almost all my files - the exceptions being those that were backed up to excel. . but I also lost 2 lots of census data, so I am now trying to put everything back in order. I usually keep my backups on an external drive, but the crash occurred while I was backing up and caused problems with my hard drive and my external drive. I suppose this is as good a time as any to re-evaluate my data. Thanks again Caryl

> From: Caryl Gill via > Sent: 05 January 2015 20:01 > > At one time (quite a while back now) there was a free? Place finder. You > either typed in the county, and it gave you all towns and villages, or > you typed in a place and it gave you possible counties. The Genuki gazetteer does this: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Gazetteer/ Best wishes Andrew -- Andrew Millard - A.R.Millard@durham.ac.uk Chair, Trustees of Genuki: www.genuki.org.uk Maintainer, Genuki Middx + London: www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/MDX/ + ../LND/ Academic Co-ordinator, Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Bodimeade one-name study: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/Bodimeade/ My genealogy: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/

Are you thinking of the Parish Locator, PARLOC? It still seems to exist, if you google for it. Paul On 5 January 2015 at 20:00, Caryl Gill via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > > At one time (quite a while back now) there was a free? Place finder. You > either typed in the county, and it gave you all towns and villages, or you > typed in a place and it gave you possible counties. > > Does anyone remember what it was called, and do you know if it still exists. > > > > Thanks > > > > Caryl > > Still looking for Pett > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

...Resending as previously posted in Rich Text... Jim, I described my basic filing method in my JOONS article in Oct 2008, http://one-name.org/members/journal/vol9-12.pdf pp 10-12. Re-reading the article, little has changed, except that I now have my own fledgling TNG site at www.Toll-FamilyHistory.org/genealogy. The material I collected was initially filed (on my PC) under the repository where it was found. For each repository, I have been (slowly) sorting the material by "Family Location", enabling me to then bring material together for each family. For the Schenectady (NY) TOLLs I was able to add material into my existing tree, as it is an old and well documented US family. For other families I have yet to transfer much of the information into Trees. I intend to create databases for each State/Province (as I already have for several UK Counties & Aus States) extracting the core genealogical data, its source, and where the image/research is filed. When Jean started the VANT ONS I suggested she also added a 'Tree' reference to each piece of research data. this has worked so well that I now have to go back and re-document mine :-( Very happy to share the format(s) if of interest. I know size isn't everything... ...but I've just checked my ONS and it comprises 23,342 Files in 2,174 Folders occupying almost 30GB! It has clearly grown since the 7GB in 2008. This is almost certainly due to mainly using a Digital Camera (rather than pencil & paper) to record research. As a parallel project, I am tackling the US& Canada States & Provinces one at a time. It's not a perfect solution as some miscreants keep crossing borders! However, I have about 10 Wisconsin TOLL families back to their migrant ancestors and am currently doing the same for Illinios. As time permits, I will be extracting data from my US Trips and adding it to the relevant Family Trees. I actually use Family Historian (FH, v6) as my research tool and currently only use TNG (v9) for on-line backup, as a web presence, and for sharing. I shall, of course, be investigating TNG (v10) as a research tool as time permits. I suspect what the software (FH or TNG) is capable of doing will depend very much on one's programming skills, as I believe both can run 'scripts'. I agree with Marie that the software won't (or shouldn't) do everything for you, but it could be capable of generating 'hints' and adding the link if you concur. Sorry it is a rather rambling reply, but it is a rather rambling hobby... Ken Joint RR for East & West Sussex On 3 January 2015 at 21:10, Jim Benedict via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Ken Toll (member 1331) and his wife Jean (member 6183) wrote an interesting > pair of articles in the latest journal. > > Ken, you collected hundreds, if not thousands of unindexed documents and > photographs during your trips in 2013 to the northeastern USA and 2014 to > Salt Lake City. Now, how the dickens are you going to organize them into a > research project? As with you, I am trying to use TNG for a family tree > application and research tool. My digital file cabinet has 4,000 files, all > digital images of original Benedict paper documents. They need to be > matched up to Benedict ancestors on the family trees. TNG allows for people > ID numbers and family ID numbers, and I also am using a modified Henry > descendant numbering system for the Benedict line. > > I also know that you plan to use TNG yourself. How does one design a > document database that 'wires' into a family tree application for ONS > research purposes? > > Jim Benedict > Guild Representative for Western Canada > Guild of One-Name Studies: Guild member #4794 > Calgary, Alberta > www.BenedictGenerations.com > ======================================================== > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, At one time (quite a while back now) there was a free? Place finder. You either typed in the county, and it gave you all towns and villages, or you typed in a place and it gave you possible counties. Does anyone remember what it was called, and do you know if it still exists. Thanks Caryl Still looking for Pett

Is there anyone near to Oxford please who could visit the archives and photocopy me some marriage bonds. Strictly on a business footing I would pay travel time and photocopying costs. Living in the East Riding is too far to travel at this time of year, Shirley Power GRIMMETT 6171

>From my own limited experience - and maybe because I'm on the Western side of the Atlantic or because many Peplers/lows never roosted for very long - I tried grouping files by place and it just didn't work for anything smaller than a full country because the vast majority of my study had at least three and in some cases eight different places. So When building a person I was having to visit too many different folders. Now I identify by lineage numbers. Each descendent in a lineage gets the number added to their name and I have a family folder to hold certificates, documents, images etc. If the lineage is vast enough (say over about 200 or so), I have sub folders in the folder for the different event types. Same with numbering - I tried a structured numbering system but I do so many merges that the renumbering became more of a nuisance than an help. This is one of the problems I find with TNG - it wants to identify everything by an ID number and when I merge three people together - two numbers get lost and I don't want to have to chase their attachments everytime I do a merge. Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com ________________________________ From: Ken Toll via <goons@rootsweb.com> To: Goons mailing list <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [G] Family Research in the USA - JOONs article by Ken Toll ...Resending as previously posted in Rich Text... Jim, I described my basic filing method in my JOONS article in Oct 2008, http://one-name.org/members/journal/vol9-12.pdf pp 10-12. Re-reading the article, little has changed, except that I now have my own fledgling TNG site at www.Toll-FamilyHistory.org/genealogy. The material I collected was initially filed (on my PC) under the repository where it was found. For each repository, I have been (slowly) sorting the material by "Family Location", enabling me to then bring material together for each family. For the Schenectady (NY) TOLLs I was able to add material into my existing tree, as it is an old and well documented US family. For other families I have yet to transfer much of the information into Trees. I intend to create databases for each State/Province (as I already have for several UK Counties & Aus States) extracting the core genealogical data, its source, and where the image/research is filed. When Jean started the VANT ONS I suggested she also added a 'Tree' reference to each piece of research data. this has worked so well that I now have to go back and re-document mine :-( Very happy to share the format(s) if of interest. I know size isn't everything... ...but I've just checked my ONS and it comprises 23,342 Files in 2,174 Folders occupying almost 30GB! It has clearly grown since the 7GB in 2008. This is almost certainly due to mainly using a Digital Camera (rather than pencil & paper) to record research. As a parallel project, I am tackling the US& Canada States & Provinces one at a time. It's not a perfect solution as some miscreants keep crossing borders! However, I have about 10 Wisconsin TOLL families back to their migrant ancestors and am currently doing the same for Illinios. As time permits, I will be extracting data from my US Trips and adding it to the relevant Family Trees. I actually use Family Historian (FH, v6) as my research tool and currently only use TNG (v9) for on-line backup, as a web presence, and for sharing. I shall, of course, be investigating TNG (v10) as a research tool as time permits. I suspect what the software (FH or TNG) is capable of doing will depend very much on one's programming skills, as I believe both can run 'scripts'. I agree with Marie that the software won't (or shouldn't) do everything for you, but it could be capable of generating 'hints' and adding the link if you concur. Sorry it is a rather rambling reply, but it is a rather rambling hobby... Ken Joint RR for East & West Sussex On 3 January 2015 at 21:10, Jim Benedict via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Ken Toll (member 1331) and his wife Jean (member 6183) wrote an interesting > pair of articles in the latest journal. > > Ken, you collected hundreds, if not thousands of unindexed documents and > photographs during your trips in 2013 to the northeastern USA and 2014 to > Salt Lake City. Now, how the dickens are you going to organize them into a > research project? As with you, I am trying to use TNG for a family tree > application and research tool. My digital file cabinet has 4,000 files, all > digital images of original Benedict paper documents. They need to be > matched up to Benedict ancestors on the family trees. TNG allows for people > ID numbers and family ID numbers, and I also am using a modified Henry > descendant numbering system for the Benedict line. > > I also know that you plan to use TNG yourself. How does one design a > document database that 'wires' into a family tree application for ONS > research purposes? > > Jim Benedict > Guild Representative for Western Canada > Guild of One-Name Studies: Guild member #4794 > Calgary, Alberta > www.BenedictGenerations.com > ======================================================== > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Forwarded from the Archives-nra list, with Peter Kurilecz's permission. Wendy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: PeterK Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 4:53 PM To: ARCHIVES-NRA@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Historic York archives open in new £2m home Today the York Explore Library Learning Centre opens its new £2.1m flagship service in the city centre including a store and reading room for the archive, as well as a refurbished local history library and family history centre. The building has also undergone essential repairs and conservation to its original parquet floor and slate roof and other works. The city’s internationally-important archive was previously housed in overcrowded and damp rooms at York Art Gallery. The conditions placed historic documents, including the city’s first charter dated 1155 and its letter of condolence after the death of King Richard III, at risk. http://bit.ly/1BqOXmr http://bit.ly/1BqOXmr+ -- Peterk Dallas, Tx

Hi Corinne, I'm certainly with those who are saying publish, but make people aware of the uncertainties, etc. There are options, though, as to how you publish i.e. whether you publish everything or just some of what you have, and whether you make it all public or require people to sign-in to see. For instance, if you use TNG you have the option of a website where everyone can see some pages but only those you give a password to can see the details. This means you can make sure they understand it is a work in progress, by your response to their request for access. The downside is that probably less people will see it and you will certainly get less help. (For my own family tree I have had people send all sorts e.g. information about a train accident a relation was in, from someone interested in the railway, recently a clarification as to who someone had married when I just had the names of the 2 brides on the page - this person was related to the other couple; I'm sure these people would never have asked for access to my tree; they came across specific names and so contacted me). If you go for making everything open, remember many (most) people will not enter the site via the home page, and may not visit it. and so caveats there may be unseen. You can, though, get around this by adding them to the header or footer of every page (or a link to them). Since you are using Legacy I guess you will be exporting a GEDCOM from it and importing to TNG or something else allowing an online tree. You could tag those you want to export and leave off any particularly speculative. (I think you could tag all and untag those to be left out if easier). Although TNG has lots of options, including the facility to have more than one 'tree' (a tree on TNG can be a file of a number of unlinked trees) one thing I regret it doesn't allow is a mixture of open and password-protected trees within the same installation. Although it would be possible to have more than one installation of TNG within a website the advantage of more than one tree in a single installation is that you can search the trees singly or together. Whatever software you go for to publish your tree check what it will do with notes. On my own tree I added some comments in bold and/or red etc. to draw attention to uncertainties. But these were in the 'general notes' or 'research notes' in Legacy. Although I have my own website I also have my tree (though not my ONS) on Ancestry. I've discovered that when I put my tree on Ancestry although it gave people access to notes re events, the general notes, with these important warnings, were hidden from the public! Hope that helps, if any of it sounds of interest but needs more explaining do ask, Teresa On 01/01/2015 17:16, Corinne Curtis via wrote: > I'm getting more and more hesitant about putting trees online because > of fear of having relationships wrong in my reconstructed trees. > Because I can't afford to be buying certificates, it makes it a bit > difficult to confirm some relationships, although I usually work > around trying to find multiple pieces of evidence before I link two > people. I see my family tree database (legacy) as a "working" > document - open to changes and testing hypotheses. My rationale for > linking people is almost always documented in the notes field, but > without going through every individual in a tree and checking notes, I > have no way of knowing how much guess work there is in a tree - so I > don't publish it, but just keep on working on finding and adding in > new information that will help confirm links. The huge number of > spelling and transcription differences in the surname, and large > proportion of catholic families with a limited range of given names > complicates it even more. I also have an enormous number of different > and separate trees,as few of the ones with Irish emigrants as the > earliest ancestor can be linked yet, and there are other apparently > separate origins of the name. > > I did start putting a few small families onto wikitree as I thought > that would allow collaboration as well as enforcing the requirement > for referencing, but recently I haven't been impressed with what other > people have been putting on wikitree - many of the same old unverified > trees from dodgy GEDCOMS complete with errors. > > My nervousness about publishing is getting to the ridiculous point > now, and I know I need to start putting trees online, but I'm not > quite sure how to decide when a tree is good enough (i.e a high > probability of relationships all being correct). Any suggestions? > > Corinne Curtis (Sennett/Sinnott, etc ONS, and 35,000 names in legacy database) > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- ------------------------ Teresa Goatham Sign the petition to open historic BMD registers - http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/62779 (UK residents / British citizens only)

maps.familysearch.org is excellent for the England and Wales. For instance, it maps over 50 references to a place called Sutton! Paul On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Paul Prescott via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Are you thinking of the Parish Locator, PARLOC? It still seems to > exist, if you google for it. > > Paul > > > > > On 5 January 2015 at 20:00, Caryl Gill via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> >> At one time (quite a while back now) there was a free? Place finder. You >> either typed in the county, and it gave you all towns and villages, or you >> typed in a place and it gave you possible counties. >> >> Does anyone remember what it was called, and do you know if it still exists. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Caryl >> >> Still looking for Pett >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Paul Howes www.howesfamilies.com Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide

Free BMD Dec q 1899 James RHODES = Mary Ann DOWKES or Fanny BLACKMAN Could DOWKES be "DOWKER"? Just a thought! Alan farmery@one-name.org ----Original message---- >From : goons@rootsweb.com Date : 05/01/2015 - 01:19 (GMTST) To : goons@rootsweb.com Subject : Re: [G] Can anyone find this Marriage Hi John, I would investigate the marriage of Fred Jennings and Mary Ann Rhodes in the second quarter of 1905 in Wakefield district, since it is in the right area and around the right time. She could have been a widow. Debbie Gomersall Member 808 Gomersall - Gummerson -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John P Laws via Sent: 04 January 2015 18:42 To: 'GOONS' Subject: [G] Can anyone find this Marriage Hi One-Namers everywhere I'm searching so unsuccessfully for the marriage of Fred JENNINGS & Mary Ann DAKER (could be DACRE)about 1906 Yorkshire West Riding Fred JENNINGS was born 1880 Stanley West Riding and Mary Ann about 1880 in Easingwold North Riding. Fred was the brother of Frances JENNINGS who had married William WEBBER 22 Oct 1898 and on her death in 1920, adopted her baby Walter WEBBER bn 1919, Walter was brought up by Fred (Colliery Banksman) & Mary Ann (Cook to the Mayor of Wakefield). Walter was my late father-in-law. Can anyone throw any light on these folk. John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History wwww.lawsfamilyregisterr.tribalpages.com www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.com _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi One Namers Everywhere, Thank you Debbie for your contribution, I'd come to that conclusion myself and on further investigation I find Mary Ann (1881) and her sister Martha (1880) were born to her unwed mother prior to her marriage (1881) to Arthur CORNISH in Easingwold. On another Tack, Nellie K Mayes wrote Nature Notes for the Daily Mirror in the 1980's she is somehow related to this family I know she lived in Rose, near Perranporth in Cornwall with her husband Jimmy, I know they had a son Ralph who married a Lynn (Surname unknown) I can't find a suitable Ralph, who may well be alive and could be a great help or he could know zilch. Nellie MAYES has died and is listed in the Jun Q of 1993 at Truro which gives a birth date of 15 Aug 1913, I have also gleaned from family sources that Her mother was Connie could that be short for Constance -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Gomersall via Sent: 05 January 2015 01:19 To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G] Can anyone find this Marriage Hi John, I would investigate the marriage of Fred Jennings and Mary Ann Rhodes in the second quarter of 1905 in Wakefield district, since it is in the right area and around the right time. She could have been a widow. Debbie Gomersall Member 808 Gomersall - Gummerson -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John P Laws via Sent: 04 January 2015 18:42 To: 'GOONS' Subject: [G] Can anyone find this Marriage Hi One-Namers everywhere I'm searching so unsuccessfully for the marriage of Fred JENNINGS & Mary Ann DAKER (could be DACRE)about 1906 Yorkshire West Riding Fred JENNINGS was born 1880 Stanley West Riding and Mary Ann about 1880 in Easingwold North Riding. Fred was the brother of Frances JENNINGS who had married William WEBBER 22 Oct 1898 and on her death in 1920, adopted her baby Walter WEBBER bn 1919, Walter was brought up by Fred (Colliery Banksman) & Mary Ann (Cook to the Mayor of Wakefield). Walter was my late father-in-law. Can anyone throw any light on these folk. John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History wwww.lawsfamilyregisterr.tribalpages.com www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.com _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi John, I do think Mary Ann RHODES is worth investigating. The 1881 census shows a Mary Ann RHODES at Easingwold, born c1880 to an unmarried mother. It looks like her mother (Ann or Annie) then married later that year to Arthur CORNISH, and they were living at Bottom Boat, Stanley in 1901. I've not yet found Mary Ann in 1891 or 1901, but the fact that her mother ended up at Bottom Boat must be more than a coincidence. Best wishes, Ian Middlebrook GOONS #6498 On Sun, January 4, 2015 11:11 pm, John P Laws wrote: > Thanks for your response Ian, (I would welcome further input on this one > from other members) > > This is a complex family, as I understand it Fred was born 1880 Stanley > and died 1946 Wortley and Mary Ann born 1880 Easingwold died Wortley 7 Apr > 1960. > > > > Fred's parents were William JENNINGS (Colliery Labourer & Banksman) and > Mary > Ann ELLIS married 19 May 1866 Stanley, she later married Andrew DAKER 1880 > he died 1920 he was formerly married to Rosetta TAYLOR. > > Fred & Mary Ann had three known children:- > > > Frances (1877-1920) married William WEBBER (1872-1951) > Fred (1880-1946) married Mary An DAKER (1880-1960) > Walter (1885-1940) married Ada (1886-1966) > > > > I saw Mary Ann RHODES in the registers but can't link her in, > > > Should have done this when some of them were still alive sadly I didn't > join the family until 1976 > > > Regards > > > John P Laws > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Middlebrook [mailto:ian@middlebrook.org.uk] > Sent: 04 January 2015 22:09 > To: John P Laws; goons@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [G] Can anyone find this Marriage > > > Hi John, > > > Are you sure Mary Ann DAKER was Fred's wife rather than his mother > (after a second marriage)? > > > There is a family at Stanley, Yorks in 1891 with Fred (10) and Frances > (13) > JENNINGS, but the parents are Andrew and Mary A DAKER - also with some > younger children called DAKER. I would assume Fred & Frances were children > of Mary Ann from a previous marriage. > > Fred & Frances were with William & Mary Ann JENNINGS in 1881. > > > I would guess Fred married Mary Ann RHODES in 1905 (Wakefield district). > > > Best wishes, > > > Ian Middlebrook > GOONS #6498 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John P Laws via > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 6:42 PM > To: 'GOONS' > Subject: [G] Can anyone find this Marriage > > > Hi One-Namers everywhere > > > > I'm searching so unsuccessfully for the marriage of Fred JENNINGS & Mary > Ann > DAKER (could be DACRE)about 1906 Yorkshire West Riding > > > Fred JENNINGS was born 1880 Stanley West Riding and Mary Ann about 1880 > in Easingwold North Riding. > > > Fred was the brother of Frances JENNINGS who had married William WEBBER > 22 > Oct 1898 and on her death in 1920, adopted her baby Walter WEBBER bn 1919, > Walter was brought up by Fred (Colliery Banksman) & Mary Ann (Cook to > the Mayor of Wakefield). > > > Walter was my late father-in-law. > > > Can anyone throw any light on these folk. > > > John P Laws > > > Registrar > Laws Family Register > Putting Flesh on the Bones of History > > > wwww.lawsfamilyregisterr.tribalpages.com > > www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > >